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Shouldn't We Apply Market Forces to Govt's Instead of Gov't Forces to Markets?

 
fellowearthling
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Shouldn't We Apply Market Forces to Govt's Instead of Gov't Forces to Markets?
Imagine, instead of voting at a polling booth,
you got a bill based on your 'system useage'.

If you pay the bill, you get to tick up some
more 'service' ~ if you don't pay ~ then you
may not receive the services depending on how
generous everyone's 'tipped' the service
providers recently?

I know, it's far too simple, isn't it?

OK, here's another scenario.

You're reasonably well off DI2K's, kids are at
a private school, everyone's got A1 private
medical cover, there's a private security
company monitoring your house alarm, boat etc.
and yet do you get a tax rebate/refund for
not "being a burden"...?

Yeah, right!

More like the harder you work, the more you
produce, the more profit you make the more
you get sideways by your 'protectors'! You'd
better behave yourself too and ensure all that
bookkeeping's accountable for or else...

cop

Here we are watching all our great 'leaders'
congradulating themselves for making FTA's with
(insert other nation here) when why the heck are
they penalizing and prohibiting our free trading
in the first place? Oh, that's right... mustn't
let international market forces apply!

We seem to be experiencing the backlash of
not having allowed for these naturally
occuring IMF's to freely flow earlier...

It's funny, we pay to have us and our
'freedoms' protected by that which then
'dictates' how much we pay it, with no
requirement for it to open it's books
and point out all of your useage of it's
services.

rant

I truely do wonder how it would work out
if it was all allowed to flow, unimpeded?

Which would be the more 'sustainable'?

scratching

I bet Angels aren't 'taxed' for their
'contributions'! Thine Will Be Done...

5a

Something to look forward to in the
not too distant future...

popcorn

Last Edited by fellowearthling on 11/06/2011 01:58 AM
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your voice is unable to wound and
your feet are cleansed in the blood
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fellowearthling (OP)

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11/06/2011 01:59 AM
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Re: Shouldn't We Apply Market Forces to Govt's Instead of Gov't Forces to Markets?
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"When your eyes are incapable of tears,
your ears lose their sensitivity,
your voice is unable to wound and
your feet are cleansed in the blood
of your heart, then you may stand
in the presence of your master."

Loosely translated from:
"Light on the Path"
Shingen

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11/06/2011 02:07 AM

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Re: Shouldn't We Apply Market Forces to Govt's Instead of Gov't Forces to Markets?
The purpose of markets is to facilitate a voluntary exchange by two or more individuals.

The purpose of government is to make and enforce laws.

The only way to enforce laws is through coercion and violence.

Without coercion and violence, governments disintegrate.

Markets and governments are mutually exclusive.
"Anarchism is not a romantic fable but the hardheaded realization, based of five thousand years of experience, that we cannot entrust the management of our lives to kings, priests, politicians, generals, or county commissioners." - Edward Abbey

"But whether the Constitution really be one thing, or another, this much is certain - that it has either authorized such a government as we have had, or has been powerless to prevent it. In either case, it is unfit to exist." -Lysander Spooner

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11/06/2011 02:31 AM
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Re: Shouldn't We Apply Market Forces to Govt's Instead of Gov't Forces to Markets?
The purpose of markets is to facilitate a voluntary exchange by two or more individuals.

The purpose of government is to make and enforce laws.

The only way to enforce laws is through coercion and violence.

Without coercion and violence, governments disintegrate.

Markets and governments are mutually exclusive.
 Quoting: Shingen


That's under the current model.

I believe governments should really
be there to create as level a playing
field as possible to facilitate the
various voluntary exchanges...

Perhaps the current model's due for
disintegration soon...?
"When your eyes are incapable of tears,
your ears lose their sensitivity,
your voice is unable to wound and
your feet are cleansed in the blood
of your heart, then you may stand
in the presence of your master."

Loosely translated from:
"Light on the Path"
Shingen

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11/06/2011 09:52 AM

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Re: Shouldn't We Apply Market Forces to Govt's Instead of Gov't Forces to Markets?
That's under the current model.

I believe governments should really
be there to create as level a playing
field as possible to facilitate the
various voluntary exchanges...
 Quoting: fellowearthling


The government is the reason for the monopolistic field now. Thanks to excessive licensing fees, compliance restrictions, and other regulations, it's pretty freaking hard for the average individual to enter the market as a business owner.

Governments are not needed to create a level field, they are required to keep them monopolistic.

Perhaps the current model's due for
disintegration soon...?
 Quoting: fellowearthling


It's a mathematical certainty, the only question is; will the cycle continue, or will people finally get tired of being ruled by other people and abolish the State?

Last Edited by Shingen on 11/06/2011 09:52 AM
"Anarchism is not a romantic fable but the hardheaded realization, based of five thousand years of experience, that we cannot entrust the management of our lives to kings, priests, politicians, generals, or county commissioners." - Edward Abbey

"But whether the Constitution really be one thing, or another, this much is certain - that it has either authorized such a government as we have had, or has been powerless to prevent it. In either case, it is unfit to exist." -Lysander Spooner

"If they take the ship, they'll rape us to death, eat our flesh, and sew our skin into their clothing, and if we're very very lucky, they'll do it in that order." - Firefly

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