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CIA translation of Dead Sea Scrolls

 
Anonymous Coward
12/08/2005 10:19 AM
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Yes please if you have the time. Thank you.
David Light Jedi  (OP)

12/08/2005 10:19 AM
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I am interested.

Thanks.
David.
Anonymous Coward
12/08/2005 10:19 AM
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I am interested also, thank you for your efforts.

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Texas Uncensored  (OP)

12/08/2005 10:19 AM
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Yes, thank you.
Anonymous Coward
12/08/2005 10:19 AM
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YES!
Thanks
Anonymous Coward
12/08/2005 10:19 AM
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Why is the CIA doing these translations?
Anonymous Coward
12/08/2005 10:19 AM
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Thank you WFS. I am also curious why the CIA has any vested interests in deciphering/translating the Dead Sea Scrolls. What is the motive? What are they trying to find or accomplish?

We know in these last days that those in high places of authority on this earthly realm have given their authority to the beast. Are they trying to find a linkage somewhere to present to the peoples? Are they trying to discover something to gain an advantage in deceiving the masses all that much more?

Is the son of perdition about to come into the world as ruler of the "NWO"?

Any insight into this WFS? Does your friend have any? And thanks again. I would like to read more.
feru  (OP)

12/08/2005 10:19 AM
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worship

Elohim and his Son Isa
Anonymous Coward
12/08/2005 10:19 AM
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Give glory to the One God. Mina! Mina! Mina!
zangtang  (OP)

12/08/2005 10:19 AM
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he who controls the past......
Anonymous Coward
12/08/2005 10:19 AM
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yoda
Faith In HIM!  (OP)

12/08/2005 10:19 AM
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bump
Anonymous Coward
12/08/2005 10:19 AM
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CIA and catholic hierarchy work together

what does the catholic church think of the scrolls?
Anonymous Coward
12/08/2005 10:19 AM
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Recorded history of the Essenes begins around 200 BC and ends around 100 AD. The information channeled by Edgar Cayce tells us that Mary, Joseph, John the Baptist, the innkeeper at Bethlehem and Jesus himself were all Essenes. Cayce had correctly identified the location of the Essene community eleven years before the scrolls were discovered. Cayce said that only a fraction of the Essenes lived in a discovered monastry. Thousands lived normal lives throughout the Middle East. They were bound together by the conviction that a messiah would be born within their ranks.

Cayce said that the head of the Essenes, called Judy, was incarnated in the twentieth century and came to him for a reading. Among her many functions was recordkeeper of the Essene material.

Cayce said that there were sects within the Essene movement itself. The philosophical dividing point seemed to be whether man could make things happen or whether only God could make things happen.
Anonymous Coward
12/08/2005 10:19 AM
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i heard a rumor that the catholic church was going to rewrite their bible to coincide with the Dead Sea Scrolls

the writers of the scrolls were gnostics

and the new catholic church is gnostic as well

so, i guess they´ll have a grand ol time rewriting their gnostic bible
Ain SophIA  (OP)

12/08/2005 10:19 AM
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[The thickets of the forest]
will be cut [down with an axe and Lebanon by a """MAJESTIC"""" one will f]all.
howdoyousaysuckmydick​inlatin?  (OP)

12/08/2005 10:19 AM
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I read a book about the scrolls, can´t remember the author, but he contends that no one wants to keep the material out of circulation more than your freaks in rome.. those men in dresses are scared to death, shaking in their red shoes afraid that the truth about anything that might free some minds

a jesuit friend told dismissed my philosophy as
more of that gnostic crap.. back in the nineties..
seems to have been a war behind the scenes
in rome opus dei v sj.. i am out of all those loops (meus deus!!) now so I have no idea and that is such a GOOD THING

RATZ
no bene diction for him
don´t look good for the light
if there is any left in that
crypto death cult

but the cia.. yeah.. catholics cia jesuits transsexuals and some poor young men whose mothers gave them to the church all groping in the dark.. some against their will.. jesus fucking christ... the whole org is criminal and any individuals left in their service who can´t see that are blind or retarded. .

the cia and the roman catholic church can suck my dick
if they can find it ..
Anonymous Coward
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Mount Carmel on the sea was also an Essene center, and most likely the one Joshu (Jesus) was associated with.

When Edgar Cayce says Mary was taken as a child to the temple and raised there, he is speaking of this Essene temple on Mount Carmel, not the one in Jerusalem.

Interesting book is "The Way of the Essenes: Christs Hidden Life Remembered"
by Anne and Daniel Meurois-Givaudan
Anonymous Coward
12/08/2005 10:19 AM
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you can´t rewrite the Bible using gnostic texts

that´s like rewriting the constitution of the USA using the communist manifesto
Anonymous Coward
12/08/2005 10:19 AM
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And Melchizedek will avenge the vengeance of the judgements of God ... and he will drag [them from the hand of]Belial and from the hand of all the sp[irits of] his [lot].


and the Children of Light Shout AMEN!!!!
Anonymous Coward
12/08/2005 10:19 AM
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there is no value in quoting dead books
Anonymous Coward
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bsflag
WarfareSaint  (OP)

12/08/2005 10:19 AM
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Tonight´s installment:


The Thanksgiving Hymns
1QH, 1Q36, 4Q427-32

Hymn 22 (formerly 18)

I thank Thee, my God!
I praise Thee, my Rock!
...

Who among all Thy creatures
is able to recount [Thy wonders]?
May Thy Name be praised
by the mouth of all men!
May they bless Thee forever
in accordance with [their understanding],
and proclaim Thee with the voice of praise
in the company of [the Sons of Heaven]!
There shall be neither groaning nor complaint
and wickedness [shall be destroyed forever];
Thy truth shall be revealed in eternal glory
and everlasting peace.


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The Community Rule
1Qs iii-iv

The Master shall instruct all the sons of light and shall
teach them the nature of all the children of men according
to the kind of spirit which they possess, the signs
identifying their works during their lifetime, their
visitation for chastisement, and the time of their reward.
From the God of Knowledge comes all that is and shall be.
Before ever they existed He established their whole design,
and when, as ordained for them, they come into being, it
is in accord with His glorious design that they accomplish
their task without change. The laws of all things are in
His hand and He provides them with all their needs.
He has created man to govern the world, and has appointed
for him two spirits in which to walk until the time of His
visitation: the spirits of truth and injustice. Those born
of truth spring from a fountain of light, but those born of
injustice spring from a source of darkness. All the
children of righteousness are ruled by the Prince of Light
and walk in the ways of light, but all the children of
injustice are ruled by the Angel of Darkness and walk in
the ways of darkness. The Angel of Darkness leads all the
children of righteousness astray, and until his end, all
their sin, iniquities, wickedness, and all their unlawful
deeds are caused by his dominion in accordance with the
mysteries of God. Every one of their chastisements, and
every one of the seasons of their distress, shall be
brought about by the rule of his persecution; for all his
allotted spirits seek the overthrow of the sons of light.
But the God of Israel and His Angel of Truth will succour
all the sons of light. For it is He who created the spirits
of Light and Darkness and founded every action upon them
and established every deed [upon] their [ways]. And He
loves the one everlastingly and delights in its works for
ever; but the counsel of the other He loathes and for ever
hates its ways.
...
The nature of all the children of men is ruled by these
(two spirits), and during their life all the hosts of men
have a portion of their divisions and walk in (both) their
ways. And the whole reward for their deeds shall be, for
everlasting ages, according to whether each man´s portion
in their two divisions is great or small. For God has
established the spirits in equal measure until the final
age, and has set everlasting hatred between their divisions.
...
Even now the spirits of truth and injustice struggle in the
hearts of men and they walk in both wisdom and folly.
According to his portion of truth so does a man hate
injustice, and according to his inheritance in the realm of
injustice so is he wicked and so hates truth. For God has
established the two spirits in equal measure until the
determined end, and until the Renewal, and He knows the
reward of their deeds from all eternity.


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The Ages of the Creation
4Q180

Interpretation concerning the ages made by God, all the ages
for the accomplishment [of all the events, past] and future.
Before ever He created them, He determined the works
of ... age by age. And it was engraved on [heavenly]
tablets ... the ages of their domination. This is the order
of the cre[ation of man from Noah to Abraham, un]til he
begot Isaac; ten [weeks (of years)].
And the interpretation concerns Azazel and the angels who
[came to the daughters of men; and] they bore to them giants.
And concerning Azazel ... and iniquity, and to cause them
all to inherit wickedness ... judgements and judgement of
the congregation.


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The Book of Enoch and the Book of Giants
4Q204 (1 En. cvi, 19-cvii, 2)

...[And af]ter [these shall co]me a greater wicked[ness than that
which will have been accomplished] in [their] d[ays. For] I know
the mysteries [of the Lord which] the holy ones have explained and
showed me and which I read [in] the heavenly [tablets. An]d I saw
written in them that one generation after another will do evil in
this way, ...


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Trac  (OP)

12/08/2005 10:19 AM
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Good stuff...
Anonymous Coward
12/08/2005 10:19 AM
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"there is no value in quoting dead books"

You mean, like the Bible?


More translations, please!
WarfareSaint  (OP)

12/08/2005 10:19 AM
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As for why the CIA has done this translation and what their interests may be, this remains unclear and is apparently classified. My friend was simply tasked to the assignment, being given no explanation or information regarding project or purpose. It seems things are very compartmentalized and need-to-know at the Agency still. I would expect nothing less.
WarfareSaint  (OP)

12/08/2005 10:19 AM
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Just a bump before bed.
Anonymous Coward
12/08/2005 10:19 AM
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God of knowledge equals gnosis

so, this is a gnostic tome
Anonymous Coward
12/08/2005 10:19 AM
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what about separation of church and state?

doesn´t apply to cia?
WarfareSaint  (OP)

12/08/2005 10:19 AM
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"what about separation of church and state?

doesn´t apply to cia?"

Apparently no more than it did to Nazi Germany, which might be an interesting topic of study for you, anyway.





GLP