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EX satanist spills the beans on the christian church infiltration and the truth behind why most christians are so cold and heartless.

 
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Wow, Jesus Christ and all of the Apostles taught on Hell...I wonder if they were all Satanic infiltrators?

Looks to me that you still haven't left the mind control and manipulation behind, in a sense, you are still serving Satan. Perhaps you'll find some gullable Christians to sell your story to, but I have been around the block a few times to believe this trype. Yes Satanists infiltrate churches, but Hell (the underworld) is an orthodox doctrine of the saints. Hell is a dimensional holding area for the spirits of the dead...the real threat is the Lake of Fire, where Jesus told was "weeping, wailing, and gnashing of teeth."
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Amen!!!
 Quoting: jdb


Hell is NOT an orhodox doctrine.

Its only been taught in the churches since 500 ad.

The myths of the hellish undeworld can be traced back to egypt and greece abd babylon..those same myths were incorporated INTO the chuch by the catholics by constantine.

The words Ages of the ages were translated to men forever and ever by good old king james.

Eternal hell was NEVER taught in the early church.

I reccomend you do some UNBIASED study...or are you too afraid to let go of the terror and the doom?
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Jesus said that the Kingdom of Heaven would be like a wedding feast. There would be many who thought they were invited, crying "Lord, Lord, we prophesied in Your Name and cast out demons in Your Name." Then Jesus will say "get away from me, I never knew you."

There will be a great weeping and gnashing of teeth.

Then there will be people who are invited, who say "but we never knew You." Jesus will say, "When you clothed and fed that orphan, you were clothing and feeding me."

These were the kinds of people that the Pharisees spoke of when they complained that Jesus ate with whores and revenue agents.

So what kinds of people does Jesus want to invite to His feast? How can we aspire to that group? I think the strategy is simple.

Be nice. Be aware. Don't be a self-righteous hypocrite. Don't be an asshole.

Good post, OP. I'm not convinced of what you claim is an organized plot to infiltrate the Church. I always figured the psychopaths, control freaks, con artists, pedophiles, and hypocrites just gravitated to the Church naturally.
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Wow, Jesus Christ and all of the Apostles taught on Hell...I wonder if they were all Satanic infiltrators?

Looks to me that you still haven't left the mind control and manipulation behind, in a sense, you are still serving Satan. Perhaps you'll find some gullable Christians to sell your story to, but I have been around the block a few times to believe this trype. Yes Satanists infiltrate churches, but Hell (the underworld) is an orthodox doctrine of the saints. Hell is a dimensional holding area for the spirits of the dead...the real threat is the Lake of Fire, where Jesus told was "weeping, wailing, and gnashing of teeth."
 Quoting: Wingedlion


Amen!!!
 Quoting: jdb


Hell is NOT an orhodox doctrine.

Its only been taught in the churches since 500 ad.

The myths of the hellish undeworld can be traced back to egypt and greece abd babylon..those same myths were incorporated INTO the chuch by the catholics by constantine.

The words Ages of the ages were translated to men forever and ever by good old king james.

Eternal hell was NEVER taught in the early church.

I reccomend you do some UNBIASED study...or are you too afraid to let go of the terror and the doom?
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I preach Jesus Christ! Why so pissed? The idea that hell has only been taught since 500AD...what's up with that? Dude pull your Bible out and read what Jesus had to say about it...wait, I'll do it for you:

Deu_32:22 For a fire is kindled in mine anger, and shall burn unto the lowest hell, and shall consume the earth with her increase, and set on fire the foundations of the mountains.
2Sa_22:6 The sorrows of hell compassed me about; the snares of death prevented me;
Job_11:8 It is as high as heaven; what canst thou do? deeper than hell; what canst thou know?
Job_26:6 Hell is naked before him, and destruction hath no covering.
Psa_9:17 The wicked shall be turned into hell, and all the nations that forget God.
Psa_16:10 For thou wilt not leave my soul in hell; neither wilt thou suffer thine Holy One to see corruption.
Psa_18:5 The sorrows of hell compassed me about: the snares of death prevented me.
Psa_55:15 Let death seize upon them, and let them go down quick into hell: for wickedness is in their dwellings, and among them.
Psa_86:13 For great is thy mercy toward me: and thou hast delivered my soul from the lowest hell.
Psa_116:3 The sorrows of death compassed me, and the pains of hell gat hold upon me: I found trouble and sorrow.
Psa_139:8 If I ascend up into heaven, thou art there: if I make my bed in hell, behold, thou art there.
Pro_5:5 Her feet go down to death; her steps take hold on hell.
Pro_7:27 Her house is the way to hell, going down to the chambers of death.
Pro_9:18 But he knoweth not that the dead are there; and that her guests are in the depths of hell.
Pro_15:11 Hell and destruction are before the LORD: how much more then the hearts of the children of men?
Pro_15:24 The way of life is above to the wise, that he may depart from hell beneath.
Pro_23:14 Thou shalt beat him with the rod, and shalt deliver his soul from hell.
Pro_27:20 Hell and destruction are never full; so the eyes of man are never satisfied.
Isa_5:14 Therefore hell hath enlarged herself, and opened her mouth without measure: and their glory, and their multitude, and their pomp, and he that rejoiceth, shall descend into it.
Isa_14:9 Hell from beneath is moved for thee to meet thee at thy coming: it stirreth up the dead for thee, even all the chief ones of the earth; it hath raised up from their thrones all the kings of the nations.
Isa_14:15 Yet thou shalt be brought down to hell, to the sides of the pit.
Isa_28:15 Because ye have said, We have made a covenant with death, and with hell are we at agreement; when the overflowing scourge shall pass through, it shall not come unto us: for we have made lies our refuge, and under falsehood have we hid ourselves:
Isa_28:18 And your covenant with death shall be disannulled, and your agreement with hell shall not stand; when the overflowing scourge shall pass through, then ye shall be trodden down by it.
Isa_57:9 And thou wentest to the king with ointment, and didst increase thy perfumes, and didst send thy messengers far off, and didst debase thyself even unto hell.
Eze_31:16 I made the nations to shake at the sound of his fall, when I cast him down to hell with them that descend into the pit: and all the trees of Eden, the choice and best of Lebanon, all that drink water, shall be comforted in the nether parts of the earth.
Eze_31:17 They also went down into hell with him unto them that be slain with the sword; and they that were his arm, that dwelt under his shadow in the midst of the heathen.
Eze_32:21 The strong among the mighty shall speak to him out of the midst of hell with them that help him: they are gone down, they lie uncircumcised, slain by the sword.
Eze_32:27 And they shall not lie with the mighty that are fallen of the uncircumcised, which are gone down to hell with their weapons of war: and they have laid their swords under their heads, but their iniquities shall be upon their bones, though they were the terror of the mighty in the land of the living.
Amo_9:2 Though they dig into hell, thence shall mine hand take them; though they climb up to heaven, thence will I bring them down:
Jon_2:2 And said, I cried by reason of mine affliction unto the LORD, and he heard me; out of the belly of hell cried I, and thou heardest my voice.
Hab_2:5 Yea also, because he transgresseth by wine, he is a proud man, neither keepeth at home, who enlargeth his desire as hell, and is as death, and cannot be satisfied, but gathereth unto him all nations, and heapeth unto him all people:
Mat_5:22 But I say unto you, That whosoever is angry with his brother without a cause shall be in danger of the judgment: and whosoever shall say to his brother, Raca, shall be in danger of the council: but whosoever shall say, Thou fool, shall be in danger of hell fire.
Mat_5:29 And if thy right eye offend thee, pluck it out, and cast it from thee: for it is profitable for thee that one of thy members should perish, and not that thy whole body should be cast into hell.
Mat_5:30 And if thy right hand offend thee, cut it off, and cast it from thee: for it is profitable for thee that one of thy members should perish, and not that thy whole body should be cast into hell.
Mat_10:28 And fear not them which kill the body, but are not able to kill the soul: but rather fear him which is able to destroy both soul and body in hell.
Mat_11:23 And thou, Capernaum, which art exalted unto heaven, shalt be brought down to hell: for if the mighty works, which have been done in thee, had been done in Sodom, it would have remained until this day.
Mat_16:18 And I say also unto thee, That thou art Peter, and upon this rock I will build my church; and the gates of hell shall not prevail against it.
Mat_18:9 And if thine eye offend thee, pluck it out, and cast it from thee: it is better for thee to enter into life with one eye, rather than having two eyes to be cast into hell fire.
Mat_23:15 Woe unto you, scribes and Pharisees, hypocrites! for ye compass sea and land to make one proselyte, and when he is made, ye make him twofold more the child of hell than yourselves.
Mat_23:33 Ye serpents, ye generation of vipers, how can ye escape the damnation of hell?
Mar_9:43 And if thy hand offend thee, cut it off: it is better for thee to enter into life maimed, than having two hands to go into hell, into the fire that never shall be quenched:
Mar_9:45 And if thy foot offend thee, cut it off: it is better for thee to enter halt into life, than having two feet to be cast into hell, into the fire that never shall be quenched:
Mar_9:47 And if thine eye offend thee, pluck it out: it is better for thee to enter into the kingdom of God with one eye, than having two eyes to be cast into hell fire:
Luk_10:15 And thou, Capernaum, which art exalted to heaven, shalt be thrust down to hell.
Luk_12:5 But I will forewarn you whom ye shall fear: Fear him, which after he hath killed hath power to cast into hell; yea, I say unto you, Fear him.
Luk_16:23 And in hell he lift up his eyes, being in torments, and seeth Abraham afar off, and Lazarus in his bosom.
Act_2:27 Because thou wilt not leave my soul in hell, neither wilt thou suffer thine Holy One to see corruption.
Act_2:31 He seeing this before spake of the resurrection of Christ, that his soul was not left in hell, neither his flesh did see corruption.
Jas_3:6 And the tongue is a fire, a world of iniquity: so is the tongue among our members, that it defileth the whole body, and setteth on fire the course of nature; and it is set on fire of hell.
2Pe_2:4 For if God spared not the angels that sinned, but cast them down to hell, and delivered them into chains of darkness, to be reserved unto judgment;
Rev_1:18 I am he that liveth, and was dead; and, behold, I am alive for evermore, Amen; and have the keys of hell and of death.
Rev_6:8 And I looked, and behold a pale horse: and his name that sat on him was Death, and Hell followed with him. And power was given unto them over the fourth part of the earth, to kill with sword, and with hunger, and with death, and with the beasts of the earth.
Rev_20:13 And the sea gave up the dead which were in it; and death and hell delivered up the dead which were in them: and they were judged every man according to their works.
Rev_20:14 And death and hell were cast into the lake of fire. This is the second death.

Look man...our commission is to preach the Good News that God did The Work - that Grace is offered! You don't have a problem with me...you have a problem with The Most High God!
God Is! We're not! Let's knock off all the nonsense!
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Not eternal?

Rev_14:11 And the smoke of their torment ascendeth up for ever and ever: and they have no rest day nor night, who worship the beast and his image, and whosoever receiveth the mark of his name.
God Is! We're not! Let's knock off all the nonsense!
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that x satanist has got it right
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All I know is that I called upon Jesus in my hour of need and He reached down into my dismal room and I felt the most Peace, Joy and Love I have ever felt..ever. Pure Love. I want to feel like that every day, I wish I could. Was the most amazing experience I've ever had and I knew His Love for me and for everyone. I always worried He didn't Love me but He does.hf
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hey man, had similair experience, my whole world was crumbling and i was so freaked out and everything, and i cried out for help, from the depths of my heart and soul, and the most amazing peace came on me. also, the face of christ showed up on a towel in front of me. it was amazing. and no i was not on hallucinogenics.

that spirit that was in the flesh of yeshua, is still very much alive and breathing on this earth.
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Whoa man...that gave me chills.
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The Bible speaks more about Hell than it does about Heaven. Only a satanist would NOT preach Hell - your thin cover is blown pal. You tell Christians not to assemble? We wouldn't want to pray for one another, bear one another's burdens and build each other up now would we?

Yeah, we know them by their fruits. Get thee behind thee satan.
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No church is perfect. We all know that. But it is important to attend church to worship. Satan doesn't want Jesus to be worshipped. Fellowship is important as well. Preaching of the "Good News" or gospel is paramount. The message of the gospel IS love. That speaks for itself. Not that the CHURCH loves people...it's that GOD loves people....because he sent his only son to die for us. Jesus talked about hell. There is a hell. It is the rejecting world that is mostly cold and heartless--not most christians. Most christians are LUKEWARM. We are all sinners...it's not about "being good". We need to either accept or reject the gospel...it's as simple as that. Jesus also said to repent. Many are skewing the message and choose NOT to repent. Very telling. Many say that a loving God does not condemn any to hell...when it is clearly not what Jesus said.
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Compare the testimony with this one [link to www.authonomy.com] Some similarities
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The masons founded the satanists and wiccans

They profess to be "christian"
they preach and everything
then you find out they are mason-satanists

And we know who these Templar-Masons work for.
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I don't know who this we is but i would surely like to know a bit more about this who they work for?

Are you talking about the illuminati bloodlines?

I do believe however that the top of the christians is fully ruled by pure satanists. It is a group of people or bloodlines that believed that Jesus (as) was weak since he was crucified so they choose to follow the devil (may he be cursed forever)

So one might assume that the vast majority of priests are actual satanists.

That could explain the jesuit order templars rosicrucians ect ect ect there are so many divisions but all worship the same thing in their masonic lodges...

That doesn't mean that all christians are satanists it is just heavily infiltrated. My guess is you will find those who are truly believers among the regular people and in very small quantities. Most of them would certainly notice that evil lurks in their churches.

By the way it's not just christian churches that are infiltrated it is mosks too. There are also moslim masonic brotherhoods which are at the top pure satanic worship....

And my guess is tha same applies to the jewish synagoges. These must be heavily infiltrated considering their love for money...
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I found this on the "Believe or go to hell" thread but was not sure how to use the "Quote" feature so I just copied it across. I thought it was so thought provoking having known a satanist or two in my days that it deserved its own thread.

I am not agreeing or disagreeing with what this person wrote but I have seen lots of evidence of what he says because I have been in several churches in my 25 years.
What he talks about I have seen when I look back in hundsight. Read it and judge for yourself.

It does explain some of the goings on I personally witnessed and also the people who I knew who were satanists did talk about doing this sort of thing.
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I am an ex satanist and I used to head some covens in %$&^%$#@ and I will be up front and honest when I say that I saw more love and compassion for their fellow man amongst the other satanists than I have seen displayed by most christians here at GLP or anywhere else.

Being an ex satanist I know exactly what evil is.

I met the lord after 20 years as a satanist and it was not in a church. I am yet to meet God in a church. Satan is far more at home in churches today that he was in the covens I oversaw. With good reason.

We used to infiltrate churches all the time and my ex bretheren still do.

The fruits of our labours are what you see in how they treat people with a cold hard indifference and every word they speak is threats of fire and loads of fear.

They are too blinded by self rightousness to see the pure evil that it is.

We loved to attend meetings and go down the front and say the "Sinners" prayer. It gained their trust. Some of us chosen for the task went to bible college and earned degrees so we could become pastors and teachers and deacons ect.

The goal was to gradually introduce the sort of elitism and hate disguised as love you see happenning every time you disagree with a christian or ask them any hard question.

They have been programmed to respond with spite, insults or cold indifference like Ice used to display when ridiculed about his "Rapture" stance during the Harold camping debacle.

The programming is intense and very well ingrained.

It works and keeps on working.

Every church both in Australia and in Americia, especially the pentecostal ones, have a pastor or at least a few counsellors and deacons who are practicing satanists.

The favourite position was pastor or teacher or home group leader. From there we could easily grow on gullible trusting minds the elite mindset and the sheer contempt for all others that you are experiencing.

The most cherrished doctrine and the one that gave us the biggest laugh was the hell doctrine. That was one of my ex masters all time greats and still is today. To think we made a loving God into a satanic monster just like the one WE worshipped and had the "Fools" swallowing it. And what was even more hilarious to me a the time was going out "Evangelising" on the streets.

That was the highlight of the week. Heading out into the streets to on purpose and with evil intent to immunize all we came across AGAINST Jesus by making him out to be both love and death all in one.

Sometimes someone would "Accept" Jesus but we knew they were only doing it because they were scared to death of this "Hell" we loved to preach so much. They were not truly saved. They said the prayer in fear. There was never any "Love" involved. Only fear and death.

Fear is what Satan uses and it is his greatest tool in destroying christianity and its reputation. The world now knows as a whole that God is Hell and so many cant accept that God they know as popularly preached is the very same thing my ex master represents. And so many more DO and are programmed against seeing it. The best LIE is the closest one to the truth.

Those who do serve God (with a few exceptions) only serve God because they "Know" what they will do to him if they don't. Had our "Doctrines" not been preached they would have had nothing to do with God at all. Because as you can see they are still just as evil if not MORE so than if they had never accepted Jesus.

Nothing changed on the inside except an INCREASE of evil. Self righteousness and elitism that has been tended so well, is far more insidious and evil than any other sin.

The infiltration of all the churches has been going on for a long long time.

You want to know who else is a satanist?

Benny Hinn.

Kenneth Copeland.

Jesse Duplantis.

Cresflo Dollar.

Billy Graham.

Joyce Myer.

IN fact all the major names you know today and many of the lesser known but influential ones ARE practicing satanists.

You CAN tell them by their fruits.

DO they preach HELL?

DO they preach fear?

DO they always go on and on about money?

DO they charge people thousands of dollars to attend their "Seminars"?

These are all the fruits of a very successful infiltrator.

They focus on fear, greed, self, and works.

All the trademarks of my ex master satan.

Jesus did indeed say "Know them by their fruits"

I don't need to give proof of what I am saying. Their fruits are everywhere. Just turn on any christian TV show or go to any major "Convention" or church and its all there for you to see.

For those who think I am not a christian and am just saying things let me state this.

JESUS IS LORD AND COME IN THE FLESH AND ROSE AGAIN ON THE THIRD DAY AND NOW SITS AT THE RIGHT HAND OF THE FATHER AND WILL RETURN AGAIN AND DEFEAT AND DESTROY SATAN AND ALL HIS WORKS AND WILL REIGN FOREVER AND EVER.

NO one who IS a satanist or NOT a christian who KNOWS Jesus personally could DARE make such a bold statement.

Christians who follow those teachings I just mentioned you have been TOTALLY DECIEVED.

The best thing you can do is never ever go to church and just meet with one another like they did in the early church.

The church and its "Doctrines" are all basically satanic now.

Keep attending church at your own peril.

That is all I am going to say.
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I've always thought Ice is of the devil.
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A few years ago I went to a church near me to try out...had not been to a church since high school

I am a christian and read the Bible frequently but never have found a good place


I went to this church to try it out....well,

I was so creeped out !

I felt like I was being stared at and watched the minute I entered and sat down...

No one was friendly and I was stared at constantly

I felt so "creeped" out and never went back

After this experience, I began to read more and learn about the

satan infiltration of churches

I can honestly say, I would not doubt this church I went to had been infiltrated....

Have not gone into a church since

I prefer to go in the mountains and worship the creator there

Why does one need a cold building anyway in order to thank the Lord

God created nature, so this seems more appropriate anyway

humans create the buildings


My choice is on a mountain
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To all of the so-called Christians from a Christian:

When you learn how to actually start to FEEL something for another human being other than dispensing your personal agenda and spewing out your demands and absurd church dogmas "I mean TODAY" or calling them "FOOLS" or other hateful and disrespectful barrages of verbal abuse THEN perhaps you might win some victory for the cause of Christ.

Is it no wonder why non-believers recoil in mockery and hastily retreat when unwillingly assaulted by you ill indoctrinated victims of your own bastions of faith (The churches)
You are zealots who attempt to convert by force and fear (words) rather than by example (Love)

At this point in your spiritual walk all you do is bring shame and dishonor to the God whom you claim to love so much!

I will keep you in my heart that you TRULY turn to Christ and become saved.

"By their fruits you shall know them" --Mt. 7:20

"But the fruit of the Spirit is love, joy, peace, longsuffering, kindness, goodness, faithfulness,gentleness, self-control. Against such there is no law." --Gal. 5:22-23

Most Christians display very little, if any, evidence of possessing these fruits!

"...Therefore every tree that does not produce good fruits is cut down and thrown into the fire." --Mt. 3:10b

"He who abides in Me and I in him bears much fruit..."
--Jn. 15:5

"If any branch does not abide in Me (produce the Fruits of the Spirit) he is cast out as a branch and is withered; and they gather them and throw them into the fire, and they are burned." --Jn. 15:6

Again, I say examine yourself as the truth of the matter is that you display very little, if any, evidence of possessing any of these fruits!

As a follower of Christ I would suggest that you start LIVING the truth instead of preaching about it.

Let you LIFE be your message, NOT your words.

You PROVE the measure of your love for God based upon the amount of unconditional love (not condemnation) you show to others.

ALL OTHERS !!!

Better to start emanating Christ rather than trying to imitate Him.

By their fruits you shall know them...not their talk, doctrine or denomination but by their WORKS they shall prove that they are Mine.
-- Matt. 7:20 -- Jas. 2:26

Divine Love shone towards others trumps ALL your silly debating about systematic theology and church doctrine!!!
-- Matt. 22:37-40 -- Matt. 25:31-46 -- 1 Cor. 13:1-7 --1Cor. 13:13

Time to grow up !!!
Let you life be your message!

Many more people will be drawn to your message by the way that you live and love them and others...NOT BY POUNDING YOUR "HELL" INTO THEM !!!!

START LIVING LIKE CHRIST BY SHOWING UNCONDITIONAL LOVE TOWARDS OTHERS NO MATTER WHO THEY ARE AND STOP YAPPING ABOUT YOUR SO-CALLED FAITH !!!

Quoting in red GLP member: Armageddon Thru To You

"The mockers and scoffers will get theirs. It will be eternal punishment despite the recent and increasing popularity to twist scripture into something else.

2Timothy 4:3 "For the time will come when men will not put up with sound doctrine. Instead, to suit their own desires, they will gather around them a great number of teachers to say what their itching ears want to hear."


True Love of God and others trumps "doctrine".

And even though sound doctrine is important ANYBODY who claims to have a complete ALL KNOWING, ALL UNDERSTANDING monopoly on ALL doctrine is a fool.

"Professing themselves to be wise, they became fools" Rom. 1:22

And anybody who can't wait, and actually looks forward with glee to see people writhe and burn eternally has no part in the Kingdom of God.

Even your on site ID "Armageddon Thru To You" is so telling of your evil and hateful self righteousness and disdain and hate for ALL others who do not submit to YOUR way of interpreting "doctrine".

Christ Himself explained that Love of God and others TRUMPS everything else as those two things alone fulfill ALL of the Law and doctrine. Mt.22:26-40

You are absolutely NO DIFFERENT than the Pharisees of Jesus' day and had you been a jewish as committed to the law as you are to your church doctrine rather than to the love of Christ and the unsaved you would have crucified Christ yourself with joyful pleasure!

GOD HELP YOU !!!

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Quoting in red GLP member: Armageddon Thru To You

Wake up.
Our job isn't to "love" people. Our job as CHRISTIANS is to share the Word of God so that people who hear about it can receive the good news of what Jesus Christ did and be saved by Him.

This IS the work of Love in the first place.

Keep relaxing the way you do and you will soon reap the consequence of being lukewarm.

Didn't Jesus Himself say He would spit you out of His mouth?

In Jesus Christ.
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OUR JOB ISN'T TO LOVE PEOPLE????

WHAT BIBLE ARE YOU READING???

I will keep you in my heart that you TRULY turn to Christ and become saved.

"By their fruits you shall know them" --Mt. 7:20

"But the fruit of the Spirit is love, joy, peace, longsuffering, kindness, goodness, faithfulness,gentleness, self-control. Against such there is no law." --Gal. 5:22-23

You display very little, if any, evidence of possessing these fruits!

It is NOT my Lord and Savior Jesus Christ who I disbelieve...but as the self-righteous Pharisees who thought that they too could do no wrong, and understood the law fully, as Christ did "correct" them so do I in all good conscience of the Holy Spirit attempt to speak sternly and with fortitude to you that as I do not know all things AND NEITHER DO YOU. And to smugly sit in your palace of arrogance and complacency believing that you are correct in ALL THINGS pertaining to The Word, Christ, God and His Holy Spirit so do I (as did Christ) warn you quite sternly to examine your place in the Body with all humility, love and patience towards others who believe differently than you do!

To you Christs teachings deal more with the strict and legalistic adherence to YOUR interpretation of proper doctrine, systematic theology, exegetical theology, eschatology and binding legalities of Scriptural interpretation.

To me Christs MAIN teachings deal with love!!!

Yes...Divine Love.
I DO believe that it's all about Love, and for that I make no apologizes.

"...You shall love the Lord your God with all your heart, with all your soul, and with all your mind. And the second is like it: you shall love your neighbor as yourself' On these two commandments hang all the Law and the Prophets" (emphasis mine)
--Mt. 22:37-40

"Beloved, let us love one another, for love is of God: and EVERYONE(emphasis mine) who loves is born of God and knows God.He who does not love does not know God, for God is love."
--1 John 4:7-8

"If someone says, 'I love God,' and hates his brother, he is a liar;..."
--1 John 4:20a

Regarding your so-called knowledge, interpretation and practice of Scripture according to the WORD that you claim to believe love STILL comes first...NOT DOCTRINE!

"And though I have the gift of prophecy, and I understand all mysteries and have all knowledge,(emphasis mine) and though I have all faith, so that I could remove mountains, but I have not love, it profits me nothing." (emphasis mine)
--1 Cor. 13:2

God judges the measure of our love for Him based upon how much love we show to others!

Paraphrased: "...Come, you blessed of My Father, inherit the kingdom prepared for you from the foundation of the world. for I was hungry and you fed Me; I was thirsty and you gave Me drink; I was naked and you clothed Me; I was sick and you visited Me; I was in prison and you came to Me."
-- Mt. 25:34-37

Paraphrased: "...Depart from Me, you cursed into the everlasting fire prepared for the devil and his angles:
for I was hungry and you fed Me no food; I was thirsty and you gave Me no drink; I was naked and you did not clothe Me; I was sick and you did not visit Me; I was in prison and you did not come to Me..." "And these shall go away into everlasting punishment, but the righteous (My note: Those who by their works, not their knowledge of doctrine, scripture and church attendance, showed love and compassion) into eternal life."
--Mt. 25:34-46

I'll state it once last time:
Yes...Divine Love.

I DO believe that it's all about Love, and for that I make no apologizes.

You stick with your emphasis on fighting and debating your unalterable, unquestioning, legalistic approach to scripture, doctrine and systematic theology.
And I'll stick to my "effeminate Christian" ideals of Christ’s love...and on that Day we'll see what we shall see!






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Good post. I have been given site to see. When I see the church worldly christians I am given vision. Instead of a face of flesh I see a skull, which is Gods way of telling me this person is dead and is reaping the second death. I try to help but they are too smug to even give me the time of day. I also see death in new agers and other religions. They are so damned and don't realize these consequences are eternal.
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Read the parable about the wheat and the tares. The Churches are full of tares AND wheat. You can detect a tare because he/she acts like his father, Satan.

What does Satan do ? Satan creates false religions and spends his time accusing the real Saints day and night in front of God. So most of the self righteous, condemning glory hounds are nothing but tares and you should avoid them.

Don't throw the baby out with the bath water, OK. Real Saints are the best people you will ever meet and you find them in Churches ...

Oh, and by the way Jesus knows what is going on. He coming back to a pure Bride and that is what the fourth seal of Revelation is all about ... (Hint)

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You say you believe

JESUS IS LORD AND COME IN THE FLESH AND ROSE AGAIN ON THE THIRD DAY AND NOW SITS AT THE RIGHT HAND OF THE FATHER AND WILL RETURN AGAIN AND DEFEAT AND DESTROY SATAN AND ALL HIS WORKS AND WILL REIGN FOREVER AND EVER.

Satan knows this too, doesn't mean he's following Jesus.
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Being an ex satanist I know exactly what evil is.

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judethcflo9 "Ex Satanist," somehow I have my doubts about that. As for fear, don't knock it. it has it's honorable place in the scheme of things.

Job 28:28 And unto man he said, Behold, the fear of the Lord, that [is] wisdom; and to depart from evil [is] understanding.

Psa 111:10 The fear of the LORD [is] the beginning of wisdom: a good understanding have all they that do [his commandments]: his praise endureth for ever.

Pro 1:7 The fear of the LORD [is] the beginning of knowledge: [but] fools despise wisdom and instruction.

Pro 9:10 The fear of the LORD [is] the beginning of wisdom: and the knowledge of the holy [is] understanding.

Pro 15:33 The fear of the LORD [is] the instruction of wisdom; and before honour [is] humility.

Isa 11:2 And the spirit of the LORD shall rest upon him, the spirit of wisdom and understanding, the spirit of counsel and might, the spirit of knowledge and of the fear of the LORD;

Isa 33:6 And wisdom and knowledge shall be the stability of thy times, [and] strength of salvation: the fear of the LORD [is] his treasure.
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A few years ago I went to a church near me to try out...had not been to a church since high school

I am a christian and read the Bible frequently but never have found a good place


I went to this church to try it out....well,

I was so creeped out !

I felt like I was being stared at and watched the minute I entered and sat down...

No one was friendly and I was stared at constantly

I felt so "creeped" out and never went back

After this experience, I began to read more and learn about the

satan infiltration of churches

I can honestly say, I would not doubt this church I went to had been infiltrated....

Have not gone into a church since

I prefer to go in the mountains and worship the creator there

Why does one need a cold building anyway in order to thank the Lord

God created nature, so this seems more appropriate anyway

humans create the buildings


My choice is on a mountain
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They don't Need an Indoor Church, Christ taught outside on hilltops and at beaches (+ everywhere else He went)
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In John 8:24 Jesus declared: “For if you should not believe that I am [ego eimi] you will perish in your sins”

get on board with eternal salvation, don't burn eternally.
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The greatest trick the devil ever pulled was convincing the world that he is god.
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first a question, was the God of the old testament the same as the God spoken of in the New testament. If so than the OP as a Satan worshiper was simply changing venues as Satanist and Christians both worship the same god. To follow are verses that attribute the same act recorded in different places in the bible to Satan and then in the second account to Jehovah.


"And SATAN stood up against Israel, and provokedDavid to number Israel." 1 Chronicles 21:1.

"And again the anger of JEHOVAH was kindled against Israel, andhe moved David against them to say, Go, number Israeland Judah." 2 Samuel 24:1

This not to mention the atrocities commited by Gods chosen people at his orders, the killing of men,women and children. And in some instances he ordered to spare the female virgins and either permitted raping them or the sale of them in slavery ie prostitution. Now thats what I call a kind and loving god. lol. To all those who value theirs souls leave the church, and christianity for they are the workers for Satan. Since the jewish and Islam worship the same god I would recommend it for them to. sk
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To those who do not believe that Satan infiltrates the church throughout this age, please study revelation and all scripture.

1)The serpent chases the woman with a flood - this is a torrent of false doctrine
2) sun being darkened means the truth of the gospel is obscured
3) And they had tails like unto scorpions, and there were stings in their tails: and their power was to hurt men five months - "the prophet that teacheth lies, he is the tail."

We are to share the good news of the Kingdom of God to the ends of the Earth for the same reason that Christ and His Apostles did - to REACH those who God intends to save, for THEY WILL respond to the gospel message. So knowing that, of course Satan has attacked in many ways
- inverting the entire message from Salvation to Hell
- removing creation and substituting evolution
- promoting fear as terror instead of God's wisdom and knowledge He gives us
- convincing people that the Bible is a "fable"
- priests and pastors who are not men of God
- preaching gospels that are different than the Bible

Paul said it best that the "man of lawlessness" will not arise unless their is a falling away first. But what is that "falling away"? A departure from the Truth.

Does Christ command us to shake the dust from our feet and move on when the gospel message is not received? Yes!
Does Christ teach us that there are those who will not accept the offer of salvation? Yes.
Does Christ tell us that He has been given a specific flock? Yes.
If we all could remember that God is raising sons and daughters for the Kingdom of Heaven in this Age, perhaps we Would focus on the mission at hand for Jesus tells us that those individuals will respond to the message of salvation.

"47“Once again, the kingdom of heaven is like a net that was let down into the lake and caught all kinds of fish. 48When it was full, the fishermen pulled it up on the shore. Then they sat down and collected the good fish in baskets, but threw the bad away. 49This is how it will be at the end of the age. The angels will come and separate the wicked from the righteous 50and throw them into the fiery furnace, where there will be weeping and gnashing of teeth."


Does Revelation tell us that a second death will be experienced by all those who are not found in the Book of Life? Yes. But we are not given any further clarification on what it is, only that it is eternal. Likewise, we dot know what the fiery furnace is

Our God is just, merciful and loving so therefore any outcome must be the same. He blinded those who are not to be of the firstfruits. Are we not to simply trust Our Father that His Entire Plan for this creation has a purpose? Of course! But the most difficult question to answer is "What happens to all those who reject the gospel message?" Only God knows how individuals will fare on the Day of Judgment. Such matters are no proper concern of ours. 'It is mine to avenge', says the Lord, 'I will repay'.  Yet we have every reason to believe that God will do what is right. Everyone has enough knowledge of God in order to seek after him but the general situation is that men do not, and their consciences condemn them.

Jesus said, “Do not be afraid of those [people] who kill the body but cannot kill the soul.  Rather, be afraid of the one [God] who can destroy both soul and body in hell” 

I think that should be our answer to those who ask the question. The sons and daughters that God is raising are humble, submit to His Authority and above all, love Him in truth and Spirit. Satan does a great job at his task of producing a generation that will choose his doctrines of humanism and self over the eternal life offered in this Universe. If only they could see that every popular doctrine that is brainwashed in our minds is only designed to produce defiance to an all powerful God.
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Being an ex satanist I know exactly what evil is.

I met the lord after 20 years as a satanist and it was not in a church. I am yet to meet God in a church. Satan is far more at home in churches today that he was in the covens I oversaw. With good reason.

We used to infiltrate churches all the time and my ex bretheren still do.

The fruits of our labours are what you see in how they treat people with a cold hard indifference and every word they speak is threats of fire and loads of fear.

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:9teen: Well first off I don't believe that you are an "ex Satanist" at all. Although i will say that you have a slick line of patter that sounds good to weak willed, backslidden 'Christians,' and general unbelievers.

Maybe most people don't like to hear it but Hell exists and most people will (I'm sorry to say) finish up there. In fact it says in the bible that Hell will have to be enlarged to take the huge numbers of people who will be going there.

And you stand there saying that people who warn about Hell are cold, hard and indifferent! You are contemptible.

As for the rest of you, if you would like to know more about this subject from a biblical point of view.

THIS WAS YOUR LIFE!... [link to www.chick.com]
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You are full of vengance over your mishaps in your life sister, you are not alone manny people like black magic.
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i dont go to church anymore, not after studying a bit of history about religions and seeing the SAME STORY with only the names changed, again and again and again.

so this little church near my house, the new pastor looks like an oily fat car salesman with the phony smile.
his song to start the evening services was OLD TYME RELIGION.
which is paganism, nature worship.
i had just finished telling my children about that very song that even i had to sing as a child in church.
and we get inside and the new pastor starts off with it.
just amazing
my kids and i just looked at each other and opened our eyes very large at each other...

it was some stupid christmas play they were putting on, cant remember how i got suckered into going that night, but it was a real trip.
whenever the people began to sing hymns i would sing my OWN songs, out loud.
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YHVH=Satan
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^^^THIS^^^
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I found this on the "Believe or go to hell" thread but was not sure how to use the "Quote" feature so I just copied it across. I thought it was so thought provoking having known a satanist or two in my days that it deserved its own thread.

I am not agreeing or disagreeing with what this person wrote but I have seen lots of evidence of what he says because I have been in several churches in my 25 years.
What he talks about I have seen when I look back in hundsight. Read it and judge for yourself.

It does explain some of the goings on I personally witnessed and also the people who I knew who were satanists did talk about doing this sort of thing.
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I am an ex satanist and I used to head some covens in %$&^%$#@ and I will be up front and honest when I say that I saw more love and compassion for their fellow man amongst the other satanists than I have seen displayed by most christians here at GLP or anywhere else.

Being an ex satanist I know exactly what evil is.

I met the lord after 20 years as a satanist and it was not in a church. I am yet to meet God in a church. Satan is far more at home in churches today that he was in the covens I oversaw. With good reason.

We used to infiltrate churches all the time and my ex bretheren still do.

The fruits of our labours are what you see in how they treat people with a cold hard indifference and every word they speak is threats of fire and loads of fear.

They are too blinded by self rightousness to see the pure evil that it is.

We loved to attend meetings and go down the front and say the "Sinners" prayer. It gained their trust. Some of us chosen for the task went to bible college and earned degrees so we could become pastors and teachers and deacons ect.

The goal was to gradually introduce the sort of elitism and hate disguised as love you see happenning every time you disagree with a christian or ask them any hard question.

They have been programmed to respond with spite, insults or cold indifference like Ice used to display when ridiculed about his "Rapture" stance during the Harold camping debacle.

The programming is intense and very well ingrained.

It works and keeps on working.

Every church both in Australia and in Americia, especially the pentecostal ones, have a pastor or at least a few counsellors and deacons who are practicing satanists.

The favourite position was pastor or teacher or home group leader. From there we could easily grow on gullible trusting minds the elite mindset and the sheer contempt for all others that you are experiencing.

The most cherrished doctrine and the one that gave us the biggest laugh was the hell doctrine. That was one of my ex masters all time greats and still is today. To think we made a loving God into a satanic monster just like the one WE worshipped and had the "Fools" swallowing it. And what was even more hilarious to me a the time was going out "Evangelising" on the streets.

That was the highlight of the week. Heading out into the streets to on purpose and with evil intent to immunize all we came across AGAINST Jesus by making him out to be both love and death all in one.

Sometimes someone would "Accept" Jesus but we knew they were only doing it because they were scared to death of this "Hell" we loved to preach so much. They were not truly saved. They said the prayer in fear. There was never any "Love" involved. Only fear and death.

Fear is what Satan uses and it is his greatest tool in destroying christianity and its reputation. The world now knows as a whole that God is Hell and so many cant accept that God they know as popularly preached is the very same thing my ex master represents. And so many more DO and are programmed against seeing it. The best LIE is the closest one to the truth.

Those who do serve God (with a few exceptions) only serve God because they "Know" what they will do to him if they don't. Had our "Doctrines" not been preached they would have had nothing to do with God at all. Because as you can see they are still just as evil if not MORE so than if they had never accepted Jesus.

Nothing changed on the inside except an INCREASE of evil. Self righteousness and elitism that has been tended so well, is far more insidious and evil than any other sin.

The infiltration of all the churches has been going on for a long long time.

You want to know who else is a satanist?

Benny Hinn.

Kenneth Copeland.

Jesse Duplantis.

Cresflo Dollar.

Billy Graham.

Joyce Myer.

IN fact all the major names you know today and many of the lesser known but influential ones ARE practicing satanists.

You CAN tell them by their fruits.

DO they preach HELL?

DO they preach fear?

DO they always go on and on about money?

DO they charge people thousands of dollars to attend their "Seminars"?

These are all the fruits of a very successful infiltrator.

They focus on fear, greed, self, and works.

All the trademarks of my ex master satan.

Jesus did indeed say "Know them by their fruits"

I don't need to give proof of what I am saying. Their fruits are everywhere. Just turn on any christian TV show or go to any major "Convention" or church and its all there for you to see.

For those who think I am not a christian and am just saying things let me state this.

JESUS IS LORD AND COME IN THE FLESH AND ROSE AGAIN ON THE THIRD DAY AND NOW SITS AT THE RIGHT HAND OF THE FATHER AND WILL RETURN AGAIN AND DEFEAT AND DESTROY SATAN AND ALL HIS WORKS AND WILL REIGN FOREVER AND EVER.

NO one who IS a satanist or NOT a christian who KNOWS Jesus personally could DARE make such a bold statement.

Christians who follow those teachings I just mentioned you have been TOTALLY DECIEVED.

The best thing you can do is never ever go to church and just meet with one another like they did in the early church.

The church and its "Doctrines" are all basically satanic now.

Keep attending church at your own peril.

That is all I am going to say.
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You said that Jesus is Lord,well according to bible even the
demons know that...i haven't heard you say He is YOUR Lord
Isaiah 44:22 I have swept away your offenses like a cloud, your sins like the morning mist. Return to me, for I have redeemed you."
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People need to understand there has to be a balanced approach. Showing unconditional love without any judgements on "behavior" to people who are spiraling off down a terrible path only enables and makes them worse. Understand the difference between nonjudgemental, supportive motherly love and a fathers critical tough love. We need both, to not inform someone there is a price to pay if they disregard God is not love.

There is a final judgement of souls by the Father, the Bible tells us not everyone is going to make it into his arms. The fastest way to outer darkness with his Holy Spirit removed from a soul is to believe they can do whatever they want and walk the widest path and still get to be with Him in eternity. Those who do not make it will have put themselves there. His judgement is based on whether or not you loved him enough to really try to live like Christ. This includes loving others enough to warn them there are paths in life that will not lead to Heaven.

This doesn't mean you have to harp on about hell and be happy to think of your enemies going there, again, balance.
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Wow, Jesus Christ and all of the Apostles taught on Hell...I wonder if they were all Satanic infiltrators?

Looks to me that you still haven't left the mind control and manipulation behind, in a sense, you are still serving Satan. Perhaps you'll find some gullable Christians to sell your story to, but I have been around the block a few times to believe this trype. Yes Satanists infiltrate churches, but Hell (the underworld) is an orthodox doctrine of the saints. Hell is a dimensional holding area for the spirits of the dead...the real threat is the Lake of Fire, where Jesus told was "weeping, wailing, and gnashing of teeth."
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Amen!!!
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Hell is NOT an orhodox doctrine.

Its only been taught in the churches since 500 ad.

The myths of the hellish undeworld can be traced back to egypt and greece abd babylon..those same myths were incorporated INTO the chuch by the catholics by constantine.

The words Ages of the ages were translated to men forever and ever by good old king james.

Eternal hell was NEVER taught in the early church.

I reccomend you do some UNBIASED study...or are you too afraid to let go of the terror and the doom?
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Jesus Christ taught on Hell. It is an orthodox doctrine. If there is no Hell, then there is no need for salvation nor redemption. I think you are either a deceiver, or are completely unfamiliar with the bible.
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Well I can believe that satanists have infiltrated the church in some way, but I find it ironic that you then go on to criticise the church - clearly many of the problems stem from the fact that satanists are having some influence in places?!

I heard that about Billy Graham recently from another source and agree some of the wild evangelical and spiritual churches, speaking in tongues and writhing round in public seems pretty freaky.

Other than that, yes, a personal relationship with Jesus Christ the saviour, God of Love, Prince of Peace, is what we should strive for first and foremost, for the strength to love each other and lead good lives. Holy Spirit guide us!

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The English word "tongues" was translated from the Greek word GLOSSA and it means to SPEAK IN OTHER LANGUAGES.

So if you are an english speaker, speaking in tongues mean that you will suddenly be able to speak German, or French, or whatever.....depending on the people present.

Today's version of tongues, is devilspeak.
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To those who do not believe that Satan infiltrates the church throughout this age, please study revelation and all scripture.

1)The serpent chases the woman with a flood - this is a torrent of false doctrine
2) sun being darkened means the truth of the gospel is obscured
3) And they had tails like unto scorpions, and there were stings in their tails: and their power was to hurt men five months - "the prophet that teacheth lies, he is the tail."

We are to share the good news of the Kingdom of God to the ends of the Earth for the same reason that Christ and His Apostles did - to REACH those who God intends to save, for THEY WILL respond to the gospel message. So knowing that, of course Satan has attacked in many ways
- inverting the entire message from Salvation to Hell
- removing creation and substituting evolution
- promoting fear as terror instead of God's wisdom and knowledge He gives us
- convincing people that the Bible is a "fable"
- priests and pastors who are not men of God
- preaching gospels that are different than the Bible

Paul said it best that the "man of lawlessness" will not arise unless their is a falling away first. But what is that "falling away"? A departure from the Truth.

Does Christ command us to shake the dust from our feet and move on when the gospel message is not received? Yes!
Does Christ teach us that there are those who will not accept the offer of salvation? Yes.
Does Christ tell us that He has been given a specific flock? Yes.
If we all could remember that God is raising sons and daughters for the Kingdom of Heaven in this Age, perhaps we Would focus on the mission at hand for Jesus tells us that those individuals will respond to the message of salvation.

"47“Once again, the kingdom of heaven is like a net that was let down into the lake and caught all kinds of fish. 48When it was full, the fishermen pulled it up on the shore. Then they sat down and collected the good fish in baskets, but threw the bad away. 49This is how it will be at the end of the age. The angels will come and separate the wicked from the righteous 50and throw them into the fiery furnace, where there will be weeping and gnashing of teeth."


Does Revelation tell us that a second death will be experienced by all those who are not found in the Book of Life? Yes. But we are not given any further clarification on what it is, only that it is eternal. Likewise, we dot know what the fiery furnace is

Our God is just, merciful and loving so therefore any outcome must be the same. He blinded those who are not to be of the firstfruits. Are we not to simply trust Our Father that His Entire Plan for this creation has a purpose? Of course! But the most difficult question to answer is "What happens to all those who reject the gospel message?" Only God knows how individuals will fare on the Day of Judgment. Such matters are no proper concern of ours. 'It is mine to avenge', says the Lord, 'I will repay'.  Yet we have every reason to believe that God will do what is right. Everyone has enough knowledge of God in order to seek after him but the general situation is that men do not, and their consciences condemn them.

Jesus said, “Do not be afraid of those [people] who kill the body but cannot kill the soul.  Rather, be afraid of the one [God] who can destroy both soul and body in hell” 

I think that should be our answer to those who ask the question. The sons and daughters that God is raising are humble, submit to His Authority and above all, love Him in truth and Spirit. Satan does a great job at his task of producing a generation that will choose his doctrines of humanism and self over the eternal life offered in this Universe. If only they could see that every popular doctrine that is brainwashed in our minds is only designed to produce defiance to an all powerful God.
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Preach the word brother.
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The greatest trick the devil ever pulled was convincing the world that he is god.
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so true!!

In some cases the government uses their elaborate techno programs to program the folks further to keep people herded into a dead end program.

I have seen a few on this board programmed by government technology to believe they are the chosen ones. Trying to convince the world that they are chosen leaders. This is a clever trick to convince people that theya are special and "thee" ones in power.

There is government technology to create mind stuff so they see and experience specific things to uphold the program. If you accept or believe them you too can get caught up in the same program they teach and "see" and can also see and believe the same things that the specific leader you accept is teaching.
These leader types are always chosen because of their big, no, their huge ego, and a marked intellegence combined with a lack of formal education plus an ability to obey instructions and have an amount of charisma of personality necessary to convince people they are correct. The ideal programmable leader candidate also wants to achieve glory, either for themselves or the one they worship, or the idea they worship. They have always been set up and groomed early on by severe trauma which weakened them and made them suseptible to such programs. They also have a deep desire to control their environment and feel helpless, making them good candidates to be leaders.

Why are certain people hit with these programs to be religious leaders in their own minds ?

The answer is to attempt to lead away people into false distractions so the government will be able to hoodwink them while they are preoccupied. Also because they are good candidates to such a program of distraction and error.
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Wow, Jesus Christ and all of the Apostles taught on Hell...I wonder if they were all Satanic infiltrators?

Looks to me that you still haven't left the mind control and manipulation behind, in a sense, you are still serving Satan. Perhaps you'll find some gullable Christians to sell your story to, but I have been around the block a few times to believe this trype. Yes Satanists infiltrate churches, but Hell (the underworld) is an orthodox doctrine of the saints. Hell is a dimensional holding area for the spirits of the dead...the real threat is the Lake of Fire, where Jesus told was "weeping, wailing, and gnashing of teeth."
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Amen!!!
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Hell is NOT an orhodox doctrine.

Its only been taught in the churches since 500 ad.

The myths of the hellish undeworld can be traced back to egypt and greece abd babylon..those same myths were incorporated INTO the chuch by the catholics by constantine.

The words Ages of the ages were translated to men forever and ever by good old king james.

Eternal hell was NEVER taught in the early church.

I reccomend you do some UNBIASED study...or are you too afraid to let go of the terror and the doom?
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Hell is an interesting concept. These christians have little to no understanding of it's actual origin as they are programmed to believe and not question and that's as far as thejr program can take them due to fear of disobedience and losing favor.

Yes, it was originally taught in egypt. No record of it mentioned in early Hinduism on par with the Egypt era from what I can find.

It was mentioned in the dead sea scrolls, which oldest carbon dating has been dated to around 400BCE to 130CE. This would have been largely adapted by the egyptian earlier beliefs. This indicates the dead sea scroll clearly shows the early Jewish communities believed hell as a physical place of ever lasting torment and paradise as the opposite. The dead sea scroll also has a concept of devil and angels who would appear in the here after with satan and his followers sent to destruction in torment. So this notion that hell fire was something invented by Christianity or later generations of jewish people is rather incorrect but the opposite could be true.

It would make sense that the early jewish people got their Hellish ideas, (pun intended) from Egypt and incorporated similarities to develop their own religious beliefs. This type of belief adaptation is an old religious technique. It's also interesting to note that Rome used the same time-tested adaptation technique to establish the Roman Church, which bible it managed to conveniently put together with a mish-mash of all kinds of ideas grafted in it. The current christian non-catholics think they are believing something different and separate from the catholics, but really it's all the same root stuff, from the same pot of stew.

It's interesting to note that the Etruscans didn't have a concept of hell until AFTER Rome compiled what is now known as the canonized bible. Archaeological digs show that early Etruscan tombs had serene deptictions and then suddenly an inclusion of devilish hellish types of depictions sprung up. I postulate that this marked the acceptance of Romans biblical teachings to the Etruscan population of that time. I'm not entirely sure if archaeologists have recognized this factor as a possibility for the sudden shift in Etruscan tomb depictions leading toward hellish depictions.

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