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Stasis, mini stasis, craft, Jupiter

 
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NIP this is a wonderful thread.
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NIP,
There are a few things I would like to address first, followed by a few questions if you dont mind. To start, I see how people respond to you on various posts. They are relentlessly mean and uncompassionate. Im sorry that you have to endure that and its a shame people cant move on without bashing you. Its also really sad for me to see you with negative karma points because I know they were given to you by reason of you helping people look at a different side of things or in a lot of cases, negating their idea of doom. I too, have been aggravated by some of your remarks, but I wont resort to verbally bashing you and I dont believe in this karma system. That being said, the only times I have been aggravated at your remarks was when you mentioned something was not going to take place. That segways into my next comment.
There are many of us here on glp who just want out. We can no longer take it here. Many of us have become reclusive as we cant deal with the ills of the outside world any longer.
As for me, Im house bound because of medical reasons, but to me its a blessing. Even when I have to leave the house which is rare, I find humanity extremely soul assaulting and I need to get home as soon as possible.
So, when you have stated something was not going to happen, you essentially bursted our bubble of hope that this will all end. I firmly believe thats where a lot of your bad karma points have come from. I believe its people's misguided aggrevation with a small mix of pure mean spirited individuals who have the mentality of a 12 year old. Im truly sorry for this. If I was able to, I would turn your karma green and I hope some kind people will make that happen. I know it means nothing to you, but its a sad thing to look at knowing that you are just trying to help. I too am sorry for getting aggravated at you, tho I have never voiced it bcuz Im not that kind of person, but at a soul level, I wont hide it either. Im sorry.
To my questions....
1. You state that you are waiting for humanity to wake up and almost in the same breath you are saying its not going to happen. I feel its not and I feel things would have to change so much, that it could only be measured by nano scale levels. Nesara would be only a band-aid to humanity because everyone is still so very materialistic. My question is, WHEN can some of us get out of here? When does this stasis happen? When? Soon? In 2 more years? 10 years? Personally I cant handle more than 2 months, and I know I wont last for 5 more years.

I don't think it will happen at this late date, regards the pollution and wars. Something is very off, and I think I described that above someplace. It discourages me greatly. I don't think humanity was ready for NESARA as it was originally conceived, starting only here in the US of A. It would have however forced some growing up, and was hoped to help man realize he didn't need money once he had more he could conceive he could spend. It assumed in the planning that most people would take this job and shove and then when the services and supplies dwindled they would then go back to work in order to eat if nothing else, and learn the work must be done and have an understanding of what it takes to make any society work.

I have not immune to wanting out of here. And I actually begged to do my work from craft, the homesickness is great for me too. Plus the other aggravations, but Siraya came around and spent some goodly time with me. One issue is we all came to serve and learn and we signed celestial documents that we would stick it out for the learning in part but more to demonstrate our commitment and that we would not run off and leave the celestials holding the bag. We had to take this seriously. The bag go held anyway because so many star seed have not awakened to their contracts. Our numbers that are, as simply not enough. But when you make an obligation of this nature you are asked to fulfill it, not matter how it works out. Many have been released anyway, and that is between you and your guardian angels essentially.

I came very close to leaving in 1998, having gone thru a lot of miserably years with my body and other issues of society. I do however for staying, have had opportunity I would have totally missed had Ieft then. I had another opportunity years before when my daughter was in the military and I realized my children, although adult were not ready to fly without me, there ARE OBLIGATIONS to our family even if the kids are out of the home. We are the parents to others who are coming in, and our commitment is necessary for them to help actualize change here. This IS a harsh and lonely world. I am helped to stay here for family I have made in this journey too.

It happens when the heirarchy makes it so. There is constant preps so it can go at any time it becomes necessary and the pressure of the earth and thug games even now covered all over tv will force it before much longer. They continue to prepare people aboard the crafts at night to be able to handle the evacuation beam to get their ride out of here. Most star seeds will help if there is open evacuation and then drop the no longer needed bodies. Many are here in fact, even the little kids coming in, just for that potential, to get people on craft should that be required and their job is done.

2. Are you saying that all of us have to witness the complete fall out of the monetary, ecological fallout of this planet before anything changes?

enough people have to experience something to accept "Gods" intervention. And to karmically understand they should have stopped the slow coming to a boil of their home, as I used the frog soaking in a pot of heating water above. This would aid understanding of the situation and make our efforts much easier. If you need to leave, talk to your guardians, but look at your whole situation and spend time in observing and learning to the last possible moment. Testing is never easy and if they show before these events, there will be great rejection. that is known. I lot of people from up there put on temporary bodies to work down here just for research. man is not ready for anything, least of all star visitors.


3. I thought I read on a post that you commented on that we are the ones to change this world, not someone intervening for us. If this is correct, why do you think that this earth is going to get shut down by a force that is clearly not us.


I am not sure I am comprehending your question. Force will shut down this world one way or another. A lot of "us" volunteered because we truly believed we could fix this world, its all lessons for the ones of us who came here to partake of them.

I am truly growing disappointed with my society at any rate and with communications on forums, as few people actually see this world as it has come to be. We had little time left when we started AbundantHope, and Germain, S333, and others held out that only something like NESARA could produce the change needed. They have lost great hope too. The people are supposed to wake up, and it matters less whether they get it done, at this time, its more important they just wake up. It goes to soul growth, the ones who are supposed to waken up is JOHN DOE, the average folks. They still refuse to look at this damaged planet, to even SEE and if they do partly see, its in gods hands to them and not man's hands. Religion has really been used very effectively as a tool of destruction. While you impatiently wait use the time to study if nothing else.



4. You have made it clear that there are no planetary bodies on a collision course with us at this time. What are your thoughts on what is going on this week w/YU2005 and the enormous sun spots headed our way.
Thank you Nip, sorry to bombard you with all these questions and thank you for trying to help people.


The asteroid is just another elenin hype story. Earth has had sunspots that big before, without any major issues except minor radio issues etc. I think there is too much hype there, in part due to the fact we have only had satellites and the internet for a short period of time and people don't know. I don't know regards previous solar max's myself, as I was not using the net right, or some of them were not up. I didn't know. I have had to go look at the old pics of the week on SOHO etc and I have pulled old digital data too, and so far, these things are no more serious than before. What was different apparently was the very long min. We have more and more communications orbiting the planet, and them getting muck up is the greater risk I think.

The risks for man are the axis shifts and magnetic pole reversal, or something big hitting the planet, and of course the increasing great quakes. But the sun spots, I find the interesting but we have had much bigger CME' and were still walk the planet. The CME;s really are good in a way, fleet has to give us shots of protons inside the magnetosphere to help prevent magnetic reversal from the long min. the delays are mostly over the hope of not having to leave the planet for thousands of years and moving man ahead as much as possible because people that are not waking up the God within them, have many long journeys ahead before they can have an opportunity to make their ascension again.

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OK I bolded the questions above in the quoted post and placed my answers in italics and color. I am getting ready to fold up for the night. I didn't notice the pin or I might have paid earlier attention, depending on when it was pinned.
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CMON PEOPLE STOP HATING ON NIP!! LETS GET NIP INTO THE GREEN OF KARMA!! NIP DOESNT DESERVE ALL THIS HATE. CMON, IF YOU HAVE KARMA TO GIVE, HELP NIP OUT.

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I don't mind the red karma, it informs and often causes people to think. You can be pretty sure that for the time being, the red thumbers will also work harded to keep me in the red. I only mind people that create lies or copy lies to use them, like the joker that just brought up again the lie put out that my daughter had me in a mental hospital. this has never happened. I do not like family mentioned.

My only time spent on a mental unit of a hospital was as a NURSE taking care of patients. I have had no treatment for any mental illness, period in my whole life. I have always kept my shit together. These ones will answer at some point for these manufactured lies. This is the method thugs use, I deal with it, just as other folks gifting this planet had to deal with. Its the most common story used against all sorts of whistleblowers etc.
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As above, I am going to bed now. I will clean up the thread if necessary tomorrow. Again, thanks to the one who had enough green thumbs to pin the thread. :blooming rose:
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So the people on Venus who are 5D, they see Jupiter as a second sun?
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Thank you NIP for answering all my questions above and again, I wish people would stop hating on you and hand over some green and give you some credit. I 5 star'd this thread and of course, compared to everyone else's shitty disposition in giving you 1 star, it made no difference.
Thanks so much NIP for your time.hf
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Here's a "fun" image if you are up to it. Craft shooting a beam into the sun. nasa will erase it in a couple days likely. I have not asked what they are doing tonight, but they can kill sunspots, make sunspots, create CME's and Coronal holes and shut up the coronal holes. They can also reduce the effects of a CME hitting earth if they think it wise. Mentioning this because this stuff is what heaven, and eternal life are about. One day some of you during your life eternal might be on one of these massive craft, remodeling suns and other projects. hf




Does not appear that they have very good aim

hmm its a 2d image so its a little hard to determine what is being hit, and it may be the corona needing some adjusting. actually, if you right click to enlarge the image to its full size, there is a little + where it may or may not have made contact.


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You would also need a seriously insulated craft, or be multi-dimensional to withstand the heat that close to the sun. So how do they get so close?

technology. and the sun really isn't quite as hot as man thinks it must be. Space is cold in fact. the heat we feel from the sun is because of our atmosphere and its energy reactions to the sun, plus the heat within the planet. The craft are semi physical and have their own energy shielding technologies which can flow the heat around them.

these craft are not from other evolutionary planets like earth. These are owned by the superuniverse government. (milky Way is the core of our superuniverse.)

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It's funny how you are the first person besides me to come to the same conclusion about these bogeys. They are my properties and they are called Bogons; they belong to Ra and they ADsord cosmic radiation. The day I discovered this idea, UFOs appeared on top of Oxford University, UK, meaning this was a right concept of mine. The day I go, they will probably disappear with me, setting off the Sun to blow up and sending us to a new solar system. (The TV just said accurate lol)
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Op - i am sure you are aware that you are more full of the new age scam than most - I pray and hope for your redemption and also for the many you have hurt by deceiption
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My friend-as difficult as it may seem to accept what the OP is teaching, it is grounded in truth. You know that we have been lied to and deceived about every part of our existence in this life stream. All history and politics has been written by those in control-you know this in your core-don't you? Then what makes you believe that organized religion is ANY DIFFERENT!? It's not, in fact it has been Satan's most useful tool for allowing his minions(TPTB) to control mankind through it. Neither Jesus, Budda, Mohammad, or Krisna ever wanted a religion started in their names, because the sign of a true prophet is one who teaches others HOW TO EMPOWER THEMSELVES!!!! Nobody does it for you! Jesus himself said "As you sow, so shall you reap". Why would a "savior" ever teach that lesson? He wouldn't!

OP is trying to awaken all those bound by the lie of organized religion. I also pray that you free yourself from those chains! Namaste!
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Good evening NIP.

I really believe it's too hard for many people to open to the real reality of the state of our world. If people began to truly look around them, just at the people they know, they would begin to see the changes that have taken place due to their "running from the real reality".

I have many friends who considered themselves "spiritual". I really should say HAD friends. These friends were kind and helpful people who would do anything to reach out to anyone in need. Now they have changed and not for the better. The people I knew and loved were preparing for the ascension of our world. Now they have become a shadow of their former selves.

These people are now fearful and vengeful. I don't understand how this could have happened. Many have become recluses and cannot bear to be around other people. Some have turned away from their families or their families have turned against them.

My husband has been having emotional issues for a while now. It started with loosing his job - his identity and it went from there. He works so hard to keep himself sane and wants that very badly. The friends I used to have have turned so cold. They want me to walk away from him and leave him stranded. They have no heart left inside of them. At no time is my husband a danger to me or my child, even though he can't get it together. Although I have no patience for his inability to work it out, I will not hang him out to dry....No matter what, he deserves to be loved just like we all do.

I don't understand what is happening or why I see so many people I love and care about going insane. It's like a virus that is infecting this world. I have seen it because it has affected my world. Everyone should look around theirselves and see how many people, adults and teenagers who are on anti-depressants and other mood stablizing drugs.

It's quite unbelievable.

Is this part of what is happening due to the fact that mankind cannot get it together to heal this world? Is there something to all these people with mental illnesses that seem to be in hyperdrive all around us?
Kindness is in our power, even when fondness is not. --Samuel Johnson
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I have a question--

I'm confused about how stasis works. I just read that this happened once before for a week--

I can understand people asleep not knowing the difference--but how about people flying in airplanes?

And I'm wondering if people get moved up and out--what of those left behind?

Say one family member moves on--does that mean they have to die? They can't just disappear--will they be missed? Or will it be like they never existed--but how can that work?

What if a mother gets moved on and her child stays here? The mother can't have not existed.

I would choose to stay for family--I get that, but it is difficult.

Are you allowed to provide a "Heads up" for anything "big" about to happen?

Like a time frame?
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This is an interesting Jupiter thread here, that I posted in recently. Somebody saw star ship Jupiter turn off its lights. Thread: I just saw Jupiter blink!?!
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interesting thread, bump for later tomato
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Ok one of you expressed discomfort with the wait last night while the thread was pinned. Well interesting enough today, here comes this piece by Machiventa Melchizedek thru Johan. You never know what "they" are noticing! Machiventa, for those of you familiar with the bible, is the Melchizedek Son of God that bestowed himself on the planet in the days of Abraham. He is now the permanent planetary prince (ruler) of Earth from Nebadon. He shares his position with Esu Immanuel who will be here about 1000 years or whatever is needed. Esu will walk the planet visibly, Machinventa will be invisible except in the Morontial temples and I won't explain those here right now.

Those making it a mission to collect clusters of 3 green thumbs, these works from my website are approved by SHR of GLP for publishing of FULL content. Please do not waste the mods time by making copyright infringement reports on them. See the end of the post for link and details. Thankyou. NIP

Patience - Now YOU must walk the last mile ...




I AM Machiventa Melchizedek.

In continuation of my visits via this scribe :

Today I like to address all of the AH readers and members with a spiritual MATTER that DOES MATTER very much.

I know the wait has brought many of you to the brink of despair, disappointed to say the least, IMPATIENCE to hit the nail on the head.

IMPATIENCE is what I like to address :

A most accurate description of PATIENCE would be CALM ENDURANCE. IMpatience would be its opposite : NERVOUS INTOLERANCE or something UNBEARABLE.

Do you think I am playing with words OR are exactly these words playing with your emotions ???

What IS SO UNBEARABLE in your life, in comparison with 6 billion people on earth living in far worse conditions then most of you reading here? OH, that what you complain about ? That what you fear so much ? That what you want but actually do not need because you do not even appreciate what you have already, while fully concentrating on what you don't have ? Perhaps unbearable is KNOWING and having to live with the Truth OR ignoring it already for a very long time, actually ignoring RESPONSABILITY ??? Perhaps unbearable is the UNKNOWING and relying on others to hear from the ' other side ' ???

My dearly beloveds, if this is too much salt in an open wound, THEN THE GOOD NEWS IS, that you have surely no reason whatsoever to be impatient, YOU HAVE WORK TO DO! AND QUICKLY TOO!

Some of you shy away from a call to duty in the AH forum. The stories and channelings and teachings and messages and reality checks on the AH front worked for a long time, but when duty and responsability knocks on your door, all of the sudden, NOBODY HOME to answer the call or the door...

It is with Love in my heart Beloveds that I present myself, BUT WE ARE LACKING SPACE AND TIME TO BE FOOLING AROUND. All the extra opportunities on so many occasions that came along since AH, the ONLY SECOND COMING ORGANISATION OF CHRIST MICHAEL OF NEBADON, YOUR GOD ATON, YOUR SOVEREIGN, opened their doors, should have turned you from front page reader into front line soldier of Light. Now has it? Even those who engaged into membership on the AH private forum, are you an avid reader or an avid Light Warrior? I am sure you KNOW.

This is not mentioned to compare yourself with others. But tell me dears, can you answer me straight up, right here, right now : Who are you ( Essence )? Where do you come from ( Home )? What are you doing here ( Purpose )? Where are you going from here ( Future )?

If so, let me congratulate you, not only on your knowledge, but on your zeal, zest and hunger to know and know the Truth. Then you have found your balance no matter what, and all is moving according to plan.

If not so, then you surely have no reason to complain, to be impatient, to find anything unbearable, since very little earthly time is left to reach the other side where I assure you, you will want/love to be...

AH has given every opportunity to learn, to grow, to evolve, to hear for yourself, to experience and endure, to KNOW and survive, even to enjoy yourself. NOW YOU MUST WALK THE LAST MILE. We have gladly accompanied, even carried you as long as possible, yet now your heart ought to know : a front page reader or a front line soldier? Show me the SERVICE TO OTHERS in any form, way or shape and We show you our help and appreciation UNCONDITIONALLY you deserved.

Untill me meet ASAP, call it SHORTLY ...

I AM Machiventa Melchizedek.

Love and Light,

Johan.



Candace: this is a post I made on the forum in response to this. He makes a good point here, when I am down because of my small earth shit, or because I am in pain and want out of here, I do look around and decide my life is OK after all. EVEN WITH ATTACKS I HAVE EXPERIENCED OF WHICH THERE HAVE BEEN MORE THAN WE HAVE PUBLISHED ABOUT.



This one will go into one of my threads of glp of waiters. we who came for this 'signed on" for the natural durations of our lives beloveds, NO CHICKENING OUT. When I was down many months ago and just wanting my new body and do this from ship, Siraya came around and pointed out all the various reasons for NOT doing that, and one of them was I must stay in the MUCK with you, as its not fair for me to get to go, and not you or the others who signed on. And that there would be additional learning I would otherwise skip by. If you are bored you must find your own way out of that one too. I have too. Some of you could work forums more you know for the experience of it. You don't have to even mention AH, just work them.

Hey Machiventa walked this world for 60+ years AS AN ADULT. It is highly unusual for such a Melchizedek Son to bestow himself on a world such as this, as an emergency son. Can't we also do our best in this emergency???? You are NOT JUST Incarnate here, YOU ARE BESTOWING YOURSELVES TOO. PONDER THAT ONE. :heart: :its all good::AH logo:

Now, I have a little homework assignment, because its been a long time since I had talked about Machiventa and I have never done a message with him, others have. I want you to read the main chapter about him in the UB. Its NOT hard and although the UB does not mention this, this was a time of nuclear war on this planet and Abraham had command of such weapons. This had much to do with the reason he bestowed himself on this world. I do talk to him regularly and have done some "errands" for him elsewhere on the net. HE is now permanent planetary prince, which I have said before, and sharing that is Esu, who is temporary, and some of Esu's work will replace that lost or never manifested by the Adam and Eve mission to this world.

[link to www.urantia.org]



If you have not read the work I did under the Urantia book section we have, now would be time to do that, because i added teaching to some of the chapters long ago. This one would work well here to read. [link to abundanthope.net]





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I was looking thru my pinned threads, and I was intending to capture my posts on Jupiter from this thread. Need to do that, might place them here, but you ones can look, they start on page 6, you can use the arrow to move thru mine, or read it all to see what others are thinking. Thread: Unbelievable....eatern star not a freaking star!!!! (Page 6)

In fact I will move them here now to save me writing time. Will make a long post though. In the case of repetitive quotes, I have placed some in blue here. Here we go. It is long but bear with it, because I chose also to leave in the insults, because of the teaching.

Forgot to add. You can't see this thing until after about 10:15 pacific time. Brightest thing in the sky aside from the moon. I see it from just outside Vancouver, BC
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Yes its called star SHIP JUPITER, because the real Jupiter is now a sun and there is a star ship there playing the role, as Jupiter sun cannot be brought out from behind the sun yet, it's too strong energy wise. You can see it's baby pics here.

[link to sohowww.nascom.nasa.gov]

I have seen the star ship turn off its lights, was done as proof to me when I taking a lot of flack about the facts.

This is not anything dangerous. It's just a "placemat" for Jupiter. Its not Nibiru or any other of those stories, not one of which is true.

there are many star craft up there that are not stars, and usually it's pretty easy to tell because they are changing colors and obviously flashing lights.

I happen to teach for the returned Jesus on this planet, and this IS the truth about Nibiru et all.

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and yes " Arcturus" is also a CRAFT. Puts on lovely shows, enjoy them.

So is Sirius a craft, and so is Venus a craft, and so is Saturn a craft, and so is well, I forgot the name, that supposed red star that is probably almost gone this season.

And yes here in denver there is a star ship in the north east that comes out nearly every night after dark and just hangs in there too. Glad to see some of you starting to notice these are not stars and planets.

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I just had a discomforting thought. What if all this brilliance that we're seeing at different points across the observable skies is more refraction of light than anything to do with cosmology. Say, oh...Fukishima? Who knows what that continuing disaster has done to our upper atmosphere.
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beloved, we have been watching these since long before fukisima. the are CRAFT from Heaven.

And here are a bunch of others working on the sun from last March.

:Craft on Stereo :

And I have posted stuff the last two days with some working on the sun.

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I've been watching this thing for about 3 weeks now. Looks like a huge brilliant star. NOT!!! I started watching it through my hunting scope(busnell elite 6500) Freakiest thing I've seen in my life. Check out UrsuAdams page on you tube 32 degrees of insanity 9.04.11
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Check this out and start asking questions
 Quoting: westerncanuck
I was going to say Sirius until I read your second post. If you're seeing a bright star in the east at 10:15 pm or thereabouts, you are seeing Jupiter.
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Nope, star SHIP JUPITER< not Jupiter. And Sirius which won't be out at bedtime until later this fall is also Star ship sirius.

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Not a star, a planet called Jupiter.
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Yes it is Jupiter. However, I will say this, a week ago, I saw it every night and tonight I see it, but it is larger - larger than last week.

Obviously, it's orbit must have moved closer to the Earth for a while, because if that were a star, it would be beyond huge lol.

I wonder how much longer it will remain in our view?
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its orbit is officially closer, it is once every 13 months and the time is close, I think its about a month from now, not sure.

However, that said, as I said earlier, its star ship Jupiter. Use the arrow button to move back to my other posts. It has just risen here, In about 1/2 I should be able to see it, I will check and see if it's any different from a week or so ago when I was awake during the night.

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Ok I'm in CO. I live 15 miles west of pikes peak, way in the Mountains at 9200 Ft. I look at stars about every night. Tonight in the south west skies there is a Star that is freaking me out, Its flashing red white and yellow. its not that big but its a bright sucker. Does anybody be know what the He%^& that is..
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a star ship. I am waiting a few more minutes to check star ship jupiter, it's up I can see it thru a tree, I need a better view.

Ok "star" SW for CO guy is probably antares and its a CRAFT too and it's name is the Capricorn, and Jesus is often on that. and please no bullshit flags on this, I have been on that craft and I know of what I speak.

and Hi CO person, I live in the north surburban area of denver.
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what!! space ship.. they would not pick you up anyway.. Its To big to be a star ship.. + all the plants are east of me now,, so its not one of them.. (quote by another)

its too big to be a starship? how so, many of them are much larger than earth. and it doesn't have to be in the Jupiter orbit you know, it could orbit earth in fact to create the illusion. Ponder it.

any way, it's up, it is brighter than usual and it's still star ship Jupiter. Putting on a nice show for you all, enjoy! aim your telescopes on it, its hologram it shows will look mostly like Jupiter. I am regularly beamed to craft by the beam me up scotty method.

PS. I was hoping maybe it was SUN Jupiter, they have planned to introduce it at some point, but alas, while its beautifully bright, its not our new baby sun.

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Look, Candace, we'll page you if we want the opinion of a crazy old woman who believes she channels Jesus and that he swoops down in his starship to do light shows for her and her neighbors in her ghetto Denver trailer park. In the mean time, go take your meds.

Hugs. :)
quote above.

You get my opinion whether you want it or not, same as any one else who posts here. Take it or leave it. and its a normal trailer park, not a getto trailer park thankyou. Plenty of nice new homes in it. What does where I live have to do with anything? Really now........ He doesn't swoop down in his star ship, I am dematerialized to ship by the scotty beam me up method. You should be familiar with that idea.

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I've posted this a few times and told it was Jupiter and a bunch of other things. Like someone said 7 pages and no one still knows what the heck this is. Here is a video I took the other day. I zoomed in as far as I could and it pulsates bigger and smaller all by itself. When it gets very small you can see moons(?) on it, 4 of them I think.



[link to www.youtube.com]
 Quoting: Dee Lisch


hfthank you thankyou thankyou for the video. this is EXCELLENT proof of the star ship Jupiter and its hologram which does show the moons!!!!!

You have your answer from me if you wish to accept it. There are MANY up there. Go back to my previous posts for the link to SUN JUPITER, in which you can watch it being tugged back BEHIND the SUN over a period of less than 30 hours, as it's energy was causing earth to want to do a magnetic pole reversal, and the planet was wobbling like crazy which I documented for MONTHS here on gLP only to be ridiculed and eventually a very long thread was deleted.

People, I KNOW OF WHAT I SPEAK. you are free to take it or leave it, but it changes not the truth. the real Jupiter IS a sun now, and it's kept at an increased orbital speed by star fleet so the sun is always between it and earth at this time. they put the star ship Jupiter showing the hologram up in 2008 and some of you with keen eyes (and keen thinking) can look at images by folks such as Chris Go prior to 2008 and you can SEE THE DIFFERENCE. Others have noticed it when they study it carefully.

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By the way I did see that guy UrsaAdams videos and what struck me is he is tapping from Reno and I'm in Vegas so we both pretty much have the same view. He has a video, don't know which one but it looks exactly like what I videoed. On one of his videos he says that he thinks this is Nibiru....I don't think so. I think he's a bit dramatic.
 Quoting: Dee Lisch


It is NOT nibiru which is NOT here and it has NO planets anyway. It was last here 2000 years ago and it's orbit is 3600 years long, do the math.

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The footage does appear to be pulsating unless it's camera focus movement. Since when does Jupiter or any other planet pulsate? This is prominent in the east sky if it' what I'm seeing. It's cloudy so I haven't been able to observe it unobstructed.

Is this a planet or what peeps?
 Quoting: Revo/elation


IT has LIGHTs THAT ARE PULSATING TO THE NAKED EYE! Its not camera movement. Its a STAR SHIP PEOPLE how much more obvious can it be!!!!!!:its all good:

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The footage does appear to be pulsating unless it's camera focus movement. Since when does Jupiter or any other planet pulsate? This is prominent in the east sky if it' what I'm seeing. It's cloudy so I haven't been able to observe it unobstructed.

Is this a planet or what peeps?
 Quoting: Revo/elation


IT has LIGHTs THAT ARE PULSATING TO THE NAKED EYE! Its not camera movement. Its a STAR SHIP PEOPLE how much more obvious can it be!!!!!!:its all good:
 Quoting: Nobody in Particular



Can I ask you...how do you know all that you profess? Is it your opinion or do you have some sort of interaction with something else? You state things as fact but hey, need to know your source. Feeling and believing it may be fine for you, but I need more.
 Quoting: DisasterInc


Its my personal experience. I have INTERACTION. I have covered this a great deal here. I created and run the global 2nd coming organization called AbundantHope, which is a partnership of ground crew and the returned Jesus. I meet on craft regularly with these ones. Jesus has been IN MY HOME by the beam me in scotty method, not by the door. I KNOW PERSONALLY quite a few Celestials and I am an incarnate celestial, one of many on this planet at this time.

This material I post here on glp is my KNOWING. My sources in much of what I present are not of this world. And boy some nights, I get tired of being of this world and would love to go back to whence I am from. But I came to serve, I care about this world and I will see my way thru the muck and bullshit of it. I have endured attempted murder several times since we went public in 2005. It has not been exactly "fun".

There are several other incarnate members of my team who also attend meetings aboard craft and bring in this info. I am not a loner. We are all TIRED, let me share that with you of the constant shit we are dealt. the folks in europe are again having problems with loose lug nuts and the like on autos. a man had his two daughters murdered. team members in this country have been experiencing again, air being let out of tires and other crap. We SERVe. YOU take the information and use it or toss it. Your choice.

this world is in terrible doo doo. And people don't give a fat xxxxx about the help that is offered all the time from above to your governments and its so obvious. what is so Hard about the concept of massive craft in the sky????? Where are your minds?????? The creation is huge and many have gone trillions of years before earth in their knowing and technology. Most of you here are imprisoned galactic thugs and surely you CaN REMEMBER galactic life, can you not?

When Michael of Nebadon came as Jesus 2000 years ago, he was offering his hand at the last change for you ones to earn your way out of this prison. some of you have had 1000 or more lifetimes on this world since the Lucifer rebellion. there are 10 billion galactic prisoners here, obviously not all incarnate at this time. can't you ones remember your past and create a NEW FUTURE??????

Below is a pic of the sun from March. Take a look at the massive craft around it. Don't you want your galactic lives back??? And to the others here who are serving incarnate from the highest realms of heaven at this time, its also time to remember from whence you came. That in fact is a HUGE ROLE of MINE, to wake up you ones who came to serve, for you are lost in the propaganda also!!!!!

Michael of Nebadon does not let the prisoners off a world until they have earned it. PERIOD. this world is going to be ascended. You can do nothing about that. If you do NOT choose to come back into the divine realms, you will be living thousands of lives on some other prison world until you do. you have eternity after all to choose heaven or hell. this is hell here. It is going to become heaven. GAIA has had enough. We are in the energies of the Mikly way now, the end of the long great cycle, and MOMMA earth gets to move up, and those who don't wish to move with her, get to move to other prison worlds. that is how it works and you cannot change one iota of that.

Now those who are STAR SEED from Heaven, its time to put down your silly games and wake up and get into service. :peace on earth:

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ET emmissary made this statement to my post above: sorry.. but you are NOT getting that information & experiences from the benevolent ETs that are assisting earth now...

* Reminder *
you are being used to spread Fear/Lies/Disinformation by the 'manipulators' who masquerade as love & light...

Proof:

- 100% L.A. sinking under the sea 2 years ago ...

- 100% Tonga earthquake a year ago ...

- 100% 'Announcements' by the end of 2010 or beginning of 2011 ...

- New Madrid earthquake ...

- Jupiter ignition ...

- The 'Wave' ...

(There are many more Lies, these are just some of the major ones)


My answer: ET, you have no taken one step in my shoes. You have not attended in any way what I do. You thus have no right to chase me all over here, except by your free will service to the thugs, by your fruits. Jupiter ignition happened. there is proof and I suggest you watch the video to which I commented. Plus once again, the NaSa video of March 2009. we have been thru this lap of the wave. the others are warnings of what is to come. We do this to attempt to attain cooperation of the government before hand. It has not worked. We do it for the readers that they might have time to change of where they live. They usually don't. the signs are everywhere. Man choose to be dumb for the most part. It's sad to watch. When the new madrid goes, because of man's pipelines, when the gulf of Mexico goes, the planet will have to be put into immediate stasis, or actually just before, because there will be a lake of fire.

Announcements are dependent on the condition of man and government. They will come, unless we let the planet roll over and walk away. The thugs of earth had a massive over reaction to the plans starting late last fall, and it was needed to back off for a bit. You obviously do not sit on the councils overseeing this project and would seem to be incapable of rational evaluation of the situations that come forth. So be it, because you will answer to your willful iniquity. It is universal law.
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By OP of the thread I am working from: We have been watching this all weekend at the cottage. Full moon here and with the telescope Orion Skyquest 8 my wife and I looked at the MOON JUPITER and THIS OBJECT last night.

It pulses and changes colour. We both assumed its the SUPERNOVA.

From our cottage Jupiter is in the EAST and this object is NORTH EAST in the sky.

ME: Jupiter in denver rises initially northeast, and it rose more north east than the sky program said it should, and then moves south as the earth tilt changes until it is east.

The other star which I have observed here for years in the North east is also a craft. Anything that pulses light up there with changing colors is a craft. PERIOD. NOT SUPER NOVAS. People you must awaken to how it is. I don't know why some of you have so much trouble accepting these are massive craft from Heaven here, because the earth is in an awfully lot of doo doo. Please do not create BLING because you cannot accept the obvious.
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quote by DINO: She's nuts. She's not a troll. She's not a shill. She's just crazy.

On one of the Phoenix Journal sites it came out that her daughter had her committed several times in the 90s, which led to her finally getting put on disability. She watches too many reruns of Star Trek, then thinks that whatever she daydreams up is channeled from some alien civilization that's somehow tied in with religion.

As you can read for yourself, she swears up and down that Jupiter was turned into a star but that people can't see it in telescopes because Starfleet blocked it with holograms. Then there was something about Venus being replaced with a spaceship and another spaceship being put in Jupiter's old orbit.

It wouldn't be so bad if she wasn't such an insufferable know-it-all, when it's apparent that she couldn't pour piss out of a boot with the directions on the heel.

Like she says in her sig, google "Candace Frieze".


ME: where the fuck did you get that! I have never been committed anywhere. That is a complete made up story by somebody. Please post the link! I don't watch any re runs of star trek, haven't in many many years. that jupiter is a star has been shown by NASA>. NOW GO PUT UP THE LINK if you are claiming someone posted this on a PJ site???

My disability is from my MS and arthritis. And exactly NO statements of mental instability anywhere on it. My mind works quite well.

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Venus is will be the evening star shortly. It is now rising after the sun, which means it will be visible after the sun sets in the west before much longer. when it rises before the sun, its the morning star, when it rises after the sun, its the evening star. not hard to figure out.

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quote by Eternal Prisoner: What the hell is wrong with you? You are the weirdest person ever. The only thing obvious about all the crap you spew is you are a total nut job. You troll around this site and ruin thread after thread of with all your know it all, fantasy b.s. Try sticking to your own threads and leave other threads alone. Beam me up, Scotty.

ME: Nothing is the hell wrong with me. I am partnered with the returning Jesus and abundanthope is OUR 2nd coming organization just as I say it is. It is you that has the problem about this. I have ruined no threads. I tell the WHAT IS, otherwise known as the TRUTH. This is the end of the age and this planet seriously needs the education. And it will continue to be given. One way or another. the thugs have bashed every single project the ones you know as Jesus (michael of Nebadon and Esu Immanuel), have created on this world since the return in 1954, You do your homework and you won't need to bash me.

Avatars are always considered weirdo's, it comes with the job description on shill is a shills. Just as Jesus was crucified in a terrible manner, the folks of earth have continued to do in all the messengers since pretty much. There has been infiltration in the Urantia book project, into the Phoenix Journal project, into Dolores Cannons work, In to www.Monjoronson.com, the Teaching Mission et all. Attempts are made at my work and we have sent many packing who came in false service. My organization stands uncorrupted and I intend to keep it that way.

This solar system and this world are going to change, are changing for various reasons, and we ever try to give the truth about it, and ones such as several here will chase me around and bash it. It will go on nevertheless. This is the time of the sorting at the end of the age before the new age begins

Those who continue in inequity with the black brotherhoods will face the courts of Nebadon. Darkness is going to be completely removed from this planet. so be it .

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Star of Bethlehem heralding Jesus second coming?
 Quoting: Good news everyone!


Hardly, the star of bethlehem 2000 years ago was NIbiru and its NOT DUE HERE NOW. But certainly the star ship Jupiter and other star ships can be "brightened" up to get attention. A good time to brighten Star ship Jupiter, it was lovely last night. hf

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Sirius Star Ship is not yet out in the late evening. It is always in the evening hours starting in late November I think, more or less over the HOliday season of the Us of a. I just went to my sky program, it will start to rise about december 3rd where I live at about 10 pm. Denver Colorado

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quote of Disaster Inc. NIP--look, I'm not trying to be an asshole and I am not a "thug". I have a beautiful family, two sons and a wife, I don't take advantage of people, I'm a nice guy, and all is peaches.

Most of us on GLP have a lot of thoughts, beliefs, theories, and whatever that the majority of people in the world would simply and quickly write off as "nuts".

I'm just trying to see how you are coming to your conclusions. You have some pretty outlandish statements. BUT, you know what. I don't discount ANYTHING.

Just to show you that, my beliefs are....souls, soul fragments, physical instances (or potentially simulations) to gain experiences, call it reincarnation or whatever, with each soul having the capability of having endless simultaneous soul fragments on physical world (in endless Universes).

BUT, this is my belief and that's it. I'm sure you'll respond as fact that reincarnation or whatever is BS. Maybe YOU'RE the thug telling everyone's beliefs and faiths are BS.

Guess I'm done, I won't bother you anymore.

Peace.


Me: I am not bothered. there is reincarnation on this planet because its a prison ward is all, its considerably less normal on normal planets. My response was about the big pile of poop. we all have our favorites here regards smiley use, I didn't feel a giant pile of poop was called for. Everyone has a different belief on this world which range the full gamat and allows people to hate each other, even within the same religions, towns , families. In a way this is good, not the hate, but people have to start thinking for themselves and not following everything. I request no followers by the way, its not my thing.

I am encouraging people to become SOVEREIGN, which requires no following. each person as the soul grows must learn to take responsibility for all they create, but first they have to learn every thing they think or do IS a creative act, even if they do in following. this is what makes the human mind different from the animal, the creating. Animals don't create IN Advance of actions.

The minute that happens in an animal, here comes a Father Fragment in fact and they are then baby humans if you will. it is happening. The animal thus steps outside its "box." I had one that dreamed of having hands and becoming a "people" as she stated it, and here came her Father fragment not long afterwards and she even knew she was going to become a people!

these lower seed planets groom beginning humans. but we have here also thugs who use their minds in terrible ways.

I am not the thug and you aren't either. but this is the time also in this ending age where people have to get off the fence and seek goodness or badness. thus the fence sitters that tend towards badness, have to go all the way, or give it up and turn good. No fence sitting. One or the other. One is either seeking controlling power over others, or seeking cooperation with Goodness.

I did take the large poop as an insult. People send me insults all the time. so large poop is seen by me as such.

I am glad for the discussion however, and wish you well. You did provide me a platform which I used.

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quote from Eternal Visitor: Well, You are the most disrespectful person on this site and you claim your a star seed light worker in a close personal relationship with the one many consider to be their god. Do you have any pictures with Jesus when he came to your house? Cause it may be that the thing showing up in the eastern sky is the christ returning, not a person.

Me: the thing in the sky is not the christ returning, he is NOT floating as a craft in the sky. I am trying to assist people into an understanding of GOD. They need to LOOK INSIDE. There are God's who are managers and bosses, yes. But that is not the FATHER WITHIN. I have never in all my own long eternal journey seen such a Utterally confused planet as this one about God and the Creation and teh Christ. CHRIST is a state of being, there are MANY Christs in the Creation, uncountable pretty much.

When the bible says he is coming in power on the clouds or whatever ever it currently states, CLOUDSHIP was left out on purpose by the thugs. And the statement as made 2000 years ago did mean MANY CRAFT, because there was the probable intent then to evacuate the planet, so she could ascend. there is so much crap circulating now that people would not board the very crafts that will take them out of the axis shift or whatever might be going on to cause the evacuation.

And they had to show up early because unless the body of the person choosing God is prepared, the person cannot go in body into the beams. They have to work on people at night completely in secrecy because of the fear the black brothers have created. The body has to be prepared to ride a beam into the craft. If not, the soul can go, but the person minus their body is going to miss a huge experience. Jesus (christ) is the commander if you wish of this whole thing. His purpose has long been totally screwed up to the people.

I explain these things and people tell me they will wait for the "real jesus". how sad is that?

So if Star Ship Jupiter is the Christ returning, how does that benefit anyone? How does that work, what does that accomplish? I had chosen on purpose NOT to fully take on that comment.

I still find people who believe he will come on a white horse, or a white light and take them off to heaven. They don't know what heaven is that they want to ride the white horse with him too.

I see images on many christian websites where people have been groomed about the false rapture. they show them rising up into the sky, but into what????? Heaven is not the sky. Then some believe when the rapture happens their body goes off to heaven naked and their clothes are left behind. Only people who believe in pure magic can believe this stuff.
OK now that I have one that will post, here is a typical image on many christian websites. :rapture minus cr:

The rapture is the evacuation of the planet when and if it becomes necessary. ufo56ufo56ufo56ufo56ufo56ufo56ufo56ufo56ufo56ufo56ufo56ufo56ufo56ufo56ufo56


this is HOW it will look. There will be white lighted mother ships in the east as a sign. That is all. If this happens and those appear above, PLEASE board the craft. Time will be of the essence. because in an axis shift the volcanism happens so fast, they have only at most an hour to get people off.

HEAVEn and GOD are NOT mysterious. But the thugs of this word have deliberately created these stories and it's time for you ones to THINK and become rational. If nothing else you need to be for your children, if not yourselves.

the creation is ancient. The angels were the first followed by the evolution of mind thru the plants and animals. In the end their is no difference, the eternal journey is wondrous and the whole the creation has to offer is before you for your taking and study.

There are evacuation Mother craft out there in the solar system that are 8000 MILES long. You will be shuttled to them. and you know, there are a lot of folks because of the silly stories who will not board the craft or they will run and get pictures and jewelry and heaven only knows what else. And miss their ride out of here.

Because people on this planet have refused to THINK, we have had to make all sorts of other plans, because during the BIG wave, the axis shift and the pole reversal the planet must be emptied. And so we have devised sneaking ways to do that. Otherwise the so called harvest is going to be awfully small, and billions will miss their rides off the place.

As to harvest, this is also a time of sorting, a special time because GAIa is making her own ascension and her body must change and the changes will be massive. folks who are dark, or simply immature will not be able to stay here and the plans of other places for them have been very well made where they can continue their eternal journey, where they are at. There are many planets to take refugees from earth and educate them in REALITY. This is a fairy tale world, completely.

some are still waiting for an antichirst person, and there are so many antichrists already. All these lies have made people of earth the people of the lie. YOU CAN THINK BETTER THAN THIS, IF YOU ONES wish to do so. DESIRE is of HUman, and its lacking. everyone just wants to be rescued by Jesus and go to a heaven that is NOT understood.

DID I POST my links to the craft around the sun, with the story that perhaps, in the process of becoming like the father and knowing all things, that one might even for a time in their eternal career experience on the BIG PUPPIES?

What do you wish to do for your eternal life of trillions of years? NOW PUT ON THE THINKING CAPS because you litterally have a thinking cap, the Father Fragment that is part of your mind. YOu must start listening within.

I don't give a FF if you ones like what I say or not. It is your choice. I do this because of my genuine concern for people. You have been so defrauded. OK. red_heartred_heartred_heartred_heartred_heartred_heartred_heartred_heartred_heartred_heart
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Well NIP, you have made this much easier for me. Now I don't have to post this in many different threads.

I have been mostly watching what you all are saying about the "strangeness" you all are FINALLY noticing in our skies. Took y'all long enough . . . . but I digress.

Now I know I'm gonna take some flack from those of closed mind and eyes but I know my eyes and what I see. I've been a sky watcher for MANY years now and started noticing things back in 2001 or there abouts . . .

You see folks I suffer from a genetic eye condition. That's right a gift from a parent. Right now it is in the first stage. If I am lucky it won't progress any further and I can live with that. But this first stage is called "guttata". It is when the underside of your cornea is "pebbled" not smooth. When light, wait, ARTIFICIAL LIGHT, hits my eyes it has a "sparkler" effect. Close lights are ok, but lights at any distance look like sparklers to me. . . sparklers of all sizes. Makes night driving almost impossible.

OK. Now the moon doesn't look like a sparkler because the moon is reflected NATURAL light from the sun. And I don't care who you are the Sun IS one giant sparkler!!! But the STARS are a whole different ballgame . . .

When I look at the night sky my eyes differentiate between the natural light and the artificial light. And I can tell you folks, THERE IS A WHOLE HELL OF A LOT OF ARTIFICIAL LIGHT UP THERE!! Sure I see natural light from many distant stars, their light is steady and "still". But my night sky is also full of twinkling, blinking, sparklers!! Sparklers that change color too. I see blue and white sparklers, red and white sparklers, and red, white and blue sparklers!! No, none in the shape of any flag . . . And yes I can definitely tell the difference between stars and planes. Even a child can do that . .


Sooo, as far as I am concerned we have a whole lot of company in our skies . . . some nights it looks like a party is going on and I was invited to come out and watch the show. I have on occasion pulled out the binoculars and tried to get a closer look. From all I've ever been told stars don't change colors back and forth. Neither do planets. Makes perfect sense to me. So why do I see pulsing colors from these celestial bodies??? Must be cause they're not!! So that pretty much narrows the field for what is out there. And since I am sure that tptb are too selfish and self centered to spend all their stolen booty on decorating our skies with pretty sparklers that leaves just one option. . . . .

In the famous words of the Wheel of Fortune announcer . . . .

CELESTIAL BROTHERS & SISTERS C'MON DOWN!!!!


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Thank you for posting the Melchizedek channeling!

I channeled Mechizedek until 6 years ago when I started having symptoms of MS. The energy was just too heavy for me. However, this has helped me to realize what I need to do to get off my rear, so thanks so much.

I'm not sure if I'm whining or my impatience is about me not having certain things that are tangible. My distress comes from not having the relationships and the joy in my life that comes with sharing with loved ones and friends. I feel like I am in a constant state of mourning for the relationships I've lost or that have changed so drastically.

Even still there is something in the message with this too. Time is short and there is no time for crying and whining, just time to do.

Thank you!
Namaste
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Well NIP, you have made this much easier for me. Now I don't have to post this in many different threads.

I have been mostly watching what you all are saying about the "strangeness" you all are FINALLY noticing in our skies. Took y'all long enough . . . . but I digress.

Now I know I'm gonna take some flack from those of closed mind and eyes but I know my eyes and what I see. I've been a sky watcher for MANY years now and started noticing things back in 2001 or there abouts . . .

You see folks I suffer from a genetic eye condition. That's right a gift from a parent. Right now it is in the first stage. If I am lucky it won't progress any further and I can live with that. But this first stage is called "guttata". It is when the underside of your cornea is "pebbled" not smooth. When light, wait, ARTIFICIAL LIGHT, hits my eyes it has a "sparkler" effect. Close lights are ok, but lights at any distance look like sparklers to me. . . sparklers of all sizes. Makes night driving almost impossible.

OK. Now the moon doesn't look like a sparkler because the moon is reflected NATURAL light from the sun. And I don't care who you are the Sun IS one giant sparkler!!! But the STARS are a whole different ballgame . . .

When I look at the night sky my eyes differentiate between the natural light and the artificial light. And I can tell you folks, THERE IS A WHOLE HELL OF A LOT OF ARTIFICIAL LIGHT UP THERE!! Sure I see natural light from many distant stars, their light is steady and "still". But my night sky is also full of twinkling, blinking, sparklers!! Sparklers that change color too. I see blue and white sparklers, red and white sparklers, and red, white and blue sparklers!! No, none in the shape of any flag . . . And yes I can definitely tell the difference between stars and planes. Even a child can do that . .


Sooo, as far as I am concerned we have a whole lot of company in our skies . . . some nights it looks like a party is going on and I was invited to come out and watch the show. I have on occasion pulled out the binoculars and tried to get a closer look. From all I've ever been told stars don't change colors back and forth. Neither do planets. Makes perfect sense to me. So why do I see pulsing colors from these celestial bodies??? Must be cause they're not!! So that pretty much narrows the field for what is out there. And since I am sure that tptb are too selfish and self centered to spend all their stolen booty on decorating our skies with pretty sparklers that leaves just one option. . . . .

In the famous words of the Wheel of Fortune announcer . . . .

CELESTIAL BROTHERS & SISTERS C'MON DOWN!!!!


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Nice! Same here. Alot of optic neuritis but I sure can see the colors and sparkle. With ON and other issues with my eye problems, minimal contrast is a problem. However, when those lights start changing colors in the night sky, I have no problem seeing them.

So, I am in agreement. Come on down. I personally am waiting for Sirius, however.
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Thank you for posting the Melchizedek channeling!

I channeled Mechizedek until 6 years ago when I started having symptoms of MS. The energy was just too heavy for me. However, this has helped me to realize what I need to do to get off my rear, so thanks so much.

I'm not sure if I'm whining or my impatience is about me not having certain things that are tangible. My distress comes from not having the relationships and the joy in my life that comes with sharing with loved ones and friends. I feel like I am in a constant state of mourning for the relationships I've lost or that have changed so drastically.

Even still there is something in the message with this too. Time is short and there is no time for crying and whining, just time to do.

Thank you!
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Ditto for me. My loved ones are now mostly those that are on my team. And I don't complain there, but I grieve terribly sometimes in this loneliness, but I cannot "backtrack" to my former ways, nor would it be accepted either. Try to telepath a bit more with those above, maybe just shorter discussions. It does sap the energy. You can also request a circuit, which use causes LESS energy depletion. If you are trusted that could happen, and state WHY you want it, if not to do public channeling, just for the companionship. :blooming rose:
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Well NIP, you have made this much easier for me. Now I don't have to post this in many different threads.

I have been mostly watching what you all are saying about the "strangeness" you all are FINALLY noticing in our skies. Took y'all long enough . . . . but I digress.

Now I know I'm gonna take some flack from those of closed mind and eyes but I know my eyes and what I see. I've been a sky watcher for MANY years now and started noticing things back in 2001 or there abouts . . .

You see folks I suffer from a genetic eye condition. That's right a gift from a parent. Right now it is in the first stage. If I am lucky it won't progress any further and I can live with that. But this first stage is called "guttata". It is when the underside of your cornea is "pebbled" not smooth. When light, wait, ARTIFICIAL LIGHT, hits my eyes it has a "sparkler" effect. Close lights are ok, but lights at any distance look like sparklers to me. . . sparklers of all sizes. Makes night driving almost impossible.

OK. Now the moon doesn't look like a sparkler because the moon is reflected NATURAL light from the sun. And I don't care who you are the Sun IS one giant sparkler!!! But the STARS are a whole different ballgame . . .

When I look at the night sky my eyes differentiate between the natural light and the artificial light. And I can tell you folks, THERE IS A WHOLE HELL OF A LOT OF ARTIFICIAL LIGHT UP THERE!! Sure I see natural light from many distant stars, their light is steady and "still". But my night sky is also full of twinkling, blinking, sparklers!! Sparklers that change color too. I see blue and white sparklers, red and white sparklers, and red, white and blue sparklers!! No, none in the shape of any flag . . . And yes I can definitely tell the difference between stars and planes. Even a child can do that . .


Sooo, as far as I am concerned we have a whole lot of company in our skies . . . some nights it looks like a party is going on and I was invited to come out and watch the show. I have on occasion pulled out the binoculars and tried to get a closer look. From all I've ever been told stars don't change colors back and forth. Neither do planets. Makes perfect sense to me. So why do I see pulsing colors from these celestial bodies??? Must be cause they're not!! So that pretty much narrows the field for what is out there. And since I am sure that tptb are too selfish and self centered to spend all their stolen booty on decorating our skies with pretty sparklers that leaves just one option. . . . .

In the famous words of the Wheel of Fortune announcer . . . .

CELESTIAL BROTHERS & SISTERS C'MON DOWN!!!!


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Ok West Tx, is Jupiter a natural light or an artificial one? hf
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Well NIP, you have made this much easier for me. Now I don't have to post this in many different threads.

I have been mostly watching what you all are saying about the "strangeness" you all are FINALLY noticing in our skies. Took y'all long enough . . . . but I digress.

Now I know I'm gonna take some flack from those of closed mind and eyes but I know my eyes and what I see. I've been a sky watcher for MANY years now and started noticing things back in 2001 or there abouts . . .

You see folks I suffer from a genetic eye condition. That's right a gift from a parent. Right now it is in the first stage. If I am lucky it won't progress any further and I can live with that. But this first stage is called "guttata". It is when the underside of your cornea is "pebbled" not smooth. When light, wait, ARTIFICIAL LIGHT, hits my eyes it has a "sparkler" effect. Close lights are ok, but lights at any distance look like sparklers to me. . . sparklers of all sizes. Makes night driving almost impossible.

OK. Now the moon doesn't look like a sparkler because the moon is reflected NATURAL light from the sun. And I don't care who you are the Sun IS one giant sparkler!!! But the STARS are a whole different ballgame . . .

When I look at the night sky my eyes differentiate between the natural light and the artificial light. And I can tell you folks, THERE IS A WHOLE HELL OF A LOT OF ARTIFICIAL LIGHT UP THERE!! Sure I see natural light from many distant stars, their light is steady and "still". But my night sky is also full of twinkling, blinking, sparklers!! Sparklers that change color too. I see blue and white sparklers, red and white sparklers, and red, white and blue sparklers!! No, none in the shape of any flag . . . And yes I can definitely tell the difference between stars and planes. Even a child can do that . .


Sooo, as far as I am concerned we have a whole lot of company in our skies . . . some nights it looks like a party is going on and I was invited to come out and watch the show. I have on occasion pulled out the binoculars and tried to get a closer look. From all I've ever been told stars don't change colors back and forth. Neither do planets. Makes perfect sense to me. So why do I see pulsing colors from these celestial bodies??? Must be cause they're not!! So that pretty much narrows the field for what is out there. And since I am sure that tptb are too selfish and self centered to spend all their stolen booty on decorating our skies with pretty sparklers that leaves just one option. . . . .

In the famous words of the Wheel of Fortune announcer . . . .

CELESTIAL BROTHERS & SISTERS C'MON DOWN!!!!


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Ok West Tx, is Jupiter a natural light or an artificial one? hf
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Jupiter . . . . ARTIFICIAL DEFINITELY!!!!!alienshipalienshipalienshippeace
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Thank you for posting the Melchizedek channeling!

I channeled Mechizedek until 6 years ago when I started having symptoms of MS. The energy was just too heavy for me. However, this has helped me to realize what I need to do to get off my rear, so thanks so much.

I'm not sure if I'm whining or my impatience is about me not having certain things that are tangible. My distress comes from not having the relationships and the joy in my life that comes with sharing with loved ones and friends. I feel like I am in a constant state of mourning for the relationships I've lost or that have changed so drastically.

Even still there is something in the message with this too. Time is short and there is no time for crying and whining, just time to do.

Thank you!
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Ditto for me. My loved ones are now mostly those that are on my team. And I don't complain there, but I grieve terribly sometimes in this loneliness, but I cannot "backtrack" to my former ways, nor would it be accepted either. Try to telepath a bit more with those above, maybe just shorter discussions. It does sap the energy. You can also request a circuit, which use causes LESS energy depletion. If you are trusted that could happen, and state WHY you want it, if not to do public channeling, just for the companionship. :blooming rose:
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Thank you! I'll try the request for a circuit and let you know how that turns out. Thank you for the advice.

And Candice....we may mourn for the relationships we've lost, but we could look at the new relationships we develop. Thanks for helping me out. It warms my heart. Thanks also for helping me with my perspective. We are all in this together. I'll let you know how it goes.

In Light...Namaste.
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Hi everyone, there have been questions and requests in two different threads recently, so I am starting a thread in my name to address those readers and anyone else interested. The reason is I get tired of repeating the story and it need to be in one place and then I can link to it.

Thread: Three Class M Flares in the past 6 hours! this is one thread and I will copy some posts into it based on a promise I made. I will pick up with Jupiter, that eastern star after the thread above is copied and link given in it to here.

So heres some posts related to craft from this thread and next post I will collect the others related. Mine posts are in blue, others in black. I have removed the repeated duplication of quotes here.

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You are the best! Thank you for educating, rather than trashing me. People can learn from your civility!
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Here's a "fun" image if you are up to it. Craft shooting a beam into the sun. nasa will erase it in a couple days likely. I have not asked what they are doing tonight, but they can kill sunspots, make sunspots, create CME's and Coronal holes and shut up the coronal holes. They can also reduce the effects of a CME hitting earth if they think it wise. Mentioning this because this stuff is what heaven, and eternal life are about. One day some of you during your life eternal might be on one of these massive craft, remodeling suns and other projects. hf

[link to stereo.gsfc.nasa.gov]



Here's an image from last March when they were really busy. :Craft on Stereo :


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It does not appear that they have very good aim

hmm its a 2d image so its a little hard to determine what is being hit, and it may be the corona needing some adjusting. actually, if you right click to enlarge the image to its full size, there is a little + where it may or may not have made contact.

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You would also need a seriously insulated craft, or be multi-dimensional to withstand the heat that close to the sun. So how do they get so close?

technology. and the sun really isn't quite as hot as man thinks it must be. Space is cold in fact. the heat we feel from the sun is because of our atmosphere and its energy reactions to the sun, plus the heat within the planet. The craft are semi physical and have their own energy shielding technologies which can flow the heat around them.

these craft are not from other evolutionary planets like earth. These are owned by the superuniverse government. (milky Way is the core of our superuniverse.)


That actually makes sense now that you say it. Kind of fits with the Electric/Magnetics everywhere. It is not heat between the Sun and Earth, it just develops into heat when it gets here. Can we do something about winter? I really don't like cold weather... Where are "they" from? Not playing either, maybe a little sarcastic, but I do believe anything is possible. I do want to make winter warmer, because I really do hate it.

As to winter, when the planet AND HER PEOPLE makes her ascension into monopolarity, her body will not be tilted anymore. The planet will be straight up and down, which in and off itself will cancel a lot of winter, and the state of monopolarity will change the physics further changing the weather.

They are not from normal planets, they are from the superuniverse worlds. These craft are owned by the superuniverse government. Those that man the craft are a mix of angels and advanced man.


So how soon do we get to join in on the fun? Cause I am getting really tired of the things that are going on in this "non-advanced" world that we are currently in...

well if you are tired of this world, and want the fun, you are probably from "heaven" already and so at some point you will drop your earth body and resume your prior experience. If you are staying with the ascending planet, you may well get a lot of fun during the long stasis which will last several years.

Thankyou for making the post because the life eternal is FUN, and I am trying to get that point across when I have opportunity, like the craft shooting the sun, these are the sorts of things you engage in during your life Eternal. You will be taught EVERYTHING and enjoy so much interaction with other worlds and races. There are exactly NO LIMITS on what you may experience and attain.


I don't want to steal away from OPS Thread, but you have me very curious. What do you mean by "long stasis"? Please explain further. I have a young family and feel as though I am going to live at least a 100 years or so, still have 60'ish or more to go. I feel the need to protect and teach them. Are things going to change drastically here? Your edit jumped into my reply so I will jump with something I feel. I think we already know EVERYTHING, we just don't remember it. As we learn, we are just unlocking what we already know. We are not learning, we are remembering... Thoughts and feedback, please and thank you!

as to "heaven" these are worlds being custom built in a nebula in the first painting below. These are HEAVEN WORLDS, custom made and you will all live on many of them. When I mention that the superuniverse government owns these large special purpose craft, the creation is governed and PLANNED. These sphere worlds as the artist is calling range from around the size of earth to hundreds of times the size of earth They are all high technology worlds as to their heating and everything else about them.

this artist has amazing memories of his past experience and knowing. [link to antifan-real.deviantart.com]

You ones might much enjoy his gallery of art. Here is the main link. [link to antifan-real.deviantart.com] He has a private site also but there is no descriptions of his work on it.

This artist has made a painting of a huge craft under construction.

[link to phoenix-06.deviantart.com]


well as to the purpose of OP's thread, I think its kind of done and hopefully OP has taken an interest in this discussion.

Well if you feel you are to be long lived, I suggest perhaps you are here for this whole process the earth is going to go thru. I have committed actually to about 1000 years walking the planet, but I get a refreshed new body to do it in.

As to the stasis, the planet must go thru some big earth changes,its part of her own ascension. GAIA is a intelligent being in her own right, and her body has to change for a variety of beings. I mentioned at some point in the future, the tilt will be straight up and down, and this requires a remodeling so that the land masses are evenly distributed around the planet. Right now the land mass is much larger on the top half of her body. And the pacific ocean huge etc. New lands will come up, others will sink. this is obviously not a quick process but a significant part will be done during the stasis.

Stasis means to put the life into a sleep state, as to matter. the animals could not other wise live during the process because there will be a significant axis shit (makes a new equator) and a magnetic reversal, (sun comes up in the west). there will be huge volcanism. The time is nearly here.

those of you incarnate from the higher realms/planets DO know everything. And all can be revealed to you anyway, in all that have a Father Fragment, which is a portal to all knowledge plus a substantial source of knowledge itself. This is not the night to detail that, I have to go bed, I have a trip to craft for yet another meeting tonight. And I am just recovering from the 4 hour one last night.



Some folks will be moved to new places during that time, as there are too many here to continue on. About 1 billion will be returning after the stasis. There are millions of craft here or nearby that will make this possible from a technology stand point. Since you are around 40, you were here when the planet was put into stasis for a week, as to the human and higher animal life. So you have been there and done that already on a limited basis. That was when the sun entered the photon belt and man was not prepared and there would have been great damage to vision. so we all 'slept" thru it.

Stay close to your family, they are likely playing this same game with you. Do not worry about these words because there is a coming teaching period that will last many weeks to prepare the global populace for all that is coming.


More questions? Seriously? Absolutely! "Nobody in Particular"? Is this the ego shedding thing? Cannot draw attention, but if questions come to you... I would like to know your religion or spiritual beliefs before we move forward. Many things you say make sense, but I have to sort EVERYTHING out for myself to be satisfied. The puzzle pieces have to fit snuggly:) I am 43, do I still fit the miniature stasis? My wife won't go here, "It is what it is, it will be what it is suppose to be" to her. The kids are so freaking smart it scares me! I can mention some of this stuff and they finish the next sentence for me! I truly appreciate your knowledge and vision.
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Government...

Why Not GOVERN instead of I Ment to Govern...

Everyone With Any Intelligence Knows that "Goverment"

Is Code for Template Of The Beast Of Revelations

As In The Machine of The Beast.

There IS no SUPERUNIVERSE.

I've Fought These Things, You Can Melt their Crafts

With the Correct Prayer and Ninjitsu... Study The Shaman

They Do This For Kicks. YHWH Be Cooking Them Space Cookies

You Know it, lol

Now Time For REAL SCIENCE

Galaxies are Formed By The Emenation and AURA/Presence

Of Archtype Spirits.

When These Spirits Group Togethor For Genesis

What Forms from it are Called UNIVERSES.

NOW, This Has NOT happened In Some Time...

The Milky Way Is The Last Galaxy Left

And Earth Is The Last STAND.

Everyone Else Lives on Things Called WORLDS.

Which Are Fed To The Beast in Masssive Machine Like

Cullings, Those Who Take The Mark of The Beast

Are Lost and Become The Beast.

They Then Spread to Other Worlds/Realms

(There still be Realms and Dimensions Left but not enough strenght to Matter)

As in Matterialize.

They Use Mystery Babylon To Ensure Their Success...

It Looks Like... A Spirit... Holographic MOON.

With Many Closed Eyes.

They Do Not Open Anymore... but what it Does

Is... Strengthen all their Operatives...

Their Merchants, Soldiers, Lying Politicians and Assassins.

It's Like This... If You Break your Bone Safely in a Million

Places Every Hour of Every Day... Your Bones Become Unbreakable... It Can Teleport Things and Crazy Crazy Shit.

It Can literally... Demateralyze... Abuct People

And Then Sluaghter Them For Their Blood.

You Will Not Feel It Leaving You until it is Too Late.

That Is What AIDS IS. it's Replaced With AUTOGENES

Which are Scary Scary SHIT, see THE THING.

That be a DART they Shot at Earth with an Archon inside

Made of Autogenes... (The New One... The Old One... is n)

That's What Causes The Red Lessions...

They Can Then Activate The Autogenes... to Kill and Devour.

They Have NO LIFE, Literally... So They Use TARES and

Organic Portals, EVERYWHERE They Can

These Then STEAL Life From Living People Perpetually

Everywhere They Go, They are Just Automated Devices

Using Portal Technology... Organic (Barely)

Mystery Babylon Then Harvests The WINE From The Blood

So That You Feel Emotions from These Things...

Other Wise You Would Spot them in a second and WANT

TO KILL THEM ALL.

As All You Would Feel would Be a Blaring Vile Hole

Void Sucking Your Life Away and Ripping Your Emenation

To Shreds.

The Reason The GOVERMENT And The False Masons

Fear The SPIDER is Because it Wove a WEB

That Destroys Their INT NET, which are like WIRES

They Shoot into People to Abduct them... thats What

DON"T GO INTO THE LIGHT MEANS.

THey Will Slaughter You in Mystery Babylon, Wipe You

Put you in a TARE Body and Send you to a World

With NO Way Off.

The SPIDER is on EARTH and The Web STEALS These People

Back to Earth and Stop the life, the blood and our torn

Emenations from FEEDING the BEAST.

It Puts them back together and Sends them back Home.

Goverment Owned Space Crafts? I don't know about you

But that DOES NOT SOUND ALL HUNKY DORRY CHEERFUL To me...

That Be The Army of The Beast.
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And Somewhat Slightly Smashed
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i just woke up but i still have no time to participate on this great thread. i will do it later.
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...this is HOW it will look. There will be white lighted mother ships in the east as a sign. That is all. If this happens and those appear above, PLEASE board the craft. Time will be of the essence. because in an axis shift the volcanism happens so fast, they have only at most an hour to get people off.

HEAVEn and GOD are NOT mysterious. But the thugs of this word have deliberately created these stories and it's time for you ones to THINK and become rational. If nothing else you need to be for your children, if not yourselves.

the creation is ancient. The angels were the first followed by the evolution of mind thru the plants and animals. In the end their is no difference, the eternal journey is wondrous and the whole the creation has to offer is before you for your taking and study.

There are evacuation Mother craft out there in the solar system that are 8000 MILES long. You will be shuttled to them. and you know, there are a lot of folks because of the silly stories who will not board the craft or they will run and get pictures and jewelry and heaven only knows what else. And miss their ride out of here.....


Thank you for all you do to share knowledge Nip. I have been seeing the bright star in the east for awhile now and am glad to know that it is a starship. I will make my way to the ships as soon as I see them but I have a couple of questions which may sound silly but can I bring my two pet dogs with me? or is that not allowed. Will we be awakened if it's during the night when we are asleep? Lastly,I thought I read on a thread (maybe one of yours) awhile back that one should bring some food. Please let me know what is acceptable so I can be prepared in advance as it sounds like there will not be time to waste. Thank you again. I can hardly wait as lately I'm just sickened by the amount of hate, war and ugliness that seems to be everywhere.hf
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In the last two months I went unconscious three times for no reason ,emergency room has no answers,the last time I smashed my face good and knocked out a tooth. Stasis must be near. the white rose
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...this is HOW it will look. There will be white lighted mother ships in the east as a sign. That is all. If this happens and those appear above, PLEASE board the craft. Time will be of the essence. because in an axis shift the volcanism happens so fast, they have only at most an hour to get people off.

HEAVEn and GOD are NOT mysterious. But the thugs of this word have deliberately created these stories and it's time for you ones to THINK and become rational. If nothing else you need to be for your children, if not yourselves.

the creation is ancient. The angels were the first followed by the evolution of mind thru the plants and animals. In the end their is no difference, the eternal journey is wondrous and the whole the creation has to offer is before you for your taking and study.

There are evacuation Mother craft out there in the solar system that are 8000 MILES long. You will be shuttled to them. and you know, there are a lot of folks because of the silly stories who will not board the craft or they will run and get pictures and jewelry and heaven only knows what else. And miss their ride out of here.....


Thank you for all you do to share knowledge Nip. I have been seeing the bright star in the east for awhile now and am glad to know that it is a starship. I will make my way to the ships as soon as I see them but I have a couple of questions which may sound silly but can I bring my two pet dogs with me? or is that not allowed. Will we be awakened if it's during the night when we are asleep? Lastly,I thought I read on a thread (maybe one of yours) awhile back that one should bring some food. Please let me know what is acceptable so I can be prepared in advance as it sounds like there will not be time to waste. Thank you again. I can hardly wait as lately I'm just sickened by the amount of hate, war and ugliness that seems to be everywhere.hf
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Yes if there is evacuation, you can take your pets. They will handle the levitation beam better than people who have not been prepared in fact.
Yes you will be awakened. All ensouled beings are chipped to the New jerusalem computers which thus always know where you are. You do not bring food, clothing or anything. Just you the kids if home and your animals. Time is of the essence. If somebody posted you needed food or anything else, that is wrong. there will be people who miss their rides while they run to collect pictures and all that stuff.

do not worry if kids are at school or elsewhere. you will be reunited, its all in their computers.
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and if we miss our rides does it really matter anyway since we exist in the spirit?
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I am OK.....I know that my kiddo is fine if he is away from me! He spends a lot of time with Grandpa and knows that he is to go to the ship if he sees it! I just wonder how I am going to round up 4 crazy cats!!!! LOL!
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and if we miss our rides does it really matter anyway since we exist in the spirit?
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for some yes, but bedtime is calling and I will work on that question later.
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and if we miss our rides does it really matter anyway since we exist in the spirit?
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for some yes, but bedtime is calling and I will work on that question later.
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I'll guess the answer and see how I do ...

I think those who no longer need these physical bodies wouldn't be greatly inconvenienced, as they would shed this nasty chemical suit anyway when leaving the planet or soon thereafter. But some will be expected to have their bodies, or they'll have to be issued new ones with some inconvenience.

Those would be anyone who will use the physical bodies back upon earth after statis, whether starseed, someone likely to ascend with Earth, or someone destined for an experience on another planet who is not ascending at this time.

Or if we're talking about the "big one" where the statis involves the transition of the planet, and only those ascending with earth return here later, then it's those ascending who would have use for the bodies and would experience inconvenience if they lost them. Also starseeds who will stay here or a while. Others, whether going to other planets or back to a nicer more advanced lifestyle, would not need the old earth bodies anyway.