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We Are Not From The Milky Way Galaxy/ Scientists Prove We're Part Of A Galaxy Merging With The Milky Way!

 
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I've Never Read anything about this before. It blew my mind. . . A whole new way to look at things!

[link to viewzone2.com]
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I have read about this in 2003. The Sagittarius Dwarf galaxy had been missed because it was visible only in the infarred.

I was not aware for sure that we are Sagittarians instead of Milkywayians, but it does make sense. This is interesting because if true, it could be the first time entering the Milky way ecliptic. The filament connecting our sun with the Milkyway galactic center (birkeland currents) will be going from a lower potential Galaxy to the higher potential of the Milkyway with unknown results.


I wounder why there hasent been more information on this item??????
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Good find OP! This is another piece of the puzzle on what and why 2012 may be an interesting year.....
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Interesting.

It's quite something that they use the verbs, "invading," and "eating," when referring to these galactic interactions.
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Original Quoted Discovery Gateway/ Source to Viewzone article:

[link to curezone.com]

popping in for visit, taking questions : )
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Interesting.

It's quite something that they use the verbs, "invading," and "eating," when referring to these galactic interactions.
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indeed
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Interesting.

It's quite something that they use the verbs, "invading," and "eating," when referring to these galactic interactions.
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indeed
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I prefer "a dance of spirits"...stick around for the greatest show in 3 billion years!



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I've Never Read anything about this before. It blew my mind. . . A whole new way to look at things!

[link to viewzone2.com]
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You might enjoy this then:

PLANETOPHYSICAL STATE OF

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[link to discovermagazine.com]

[link to www.astro.caltech.edu]

Sequence of events:

Inside Scoop:

* May 30th 2006 M. Erwin saw the above new Star Map making the discovery, then personally wrote W. H. Gates III, and also officially registered with the Harvard Smithsonian Center for Astrophysics the Discovery:

The mystery of why the Milky Way has always been sideways in the night sky has never been answered until now...

We are from another galaxy in process of joining the Milky Way. ( see below-- opens the way for further discoveries: )

[link to www.astronomy.org]

One year later these two supporting funded discoveries were published in the mainstream:

SOLAR SYSTEM & MILKY WAY DOING THE SPLITS

MSNBC News Release:

[link to www.msnbc.msn.com]

SOLAR SYSTEM STARTED IN A WAY PREVIOUSLY NOT THOUGHT POSSIBLE:

In a breakthrough mainstream Science News Release, information obviating the Sagittarius Dwarf Galaxy as parent to our Solar System rather than the Milky Way Galaxy as completely plausible was released evidencing our Solar System was actually formed in a whole different elemental galactic setting -- one of Aluminum -- [Dwarf Galaxy Genesis] rather than Iron -- [Milky Way Genesis]. Breakthrough release [link] uncovers new data completely contrary to what the Sciences previously understood or even thought possible:

[link to space.newscientist.com]


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Interesting.

It's quite something that they use the verbs, "invading," and "eating," when referring to these galactic interactions.
 Quoting: SecondPrecession


indeed
 Quoting: STYLIE

I prefer "a dance of spirits"...stick around for the greatest show in 3 billion years!



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Thats kinda what I thought woulda happened to us. Like get torn apart or sometin.
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Great find. Definitely mind blowing.
Am I wrong, dude?

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we are heading into the dead center of the Milky way and merging with another system


black holes


compression



this is where the pedal hits the metal...or the journeyman/woman must pass through pillars or doors



or goals


like a soccer ball between two goalie posts...and miniaturization(compression) will be a big factor


as one passes through the gates/the guardians/the heart is known

and it best be right-imposters will not work


soulless ones will be rooted out and tossed

those manipulating DNA to mask their true selves-will be rooted out and tossed

those without love and understanding of the higher orders will be indicted by self


best appreciate whatever you have and seek to uplift others and self-no one knows how much time they have-so best use what time is before you well.

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I've Never Read anything about this before. It blew my mind. . . A whole new way to look at things!

[link to viewzone2.com]
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Awesome, ive read something similar a year ago or something.
But really cool find !

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Maybe this is why UFO/Aliens are becoming more prevalent. It's not that they're able to travel across such huge vastness of space as much as we've just come into their neighborhood? Just a thought...
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wow major bump sauce

thanks op

very interesting indeed

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This is actually total junk written by people who took a credible astronomical study and totally misrepresented it. AGAIN THIS IS TOTAL BULLSHIT. We are from the milky way.
Here is an article which does a decent job of debunking this trash, I have seen a better one but this one is definetley sufficient. [link to blogs.discovermagazine.com]

And here is the original study. [link to www.astro.virginia.edu]
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This is actually total junk written by people who took a credible astronomical study and totally misrepresented it. AGAIN THIS IS TOTAL BULLSHIT. We are from the milky way.
Here is an article which does a decent job of debunking this trash, I have seen a better one but this one is definetley sufficient. [link to blogs.discovermagazine.com]

And here is the original study. [link to www.astro.virginia.edu]
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Hmmm intresting counter, oh wel its the interwebz, only believe what you want too believe lol
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This is actually total junk written by people who took a credible astronomical study and totally misrepresented it. AGAIN THIS IS TOTAL BULLSHIT. We are from the milky way.
Here is an article which does a decent job of debunking this trash, I have seen a better one but this one is definetley sufficient. [link to blogs.discovermagazine.com]

And here is the original study. [link to www.astro.virginia.edu]
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Hmmm intresting counter, oh wel its the interwebz, only believe what you want too believe lol
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Yeah well when you just take a bit of a deeper look, the astronomers who did the study NEVER claim that we are from the dwarf galaxy. They just theorize that such a dwarf galaxy is present, total psuedoscience from "viewzone".
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So the myth of RA and isis have a base ....

Ra with a huge erection misses Isis in a cosmic ejaculation and creates the milky way ...

part informatic post .....
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Put this info up about 8 years ago and was 'Shot Down' by all the college 'boys' with their professor's THEORIES of what 'they' thought was happening.

Knew I was right from my reading of the FACTS IN MOTION of our solar system, AND the fact that we are bobbing in and out of the galactic arm.

There are so MANY 'Know it Alls' on GLP, it hardly makes any sense to offer any response to their Cut in STONE theories.

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Completely wrong. For one thing, it's not a mystery why the galactic plane is inclined to the ecliptic plane, stars form with random orientations. There's absolutely no reason to expect them to form with their planets' orbital planes aligned to the galactic plane. That's why random stars will have their planets transiting in front of them from our perspective, while others present their system's plane essentially "face-on" to us. And in case you think the ones whose orbital planes are "edge-on" to ours indicating that they too are not aligned with the milky way plane are other systems from the Sagittarius dwarf as well, they're not; just take a look at the orientations of the protoplanetary disks in the Orion nebula. Some are edge on, some aren't, it's all random and those newly-forming systems are forming in a nebula that is part of the milky way galaxy just like us.

That brings me to my next point, which is that we are definitely not part of the Sagittarius dwarf galaxy. Our solar system's motion relative to the galactic plane and to the Sagittarius dwarf is incompatible with that claim. Our solar system's velocity is contained almost entirely in the V vector, perpendicular to the Sagittarius dwarf and within the milk way's galactic plane.

"Thus (Fig. 2) the motions of Sgr stars within this plane are almost entirely contained in their Galactic U and W velocity components, whereas the V motions of stars in the Sgr tidal tails almost entirely reflect solar motion."
[link to www.astro.caltech.edu]

The U V W velocity of our solar system is 10.1, 224, 6.7 km/sec as can be seen here:
[link to ej.iop.org]
(taken from here: [link to iopscience.iop.org] )
That means we're not part of the sagittarius stream as we do not share a common motion of travel at all.

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OMG, so we're the wetbacks of the Milky way Galaxy?!!



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OMG, so we're the wetbacks of the Milky way Galaxy?!!



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Put this info up about 8 years ago and was 'Shot Down' by all the college 'boys' with their professor's THEORIES of what 'they' thought was happening.

Knew I was right from my reading of the FACTS IN MOTION of our solar system, AND the fact that we are bobbing in and out of the galactic arm.

There are so MANY 'Know it Alls' on GLP, it hardly makes any sense to offer any response to their Cut in STONE theories.

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OMG, so we're the wetbacks of the Milky way Galaxy?!!



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[link to discovermagazine.com]

[link to www.astro.caltech.edu]

Sequence of events:

Inside Scoop:

* May 30th 2006 M. Erwin saw the above new Star Map making the discovery, then personally wrote W. H. Gates III, and also officially registered with the Harvard Smithsonian Center for Astrophysics the Discovery:

The mystery of why the Milky Way has always been sideways in the night sky has never been answered until now...

We are from another galaxy in process of joining the Milky Way. ( see below-- opens the way for further discoveries: )

[link to www.astronomy.org]

One year later these two supporting funded discoveries were published in the mainstream:

SOLAR SYSTEM & MILKY WAY DOING THE SPLITS

MSNBC News Release:

[link to www.msnbc.msn.com]

SOLAR SYSTEM STARTED IN A WAY PREVIOUSLY NOT THOUGHT POSSIBLE:

In a breakthrough mainstream Science News Release, information obviating the Sagittarius Dwarf Galaxy as parent to our Solar System rather than the Milky Way Galaxy as completely plausible was released evidencing our Solar System was actually formed in a whole different elemental galactic setting -- one of Aluminum -- [Dwarf Galaxy Genesis] rather than Iron -- [Milky Way Genesis]. Breakthrough release [link] uncovers new data completely contrary to what the Sciences previously understood or even thought possible:

[link to space.newscientist.com]


Matt --
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So how does an iron core planet originate from a Aluminium source??


Maybe they got that wrong as well??
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This is actually total junk written by people who took a credible astronomical study and totally misrepresented it. AGAIN THIS IS TOTAL BULLSHIT. We are from the milky way.
Here is an article which does a decent job of debunking this trash, I have seen a better one but this one is definetley sufficient. [link to blogs.discovermagazine.com]

And here is the original study. [link to www.astro.virginia.edu]
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Hmmm intresting counter, oh wel its the interwebz, only believe what you want too believe lol
 Quoting: BigBuddha


Yeah well when you just take a bit of a deeper look, the astronomers who did the study NEVER claim that we are from the dwarf galaxy. They just theorize that such a dwarf galaxy is present, total psuedoscience from "viewzone".
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: )

Funny how people will get on even with vehement aggression on a topic where they think they know...

Actual University of Virginia linked is old news & dated September 24, 2003.

Lead scientists and the 2MASS Infrared All Sky Survey team performed invaluable service in uncovering the new supercomputer sorted star map galactic loop but did not make the discovery of what it meant to us in our time ( finally reveals to man the true meaning of the ouroboros btw )

Symbol:

[link to www.fourmilab.ch]

[link to mindofchampions.com]

Lead scientist was responding to flood of inquiries supposedly about a discovery made by them which they could not answer for so they were forced to take the opposing refuting view.

Viewzone lifted the article contents without consult or permission from M. Erwin Future Knowledge Update Discovery Blog as discovery was made in 2006 and registered with Harvard Smithsonian Center for Astrophysics.

Scientist originally made light of the idea in print that our galaxy was devouring a smaller one...

turned out that we are the snack : )

* No one has been able to refute the findings to date with all the supporting subsequent studies out of the mainstream.

This was an independent discovery that made it out even though an initial quash attempt was made. Lead scientist has since published the statement:

[ NASA/ JPL podcast 09/07/07 ]

"We don't know the basic things about our place in the galaxy, our sun's place in the galaxy."

[link to planetquest.jpl.nasa.gov]



When the validating supporting discoveries were made and released a year later (as result of funding released when Gates and think tanks were written directly by registered discoverer M. Erwin) these additional discoveries (echoed by mainstream findings) that our star could not have originated from the Iron based genesis earlier thought, but rather an Aluminum based instead, as well as the finding by the Voyager spacecraft that "we are not even traveling in the same direction as the Milky Way" made it plain.

It is understandably an unsettling environment for those with Astrophyics degrees since their knowledge base is continually disrupted with new discoveries happing so fast and released directly over the internet that neither they nor the textbooks can keep up.

You could sigb up for a university degree and still be taught things about the Milky Way that have since been updated:

When one begins a search effort to determine the current state of humanity's understanding of the astro-sciences, it becomes apparent that such new discoveries can be happened upon and then be reported in some obscure area of the internet that completely supersedes all other related discoveries and published data on the topic while the earlier incorrect data remains up for and taught perhaps-- years and goes uncorrected in either the textbooks or the bulk of the internet sites...

*Such is even the case with things as large as the 200 billion star Milky Way galactic structure being discovered some time ago to be completely lopsided with no spiral arms branching out from the other side-- and all data to the contrary still remains and is even taught:

"has extra long arms sprouting out on one side and is warped and armless on the other." [DISCOVERY CHANNEL] [PIC: NASA]

[link to dsc.discovery.com]



The breakthroughs in science are coming now so rapidly that even at this very moment-- most astro-science personnel that could be consulted for comment on even the first two mainstream science sourced breakthrough discoveries listed above (that) have now fully "undone" all related textbook science all the way back to Copernicus-- may not have had ample opportunity to be properly updated on these and actually able to be definitive in any related statements issued.

NOTE: A recent incredible discovery has also uncovered the fact that man has also been basically incorrect in much of the basic measurement analysis for much of our distant Hubble telescope astronomy to date:

"Universe actually shines twice as bright as astronomers had thought, a discovery that will lead to a massive reevaluation of space images."


"A lot of conclusions will have to be revised, notably about the evolution of galaxies."

"...in fact only half the energy produced by stars actually reaches our telescopes directly, the rest is blocked by dust grains."

LINK:

[link to www.telegraph.co.uk]

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