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do christians really believe that the earth is only 5000 years old and humans are not primates and dinosaurs never existed?

 
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do christians really believe that the earth is only 5000 years old and humans are not primates and dinosaurs never existed?
isn't that what your book says?
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Re: do christians really believe that the earth is only 5000 years old and humans are not primates and dinosaurs never existed?
No. Yes. and No.
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Re: do christians really believe that the earth is only 5000 years old and humans are not primates and dinosaurs never existed?
kitty Um, 6,000 years actually.

The Earth is 6,000 Years Old.

It's a sad thing that many Christians have an appalling lack of biblical understanding, that at times enables our enemies to run rings around us. To take one example: You often see or read of mockers in the media saying words to the effect that: "The bible is inaccurate because it says that the earth is only 6,000 years old."

But the bible also says...2Pe 3:8 But, beloved, be not ignorant of this one thing, that one day [is] with the Lord as a thousand years, and a thousand years as one day.

You can easily work out for yourself that if you multiply 360 days (lunar years) x 6,000 x 1,000 that you get a figure of well over 2 billion years. Which also leaves plenty of room for quite a few 1,000 year periods to pass as single days.

No doubt some carping evolutionist will start whingeing that "the bible is still inaccurate because the earth is 6 billion (or whatever) years old. And I've got two good answers to that one.

Firstly: Just because you have blind faith in (a) the inherent accuracy of their scientific instruments. (b) The true scientific integrity of those doing the laboratory work. (c) That they cannot be fooled by false readings and/or assumptions. Pleeeeeeeeze do not expect me to take your shaky assumptions at face value. I know for a fact that false science is being used to bamboozle everyone into believing what they say about 'global warming', so why should I give you the benefit of the doubt.

Secondly: Try and explain this one away. We are told in the story of creation that the earth was formed from the small stuff that was left over after the creation of the universe. Therefore it should be quite reasonable to expect that for instance one group of about 500 million cubic miles of rock that outcrops on the earth's surface is perhaps 6 billion or so years old. Another outcrop of perhaps 200 million cubic miles could be 3 or 4 billion years old. And so on.

To sum up. If the material that was used to make the earth was in existence before the earth was formed, then obviously it is older than the earth.

So if in the future you hear some idiot spouting off about "the bible being inaccurate because it says that the earth is only 6,000 years old," you can correct them
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The bible was an cosmos study; it is horribly deformed and turned into a story with fictional people and charactors. The only information you should be getting from the bible(studies done from the tower of Babel) are astronomy and cosmos sciences.
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The bible was an cosmos study; it is horribly deformed and turned into a story with fictional people and charactors. The only information you should be getting from the bible(studies done from the tower of Babel) are astronomy and cosmos sciences.
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Now individuals cherry-pick whatever words, phases, or dogmas from whatever religion that makes them comfortable so they don't have to do the REAL deal.
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Jesus & Mohammed were just ordinary humans. They had no supernatural powers like other pagan gods.


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Re: do christians really believe that the earth is only 5000 years old and humans are not primates and dinosaurs never existed?
Well, since the sun wasn't created until day 4, then having a 24-hour solar day for day 1-3 seems unlikely. Actually, it seems a bit insulting that the creator of the universe revolves around our sun. I'd assume that there might be a better time-keeping method that would be outside of our universe.
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Dinosaurs are mentioned in the Bible, so you can remove this from the title.
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Re: do christians really believe that the earth is only 5000 years old and humans are not primates and dinosaurs never existed?
Dinosaurs are mentioned in the Bible, so you can remove this from the title.
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Where exactly?
See, I asked that question to a jehovas witness that stopped me on the street on my way to work. She said she could not answer, but if she could come home to me at a later date, she would have an answer. I said no, but that I walk this route everyday, so she could feel free to look for me when she found an answer.
Some days went by, and she came to find me with a few of her friends. They had come to the conclusion that the one line that says something along the lines of "And god created every living being, from the ones that walked on earth, to those that lives in swamps" (I don't know the exact quote, but something along those lines). So they meant that that was obviously the dinosaurs.

My conclusion; Not good enough.

Also, you'd think that the dinosaurs would warrant more than just a mention.
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Re: do christians really believe that the earth is only 5000 years old and humans are not primates and dinosaurs never existed?
Unfortunatley they do. I know its fucking coocookachoo!
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Re: do christians really believe that the earth is only 5000 years old and humans are not primates and dinosaurs never existed?
kitty Um, 6,000 years actually.

The Earth is 6,000 Years Old.

It's a sad thing that many Christians have an appalling lack of biblical understanding, that at times enables our enemies to run rings around us. To take one example: You often see or read of mockers in the media saying words to the effect that: "The bible is inaccurate because it says that the earth is only 6,000 years old."

But the bible also says...2Pe 3:8 But, beloved, be not ignorant of this one thing, that one day [is] with the Lord as a thousand years, and a thousand years as one day.

You can easily work out for yourself that if you multiply 360 days (lunar years) x 6,000 x 1,000 that you get a figure of well over 2 billion years. Which also leaves plenty of room for quite a few 1,000 year periods to pass as single days.

No doubt some carping evolutionist will start whingeing that "the bible is still inaccurate because the earth is 6 billion (or whatever) years old. And I've got two good answers to that one.

Firstly: Just because you have blind faith in (a) the inherent accuracy of their scientific instruments. (b) The true scientific integrity of those doing the laboratory work. (c) That they cannot be fooled by false readings and/or assumptions. Pleeeeeeeeze do not expect me to take your shaky assumptions at face value. I know for a fact that false science is being used to bamboozle everyone into believing what they say about 'global warming', so why should I give you the benefit of the doubt.

Secondly: Try and explain this one away. We are told in the story of creation that the earth was formed from the small stuff that was left over after the creation of the universe. Therefore it should be quite reasonable to expect that for instance one group of about 500 million cubic miles of rock that outcrops on the earth's surface is perhaps 6 billion or so years old. Another outcrop of perhaps 200 million cubic miles could be 3 or 4 billion years old. And so on.

To sum up. If the material that was used to make the earth was in existence before the earth was formed, then obviously it is older than the earth.

So if in the future you hear some idiot spouting off about "the bible being inaccurate because it says that the earth is only 6,000 years old," you can correct them
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Re: do christians really believe that the earth is only 5000 years old and humans are not primates and dinosaurs never existed?
Dinosaurs are mentioned in the Bible, so you can remove this from the title.
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Where exactly?
See, I asked that question to a jehovas witness that stopped me on the street on my way to work. She said she could not answer, but if she could come home to me at a later date, she would have an answer. I said no, but that I walk this route everyday, so she could feel free to look for me when she found an answer.
Some days went by, and she came to find me with a few of her friends. They had come to the conclusion that the one line that says something along the lines of "And god created every living being, from the ones that walked on earth, to those that lives in swamps" (I don't know the exact quote, but something along those lines). So they meant that that was obviously the dinosaurs.

My conclusion; Not good enough.

Also, you'd think that the dinosaurs would warrant more than just a mention.
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The word dinosaurs was only first used in 1841 well before the bible was written. The word used for those beast in olden days was dragons.
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Re: do christians really believe that the earth is only 5000 years old and humans are not primates and dinosaurs never existed?
Dinosaurs are mentioned in the Bible, so you can remove this from the title.
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Where exactly?
See, I asked that question to a jehovas witness that stopped me on the street on my way to work. She said she could not answer, but if she could come home to me at a later date, she would have an answer. I said no, but that I walk this route everyday, so she could feel free to look for me when she found an answer.
Some days went by, and she came to find me with a few of her friends. They had come to the conclusion that the one line that says something along the lines of "And god created every living being, from the ones that walked on earth, to those that lives in swamps" (I don't know the exact quote, but something along those lines). So they meant that that was obviously the dinosaurs.

My conclusion; Not good enough.

Also, you'd think that the dinosaurs would warrant more than just a mention.
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There are very few animals mentioned by name in the Bible. Does that mean that the too didn't exist? Here is a snippet that sounds like it could be a dinosaur. Job 40:15–24
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Here is a good site that explains Biblical chronology [link to www.nwcreation.net]
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Re: do christians really believe that the earth is only 5000 years old and humans are not primates and dinosaurs never existed?
What about the unicorn being mentioned in the bible? There are several references to large serpents (possibly dinosaurs) as well as unicorns and giants. Are they true I have no idea, but that is up to each person to decide for themselves.
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Re: do christians really believe that the earth is only 5000 years old and humans are not primates and dinosaurs never existed?
Dinosaurs are mentioned in the Bible, so you can remove this from the title.
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Where exactly?
See, I asked that question to a jehovas witness that stopped me on the street on my way to work. She said she could not answer, but if she could come home to me at a later date, she would have an answer. I said no, but that I walk this route everyday, so she could feel free to look for me when she found an answer.
Some days went by, and she came to find me with a few of her friends. They had come to the conclusion that the one line that says something along the lines of "And god created every living being, from the ones that walked on earth, to those that lives in swamps" (I don't know the exact quote, but something along those lines). So they meant that that was obviously the dinosaurs.

My conclusion; Not good enough.

Also, you'd think that the dinosaurs would warrant more than just a mention.
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The word "dinosaur" is very recent. The Bible does not mention squirrels either so they do not exist.
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Re: do christians really believe that the earth is only 5000 years old and humans are not primates and dinosaurs never existed?
10,000, not 5,000
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Re: do christians really believe that the earth is only 5000 years old and humans are not primates and dinosaurs never existed?
Do people realize what an old earth would mean to human population growth ( And Collapse ?)

Let's say that humans had first "appeared" 100,000 years ago.

It is safe to say that every 4000-5000 years based on population growth.....there would have to be severe cataclisms to knock down the population by 90-95% repeatedly.

It only took about 4400 years for the earths population growth from 8 people to 6-7 billion people.

If humans had been around for 100,000 years....there would be so many artifacts, you would be digging them up everywhere.

Fact of the matter is Noah's worldwide flood happened at at time when the earth's population was probably well over a billion people.

The fossile record is based on a flawed theory that sediments had been deposited relatively slowly.....but the real record is that 100's if not 1000's of feet of sediment were deposited in a year about 4400 years ago.

You have been lied to about evolution, the big bang and the judgements of God.
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Dinosaurs lived before the great flood, that's why we find so many fossiles buried all over the world in mud, in sediment layed down by water.

It is possible, that the huge dinsaurs were the result of genetic manipulation. The fallen angels (watchers), according to the Book of Enoch, sinned against nature, including humans, animals and even plants.
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kitty Um, 6,000 years actually.

The Earth is 6,000 Years Old.

It's a sad thing that many Christians have an appalling lack of biblical understanding, that at times enables our enemies to run rings around us. To take one example: You often see or read of mockers in the media saying words to the effect that: "The bible is inaccurate because it says that the earth is only 6,000 years old."

But the bible also says...2Pe 3:8 But, beloved, be not ignorant of this one thing, that one day [is] with the Lord as a thousand years, and a thousand years as one day.

You can easily work out for yourself that if you multiply 360 days (lunar years) x 6,000 x 1,000 that you get a figure of well over 2 billion years. Which also leaves plenty of room for quite a few 1,000 year periods to pass as single days.

No doubt some carping evolutionist will start whingeing that "the bible is still inaccurate because the earth is 6 billion (or whatever) years old. And I've got two good answers to that one.

Firstly: Just because you have blind faith in (a) the inherent accuracy of their scientific instruments. (b) The true scientific integrity of those doing the laboratory work. (c) That they cannot be fooled by false readings and/or assumptions. Pleeeeeeeeze do not expect me to take your shaky assumptions at face value. I know for a fact that false science is being used to bamboozle everyone into believing what they say about 'global warming', so why should I give you the benefit of the doubt.

Secondly: Try and explain this one away. We are told in the story of creation that the earth was formed from the small stuff that was left over after the creation of the universe. Therefore it should be quite reasonable to expect that for instance one group of about 500 million cubic miles of rock that outcrops on the earth's surface is perhaps 6 billion or so years old. Another outcrop of perhaps 200 million cubic miles could be 3 or 4 billion years old. And so on.

To sum up. If the material that was used to make the earth was in existence before the earth was formed, then obviously it is older than the earth.

So if in the future you hear some idiot spouting off about "the bible being inaccurate because it says that the earth is only 6,000 years old," you can correct them
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dosnt the bible ralk about a falling out with satan and the earth became void. void for how many years???

you gotta be delusional to belive it is 6,000 years old
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Dinosaurs are mentioned in the Bible, so you can remove this from the title.
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dosnt the bible ralk about a falling out with satan and the earth became void. void for how many years???

you gotta be delusional to belive it is 6,000 years old
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Think about it, where did you get the idea that the world is several billion years old?

Take dinosaurs again, they were buried in sediment, later the sediment eroded away and the bones became exposed. If that erosion had been going on for 65 million years, that would mean that the sediment layers must have been thousands of miles thick, based on the rate of erosion we can observe. It just doesn't add up. They cannot be 65 million years old, just a few thousand years. Also they found T Rex femur bones with soft tissue still elastic.
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Dinosaurs are mentioned in the Bible, so you can remove this from the title.
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Where exactly?
See, I asked that question to a jehovas witness that stopped me on the street on my way to work. She said she could not answer, but if she could come home to me at a later date, she would have an answer. I said no, but that I walk this route everyday, so she could feel free to look for me when she found an answer.
Some days went by, and she came to find me with a few of her friends. They had come to the conclusion that the one line that says something along the lines of "And god created every living being, from the ones that walked on earth, to those that lives in swamps" (I don't know the exact quote, but something along those lines). So they meant that that was obviously the dinosaurs.

My conclusion; Not good enough.

Also, you'd think that the dinosaurs would warrant more than just a mention.
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The word "dinosaur" is very recent. The Bible does not mention squirrels either so they do not exist.
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Considering that dinosaurs actually ruled this planet for quite some time, warrants at least a page worth, or a whole explanation of why they were created first and were around for so long, before man, if I'm going to believe a word of it.
Squirrels and other animals are a whole different thing. Can't even be compared.

And the fact that the word dinosaur is very recent, must be because it has been edited and inserted because there has never been a good enough explanation in the bible on the dinosaur business.
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They date the bones according to what "layer" it's found in. They date the layer according to what type of bones found in it. The gelogic column was invented by Brittish lawyer Charles Lyell. This column cannot be found anywhere in nature.
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[link to www.drdino.com]
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What about the unicorn being mentioned in the bible? There are several references to large serpents (possibly dinosaurs) as well as unicorns and giants. Are they true I have no idea, but that is up to each person to decide for themselves.
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Well if the word rhinoceros wasn't around then unicorn might just have describe that animal well. Just because we see a pretty horse with a horn nowadays portraying a unicorn doesn't mean that is the way they looked in the bible.

The horsey unicorn is a myth the Rhinoceros unicornis or Indian rhino is real and was then too.
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christians are so full of shit poop
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What about the unicorn being mentioned in the bible? There are several references to large serpents (possibly dinosaurs) as well as unicorns and giants. Are they true I have no idea, but that is up to each person to decide for themselves.
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Well if the word rhinoceros wasn't around then unicorn might just have describe that animal well. Just because we see a pretty horse with a horn nowadays portraying a unicorn doesn't mean that is the way they looked in the bible.

The horsey unicorn is a myth the Rhinoceros unicornis or Indian rhino is real and was then too.
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Rhinoceroz unicornz ruining our childhoodz....
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When you see perfect horisontal layers for example on a mountain slope, that means that the layers where put down by water and mud, and rapidly, not over millions of years.
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When you see perfect horisontal layers for example on a mountain slope, that means that the layers where put down by water and mud, and rapidly, not over millions of years.
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Trillions of millionbillions!
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christians are so full of shit poop
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This isn't really about christianity, it's about science and to observe the things we see in nature and make a model that fits the data.

Science have absolutely no theory or even hypothesis that explains the macroevolution of animals. None. Zip. It cannot be observed, there's no mechanism known to science that increase complexity out of random chance or mutation (random change).

The evolution theory is probably THE most destructive teaching in human history, it's destructive, demoralising and evil.

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