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EX satanist spills the beans on the christian church infiltration and the truth behind why most christians are so cold and heartless.

 
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Jesus warned about hell. Was He a satanist too?

Don't think so.


Mark 9:42-48

And whosoever shall offend one of these little ones that believe in me, it is better for him that a millstone were hanged about his neck, and he were cast into the sea.

And if thy hand offend thee, cut it off: it is better for thee to enter into life maimed, than having two hands to go into hell, into the fire that never shall be quenched:

Where their worm dieth not, and the fire is not quenched.

And if thy foot offend thee, cut it off: it is better for thee to enter halt into life, than having two feet to be cast into hell, into the fire that never shall be quenched:

Where their worm dieth not, and the fire is not quenched.

And if thine eye offend thee, pluck it out: it is better for thee to enter into the kingdom of God with one eye, than having two eyes to be cast into hell fire:

Where their worm dieth not, and the fire is not quenched.
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Jesus warned about hell. Was He a satanist too?

Don't think so.


Mark 9:42-48

And whosoever shall offend one of these little ones that believe in me, it is better for him that a millstone were hanged about his neck, and he were cast into the sea.

And if thy hand offend thee, cut it off: it is better for thee to enter into life maimed, than having two hands to go into hell, into the fire that never shall be quenched:

Where their worm dieth not, and the fire is not quenched.

And if thy foot offend thee, cut it off: it is better for thee to enter halt into life, than having two feet to be cast into hell, into the fire that never shall be quenched:

Where their worm dieth not, and the fire is not quenched.

And if thine eye offend thee, pluck it out: it is better for thee to enter into the kingdom of God with one eye, than having two eyes to be cast into hell fire:

Where their worm dieth not, and the fire is not quenched.
 Quoting: Petrus


He was talking about Gehenna. A place that was crawling with maggots and the fire never went out.

In other words he was saying you would end up consumed on the garbage dump.

He was probably standing near it when he made those statements to make the point.

But its been twisted into something else.

Something that makes God out to be an evil sadist.

OP was right.

The programming runs very deep and has been very successful.
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Being an ex satanist I know exactly what evil is.

I met the lord after 20 years as a satanist and it was not in a church. I am yet to meet God in a church. Satan is far more at home in churches today that he was in the covens I oversaw. With good reason.

We used to infiltrate churches all the time and my ex bretheren still do.

The fruits of our labours are what you see in how they treat people with a cold hard indifference and every word they speak is threats of fire and loads of fear.

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:9teen: Well first off I don't believe that you are an "ex Satanist" at all. Although i will say that you have a slick line of patter that sounds good to weak willed, backslidden 'Christians,' and general unbelievers.

Maybe most people don't like to hear it but Hell exists and most people will (I'm sorry to say) finish up there. In fact it says in the bible that Hell will have to be enlarged to take the huge numbers of people who will be going there.

And you stand there saying that people who warn about Hell are cold, hard and indifferent! You are contemptible.

As for the rest of you, if you would like to know more about this subject from a biblical point of view.

THIS WAS YOUR LIFE!... [link to www.chick.com]
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A voice of reason! Right you are! hf
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Well I can believe that satanists have infiltrated the church in some way, but I find it ironic that you then go on to criticise the church - clearly many of the problems stem from the fact that satanists are having some influence in places?!

I heard that about Billy Graham recently from another source and agree some of the wild evangelical and spiritual churches, speaking in tongues and writhing round in public seems pretty freaky.

Other than that, yes, a personal relationship with Jesus Christ the saviour, God of Love, Prince of Peace, is what we should strive for first and foremost, for the strength to love each other and lead good lives. Holy Spirit guide us!

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Well I can believe that satanists have infiltrated the church in some way, but I find it ironic that you then go on to criticise the church - clearly many of the problems stem from the fact that satanists are having some influence in places?!

I heard that about Billy Graham recently from another source and agree some of the wild evangelical and spiritual churches, speaking in tongues and writhing round in public seems pretty freaky.

Other than that, yes, a personal relationship with Jesus Christ the saviour, God of Love, Prince of Peace, is what we should strive for first and foremost, for the strength to love each other and lead good lives. Holy Spirit guide us!

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Having a personal relationship is all well and good.

But how can most of the ones who claim they have a personal relationship with the author of love be the most hate filled judgmental callous and hellfire torture breathing ones out there?

The hypocrisy is permeated in every church I have ever been to.

Thinking they are good and holy when they by their words and their action only show they are evil and unholy?.

They sit up on a pedastal and proclaim doom and torture and death as the invention of the Author of Love.

How can this be?

Isnt satan the author of doom and torture and death?

Was it not satan who was the first one to use pride which led to hate?

Then why do so many "Christians" and churches preach pride and hate and doom and death to all who dont follow their interpretation of things?

Isnt that satans way of doing things?

Ive seen thousands of so called "Born again spirit filled" christians hating eachother and everyone else with a hate and vehemence that satan would be very proud of.

I mean look at that Judithz woman with her doom filled chick tracts/

Its all about threats of torture in a horrifying dungeon that GOD created. Cant God reach people without having to resort to torture as a threat?

Since when did God get into the blackmail business?

Isnt blackmail and torture SATANS domain?

Isnt it satans tactic to DEMAND people worship him on pain of death?

Isnt it satans wish and plan to MARK everyone on the planet and FORCE people to worship him as god ON PAIN OF DEATH?

Didnt Jesus say that the best way to tell good apart from evil is by its fruits or its results?

So how come the "Born again spirit filled" ones who claim to be full of the love of God preach the very SAME doctrine satan preaches,,,which is..worship ME or DIE?

How can God claim the high ground if he uses the SAME tactics..threats..and FEAR that satan uses?

Either satan and god are one and the same being..

OR...

Satan has very cunnungly programmed most christians into accepting God has the right to be exactly what satan is.

A terrifying megolomaniac worship demanding torturing tyrant.

God CANNOT be that.

So what is the answer?

Going by OP's post and what I know of the churches and satanism I would say satan has been very clever.

Jesus was right when he warned of sending a strong delusion.

The churches and the current doctrine portraying God to be the same or worse than satan is about as deluded as you can get.
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Hail Satin!
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Nah...satin is too cold and slippery. I prefer wool or cotton myself. Sometimes polyester is OK too. But satin? No thank you! tounge
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What have you got against silk HUH?

For that heresy you shall BURRRN!!

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How can God claim the high ground if he uses the SAME tactics..threats..and FEAR
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judethc Don't knock it. Fear has it's honorable place in the greater scheme of things.

Job 28:28 And unto man he said, Behold, the fear of the Lord, that [is] wisdom; and to depart from evil [is] understanding.

Psa 111:10 The fear of the LORD [is] the beginning of wisdom: a good understanding have all they that do [his commandments]: his praise endureth for ever.

Pro 1:7 The fear of the LORD [is] the beginning of knowledge: [but] fools despise wisdom and instruction.

Pro 9:10 The fear of the LORD [is] the beginning of wisdom: and the knowledge of the holy [is] understanding.

Pro 15:33 The fear of the LORD [is] the instruction of wisdom; and before honour [is] humility.

Isa 11:2 And the spirit of the LORD shall rest upon him, the spirit of wisdom and understanding, the spirit of counsel and might, the spirit of knowledge and of the fear of the LORD;

Isa 33:6 And wisdom and knowledge shall be the stability of thy times, [and] strength of salvation: the fear of the LORD [is] his treasure.
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How can God claim the high ground if he uses the SAME tactics..threats..and FEAR
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:judethc: Don't knock it. Fear has it's honorable place in the greater scheme of things.

Job 28:28 And unto man he said, Behold, the fear of the Lord, that [is] wisdom; and to depart from evil [is] understanding.

Psa 111:10 The fear of the LORD [is] the beginning of wisdom: a good understanding have all they that do [his commandments]: his praise endureth for ever.

Pro 1:7 The fear of the LORD [is] the beginning of knowledge: [but] fools despise wisdom and instruction.

Pro 9:10 The fear of the LORD [is] the beginning of wisdom: and the knowledge of the holy [is] understanding.

Pro 15:33 The fear of the LORD [is] the instruction of wisdom; and before honour [is] humility.

Isa 11:2 And the spirit of the LORD shall rest upon him, the spirit of wisdom and understanding, the spirit of counsel and might, the spirit of knowledge and of the fear of the LORD;

Isa 33:6 And wisdom and knowledge shall be the stability of thy times, [and] strength of salvation: the fear of the LORD [is] his treasure.

 Quoting: Judethz


So you are agreeing with everything the OP said?

I think you get fear mixed up with the terror of coercion.

God has blackmailed you with threats and beaten you over the head with threats of hell and THATS why you follow him?

Its a lousy and pretence ridden reason to follow someone who claims they love you.

Thats like me being the friend of the biggest bastart in a prison because he threatened me with very unpleasant things if I DIDNT be his friend and pay him "Protection" money.
NO different that to why christians follow God.

Deep down you resent God deeply for the sword he holds over your head every day.

The God you worship is as evil as the prison standover guy.

Have fun with your tyrant.

I think you will find he is really satan.
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The greatest trick the devil ever pulled was convincing the world that he is god.
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my sister and i always used to joke about baptists looking both ways before crossing the street because they are terrified of the bus driven by bealzebub coming to run all the good christians down. they learn about it at bible camps, between all the sex they have, i think...there's always a pastor or youth leader that asks them where will they go if they die tonight...what if they leave right now and get hit by a bus lol

the bealzebub bus --- patrollin for the christians
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Here is where you fell.
This is where I got up,
Shaking off my tail
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Started to look stale.
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The greatest trick the devil ever pulled was convincing the world that he is god.
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The greatest trick the devil ever pulled was convincing the world that he is god.
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WELL said.
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All you have to do is step inside a catholic church and you can feel the evil...they are all disgusting, depressing, dark, and brooding...the exact opposite of what you should be feeling. And notice how during the mass they never forget to PUT A FUCKING BASKET IN FRONT ON YOU SO YOU CAN PUT YOUR MONEY INTO IT. Pathetic, deceptive, and amazing how brainwashed most people are, they believe this satanic pagan ritual garbage hook, line, and sinker like gullible desperate fools and idiots, worshipping some far out fishy fairy tale about some made up space santa clause who gets murdered in cold blood, then the murder somehow "saves everyone's soul" but "only if you worship it and force yourself to believe it". WHAT A BUNCH OF BULLSHIT! The worst kind.
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OP -- there are as many hells as there are souls, because each of us can make our own hell and choose to go there; just as each of us can make our own heaven and choose to go there. It all comes down to free-will choice, and what we do with our time on earth. What we do with our time on earth determines where we end up, forever.


If that doesn't give you pause, I don't know what will.


Here's my advice: Please choose the good; please choose God and heaven. Please choose what you feel in your gut of guts is the right thing, even if you don't believe in God.


I speak as a former atheist, born and raised and denying God's existence for 36 years until one day I reached rock bottom spiritually and the pain got so bad I could no longer breathe and I died.... hell is real. I know, because I was at its doorstep.


This, to me, is hell: the worst pain you've ever felt, emotionally, mentally, physically; the worst fears; the worst shame; the worst feelings of abandonment and confusion; the worst panic attack, the worst drug trip, the worst smells and tastes and sights -- endless vomiting convulsions and labour pains -- hell is the feeling you get when you think of the one person in the world that you love with all your heart being tortured in front of you and you can do nothing to stop it.... hell is all your worst fears, every single one of them, coming true at once, over and over again.... hell is all this to the nth degree, forever.


Hell is not only feeling there is no hope but KNOWING there is no hope. There is truly no hope in hell.


I don't know about you, but I have no desire to go anywhere near in my soul where I was as an atheist 12 years ago. You can choose to deny the existence of hell if you want to (you have free will), but you're wrong to do so, and you'll be held accountable to all the souls you've misled, not just your own.


I don't focus on hell as a Christian, but I'm very cognizant of its existence. I focus on loving God and doing his will. I'm not always successful, but I keep going. Normally I don't bother to respond when threads are just set up to provoke Christians and attack God and Jesus, but this one needed a dose of reality.


Hell is real. God is real. Jesus is real. I'm for real. You make your own hell through your choices, and trust me when I say hell looks NOTHING like the Hollywood version.
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selling what jesus gave away for free is a sure sign of a satanist

lot of millionaire evangelists out there. How many of the apostles were wealthy?
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selling what jesus gave away for free is a sure sign of a satanist

lot of millionaire evangelists out there. How many of the apostles were wealthy?
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How many true Christians are wealthy? (How wealthy was Jesus?)


Money and what it buys is so over-rated. The good Lord provides to those who make an effort within their capacity. Those who make an effort will always have enough. If they have more than enough, then they have too much, and they're taking away from someone else.


As far as commandments go, "Thou shallt not covet" is not very popular these days.
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Satan isn't evil.
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you miss the point - the christians are evil - not satan himself ;)

and yes, i feel this to be true.
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The whole world is evil.What man can resist it?None.The wages of sin is death.Thus GOD gave his son as a sacrifice for our sins,otherwise there would be no hope for us.Quite a simple concept,that sin will try to blind one of.I can not prove this to you.Pray for GOD to open your eyes,and he will.If you are looking for a christian to show you the way to the truth,we will only disappoint you for we too are flawed,set your sights on JESUS,that is our example.
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Most christians today worship MONEY

they love their money more than God

In fact, they have no clue who God really is


You know the state of decay is pretty great when they

pray for material items and believe God gives it to them

Christians are taught the laws of Babylon today and have no clue what is reality


They are taught to pray for that new house, that new car


this is in error and an abomination to the Real Lord

God is not in the business of giving out material items of this world

God is only in the business of HIS Kingdom


Most christians today are going to a very hot place and have not clue how mislead they really are
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Hell is not only feeling there is no hope but KNOWING there is no hope. There is truly no hope in hell.


I don't know about you, but I have no desire to go anywhere near in my soul where I was as an atheist 12 years ago. You can choose to deny the existence of hell if you want to (you have free will), but you're wrong to do so, and you'll be held accountable to all the souls you've misled, not just your own.
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N/A. I believed in hellfire like a good clone for 2 decades, but only once I outgrew my Laodicean hypocrisy and started to get serious with God did I come to the truth - that hell is a pagan fairytale with no basis in the scriptures. Somehow, Christians idolize this myth, unaware of the degree of slander it bears towards the Father.

Fortunately, Jesus is not a Would-be Savior, falling short with some kind of 90% failure rate. That would suck. The Good News is that God is Love, and Love never fails, and He won't have any need to dispose of anyone.
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selling what jesus gave away for free is a sure sign of a satanist

lot of millionaire evangelists out there. How many of the apostles were wealthy?
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I dont see them doing what Jesus would do with that money

giving to those with nothing

There are so many children in this world living in dumps and eating out of dumps;

where are those rich christians???

Bathing in their lap of luxury just like the Satanists and atheists do

they are no different than these today


and will find they are bound for a hot place
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Hell is not only feeling there is no hope but KNOWING there is no hope. There is truly no hope in hell.


I don't know about you, but I have no desire to go anywhere near in my soul where I was as an atheist 12 years ago. You can choose to deny the existence of hell if you want to (you have free will), but you're wrong to do so, and you'll be held accountable to all the souls you've misled, not just your own.
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N/A. I believed in hellfire like a good clone for 2 decades, but only once I outgrew my Laodicean hypocrisy and started to get serious with God did I come to the truth - that hell is a pagan fairytale with no basis in the scriptures. Somehow, Christians idolize this myth, unaware of the degree of slander it bears towards the Father.

Fortunately, Jesus is not a Would-be Savior, falling short with some kind of 90% failure rate. That would suck. The Good News is that God is Love, and Love never fails, and He won't have any need to dispose of anyone.
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That's a lie. God is just and merciful, but justice by definition necessarily involves punishment. True Christians don't idolize hell; they're cognizant of it and want to avoid it at all costs.

God is merciful, certainly, but how could he claim to be just if everyone, regardless of what they have done, gets the same reward in the end?

Saying all deserve the same reward in the end is illogical. It's daycare logic. We all have the same opportunity to say yes or no to God's way, and God honors our choices, even if they land us ultimately in hell.

Jesus tells us about judgement and about how most souls will NOT make it to heaven. You truly need to reread the Bible and rely less on your own mind.
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Saying all deserve the same reward in the end is illogical. It's daycare logic.
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I didn't say all deserve the same judgment. We do all have judgment coming, but the catch is that God's judgment *always* fits the offense. Jesus said we'll each receive due for our deeds, which confirms the eye-for-an-eye, tooth-for-tooth, and burn-for-burn law of Exodus 21. Both Justice and Mercy assure that there's no "going overboard" with punishment. Murderers will face a much steeper reckoning than some nobody with a drug problem or whatever. And speaking of murder, read what Cain's punishment was. . .you would think God would've used that opportunity to clearly announce the reality of an afterlife of fiery damnation, yes? But Cain's sentence doesn't include anything along those lines? Why such a glaring discrepancy?

God honors our choices, even if they land us ultimately in hell.
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OK - if God yields to our alleged "free will", we can only conclude that when every knee bows and every tongue confesses the Lord, those multitudes will be soing so voluntarily by their own choice, yes? In such a case, how is salvation not utterly *poured* upon them?

You truly need to reread the Bible and rely less on your own mind.
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I was relying on my own mind back when I was an immature churchbot. No more, though. I'm finally learning to listen and to see.
The problem with the bible is that it was not initially issued in English - it was written in Hebrew & Greek. A mere hour comparing a KJV or most any other English translation with the root Greek upon which it's supposedly based can be pretty enlightening. It turns out that "forever" is not endless, "hell" is just a landfill, and "judgment" actually consists of a crisis.
I've been studying this for over 4 years now. It turns out that the concept of Hell was smuggled into the mix when Rome took over and corrupted everything with their Mary-worship and Easter, etc. The early christian fathers of the fist couple of centuries believed in the eventual reconciliation of all. Go figure.
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Check out Revelation 14:10, where we're told that the wicked "shall be tormented with fire and brimstone in the presence of the holy angels, and in the presence of the Lamb".

Why would the Lamb be there, if indeed the "torment" is nothing more than vengeful torture? Do you suppose our humble Jesus is eager to view the suffering and agony of the lost?
Or, are they perhaps undergoing their discipline *inside* the presence of the Lamb? If God is a consuming fire, is it too preposterous to consider that perhaps the Lake of Fire is some aspect of God Himself?
We're told He's a Refiner, using "fire" to purify us as silver. We hopefully understand that throughout scripture, fire is symbolic of trials and testings, as mentioned by Peter. God's law itself is a "fire" (Jeremiah 23). Is it likely that we believers get mere symbolic fire, but unbelievers are given literal fire? Is this really how God does things?



The Greek word for "torment(ed)" here is basanizo.
This same word appears in the gospels a couple of times, but is translated differently. . .

Matthew 14: But the ship was now in the midst of the sea, tossed with waves: for the wind was contrary.

Mark 6: And he saw them toiling in rowing; for the wind was contrary unto them: and about the fourth watch of the night he cometh unto them, walking upon the sea, and would have passed by them.

Toiling and tossing is the nature of the "torment" they underwent on an actual lake. Struggling to row against the current is tough, but not exactly unbearable or inhumane. Perhaps this provides a little insight on the nature of the "torment" experienced in the Lake of Fire. Or not. I dunno.
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Wow, Jesus Christ and all of the Apostles taught on Hell...I wonder if they were all Satanic infiltrators?

Looks to me that you still haven't left the mind control and manipulation behind, in a sense, you are still serving Satan. Perhaps you'll find some gullable Christians to sell your story to, but I have been around the block a few times to believe this trype. Yes Satanists infiltrate churches, but Hell (the underworld) is an orthodox doctrine of the saints. Hell is a dimensional holding area for the spirits of the dead...the real threat is the Lake of Fire, where Jesus told was "weeping, wailing, and gnashing of teeth."
"Glory is what happens when faith overcomes adversity."
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You say no satanist would proclaim Jesus will return and sit at the right hand of God, yet the bible tells us even Satan knew the Lord was most hIgh.

Also the statement that all churches have a satanist is incorrect. You do not have nearly enough knowledge or facts to prove such a statement. If you do please give me the list for 32822 zip code? Then I will listen.


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How can God claim the high ground if he uses the SAME tactics..threats..and FEAR
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:judethc: Don't knock it. Fear has it's honorable place in the greater scheme of things.

Job 28:28 And unto man he said, Behold, the fear of the Lord, that [is] wisdom; and to depart from evil [is] understanding.

Psa 111:10 The fear of the LORD [is] the beginning of wisdom: a good understanding have all they that do [his commandments]: his praise endureth for ever.

Pro 1:7 The fear of the LORD [is] the beginning of knowledge: [but] fools despise wisdom and instruction.

Pro 9:10 The fear of the LORD [is] the beginning of wisdom: and the knowledge of the holy [is] understanding.

Pro 15:33 The fear of the LORD [is] the instruction of wisdom; and before honour [is] humility.

Isa 11:2 And the spirit of the LORD shall rest upon him, the spirit of wisdom and understanding, the spirit of counsel and might, the spirit of knowledge and of the fear of the LORD;

Isa 33:6 And wisdom and knowledge shall be the stability of thy times, [and] strength of salvation: the fear of the LORD [is] his treasure.

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So you are agreeing with everything the OP said?

I think you get fear mixed up with the terror of coercion.

God has blackmailed you with threats and beaten you over the head with threats of hell and THATS why you follow him?

Its a lousy and pretence ridden reason to follow someone who claims they love you.

Thats like me being the friend of the biggest bastart in a prison because he threatened me with very unpleasant things if I DIDNT be his friend and pay him "Protection" money.
NO different that to why christians follow God.

Deep down you resent God deeply for the sword he holds over your head every day.

The God you worship is as evil as the prison standover guy.

Have fun with your tyrant.

I think you will find he is really satan.
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BLackmail..hell..terror..torture..force..threats..and DEATH are all hallmarks of the SATANIC GOSPEL....the BAD NEWS.
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If people who professed to believe in God would just pick up their Bibles and ask God for understanding, they would see the deceipt evident in most churches! It makes me so sad to see that most don't get the overwhelming message in the OT and NT - the shepherds were (and still are) leading the flocks astray!

Jesus CAME TO SMITE THE SHEPHERDS.

Understand what that means. God is the Rock - His Words are to be your foundation so you don't get washed away by satan's flood of words.

Guess who else hangs out on rocks?

Serpents.
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Wow, Jesus Christ and all of the Apostles taught on Hell...I wonder if they were all Satanic infiltrators?

Looks to me that you still haven't left the mind control and manipulation behind, in a sense, you are still serving Satan. Perhaps you'll find some gullable Christians to sell your story to, but I have been around the block a few times to believe this trype. Yes Satanists infiltrate churches, but Hell (the underworld) is an orthodox doctrine of the saints. Hell is a dimensional holding area for the spirits of the dead...the real threat is the Lake of Fire, where Jesus told was "weeping, wailing, and gnashing of teeth."
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Amen!!!
God Is! We're not! Let's knock off all the nonsense!
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Oh please, take note from x satanist.

Of course it is all lies.

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