EX satanist spills the beans on the christian church infiltration and the truth behind why most christians are so cold and heartless.

Yes that is truly disturbing.

I saw the same thing take place 20 years ago at a rahj Neeshe convention in NSW.

It was no different that what the churches do. The same babling in tongues and the same rolling around on the floor and the same joy and ecstacy and even prophecies and words of knowledge and stuff. JUST like the churches.

The only difference was they all wore orange and worshipped an old perverted guru and had lots of sex with eachother.

The only other difference was there were no bibles.

But everything else was the same. The collection of money to be blessed and the chanting and endlessly singing songs.

It was exactly the same as a pentecostal meeting without the bibles really.

Same atmosphere and presence as well.

The pentecostal movement is evil.

Saw a cult like that at Nimbin.

I found this on the "Believe or go to hell" thread but was not sure how to use the "Quote" feature so I just copied it across. I thought it was so thought provoking having known a satanist or two in my days that it deserved its own thread.

I am not agreeing or disagreeing with what this person wrote but I have seen lots of evidence of what he says because I have been in several churches in my 25 years.
What he talks about I have seen when I look back in hundsight. Read it and judge for yourself.

It does explain some of the goings on I personally witnessed and also the people who I knew who were satanists did talk about doing this sort of thing.
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I am an ex satanist and I used to head some covens in %$&^%$#@ and I will be up front and honest when I say that I saw more love and compassion for their fellow man amongst the other satanists than I have seen displayed by most christians here at GLP or anywhere else.

Being an ex satanist I know exactly what evil is.

I met the lord after 20 years as a satanist and it was not in a church. I am yet to meet God in a church. Satan is far more at home in churches today that he was in the covens I oversaw. With good reason.

We used to infiltrate churches all the time and my ex bretheren still do.

The fruits of our labours are what you see in how they treat people with a cold hard indifference and every word they speak is threats of fire and loads of fear.

They are too blinded by self rightousness to see the pure evil that it is.

We loved to attend meetings and go down the front and say the "Sinners" prayer. It gained their trust. Some of us chosen for the task went to bible college and earned degrees so we could become pastors and teachers and deacons ect.

The goal was to gradually introduce the sort of elitism and hate disguised as love you see happenning every time you disagree with a christian or ask them any hard question.

They have been programmed to respond with spite, insults or cold indifference like Ice used to display when ridiculed about his "Rapture" stance during the Harold camping debacle.

The programming is intense and very well ingrained.

It works and keeps on working.

Every church both in Australia and in Americia, especially the pentecostal ones, have a pastor or at least a few counsellors and deacons who are practicing satanists.

The favourite position was pastor or teacher or home group leader. From there we could easily grow on gullible trusting minds the elite mindset and the sheer contempt for all others that you are experiencing.

The most cherrished doctrine and the one that gave us the biggest laugh was the hell doctrine. That was one of my ex masters all time greats and still is today. To think we made a loving God into a satanic monster just like the one WE worshipped and had the "Fools" swallowing it. And what was even more hilarious to me a the time was going out "Evangelising" on the streets.

That was the highlight of the week. Heading out into the streets to on purpose and with evil intent to immunize all we came across AGAINST Jesus by making him out to be both love and death all in one.

Sometimes someone would "Accept" Jesus but we knew they were only doing it because they were scared to death of this "Hell" we loved to preach so much. They were not truly saved. They said the prayer in fear. There was never any "Love" involved. Only fear and death.

Fear is what Satan uses and it is his greatest tool in destroying christianity and its reputation. The world now knows as a whole that God is Hell and so many cant accept that God they know as popularly preached is the very same thing my ex master represents. And so many more DO and are programmed against seeing it. The best LIE is the closest one to the truth.

Those who do serve God (with a few exceptions) only serve God because they "Know" what they will do to him if they don't. Had our "Doctrines" not been preached they would have had nothing to do with God at all. Because as you can see they are still just as evil if not MORE so than if they had never accepted Jesus.

Nothing changed on the inside except an INCREASE of evil. Self righteousness and elitism that has been tended so well, is far more insidious and evil than any other sin.

The infiltration of all the churches has been going on for a long long time.

You want to know who else is a satanist?

Benny Hinn.

Kenneth Copeland.

Jesse Duplantis.

Cresflo Dollar.

Billy Graham.

Joyce Myer.

IN fact all the major names you know today and many of the lesser known but influential ones ARE practicing satanists.

You CAN tell them by their fruits.

DO they preach HELL?

DO they preach fear?

DO they always go on and on about money?

DO they charge people thousands of dollars to attend their "Seminars"?

These are all the fruits of a very successful infiltrator.

They focus on fear, greed, self, and works.

All the trademarks of my ex master satan.

Jesus did indeed say "Know them by their fruits"

I don't need to give proof of what I am saying. Their fruits are everywhere. Just turn on any christian TV show or go to any major "Convention" or church and its all there for you to see.

For those who think I am not a christian and am just saying things let me state this.

JESUS IS LORD AND COME IN THE FLESH AND ROSE AGAIN ON THE THIRD DAY AND NOW SITS AT THE RIGHT HAND OF THE FATHER AND WILL RETURN AGAIN AND DEFEAT AND DESTROY SATAN AND ALL HIS WORKS AND WILL REIGN FOREVER AND EVER.

NO one who IS a satanist or NOT a christian who KNOWS Jesus personally could DARE make such a bold statement.

Christians who follow those teachings I just mentioned you have been TOTALLY DECIEVED.

The best thing you can do is never ever go to church and just meet with one another like they did in the early church.

The church and its "Doctrines" are all basically satanic now.

Keep attending church at your own peril.

That is all I am going to say.

Sometimes someone would "Accept" Jesus but we knew they were only doing it because they were scared to death of this "Hell" we loved to preach so much. They were not truly saved. They said the prayer in fear. There was never any "Love" involved. Only fear and death.


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The Potters House...as a teen, looking for direction, I ended up there. This paragraph above, described EXACTLY what I experienced there. All they ever talked about was Hell, the devil, bringing in as many people as we can, because the end was near, and money...give-give-give. I told the minister, that I did not feel good coming there, that something felt "off". He told me, that was satan, and satan was inside of me, making me feel negative towards this church and their teachings. They spooked me so much, I had terrible stomach aches, before and after going there. When I shared this with the minister, he told me that the devil was sitting on my stomach at night, in my bed, and doing all he could to prevent me from going to this church.

Bottom line, I stopped going. I had never been so frightened of "religion". I had a awakening, that there was something very evil to christianity. Most folk I've met, that profess they abide to the bible and religion, are some of the most judgemental and mean spirited people, ever. I can only think of one man that was a true Christian and who was kind and didn't lead with fear and contempt for non-believers.

I've yet to step into a church since. I would not doubt that there is some truth to this original post(pg 1).

There is a clear difference in Teaching about a Loving God who accepts you with open arms changing your Heart Mind and Body for the Better.

And the teaching of a God who is Vengefully Cruel and wants to Burn you forever because you made a Mistake.

Luckily The Bible Teaches About a Lake of fire: They are just dead forever Not dieing forever.
After the Lake of Fire Heaven and Earth combine Forever!

So In the Beginning:
perfect Earth...
sinful earth..
earths destruction.
a lake of fire..
Heaven...

Please Notice The lake of fire and Heaven are not next to each other, they are cycles with ends, except for the last one.

To all of the so-called Christians from a Christian:

When you learn how to actually start to FEEL something for another human being other than dispensing your personal agenda and spewing out your demands and absurd church dogmas "I mean TODAY" or calling them "FOOLS" or other hateful and disrespectful barrages of verbal abuse THEN perhaps you might win some victory for the cause of Christ.

Is it no wonder why non-believers recoil in mockery and hastily retreat when unwillingly assaulted by you ill indoctrinated victims of your own bastions of faith (The churches)
You are zealots who attempt to convert by force and fear (words) rather than by example (Love)

At this point in your spiritual walk all you do is bring shame and dishonor to the God whom you claim to love so much!

I will keep you in my heart that you TRULY turn to Christ and become saved.

"By their fruits you shall know them" --Mt. 7:20

"But the fruit of the Spirit is love, joy, peace, longsuffering, kindness, goodness, faithfulness,gentleness, self-control. Against such there is no law." --Gal. 5:22-23

Most Christians display very little, if any, evidence of possessing these fruits!

"...Therefore every tree that does not produce good fruits is cut down and thrown into the fire." --Mt. 3:10b

"He who abides in Me and I in him bears much fruit..."
--Jn. 15:5

"If any branch does not abide in Me (produce the Fruits of the Spirit) he is cast out as a branch and is withered; and they gather them and throw them into the fire, and they are burned." --Jn. 15:6

Again, I say examine yourself as the truth of the matter is that you display very little, if any, evidence of possessing any of these fruits!

As a follower of Christ I would suggest that you start LIVING the truth instead of preaching about it.

Let you LIFE be your message, NOT your words.

You PROVE the measure of your love for God based upon the amount of unconditional love (not condemnation) you show to others.

ALL OTHERS !!!

Better to start emanating Christ rather than trying to imitate Him.

By their fruits you shall know them...not their talk, doctrine or denomination but by their WORKS they shall prove that they are Mine.
-- Matt. 7:20 -- Jas. 2:26

Divine Love shone towards others trumps ALL your silly debating about systematic theology and church doctrine!!!
-- Matt. 22:37-40 -- Matt. 25:31-46 -- 1 Cor. 13:1-7 --1Cor. 13:13

Time to grow up !!!
Let you life be your message!

Many more people will be drawn to your message by the way that you live and love them and others...NOT BY POUNDING YOUR "HELL" INTO THEM !!!!

START LIVING LIKE CHRIST BY SHOWING UNCONDITIONAL LOVE TOWARDS OTHERS NO MATTER WHO THEY ARE AND STOP YAPPING ABOUT YOUR SO-CALLED FAITH !!!

Quoting in red GLP member: Armageddon Thru To You

"The mockers and scoffers will get theirs. It will be eternal punishment despite the recent and increasing popularity to twist scripture into something else.

2Timothy 4:3 "For the time will come when men will not put up with sound doctrine. Instead, to suit their own desires, they will gather around them a great number of teachers to say what their itching ears want to hear."

True Love of God and others trumps "doctrine".

And even though sound doctrine is important ANYBODY who claims to have a complete ALL KNOWING, ALL UNDERSTANDING monopoly on ALL doctrine is a fool.

"Professing themselves to be wise, they became fools" Rom. 1:22

And anybody who can't wait, and actually looks forward with glee to see people writhe and burn eternally has no part in the Kingdom of God.

Even your on site ID "Armageddon Thru To You" is so telling of your evil and hateful self righteousness and disdain and hate for ALL others who do not submit to YOUR way of interpreting "doctrine".

Christ Himself explained that Love of God and others TRUMPS everything else as those two things alone fulfill ALL of the Law and doctrine. Mt.22:26-40

You are absolutely NO DIFFERENT than the Pharisees of Jesus' day and had you been a jewish as committed to the law as you are to your church doctrine rather than to the love of Christ and the unsaved you would have crucified Christ yourself with joyful pleasure!

GOD HELP YOU !!!

...

Quoting in red GLP member: Armageddon Thru To You

Wake up.
Our job isn't to "love" people. Our job as CHRISTIANS is to share the Word of God so that people who hear about it can receive the good news of what Jesus Christ did and be saved by Him.

This IS the work of Love in the first place.

Keep relaxing the way you do and you will soon reap the consequence of being lukewarm.

Didn't Jesus Himself say He would spit you out of His mouth?

In Jesus Christ.
Quoting: Anonymous Coward 720033


OUR JOB ISN'T TO LOVE PEOPLE????

WHAT BIBLE ARE YOU READING???

I will keep you in my heart that you TRULY turn to Christ and become saved.

"By their fruits you shall know them" --Mt. 7:20

"But the fruit of the Spirit is love, joy, peace, longsuffering, kindness, goodness, faithfulness,gentleness, self-control. Against such there is no law." --Gal. 5:22-23

You display very little, if any, evidence of possessing these fruits!

It is NOT my Lord and Savior Jesus Christ who I disbelieve...but as the self-righteous Pharisees who thought that they too could do no wrong, and understood the law fully, as Christ did "correct" them so do I in all good conscience of the Holy Spirit attempt to speak sternly and with fortitude to you that as I do not know all things AND NEITHER DO YOU. And to smugly sit in your palace of arrogance and complacency believing that you are correct in ALL THINGS pertaining to The Word, Christ, God and His Holy Spirit so do I (as did Christ) warn you quite sternly to examine your place in the Body with all humility, love and patience towards others who believe differently than you do!

To you Christs teachings deal more with the strict and legalistic adherence to YOUR interpretation of proper doctrine, systematic theology, exegetical theology, eschatology and binding legalities of Scriptural interpretation.

To me Christs MAIN teachings deal with love!!!

Yes...Divine Love.
I DO believe that it's all about Love, and for that I make no apologizes.

"...You shall love the Lord your God with all your heart, with all your soul, and with all your mind. And the second is like it: you shall love your neighbor as yourself' On these two commandments hang all the Law and the Prophets" (emphasis mine)
--Mt. 22:37-40

"Beloved, let us love one another, for love is of God: and EVERYONE(emphasis mine) who loves is born of God and knows God.He who does not love does not know God, for God is love."
--1 John 4:7-8

"If someone says, 'I love God,' and hates his brother, he is a liar;..."
--1 John 4:20a

Regarding your so-called knowledge, interpretation and practice of Scripture according to the WORD that you claim to believe love STILL comes first...NOT DOCTRINE!

"And though I have the gift of prophecy, and I understand all mysteries and have all knowledge,(emphasis mine) and though I have all faith, so that I could remove mountains, but I have not love, it profits me nothing." (emphasis mine)
--1 Cor. 13:2

God judges the measure of our love for Him based upon how much love we show to others!

Paraphrased: "...Come, you blessed of My Father, inherit the kingdom prepared for you from the foundation of the world. for I was hungry and you fed Me; I was thirsty and you gave Me drink; I was naked and you clothed Me; I was sick and you visited Me; I was in prison and you came to Me."
-- Mt. 25:34-37

Paraphrased: "...Depart from Me, you cursed into the everlasting fire prepared for the devil and his angles:
for I was hungry and you fed Me no food; I was thirsty and you gave Me no drink; I was naked and you did not clothe Me; I was sick and you did not visit Me; I was in prison and you did not come to Me..." "And these shall go away into everlasting punishment, but the righteous (My note: Those who by their works, not their knowledge of doctrine, scripture and church attendance, showed love and compassion) into eternal life."
--Mt. 25:34-46

I'll state it once last time:
Yes...Divine Love.

I DO believe that it's all about Love, and for that I make no apologizes.

You stick with your emphasis on fighting and debating your unalterable, unquestioning, legalistic approach to scripture, doctrine and systematic theology.
And I'll stick to my "effeminate Christian" ideals of Christ’s love...and on that Day we'll see what we shall see!






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Hail Satin!

I found this on the "Believe or go to hell" thread but was not sure how to use the "Quote" feature so I just copied it across. I thought it was so thought provoking having known a satanist or two in my days that it deserved its own thread.

I am not agreeing or disagreeing with what this person wrote but I have seen lots of evidence of what he says because I have been in several churches in my 25 years.
What he talks about I have seen when I look back in hundsight. Read it and judge for yourself.

It does explain some of the goings on I personally witnessed and also the people who I knew who were satanists did talk about doing this sort of thing.
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I am an ex satanist and I used to head some covens in %$&^%$#@ and I will be up front and honest when I say that I saw more love and compassion for their fellow man amongst the other satanists than I have seen displayed by most christians here at GLP or anywhere else.

Being an ex satanist I know exactly what evil is.

I met the lord after 20 years as a satanist and it was not in a church. I am yet to meet God in a church. Satan is far more at home in churches today that he was in the covens I oversaw. With good reason.

We used to infiltrate churches all the time and my ex bretheren still do.

The fruits of our labours are what you see in how they treat people with a cold hard indifference and every word they speak is threats of fire and loads of fear.

They are too blinded by self rightousness to see the pure evil that it is.

We loved to attend meetings and go down the front and say the "Sinners" prayer. It gained their trust. Some of us chosen for the task went to bible college and earned degrees so we could become pastors and teachers and deacons ect.

The goal was to gradually introduce the sort of elitism and hate disguised as love you see happenning every time you disagree with a christian or ask them any hard question.

They have been programmed to respond with spite, insults or cold indifference like Ice used to display when ridiculed about his "Rapture" stance during the Harold camping debacle.

The programming is intense and very well ingrained.

It works and keeps on working.

Every church both in Australia and in Americia, especially the pentecostal ones, have a pastor or at least a few counsellors and deacons who are practicing satanists.

The favourite position was pastor or teacher or home group leader. From there we could easily grow on gullible trusting minds the elite mindset and the sheer contempt for all others that you are experiencing.

The most cherrished doctrine and the one that gave us the biggest laugh was the hell doctrine. That was one of my ex masters all time greats and still is today. To think we made a loving God into a satanic monster just like the one WE worshipped and had the "Fools" swallowing it. And what was even more hilarious to me a the time was going out "Evangelising" on the streets.

That was the highlight of the week. Heading out into the streets to on purpose and with evil intent to immunize all we came across AGAINST Jesus by making him out to be both love and death all in one.

Sometimes someone would "Accept" Jesus but we knew they were only doing it because they were scared to death of this "Hell" we loved to preach so much. They were not truly saved. They said the prayer in fear. There was never any "Love" involved. Only fear and death.

Fear is what Satan uses and it is his greatest tool in destroying christianity and its reputation. The world now knows as a whole that God is Hell and so many cant accept that God they know as popularly preached is the very same thing my ex master represents. And so many more DO and are programmed against seeing it. The best LIE is the closest one to the truth.

Those who do serve God (with a few exceptions) only serve God because they "Know" what they will do to him if they don't. Had our "Doctrines" not been preached they would have had nothing to do with God at all. Because as you can see they are still just as evil if not MORE so than if they had never accepted Jesus.

Nothing changed on the inside except an INCREASE of evil. Self righteousness and elitism that has been tended so well, is far more insidious and evil than any other sin.

The infiltration of all the churches has been going on for a long long time.

You want to know who else is a satanist?

Benny Hinn.

Kenneth Copeland.

Jesse Duplantis.

Cresflo Dollar.

Billy Graham.

Joyce Myer.

IN fact all the major names you know today and many of the lesser known but influential ones ARE practicing satanists.

You CAN tell them by their fruits.

DO they preach HELL?

DO they preach fear?

DO they always go on and on about money?

DO they charge people thousands of dollars to attend their "Seminars"?

These are all the fruits of a very successful infiltrator.

They focus on fear, greed, self, and works.

All the trademarks of my ex master satan.

Jesus did indeed say "Know them by their fruits"

I don't need to give proof of what I am saying. Their fruits are everywhere. Just turn on any christian TV show or go to any major "Convention" or church and its all there for you to see.

For those who think I am not a christian and am just saying things let me state this.

JESUS IS LORD AND COME IN THE FLESH AND ROSE AGAIN ON THE THIRD DAY AND NOW SITS AT THE RIGHT HAND OF THE FATHER AND WILL RETURN AGAIN AND DEFEAT AND DESTROY SATAN AND ALL HIS WORKS AND WILL REIGN FOREVER AND EVER.

NO one who IS a satanist or NOT a christian who KNOWS Jesus personally could DARE make such a bold statement.

Christians who follow those teachings I just mentioned you have been TOTALLY DECIEVED.

The best thing you can do is never ever go to church and just meet with one another like they did in the early church.

The church and its "Doctrines" are all basically satanic now.

Keep attending church at your own peril.

That is all I am going to say.

Yes that is truly disturbing.

I saw the same thing take place 20 years ago at a rahj Neeshe convention in NSW.

It was no different that what the churches do. The same babling in tongues and the same rolling around on the floor and the same joy and ecstacy and even prophecies and words of knowledge and stuff. JUST like the churches.

The only difference was they all wore orange and worshipped an old perverted guru and had lots of sex with eachother.

The only other difference was there were no bibles.

But everything else was the same. The collection of money to be blessed and the chanting and endlessly singing songs.

It was exactly the same as a pentecostal meeting without the bibles really.

Same atmosphere and presence as well.

The pentecostal movement is evil.

:9teen: Well first off I don't believe that you are an "ex Satanist" at all. Although i will say that you have a slick line of patter that sounds good to weak willed, backslidden 'Christians,' and general unbelievers.

Maybe most people don't like to hear it but Hell exists and most people will (I'm sorry to say) finish up there. In fact it says in the bible that Hell will have to be enlarged to take the huge numbers of people who will be going there.

And you stand there saying that people who warn about Hell are cold, hard and indifferent! You are contemptible.

As for the rest of you, if you would like to know more about this subject from a biblical point of view.

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