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Anonymous Coward User ID: 1446072 United States 10/28/2011 12:52 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Ok, right off the bat the first "photo" the video "analyzes" is not a raw image from Apollo, it's a stitched panoramic made after the fact by someone else. It's a processed panorama using parts of AS11-37-5466 through 5469. The panorama was created by David Harland, a Scottish author and space historian, the "artifacts" in the images are just processing artifacts from making the panorama, they're not in the original images. It's NEVER valid to make those kinds of claims based on stitched panoramics, you ALWAYS use the original images. That's the kind of basic mistake I see all the time on youtube videos about Apollo, and right away it tells me the "researcher" either has no clue what they're doing, or they have an agenda to push. Quoting: Astromut He analyzed multiple photos...so you stopped the video after the first photo or you have no comments for the subsequent ones? In the first few seconds of the video I already see what the poster is up to. No need to waste any more of my time. It's BS, either intentional or out of stupidity, and he doesn't sound stupid. That's what I thought, so you admit that you watched 49 seconds of a nearly 11 minute video, and trashed the entire video. First thing that pops in to my head, is "Don't judge a book by it's cover". Well, based on your admission of doing just that, I immediately have no respect for your opinions because they are based on a fragment of information rather than its entirety. Pompous, arrogant, whatever one's favorite term is. :ItsReallyPoop: |
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Astromut Senior Forum Moderator User ID: 922113 United States 10/28/2011 12:59 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | That's what I thought, so you admit that you watched 49 seconds of a nearly 11 minute video, and trashed the entire video. Quoting: DisasterInc When someone shoots their own credibility and shows me that they're lying, I don't give anything else they say any weight. You would do the same to me if I lied like that, and rightfully so. For the same reason, I disregard everything the "Skyview team" says, and rightfully so. Truth means something, and when you mislead people and are caught doing it there are repercussions for your credibility. First thing that pops in to my head, is "Don't judge a book by it's cover". Quoting: disasterI didn't judge it by its cover, I judged it by its content. When it starts off spewing lies, I know it's worthless. Well, based on your admission of doing just that, I immediately have no respect for your opinions because they are based on a fragment of information rather than its entirety. Quoting: disasterLMFAO! Nice hypocrisy there dude. You just admitted you have no respect for my opinions based on a single post of mine. Well guess what pal, same story for the OP's video. You want to disregard my opinion? Fine, go right ahead, I can't stop you, but you just showed how hypocritical you are. The OP's video lost all credibility with the very first image. Last Edited by Astromut on 10/28/2011 12:59 AM |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 1379944 United States 10/28/2011 01:02 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I look at it like this... the images from NASA that were taken on the moon would be still images on film, thus (obviously) not digital. That being the case... how can this guy making the video "slice through layers" of an image that was taken from a single frame on a roll of physical film? I admit that I am not a photo-editing genius... but something doesn't make sense about that whole process to me. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 1439733 United States 10/28/2011 01:13 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | This would be a good analysis but there is one problem - the photos taken on the moon were not digital photos, the images were taken with Hasselblad camera's using 70mm film. [link to www.hq.nasa.gov] Any manipulation of the photo's would have been done on the negative so that when printed, the alteration would be transfered to the print. It was only in the past 20 years have they been scanned digitally and published as digital images. It's kinda like making a copy of a copy of a copy of a picture and then trying to do an analysis of it - the picture is too corrupted. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 1446072 United States 10/28/2011 01:14 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | That's what I thought, so you admit that you watched 49 seconds of a nearly 11 minute video, and trashed the entire video. Quoting: DisasterInc When someone shoots their own credibility and shows me that they're lying, I don't give anything else they say any weight. You would do the same to me if I lied like that, and rightfully so. For the same reason, I disregard everything the "Skyview team" says, and rightfully so. Truth means something, and when you mislead people and are caught doing it there are repercussions for your credibility. First thing that pops in to my head, is "Don't judge a book by it's cover". Quoting: disasterI didn't judge it by its cover, I judged it by its content. When it starts off spewing lies, I know it's worthless. Well, based on your admission of doing just that, I immediately have no respect for your opinions because they are based on a fragment of information rather than its entirety. Quoting: disasterLMFAO! Nice hypocrisy there dude. You just admitted you have no respect for my opinions based on a single post of mine. Well guess what pal, same story for the OP's video. You want to disregard my opinion? Fine, go right ahead, I can't stop you, but you just showed how hypocritical you are. The OP's video lost all credibility with the very first image. I won't play your game....Sorry. FACT, what you've admitted to, was watching up to 49 seconds of an 11 minute video, and trashing the entire source. What you cite as hypocrisy for me is interpreting FACT versus your 49 second interpretation of an 11 minute video. I don't care if something is even 100% wrong in the first 49 seconds (I never claimed that ANY of it was accurate if you read my first post), the fact you are so closed minded to even not consider ANY of it or even watch it, is questionable. Thank your for your input, but I have to take a dump. YET AGAIN. :ItsReallyPoop: |
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Astromut Senior Forum Moderator User ID: 922113 United States 10/28/2011 01:32 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | That's what I thought, so you admit that you watched 49 seconds of a nearly 11 minute video, and trashed the entire video. Quoting: DisasterInc When someone shoots their own credibility and shows me that they're lying, I don't give anything else they say any weight. You would do the same to me if I lied like that, and rightfully so. For the same reason, I disregard everything the "Skyview team" says, and rightfully so. Truth means something, and when you mislead people and are caught doing it there are repercussions for your credibility. First thing that pops in to my head, is "Don't judge a book by it's cover". Quoting: disasterI didn't judge it by its cover, I judged it by its content. When it starts off spewing lies, I know it's worthless. Well, based on your admission of doing just that, I immediately have no respect for your opinions because they are based on a fragment of information rather than its entirety. Quoting: disasterLMFAO! Nice hypocrisy there dude. You just admitted you have no respect for my opinions based on a single post of mine. Well guess what pal, same story for the OP's video. You want to disregard my opinion? Fine, go right ahead, I can't stop you, but you just showed how hypocritical you are. The OP's video lost all credibility with the very first image. I won't play your game....Sorry. Game? No game, you just showed a massive amount of hypocrisy is all. FACT, what you've admitted to, was watching up to 49 seconds of an 11 minute video, and trashing the entire source. Quoting: disasterYup. When someone pretends to be capable of proper photographic analysis of the apollo imagery and starts right off with lying about NASA covering things up in an image which is in fact just stitching artifacts in a second hand processed panorama, they have no credibility as a source. What you cite as hypocrisy for me is interpreting FACT versus your 49 second interpretation of an 11 minute video. Quoting: disasterOh the irony, it's so rich. You don't even see your own hypocrisy, priceless. I don't care if something is even 100% wrong in the first 49 seconds Quoting: disasterWell, you should. Anyone who knows the first thing about actual digital image analysis and handling would know that it was completely wrong. He knew damn well it was a panorama too, it was even present there in the filename he showed at the top left corner where it said "pan" in part of the name! The guy's a charlatan, that's all I needed to know. I do not tolerate liars, you apparently do, but you won't tolerate someone who doesn't tolerate them. Priceless. Last Edited by Astromut on 10/28/2011 01:33 AM |
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I'll say it again User ID: 1510904 United States 10/28/2011 01:42 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Once upon a time there was a Massonrie living in Germany named James Broadenstein. A few years prior to the official Project Paperclip dates, this man was brought to America whereupon his name was changed to James Broadston, AKA James Broadstone. He was given a cushy job at NASA and Lockheed Martin while being groomed to become the head cheese of North American Aviation, Inc., Rocketdyne Division in the 60's [link to www.engineerscouncil.org] He enjoyed his status and hobnobbing with the likes of Rumsfeld, Reagan and Cheney et al. His wife, Elizabeth (Maiden name Key - as in Francis Scott) went on to become a well known dietitian to the elite and various famous people. She also became involved with [link to www.archive.org] KPFA NEWS and their Communist Agenda propaganda [link to en.wikipedia.org] Together, they started a communist rag in Ohio but cannot find any links online to back this up. My father still has the beautiful original press though. These commie rat bastards who's main objective in life was to tear down America from the inside were also my grandparents. In 1986, my grandfather, with a tear in his eye (he only had 1), presented me with his Freemasonry ring (with a huge diamond in it which I'm thinking of hawking- I sure as heck don't want it.) told me (among other things) point blank that the entire moon thing was a hoax. I would not be shocked to know that we have been to the moon but it would have to be through alien technology and not some NASA shuttle trying to get through the Van Allen radiation belt and tinker toys covered in gold foil. Side note: The perks of all this was that I got to meet Donny and Marie (Grandma was the Osmond's nutritionist). Sounds funny now but when I was 6-8, it was super cool. In '74, I was at my grandparents house one day when Buzz Aldrin came over. He had tried to give me an autographed diecast model of the Apollo which really struck a nerve with my grandfather. He became so enraged by it that he began to scream at Buzz. After about 20 seconds of yelling, I got to see my grandfather punch him (Aldrin) square in the nose and dot his eye. -- Oh what a life! (copy/paste from my post on Thread: was the landing on the moon fake or real it or was it staged (Page 2) - posted 06/25/2011) Somebody else has a post mentioning with some additional information with my grandfather being mentioned which can be found here Thread: 80% melt down no containment building in Simi Valley Ca. in 1959 - 7th post down post dated 03/18/2011 |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 1446072 United States 10/28/2011 01:48 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Drive by karma attack!!!!! Quoting: Doommincus Maximus SolarPower +1 Zack18257 +1 DisasterInc +1 Astromut +1 A Voice In The Wilderness +1 watchZEITGEISTnow +1 Dragon966 +1 Chimaybliss +1 Peace and Love GLPE I really hate the nastiness, and I do get caught up in it. +1 to you also, and PEACE to ALL (including Astromut). |
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Halcyon Dayz, FCD User ID: 1222987 Netherlands 10/28/2011 02:38 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | [link to www.youtube.com] This guy takes compressed images, blows them up, plays around with the Photoshop sliders pretending to be a photography forensics expert, and then he's surprised he finds artifacts. He has trouble with perspective as well. What a genius. A fine example off how ignorance breeds overconfidence. Cute accent though. Where's that from? Reaching for the sky makes you taller. Hi! My name is Halcyon Dayz and I'm addicted to morans. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 4178005 Australia 10/28/2011 02:48 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | It looks like NASA's lies are finally coming back to haunt them after all these years. A huge conspiracy involving the agency and them covering up ground breaking discoveries has been exposed! Quoting: Chimaybliss [link to nutshellurl.com] BBBBBBBOOOOOOOOOOORRRRRRRRRRIIIIIIIINNNNNNNNNNNNGGGGGGGGGGGGG What a waste of time and effort on this crap - I think I saw bigfoot on that artillery gun on the moon... I have my own reasons for not believing human moon landing, mainly the deadly Van Allen belt and the negative affects space has on the body, I don't need more GRAINY bigootesqe pictures of magical crap on the moon. If anyone has every done photography then you'd understand why this video is bunk and the author has NO IDEA what he's doing. I still can't understand why so little people don't realize the crashed Roswell UFO was a NAZI anti-gravity man-made craft. Possibly using magnet-motors as free-energy. What would be worse - the public KNOWING about FREE-ENERGY and non-pollutant ANTI-GRAVITY planes or the public THEORIZING on dumb arse 'alien' stories. The ONLY reason the NWO could possibly use aliens/ufo's for their plans is because people are wayyyyy to gullible and silly to think logically - Roswell, Orson Welles (of Stanford/MI-5 H.G Welles), alien 'contact' religions, movies, TV - it's in our faces everyday, and if the Zionist anti-Christian Hollywood deviants want to make us pay attention to certain things, then it's OBVIOUSLY a lie. Don't believe in all this Kabbalah Alien Moon-Base UFO BULLSHIT people - it's all to distract from the one true truth of our Lord and Savior Jesus Christ - the only time you hear those Hollywood Zionist shills mention our Lord is when they blaspheme Him - ohhh, but how often do we hear negativity about ass-fuck Muhammad or dick-licking Allah? You're all being deceived and you're loving it - anti-christs can only work when they have demand - and they have LOTS of demand. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 4179276 Australia 10/28/2011 03:10 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Ok, right off the bat the first "photo" the video "analyzes" is not a raw image from Apollo, it's a stitched panoramic made after the fact by someone else. It's a processed panorama using parts of AS11-37-5466 through 5469. The panorama was created by David Harland, a Scottish author and space historian, the "artifacts" in the images are just processing artifacts from making the panorama, they're not in the original images. It's NEVER valid to make those kinds of claims based on stitched panoramics, you ALWAYS use the original images. That's the kind of basic mistake I see all the time on youtube videos about Apollo, and right away it tells me the "researcher" either has no clue what they're doing, or they have an agenda to push. Quoting: Astromut He analyzed multiple photos...so you stopped the video after the first photo or you have no comments for the subsequent ones? In the first few seconds of the video I already see what the poster is up to. No need to waste any more of my time. It's BS, either intentional or out of stupidity, and he doesn't sound stupid. That's what I thought, so you admit that you watched 49 seconds of a nearly 11 minute video, and trashed the entire video. First thing that pops in to my head, is "Don't judge a book by it's cover". Well, based on your admission of doing just that, I immediately have no respect for your opinions because they are based on a fragment of information rather than its entirety. Pompous, arrogant, whatever one's favorite term is. :ItsReallyPoop: DInc I completely agree. THIS is what is wrong with so-called scientists and astronomers today, they are that full of their collected/learned knowledge they believe they can recognise ALL falsities through their current knowledge and experience. The past few years have shown there is ALWAYS an unknown factor for the expansion of knowledge. Astronut stagnates in his intelligence while those like SS expand into infinity making fools of muts all over the world. |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 1474735 United States 10/28/2011 03:29 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | That's what I thought, so you admit that you watched 49 seconds of a nearly 11 minute video, and trashed the entire video. Quoting: DisasterInc When someone shoots their own credibility and shows me that they're lying, I don't give anything else they say any weight. You would do the same to me if I lied like that, and rightfully so. For the same reason, I disregard everything the "Skyview team" says, and rightfully so. Truth means something, and when you mislead people and are caught doing it there are repercussions for your credibility. First thing that pops in to my head, is "Don't judge a book by it's cover". Quoting: disasterI didn't judge it by its cover, I judged it by its content. When it starts off spewing lies, I know it's worthless. Well, based on your admission of doing just that, I immediately have no respect for your opinions because they are based on a fragment of information rather than its entirety. Quoting: disasterLMFAO! Nice hypocrisy there dude. You just admitted you have no respect for my opinions based on a single post of mine. Well guess what pal, same story for the OP's video. You want to disregard my opinion? Fine, go right ahead, I can't stop you, but you just showed how hypocritical you are. The OP's video lost all credibility with the very first image. I won't play your game....Sorry. Game? No game, you just showed a massive amount of hypocrisy is all. FACT, what you've admitted to, was watching up to 49 seconds of an 11 minute video, and trashing the entire source. Quoting: disasterYup. When someone pretends to be capable of proper photographic analysis of the apollo imagery and starts right off with lying about NASA covering things up in an image which is in fact just stitching artifacts in a second hand processed panorama, they have no credibility as a source. What you cite as hypocrisy for me is interpreting FACT versus your 49 second interpretation of an 11 minute video. Quoting: disasterOh the irony, it's so rich. You don't even see your own hypocrisy, priceless. I don't care if something is even 100% wrong in the first 49 seconds Quoting: disasterWell, you should. Anyone who knows the first thing about actual digital image analysis and handling would know that it was completely wrong. He knew damn well it was a panorama too, it was even present there in the filename he showed at the top left corner where it said "pan" in part of the name! The guy's a charlatan, that's all I needed to know. I do not tolerate liars, you apparently do, but you won't tolerate someone who doesn't tolerate them. Priceless. you got owned mutt. gtfo disinfo agent shill |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 4123786 Croatia 10/28/2011 03:35 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Such a big disinfo here and BS, you people really don't know. NASA was on moon with Apollo program, what do you think why apollo 18,19 and 20 was stoped? They found alien threat! It was the time of space race with CCCP. Do you think that Russians would be a quiet about faked apollo landings? They have the radars all over CCCP and they listened all that transmission. Did you ever asked yourself why Russians were never on the moon? They have the technology to send the human to the moon, but they didn't never publicly committed that. Because they know the same thing about alien stuff like US know, so they afraid. The answer for these questions is partly in Transformer 3 movie. I was on Charles Duke lecture (apollo 16 crew), he sounded unusually and strange. I can read between the lines and I figured what he is talking about. Every mayor astronaut would commit alien involment and accompaniment with apollo missions. NAZI did have UFO's but were not capable go to the moon. Even children in school know that major apollo pictures were retouched. The alien bases are all over the moon, especially on the dark side. They have involvement with government since 1940's, NWO is just execution of their orders. So I think this video has hard evidence about moon cover up. |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 4148460 United States 10/28/2011 03:57 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | The alien bases are all over the moon, especially on the dark side. They have involvement with government since 1940's, NWO is just execution of their orders. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 4123786 so what you are saying is that the elite NWO are just doing exactly what the aliens are telling them to do ??? |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 4180322 Croatia 10/28/2011 04:19 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | The alien bases are all over the moon, especially on the dark side. They have involvement with government since 1940's, NWO is just execution of their orders. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 4123786 so what you are saying is that the elite NWO are just doing exactly what the aliens are telling them to do ??? there were major technology exchange program in 1970's which gone wrong. Look what is this guy talking about, he was killed a year after that. The government had deal with wrong aliens Grays under draco-reptilan federation. They broke the space galatic rule not to interfere with us and our envelopment. So there are others Aliens from other star systems who would protect us from evil and bad things that are going on with this NWO. |
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