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Does the occult use ritual magick to manipulate reality?

 
John Goz
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I got thinking the other day about how the secret has been used by many. That all thoughts travel in collective circles. The more the power of the circle, the more the power of manifestation, the more the ability to jump timelines. That perhaps rituals by covens which are circles are ways in which the collective thoughts are manipulated. Spells for example are powered by beliefs. That some know we already live in the multiverse, the eternal now and they shift about the more the knowledge of how grows. That perhaps many of us are so preconditioned to a reality that is not real that we have no idea of our own being.

I had a dream and saw the eagle break the circle.

I thought of how Abraham was supposed to sacrifice is son. How supposedly in occult they make this sacrifice for power. Now does this idea go all the way back to our collective roots and Abraham?

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Fascinating. In part, I feel as if on some level, albeit one we may not be currently consciously aware of on this side of the veil, we have opted to subject ourselves to such a degree of manipulation and to allowing other aspects of creation to govern the illusion we know of as external reality.

I'm excited by your sharing in that indeed it is true that numbers of individuals of the collective that hold a similar vibration and similar beliefs can indefinitely shift into parallel realities/Earths and that perhaps it is true that by a certain point in our near time the scales will be tipped positively rather than the continuation of them being tipped negatively. In some ways I can feel this as occurring here and now. Truly an exciting time to be alive! :)

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Prayer circles are the same thing.
Ritual circles are empowered by others collective beliefs.
Same as voodoo, believe in it and it manifests.

To bad we are using these powers for selfish purpose.
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Didn't think about it but this is fitting for Halloween.
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Re: Does the occult use ritual magick to manipulate reality?
i think it's a mix of magic and technologies that are otherworldly in origin.
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Never thought about otherworldy.

I think perhaps.
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uses ritual magick to manipulate reality. But thats half the story. In my opinion ceremonial magick is simply a methodology by which one can learn the tools by which one can participate more fully in reality. Its your birthright but you have to wake up to it. Ritual magick is but one path to walk to remember what you were born capable of. Its not an end in and of itself. So most ritualists learn to do what they will without candles, robes, magick circles etc. Its all in your head. Our heads. Our head. Gods Head remembering subjectively through our awakening.
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An occultist may use ritual magick to manipulate the perception you describe as reality, yes.
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An occultist may use ritual magick to manipulate the perception you describe as reality, yes.
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hmmmm you got more?
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Not as such no, they use us to do it for them...

6 billion minds all conned into creating their own prison.
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Not as such no, they use us to do it for them...

6 billion minds all conned into creating their own prison.
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Perhaps we are coming out of that.

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im not being rude here but this thread is all over the place

Does the occult use ritual magick to manipulate reality?


The sentence structure isnt even correct , and im not being an ass talking about grammar or spelling

"The Occult" simply means that which is HIDDEN from the majority

it derives from the old word for eclipse OCCULTATION in which a body would HIDE the body it passes infront of

the occult is anything hidden / esoteric so technically every topic other than politics on glp ; ufos aliens magic demons angels conspiracies etc, is all "occult"

thusly ritual magick is a branch of the occult

and all it is , is an older purer form of the weaker systems such as superstition and mediaeval witchcraft

it has the same intent as these forms , but it is supposed that the affect is stronger because there is a more definite system of operation, and arguably that it is truer to its source; atlantean / antideluvian origins.

But in itself the idea of this rigid ordering system , is much like how humans developed numbers to impliment order into a chaotic reality , and create some form of constant.
Thusly ritual magic itself is as abstract as any other form of sorcery or witchcraft , and it is the psychological trick of the user believing that it is more potent, that conjurs the belief in it , that affects reality.

So it isnt the magic , its how the system interacts with human will, to allow human will to transcend everyday logic, and thusly change reality
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furthermore, no one "dabbles in the occult" this is like saying do you dabble in technology , do you dabble in sport..

the term occult has entered the vernacular with a totally false definition , and id guess it waas presented purposely as such to keep certain people out
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Abraham and Moses are Masonic initiates (Luciferians). Yes, you're right on. The thing is, the Mother of God replaces their lord of the bible in the Real Trinity, and here's the evidence why. The entire world is worshipping Satan, unknowingly. This is the reason for the Apocalypse.

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I'm pretty sure some on GLP use the occult....so be careful my friend!
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Never thought about otherworldy.

I think perhaps.
 Quoting: John Goz


It has been going on for thousands of years...

Take a look at the drawing Aleister Crowley (1875–1947) made of a being that he claimed he was in contact with.

Remember... this was drawn before 1947... It is said that the exact year was 1918. The Concept of the Greys was not known at the time.

[link to www.boudillion.com]

You must understand... contact is just not with human spirits but with off world spirits as well. And the information those in the occult have obtained, has brought this world to this point today....This should add a hole new dimension to your consciousness.

More on Crowley...
[link to en.wikipedia.org]

Open your mind... if you dare.

DZ
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Re: Does the occult use ritual magick to manipulate reality?
im not being rude here but this thread is all over the place

Does the occult use ritual magick to manipulate reality?


The sentence structure isnt even correct , and im not being an ass talking about grammar or spelling

"The Occult" simply means that which is HIDDEN from the majority

it derives from the old word for eclipse OCCULTATION in which a body would HIDE the body it passes infront of

the occult is anything hidden / esoteric so technically every topic other than politics on glp ; ufos aliens magic demons angels conspiracies etc, is all "occult"

thusly ritual magick is a branch of the occult

and all it is , is an older purer form of the weaker systems such as superstition and mediaeval witchcraft

it has the same intent as these forms , but it is supposed that the affect is stronger because there is a more definite system of operation, and arguably that it is truer to its source; atlantean / antideluvian origins.

But in itself the idea of this rigid ordering system , is much like how humans developed numbers to impliment order into a chaotic reality , and create some form of constant.
Thusly ritual magic itself is as abstract as any other form of sorcery or witchcraft , and it is the psychological trick of the user believing that it is more potent, that conjurs the belief in it , that affects reality.

So it isnt the magic , its how the system interacts with human will, to allow human will to transcend everyday logic, and thusly change reality
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No problem with the criticism. Nice post, this is why I come to Godlike, to learn about things hidden.
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why you think the south lost the civil war ?
hitler could NOT invade england ???
and even obomba strolling into the white house from being an unknown entity outside of billy and thom ayers house---
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Welcome to the Doorway of the Occult... Not what you thought it was huh?

Lol... Nothing ever is...

Floweroflife

Start reading about the Flower of life here
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Never thought about otherworldy.

I think perhaps.
 Quoting: John Goz


It has been going on for thousands of years...

Take a look at the drawing Aleister Crowley (1875–1947) made of a being that he claimed he was in contact with.

Remember... this was drawn before 1947... It is said that the exact year was 1918. The Concept of the Greys was not known at the time.

[link to www.boudillion.com]

You must understand... contact is just not with human spirits but with off world spirits as well. And the information those in the occult have obtained, has brought this world to this point today....This should add a hole new dimension to your consciousness.

More on Crowley...
[link to en.wikipedia.org]

Open your mind... if you dare.

DZ
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Interesting..... who is Lam?
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I have been reading quite a bit of the flower of life lately.
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why you think the south lost the civil war ?
hitler could NOT invade england ???
and even obomba strolling into the white house from being an unknown entity outside of billy and thom ayers house---
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1169966


Why do you think Hitler had a Stealth JET Bomber that was almost ready to bomb London?




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I have been reading quite a bit of the flower of life lately.
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Great... it is quit amazing.

There is a Temple in Abydos Egypt. The Flower of Life is on a wall inside the temple.

No one knows how it is there. It's not painted on. It's not carved. Best they can tell, it was heated with some sort of a lazer perhaps... it is part of the wall.

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Circles have been used for centuries to manifest desired outcomes.

Now we are just starting to brig to light how collective consciousness works.

Isn't it time to expose how this knowledge has been used in the past? Is it not time?
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Interesting thought. The flower of life is based upon the perception from the emanation of the circle.



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Circles have been used for centuries to manifest desired outcomes.

Now we are just starting to brig to light how collective consciousness works.

Isn't it time to expose how this knowledge has been used in the past? Is it not time?
 Quoting: John Goz


The circle is almost complete... once again. And thus the great reveling is upon us. I have been awake for 10 years now. It is amazing to see the numbers that I have seen reborn but there numbers will increase exponentially over the coming years... This give me more brothers to speak with...lol

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Interesting thought. The flower of life is based upon the perception from the emanation of the circle.



synchronistic
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Yes... indeed... it's everywhere if you know HOW to see...
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This is something few know...

The Symmetry of the flower is a fractal replication of thought manifesting in form.
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This is something few know...

The Symmetry of the flower is a fractal replication of thought manifesting in form.
 Quoting: Dark Zen


Very good. It is also God making itself known.
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Circles have been used for centuries to manifest desired outcomes.

Now we are just starting to brig to light how collective consciousness works.

Isn't it time to expose how this knowledge has been used in the past? Is it not time?
 Quoting: John Goz


The circle is almost complete... once again. And thus the great reveling is upon us. I have been awake for 10 years now. It is amazing to see the numbers that I have seen reborn but there numbers will increase exponentially over the coming years... This give me more brothers to speak with...lol
 Quoting: Dark Zen


What circle is almost complete? Is it the great cycle you are talking about?
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