Why Christianity is not the Answer for Ritual Abuse Survivors

You have no idea who Mckinnon was working for do you?


Excuse me, but if I remember right: In a court of law; the burden of proof is on the accuser!(that would be you my friend)........you need to get your own confirmations!!!

Yes!

He, him and his don't refer to a man? You were proven wrong on him being referred to as God, going to rigidly continue down that path?

To each his own

Decent troll thread, though

I have not implied any conclusions, this is simple cut and paste. If you are so wrong, about such a simple passage, then your opinion about the entire bible, is wrong. There is no way, you can get your definition, without denying, distorting, or deleting what it actually says.

Good men will do good deeds.

Evil men will do evil deeds.

But.......for good men to do evil deeds, it REQUIRES religion.

There are many good people involved in religion. They would be good whether they were religious or not. Love commanded is not love at all.

Love commanded is love destroyed.

"Don't love me because you must.....but love me because it's the only thing you can do."

I have never even ONCE seen religion change any man or woman. But now they have an excuse for their behavior.


Great thread, Sandi T.

Bravo.

Evil is defined by religion, not nature.

Well you are certainly entitled to your own interpretation of this scripture.......no matter how wrong it may be! :(

From what you reveal about yourself it seems you went through some difficult times and you seem to blame “Christianity” for not making you feel better about it.???!!!

I am not a fan of the institution of ‘Christianity’ and I believe it is so far off from the REAL teachings of Jesus that they actually mislead people by calling themselves ‘Christians’

A real Christian would ONLY FOLLOW the teachings of Jesus, and not some doctrines made up by some fake priests who had a lawyer’s type of mind, and decided to make up all sorts of fake rules and rituals about God and Jesus, which have little or nothing to do with truth, but which the sheep have been following instead of realizing that to be a REAL CHRISTIAN is to follow ONLY what Jesus says and teaches as carefully as possible.


Christianity was highjacked a long time ago and what has been allowed to be and is in the NT is a tiny part of what Jesus really taught when he was teaching two thousand years ago or especially even what he is teaching right this day.

One of the most important parts of our creation and being here, is to try to understand why we are here, and why we ALL go through so much suffering while we are in this world.

Perhaps if you do a study of the Bhagavad-Gita you will get a better understanding than you presently have about God’s Justice System, ITS CALLED KARMA.
Krishna describes it beautifully.

The present ‘Christian religions’ deny it, but it doesn’t matter because they didn’t get much right anyway, since they ONLY want to see what they determine is true.
As do most others.

Yet Jesus also explains KARMA and reincarnation (without using those specific words,) perfectly in the New Testament if one does a careful reading, especially since the scriptures were mostly in the possession and total control of a people who do not want to believe there is anything like KARMA or reincarnation, which determines what kind of lives they will experience when they reincarnate for the harm they do and have done to others.

So you can imagine how much of what Jesus taught was actually destroyed by those who have that agenda.

(I think the jewish people ONLY want to believe that when they die they just go back to the dirt, and are no more.)
Therefore they don't want to believe they must pay back for harm done.

Surprise..
It would upset some people very much to learn something they don’t want to believe, especially if they realized that any harm they do to ANYONE, determines the degree of pain, and perhaps an even greater degree of pain that they will experience for all of their past and present bad choices.
And it may take countless lives of suffering and misery to pay it all back for the bad choices made.

The justice system in this world STINKS, and it seems the bad guys never pay.

BUT GOD’S JUSTICE SYSTEM IS PERFECT.

AND THE TRUTH IS THAT EVERYBODY PAYS for any harm ever done to anyone, and because of karma, it is paid by experiencing lives often with pain and misery which will help us learn that we should never harm anyone.

EVENTUALLY WHEN WE FINALLY LEARN ALL OF OUR LESSONS HERE, WE DON’T COME BACK AGAIN TO THIS WORLD.

Instead.... we go onto the higher spiritual realms where we really belong, and there we will learn more lessons, and it continues to degrees we can’t even imagine because of the limited awareness that we have here.

And also an important big part of the learning is FORGIVENESS of OTHERS regardless what was done to us.

And that’s a real tough one for many people to realize, and especially to do.

When we are ready there are great Teachers who will show us the way Home.

THIS WORLD IS JUST A SCHOOL TO LEARN WHAT WE NEED TO LEARN.

Its not our permanent place to be stuck in.

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You are right I know nothing about McKinnon. Was he in the space ship with Jesus? As for proof, the pictures were all I needed. Keep up the good work Obe. Are sure you are not an attorney?

I am your God. Thanks for the info, I been hearing alot of this going on in my churches.

You don't have to go to church anymore, nor does anyone of your family or friends.

42 is the Religion we see.

Smoke pot, don't listen to bullshit.

I grant you all my powers.

You have Eternal Life! If you know of any other survivors, Light the way.

The Lord is with you always!

Just Love the Lord your God with all your Heart.

If you got problems. my email is [email protected]

Sinners will have to answer to me!

Sorry but I do not considered showing your stupidity as mocking me. I take your comments for pretty much what they are worth, nothing. I know you read everything I post and probably more than once. My guess is you turn it them over and over in that tiny little brain of yours because you are that way. I do have one last serious question for you if you don’t mind. That’s only of course if you read this post which I am sure you will. I am sure you being ritual abused and all you must be taking some heavy psychotropic medications to silence the lambs, would you mind sharing which ones?

Thanks my friend

Dimwit, he made no interpretation.

Did you go to Syria then visit all the planets in a space ship like the Sandi’s pictures show you doing?

Blah, blah, blahity blah blah. Whatever you were trying to say, that was all that came out.

Ritual Abuse......hmmmmm.


Generally on this forum we do not simply take someone's word for something......unless it is just a thread for people to socialize and provide emotional support/elevation to one another.


I would say then that to go with the current Subject title as listed above.......we would have to get testimonies from hundreds of ritual abuse survivors.......and then tabulate and analyze the data in some particular manner.


Naturally the subjects of this study would also have to provide proof that abuse indeed took place in their lives......such as past police or court records, treatment that might have been received, and other past records.


Otherwise the title of this thread should be changed to something else.....like "Help, please lift me up.".......or "Endorphin Therapy Group....interested?"...or ..."Let's beat up some Negroes.....I mean Christians"......etc. etc.

Very wise "It is better to remain silent and be thought a fool, than to open your mouth and remove all doubt." Obe I am not sure but I think McKinnon said that.

More blah blah blah blah?

Then why bring up the scriptures in the first place?

Are you so unaware of the Christian projection of these writings, that you miss the implied meanings? :(

I don't know about you New Zealand but I am pretty much blah blah blah blahed out. This is a boring dead thread anyway. I think I will jump over to ObeWhiner’s thread "Why the Monkeys from outer space that flew up my butt don’t need proof”thread and blah blah blah blah there a while.

me too, I think I am going to give up with them here, I would better use my time catching up my housework.

LOL......I'll ban your "monkey butt" if you do! lol ;)

Last Edited by ObeWayneKenobe on 11/16/2011 09:50 PM

Honestly, most of them are lost. All we can hope for is to plant the ideas and the possibilities, and help to protect those not yet indoctrinated. I don't bother with those who are willfully ignorant and fully intend to stay that way. It is definitely a waste of time.

More important is just being the voice of dissent since most of the time their rhetoric and lies go totally unchallenged. Or, just as frequently, inadequately challenged.

So few are the ones that make it out, and none are unscathed.

If he keeps up his childish personal attacks, he'll get it here, too. I'll only remove so much, then I lose my patience with people.

Oh cheeze Obe , just when I thought we were becoming chums you go and say something like that, "you will ban me" . Wow just when you think you know someone. That’s terrible.

At best; I think he's just looking for a little entertainment.....since he doesn't really seem to understand any of the real meat of the discussion! :(

At worst; our Adversaries must not like all this Truth getting out!

.........dang it, I lose more friends that way! :(

Last Edited by ObeWayneKenobe on 11/16/2011 10:03 PM

I don't mind if he wants to entertain himself with me. I won't tolerate it towards others in my thread, though.

However, yeah, it's abundantly clear that he doesn't have a clue about any of the deeper discussion happening here. He doesn't get why it should give us all reason to wonder to see space ships in ancient paintings and cave drawings and hieroglyphics.

You know I don't really agree with either UB or PJ... but I know for a fact that the Earth has had (at minimum) technology well above ours in the past. I've seen objects more sophisticated than we could make with the most state-of-the-art tools at our disposal... undisturbed in soil strata from well before supposed biblical times.

These pictures aren't coincidence. UFOs showing up in art all through history is strange. Very, very strange.

Yea if the deletes keep up the only post left will be yours Obe's and well nobody in particulars. You love to feed of each other anyway so fire away.