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Yugoslavia was destroyed by the IMF and the American government

 
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A few days before the start of Yugoslavia bloody revel in Slovenia in June 1991st , Belgrade was visited by then U.S. Secretary of State James Baker. The U.S., of course, knew about Milosevic's plans, and the only reason for withdrawal of Belgrade's commencement of the war in Slovenia was the fear of the possible reactions of the NATO-led America. Therefore, only a few days before the Baker visit to Moscow secretly (without the knowledge of Prime Minister Ante Markovic) traveled the Federal Secretary for National Defence Veljko Kadijevic. He returned disappointed: the first man the Soviet Army General Dmitry Yazov he said that he could not count on Soviet assistance in the event of NATO intervention in Yugoslavia after the JNA attack on Slovenia. But Milosevic and Kadijevic sun grew hot with a side that had at least hoped for: Secretary of State Baker to them bluntly said exactly what they thought - if the JNA attacked Slovenia, the West up on Yugoslavia, followed by isolation of the country and the denial of billions of dollars promised to help.

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sure, that is why the jna pulled out of slovenia...

...but the jna did get an excellent start for fighting against the croats and at the same time, they did a favour to americans, because they scared the slovenian politicians into the arms of the west and forcing them to make secret concessions (most probably: nato and eu membership in exchange for peace and gun selling to the croats)

if the russians rejected to help, that can mean only one thing. it was pre-arranged between the russians and americans - maybe only to an extent and maybe the americans later broke some part of their deal ( as usual)...

anyway, it is an illusion things happened in yugoslavia according to inner tensions - most of these tensions were orchestrated by foreign powers, mainly the us and the vatican..
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probably at that time Russia was not is position to help anybody ...not even itself

Russia lost all the countries of USSR and was in deep economic shit

if happened now Putin would help

Gorbachiov and Yealsin were NWO shills
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 4413125


you may be right about russia being too weak
i dont know about gorbachev, jeltsin and putin,
i guess jeltsin was the "most corruptest", but i simply cant say much about the other two. they have some pluses and some minuses. i really dont know on which side they really are on... i never really studied them enough i guess..
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America likes the slave system. never get a superiority complex against america
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lol

experiences?
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11/01/2011 08:19 AM
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i say it was the muzzie population that reached critical mass.

just like it will happen to the rest of europe soon...
 Quoting: Sharty Mc Bean


Bingo !
and the rest of the world . that's the plan.

muzzies will be used as the TOOL again, as they are EASILY
STEERED, being the lowest common denominator of human Consciousness ..... FACT !
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Europe threw the towel in handing America its world dominance. Cultural evolution is a racketeers fear.
Kennedy is relevant to this because as president believed in the betterment to america's youth.
Underlying those principles were education.
europe now succumbed to consequences there actions.
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i say it was the muzzie population that reached critical mass.

just like it will happen to the rest of europe soon...
 Quoting: Sharty Mc Bean


Bingo !
and the rest of the world . that's the plan.

muzzies will be used as the TOOL again, as they are EASILY
STEERED, being the lowest common denominator of human Consciousness ..... FACT !
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 3576534


i m sure the americans would want to make some kind of muslim-christian apocalipse here but there arent many muslims here. mostly only in bosnia and they are surrounded by christians and they only disturb the most intolerant ignorants, because mostly they are very peaceful. there is muslim population also in serbia (Sandzak) but there also are practicaly no conflicts.

the muslims in slovenia (mostly from bosnia, who came in the last 60 or even 20 years) dont even get one single mosc (there is at least one thousand catholic churches), because people say the plan is to build it too high...

..so you can keep fantasyzing about europe becoming muslim, but that is only because of the immigrants. native europeans becoming muslim are neglectable in numbers.

i respect muslims and have nothing against them, but our culture is alcohol oriented and the catholic church tolerates drinking, yet islam does not, so i see no perspective in my fellow countrymen to ever become muslims en large. they would prefer to become budhists imho, if they had to choose a non christian faith, because of our history of warring with the turkish muslims while we had no conflict with the buddhists

so imo, the balkans will hardly ever become muslim enlarge and definitely not in a foreseeable future
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Europe threw the towel in handing America its world dominance. Cultural evolution is a racketeers fear.
Kennedy is relevant to this because as president believed in the betterment to america's youth.
Underlying those principles were education.
europe now succumbed to consequences there actions.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 4247902


i think they are together in bed, the euro - american axis, namely through the vatican - london - washington 3 cities (tripolis) connection, the spiritual, financial and military centers of the new roman empire, sorry, new world order

no politicians who would in fact liberate the subjects in any considerable way, are to be allowed public appearance, i guess
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Yugoslavia was once a regional industrial power and economic succes. Two decades before 1980, annual gross domestic product (GDP) growth averaged 6.1 percent, medical care was free, literacy was 91 percent and life expectancy was 72 years.

the Reagan administration targeted the Yugoslav economy in a Secret Sensitive 1984 National Security Decision Directive (NSDD 133),
 Quoting: Kathryn Albrecht 4358477


TPTB did that, to say Reagan or his admin masterminded that is laughable. It was in the books for at least a century before that. Yes long before it was even a nation. Same script is happening in the middle east.

Read 1984
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Jugoslavia died with tito....
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Europe threw the towel in handing America its world dominance. Cultural evolution is a racketeers fear.
Kennedy is relevant to this because as president believed in the betterment to america's youth.
Underlying those principles were education.
europe now succumbed to consequences there actions.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 4247902


i think they are together in bed, the euro - american axis, namely through the vatican - london - washington 3 cities (tripolis) connection, the spiritual, financial and military centers of the new roman empire, sorry, new world order

no politicians who would in fact liberate the subjects in any considerable way, are to be allowed public appearance, i guess
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yes they're in bed now because thats the order. preceding this historical time line there were alternate's which collided.
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Yugoslavia was once a regional industrial power and economic succes. Two decades before 1980, annual gross domestic product (GDP) growth averaged 6.1 percent, medical care was free, literacy was 91 percent and life expectancy was 72 years.

the Reagan administration targeted the Yugoslav economy in a Secret Sensitive 1984 National Security Decision Directive (NSDD 133),
 Quoting: Kathryn Albrecht 4358477


TPTB did that, to say Reagan or his admin masterminded that is laughable. It was in the books for at least a century before that. Yes long before it was even a nation. Same script is happening in the middle east.

Read 1984
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 756504


well the title says IMF and the us government. it was not meant spceifically that the reagan administration thought of it first, of course. the plan to get the balkan teritory is old and modified only slightly in time to suit the circumstances. and yes similar things are happening throughout the world.

by the at least a century old plan do you mean the rhodes's round table and the plan for the anglosaxon domination or do you mean the older plan of the vatican to invent william shakespeare and help britain to become an empire?
or do you mean something else?
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Jugoslavia died with tito....
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well it was sort of born when franz joseph died, but it was an echo of an older idea. the son of franz joseph the austrohungarian emperor who commites suicide because his father would not let him go public with his political ideas, wanted to establish a triple monarchy, giving finaly the slavonic the same rights as the germans and hungarians had in the empire, namely a crown. the crown was witheld for many centuries for political reasons, but in the 19th century, after napoleon introduced civilian rights to europe, the austrian throne thought of this possibility in realistical terms, for they divided the throne once before with the hungarians and the slavonics were here the first.

so after the world war 1 the slavonics in austria formed an independent state, but later joined with serbia to form a bigger state under the serbian crown.

the idea was of course much older, allready in the early 19th century, when Napoleon introduced the Illyrian provinces, consisting of slavonic lands in then austrohungarian empire (roughly today Croatia and Slovenia)
with the capital in Ljubljana.

the idea itself was of course much older and was partly connected with one of our extinct royal families in the 14th century, the dukes of Celje, the last of which was murdered in a serbian - hungarian - austrian conspiracy,

but originated in the ancient democratic ritual of electing a slovenian king in carinthia, which also the holy german roman emperors had to consider in ancient times if they wanted to be legal, but somewhere in the 15th century, they stopped and the ritual was only awakened from the dead because of the early americans using it as a model when writing their constitution.

the ritual dates back at least to 625, when there was a big Slovenian / Slavonic state of Karantania from slovenia to the Czecks and Slovaks, if not to the Noric kingdom from pre roman and Roman times.

the region was strategic even before the romans, becaus it connects the mediteranean and the central & eastern europe, the baltic, asia etc

meaning also it is one of the africa - asia passages,
the other two being gibraltar and sinai
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Those were strange times ... socialism is collapsing and we are expecting a better world, one that we looked over the fence ... but we got a war. I do not think that America or anyone else is responsible for the war. The people wanted a war ... not all but enough to start a war. We got what we got, and nobody is happy ...
wakeup
 Quoting: kemicar


Yes, before your war started, I read a book, by occasion, and it was about the nationalities in Yougoslawia, and there I could read, that once it will explode there.
But, en vrai, in veriaty, the war in Yougoslawia started, because the west wanted it. And! The big idiot in all of it was Scharping, really an asshole, who gave an order to strike on Yougoslawia, though (!) they all knew, that there are not so big querrels, that it would be a must, to make war. I saw one video at Youtube, was once in the German TV, but only 1 time (!), and there, ashamefully things about Germany were told! (Sorry, I would have to search this video, but you can find it at Youtube). Not YOU was the problem, it was GERMANY, who gave its YES, after which all escalated.
(I am not German, only living there and speaking German, so, please, do not project something on me about Germans, ok?! And - it was SCHARPING!)
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Those were strange times ... socialism is collapsing and we are expecting a better world, one that we looked over the fence ... but we got a war. I do not think that America or anyone else is responsible for the war. The people wanted a war ... not all but enough to start a war. We got what we got, and nobody is happy ...
wakeup
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Yes, before your war started, I read a book, by occasion, and it was about the nationalities in Yougoslawia, and there I could read, that once it will explode there.
But, en vrai, in veriaty, the war in Yougoslawia started, because the west wanted it. And! The big idiot in all of it was Scharping, really an asshole, who gave an order to strike on Yougoslawia, though (!) they all knew, that there are not so big querrels, that it would be a must, to make war. I saw one video at Youtube, was once in the German TV, but only 1 time (!), and there, ashamefully things about Germany were told! (Sorry, I would have to search this video, but you can find it at Youtube). Not YOU was the problem, it was GERMANY, who gave its YES, after which all escalated.
(I am not German, only living there and speaking German, so, please, do not project something on me about Germans, ok?! And - it was SCHARPING!)
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 4402904


Again...I don't think that west wonted to destroy Yugoslavia. Even, on the beginning Croatia offer some kind of confederacy to Serbia but Milosevic didn't accept this idea. Everything was clear when war is started. Yugoslavia don't exists anymore. Exists Republics of ex-Yugoslavia. And that was fact. In that moment international community have choice to confess the fact or to wait. Germany and Vatican, because of long historical friendship do it first. Waiting for confession at that moment was giving right to Milosevic to defend his idea of Yugoslavia (what was not acceptable for nobody except for Serbia)

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Those were strange times ... socialism is collapsing and we are expecting a better world, one that we looked over the fence ... but we got a war. I do not think that America or anyone else is responsible for the war. The people wanted a war ... not all but enough to start a war. We got what we got, and nobody is happy ...
wakeup
 Quoting: kemicar


Yes, before your war started, I read a book, by occasion, and it was about the nationalities in Yougoslawia, and there I could read, that once it will explode there.
But, en vrai, in veriaty, the war in Yougoslawia started, because the west wanted it. And! The big idiot in all of it was Scharping, really an asshole, who gave an order to strike on Yougoslawia, though (!) they all knew, that there are not so big querrels, that it would be a must, to make war. I saw one video at Youtube, was once in the German TV, but only 1 time (!), and there, ashamefully things about Germany were told! (Sorry, I would have to search this video, but you can find it at Youtube). Not YOU was the problem, it was GERMANY, who gave its YES, after which all escalated.
(I am not German, only living there and speaking German, so, please, do not project something on me about Germans, ok?! And - it was SCHARPING!)
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 4402904


Again...I don't think that west wonted to destroy Yugoslavia. Even, on the beginning Croatia offer some kind of confederacy to Serbia but Milosevic didn't accept this idea. Everything was clear when war is started. Yugoslavia don't exists anymore. Exists Republics of ex-Yugoslavia. And that was fact. In that moment international community have choice to confess the fact or to wait. Germany and Vatican, because of long historical friendship do it first. Waiting for confession at that moment was giving right to Milosevic to defend his idea of Yugoslavia (what was not acceptable for nobody except for Serbia)
 Quoting: kemicar


"Germany and Vatican, because of long historical friendship do it first"

friendship = geopolitical interests

... friendship?!
comon
lol
slovenia was of main strategic importance... (slovenia and croatia historically have no bigger differences than the hungarians having more apetite on croatia, while austria has more apetite on slovenia)
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Those were strange times ... socialism is collapsing and we are expecting a better world, one that we looked over the fence ... but we got a war. I do not think that America or anyone else is responsible for the war. The people wanted a war ... not all but enough to start a war. We got what we got, and nobody is happy ...
wakeup
 Quoting: kemicar


Yes, before your war started, I read a book, by occasion, and it was about the nationalities in Yougoslawia, and there I could read, that once it will explode there.
But, en vrai, in veriaty, the war in Yougoslawia started, because the west wanted it. And! The big idiot in all of it was Scharping, really an asshole, who gave an order to strike on Yougoslawia, though (!) they all knew, that there are not so big querrels, that it would be a must, to make war. I saw one video at Youtube, was once in the German TV, but only 1 time (!), and there, ashamefully things about Germany were told! (Sorry, I would have to search this video, but you can find it at Youtube). Not YOU was the problem, it was GERMANY, who gave its YES, after which all escalated.
(I am not German, only living there and speaking German, so, please, do not project something on me about Germans, ok?! And - it was SCHARPING!)
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 4402904


Again...I don't think that west wonted to destroy Yugoslavia. Even, on the beginning Croatia offer some kind of confederacy to Serbia but Milosevic didn't accept this idea. Everything was clear when war is started. Yugoslavia don't exists anymore. Exists Republics of ex-Yugoslavia. And that was fact. In that moment international community have choice to confess the fact or to wait. Germany and Vatican, because of long historical friendship do it first. Waiting for confession at that moment was giving right to Milosevic to defend his idea of Yugoslavia (what was not acceptable for nobody except for Serbia)
 Quoting: kemicar


"Germany and Vatican, because of long historical friendship do it first"

friendship = geopolitical interests

... friendship?!
comon
lol
slovenia was of main strategic importance... (slovenia and croatia historically have no bigger differences than the hungarians having more apetite on croatia, while austria has more apetite on slovenia)
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well...of course that friendship brings interests....
dasbiergermanyanother do
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Re: Yugoslavia was destroyed by the IMF and the American government
Who say Yugoslavia is destroyed ??

We have still Yugoslavia, in Bosnia and Herzegovina

Is absolutely same only Serbs are not leaders and money don't go in Belgrade, but now we have Muslims and Sarajevo

All international institution support Muslims to rule maximum here, now they know they faked

When Croatia come in EU next year Muslim terrorist be in middle of hart in Europe

That terrorist what coming from around the world to live in Bosnia can act very easy everywhere in Eu

This is unfortunately only beginning religious war against all non Muslim and with money what all international institution give to Bosnia or to Muslims

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Umm not it was fucked long before the IMF was not even a glimmer in some zionsite's eye. Fucked by arbitrary lines drawn on maps , putting shiteaters in the same countries , with other shiteaters , they didn't like.
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Who gives a fuck about Yugoslavia???? We can do without anymore Yugo's.....
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I hear a cry for Yugoslavia from Slovenia...probably something is wrong with Europe...

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DITTO
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The judging in Hague for Gotovina is set up and pit.

They are not judging him they are judging Croatia, to have liberated occupied territory.

The in military action "FLASH" and "STORM" in summer of 1995 there was not murdered Serbs and ethnic cleansing because the Serbs were ordered to evacuate Krajina 3 days before the "Storm".

There is a video with proof that the Serbs went 3-5 days before the "Storm"

So Gotovina and Markac could not be guilty for nothing because the action was absolute clear!!

The disgraceful judgment of 20 years.

It's a credit to Masons Dutch and English role because Serbs lose in that war, and the western countries of Europe are not doing anything about it they did not give a fuck.

You know that Masons have the strongest center in Belgrade and cooperate with the Dutch and the English from the end of 19 th century.
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I forgot to said that evacuation of Serbs in 1995 from Croatian territory has been ordered by Belgrade. So where is the justice in Hague?

Justice and The Hague are two completely opposite ideas.

The best thing that happened is bombing Belgrade by NATO in 1999 to took Milosevic down thank you America for that.
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there is no america....


the world is controlled by a triangle...

international banks, MIC and the vatican....

communism and capitalism are two sides of the same coin....

both are controlled by the elite....
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GOTOVINA And MARKAC are libered in HAGUE They are free to go!!!!


JUSTICE FINALLY AFTER 7 and 9 YEARS Lying in jail because of a wrong judgment!!

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