Godlike Productions - Discussion Forum
Users Online Now: 2,191 (Who's On?)Visitors Today: 1,649,613
Pageviews Today: 2,412,664Threads Today: 664Posts Today: 13,633
07:40 PM


Rate this Thread

Absolute BS Crap Reasonable Nice Amazing
 

Wholly Science: New video presentation in English by Johan Oldenkamp, PhD on Origins, Life, Conciousness and more - Who Are We and Why Are We?

 
Rey Rogers
Offer Upgrade

User ID: 4612120
Spain
11/04/2011 11:40 AM
Report Abusive Post
Report Copyright Violation
Wholly Science: New video presentation in English by Johan Oldenkamp, PhD on Origins, Life, Conciousness and more - Who Are We and Why Are We?
Posted on GLP and Youtube with implicit written permission of the author

Wholly Science (Wholy Science)
Presentation series by Johan Oldenkamp, PhD.

Wholly Science combines the remarkable findings of Modern Science with the profound wisdom of Ancient Science. In this series of lectures, Johan Oldenkamp presents the basics of Wholly Science. To learn more about Wholly Science, read his free online e-book 'The Bigger Picture -- Beyond the Illusion of Matter' on [link to Pateo.nl.]

Johan´s Youtube Channel: [link to www.youtube.com]
Johan´s homepage: [link to pateo.nl]

Part 1: Plato Revisited
This video explains the deeper meaning of Plato's Allegory of the Cave. The real-life world we perceive and detect around us consists of mere shadows, exactly like Plato described in his allegory. The real world is just an illusion. The Sanskrit word for illusion is 'maya'. Nowadays, Quantum Physics starts to rediscover what Ancient Science already knew thousands of years ago: the 'real' world is just a holographic projection. This video shows that matter is projected energy. Unfortunately, Modern Science mistakenly confuses the shadows of energy with original (living) energy. To know what energy really is, we need to fully understand the teachings of Ancient Science.


YT link: [link to www.youtube.com]

Part 2: Forbidden Apple of Knowledge
This video reveals the secrets of the Forbidden Apple of Knowledge. This 'Apple' represents the shape of infinitely spiraling energy. By understanding the spiraling dynamics of energy, the teachings of Ancient Science start to make sense.


YT link: [link to www.youtube.com]

Part 3: Dynamics of Time
Both time and space are illusions. These are dimension of the holographic projection we experience as the real world. It is the spiraling dynamics of energy that determine our experience of time. We experience three cycles of time: a daily cycle, a yearly cycle, and the longest cycle that lasts a Great Year, as Plato named it. This latter cycle is the Precession of the Equinoxes.


YT link: [link to www.youtube.com]


Part 4: Mayan Calendars

Nearly all Mayan Calendars track the dynamics of energy, instead of the shadow movement of matter, like the common calendar does. This video explains the energetic dynamics of the 13 tones of the Tzol'kin. It shows that these tones are the stages of each process of Creation.


YT link: [link to www.youtube.com]

Part 5a: Nine Waves of Creation
Part 5b: Nine Waves of Creation

The Pyramid of Kukulcan in the Mayan town of Chichen Itza in the region of Yucatán in the East of Mexico consists of exactly 9 levels. This video shows that these levels represent the nested Waves of Creation, each creating a higher level of consciousness. For a longer presentation of these 9 Waves, watch this video: [link to www.youtube.com]



YT link A: [link to www.youtube.com]
YT link B: [link to www.youtube.com]

Part 6a: Source Code
Part 6b: Source Code

This video explains that the Source of Everything can be expressed in ciphers. By revealing that ciphers are the Source Code of the Whole of Reality, Wholly Science also includes Vortex-Based Mathematics as developed by Marko Rodin and Randy Powell. To learn more about this visit Randy's website [link to TheABHAKingdom.com.] The presentation on this video can be considered as an introduction to Vortex-Based Mathematics.



YT link A: [link to www.youtube.com]
YT link B: [link to www.youtube.com]

Part 7: Wholly Science
This video integrates the presentations shown in the previous videos. It shows how Wholly Science combines the remarkable findings of Modern Science with the profound wisdom of Ancient Science.


YT link: [link to www.youtube.com]

Tags: mayan calendar 2012 universe creation plato marko rodin nine waves conciousness evolution humanity mankind doom love wholly science wholy wholey future light truth history

Comments welcome, also if you wish to direct these to Johan personally or via me. On the harmonics of the 9th wave and the (new) dates as announced this spring and calculated by myself:

Tzol´Tun enddate according to Oldenkamp: Sat, 14th July 2012
Minus 13x18 days = Thursday Nov 24 2011 = new start of Final wave which gives this updated schedule for the final wave:

First day: Thursday, Nov 24 2011 +18days =
First night: Monday, 12 December 2011
Second day: Friday, 30 December 2011
Second night: Tuesday, 17 January 2012
Third day: Saturday, 4 February 2012
Third night: Wednesday, 22 February 2012
Fourth day: Sunday, 11 March 2012
Fourth night: Thursday, 29 March 2012
Fifth day: Monday, 16 April 2012
Fifth night: Friday, 4 May 2012
Sixth day: Tuesday, 22 May 2012
Sixth night: Saturday, 9 June 2012
Final day: Wednesday, 27 June 2012
...ending 18 days later on Sat, 14th July 2012.


Now the interesting part.

Recalculated 8th wave: 9th wave=234 days
length of periods in 8th wave= 360 days (x13) last day in 8th ends on nov 23, 2011

Let me quickly explain that the ENTIRE 9th wave fits into the 7th day of the 8th wave. So the 9th wave starts at the end of the 7th day in the 8th wave MINUS the total length of the 9th wave (which is 13 x 18 = 234 days) Meaning that the 7th day of the 8th wave is only 360 - 234 = 126 days long.

Using the start of the 9th wave (= Nov 24, 2011) we subtract 126 days to find the start of the 7th day in the 8th cycle ( = 21 July 2011) Resulting in the 8th wave looking like this: (each period except the last day of the cycle being 360 days (=18x20)long)

7th day: 21 July 2011 minus 360 days=
6th night: 26 July 2010
6th day: 31 July 2009
5th night: 5 August 2008
5th day: 11 August 2007
4th night: 16 August 2006
4th day: 21 August 2005
3rd night: 26 August 2004
3rd day: 1 September 2003
2nd night: 6 September 2002
2nd day: 11 September 2001 (bingo)
1st night: 16 September 2000
1st day: 22 September 1999


So far, so good. In this model 9/11 did occur at exactly the start of the third tone in this model. (which is the second day) Here is what Johan writes:

What we need are historic events that clearly show the energetic essence of the corresponding creational tone. Such a date is May 1, 1776. On this date a secret society to gain global power on Earth founded itself in Germany. This event corresponds to Tone 2 because this official institutionalisation opens the way to become more powerful.

However, when we count back from December 21, 2012, the foundation date of these hidden violaters falls in the period of the first Tone. This is a second reason why December 21, 2012 is definitely not the right ending date of the Tzol’tun.

The insight that the Tzol’tun is a calendar revealing the Waves of Creation (of consciousness) comes from the Swedish scientist Dr. Carl Johan Calleman. He came up with October 28, 2011 as a better ending date for the Long Count Calendar. With this ending date the foundation date of the Illuminati, as the top of the global pyramid of power, does indeed match with the second Tone. Also does the Tzol’kin cycle end at this date. Please be aware that Dreamspell interpretation of the Tzol’kin differs from the original one.

For long, I thought the debate was which of both dates is the correct one. That is the reason why in my previous work, I also claim that the Tzol’tun counts back to the 28th of October of the current leap around the sun Helios. Recently, however, is discovered that there is another candidate for this ending date. The correct ending date of Long Count Calendar also clearly reveals the energetic meaning of 9/11.

The aim of 9/11 (and especially of the controlled demolition of WTC #1, #2 and #7) was to prevent the activation of the germ for Strength consciousness. I hope none of the visitors of this website still believe the official reading of the events on that shocking day. The 9/11 operation was an absolute masterpiece demonstrating the power of the Illuminati. On top of that, the timing could not have been more perfect. This event occurred at the very start of Tone 3 (of the eighth Wave of Creation). This means that the correct ending date (of the overall process of Creation) is: July 14, 2012


More here: Thread: An electrifying 2011 ahead - here is your schedule according to TUN - UPDATE: New completion date introduced by Oldenkamp: 14 July, 2012 (Page 30)
Source for the quote: [link to pateo.nl]

Another interesting "coincidence" is that in this model the Federal Reserve was created exactly at the start of the 5th day of the 7th wave.

Conclusion: We are still in the last day of the 8th wave and the 9th wave will start on November 24, 2011 and end on July 14, 2012.

I wish those who are new to these concepts a pleasant (self)discovery.

Rey Rogers

Last Edited by Rey Rogers on 11/04/2011 03:29 PM
Time field researcher Dr David Anderson and his websites are missing. Why? Please discuss.
Thread: Spacetime manipulation and the Dr David Anderson Enigma: Opening the road to time travel and limitless energy
Anonymous Coward
User ID: 865798
United States
11/04/2011 11:51 AM
Report Abusive Post
Report Copyright Violation
Re: Wholly Science: New video presentation in English by Johan Oldenkamp, PhD on Origins, Life, Conciousness and more - Who Are We and Why Are We?
Great post Rogers.

Amazing synchronicity as well! Within 5 minutes, I have seen two posts with Plato being used in them, and I have just pinned my Plato thread today!
Thread: Plato
Rey Rogers  (OP)

User ID: 4612120
Spain
11/04/2011 12:01 PM
Report Abusive Post
Report Copyright Violation
Re: Wholly Science: New video presentation in English by Johan Oldenkamp, PhD on Origins, Life, Conciousness and more - Who Are We and Why Are We?
Great post Rogers.

Amazing synchronicity as well! Within 5 minutes, I have seen two posts with Plato being used in them, and I have just pinned my Plato thread today!
Thread: Plato
 Quoting: SickScent


Thanks SS, I will check yours out as always. We are on the same wavelength for sure.

Yeah about that pinning, I need to check my points, not sure if I have enough to do that too. It is a pretty important subject I´d say so I´ll try.

RR

PS: Nice x-reference to Marko Rodin in your Plato thread.

Last Edited by Rey Rogers on 11/04/2011 12:04 PM
Time field researcher Dr David Anderson and his websites are missing. Why? Please discuss.
Thread: Spacetime manipulation and the Dr David Anderson Enigma: Opening the road to time travel and limitless energy
Anonymous Coward
User ID: 865798
United States
11/04/2011 12:13 PM
Report Abusive Post
Report Copyright Violation
Re: Wholly Science: New video presentation in English by Johan Oldenkamp, PhD on Origins, Life, Conciousness and more - Who Are We and Why Are We?
Great post Rogers.

Amazing synchronicity as well! Within 5 minutes, I have seen two posts with Plato being used in them, and I have just pinned my Plato thread today!
Thread: Plato
 Quoting: SickScent


Thanks SS, I will check yours out as always. We are on the same wavelength for sure.

Yeah about that pinning, I need to check my points, not sure if I have enough to do that too. It is a pretty important subject I´d say so I´ll try.

RR

PS: Nice x-reference to Marko Rodin in your Plato thread.
 Quoting: Rey Rogers


I don't have enough to pin it for you, or I would. We are DEFINITELY on the same wavelength.

Let me snoop around and see if I can get a favor pin for ya. This is great material. Got it personally pinned.

thumbs
Rey Rogers  (OP)

User ID: 4612120
Spain
11/04/2011 12:15 PM
Report Abusive Post
Report Copyright Violation
Re: Wholly Science: New video presentation in English by Johan Oldenkamp, PhD on Origins, Life, Conciousness and more - Who Are We and Why Are We?
I don't have enough to pin it for you, or I would. We are DEFINITELY on the same wavelength.

Let me snoop around and see if I can get a favor pin for ya. This is great material. Got it personally pinned.

thumbs
 Quoting: SickScent


I think I got it, I used 10 points and clicked on the thingy. It is now more visible... Thanks SS
Time field researcher Dr David Anderson and his websites are missing. Why? Please discuss.
Thread: Spacetime manipulation and the Dr David Anderson Enigma: Opening the road to time travel and limitless energy
FraudulentZodiac

User ID: 1495305
United States
11/04/2011 01:07 PM
Report Abusive Post
Report Copyright Violation
Re: Wholly Science: New video presentation in English by Johan Oldenkamp, PhD on Origins, Life, Conciousness and more - Who Are We and Why Are We?
The path appears as we walk fellas. Good post OP, I really resonated with the dates that Calleman gave for the completion of the Mayan calendar. I believe it is the beginning of the process that culminates on Dec 21, 2012. Im very interested to watch all the vids. The Holy Science has been crashing down on my consciousness the last weeks strongly. The synchronicities are stellar. Im excited to see this view of what it means.

I first learned about the Holy Science from the work of Santos Bonacci. He is an avid Plato promoter.


"All energy flows according to the whims of the Great Magnet" - Hunter S. Thompson

"None are more hopelessly enslaved than those who falsely believe they are free." - Johann Wolfgang von Goethe

We are all just ins inside the out, and outs inside the ins.
oeroe2911

User ID: 538312
Netherlands
11/04/2011 02:05 PM
Report Abusive Post
Report Copyright Violation
Re: Wholly Science: New video presentation in English by Johan Oldenkamp, PhD on Origins, Life, Conciousness and more - Who Are We and Why Are We?
thanx for hijacking my thread!
Thread: IIIIII NEW EVIDENCE!! MAYA 9th WAVE STARTS ON NOV. 24 2011!! IIIII

good luck.
tjikkelindebikkel

"He who knows not, and knows not that he knows not, is a fool... shun him.
He who knows not, and knows that he knows not, is willing... teach him.
He who knows, and knows not that he knows, is asleep... awaken him.
He who knows, and knows that he knows, is wise... follow him."
koze

User ID: 1515321
Netherlands
11/04/2011 02:07 PM
Report Abusive Post
Report Copyright Violation
Re: Wholly Science: New video presentation in English by Johan Oldenkamp, PhD on Origins, Life, Conciousness and more - Who Are We and Why Are We?
More of this genius at work: www.pateo.nl
God does not play dice
Anonymous Coward
User ID: 3632012
United States
11/04/2011 02:17 PM
Report Abusive Post
Report Copyright Violation
Re: Wholly Science: New video presentation in English by Johan Oldenkamp, PhD on Origins, Life, Conciousness and more - Who Are We and Why Are We?
bsflag
Rey Rogers (NLI) (OP)
User ID: 4612120
Spain
11/04/2011 02:25 PM
Report Abusive Post
Report Copyright Violation
Re: Wholly Science: New video presentation in English by Johan Oldenkamp, PhD on Origins, Life, Conciousness and more - Who Are We and Why Are We?
 Quoting: oeroe2911


No such thing intended, I´m sure. Good to see you have a thread about Oldenkamp too, the more the better.

I posted weeks ago about the Oldenkamp recalculations so if linear time is a measuring tool for the act of "hijacking" I claim first blood :-) Check the date on these posts:
Thread: An electrifying 2011 ahead - here is your schedule according to TUN - UPDATE: New completion date introduced by Oldenkamp: 14 July, 2012 (Page 30)

This new thread is really about the overall picture and the recent presentation in English by Johan, and to bring it to a wider attention.

RR
Anonymous Coward (OP)
User ID: 4612120
Spain
11/04/2011 02:31 PM
Report Abusive Post
Report Copyright Violation
Re: Wholly Science: New video presentation in English by Johan Oldenkamp, PhD on Origins, Life, Conciousness and more - Who Are We and Why Are We?
The path appears as we walk fellas. Good post OP, I really resonated with the dates that Calleman gave for the completion of the Mayan calendar. I believe it is the beginning of the process that culminates on Dec 21, 2012. Im very interested to watch all the vids. The Holy Science has been crashing down on my consciousness the last weeks strongly. The synchronicities are stellar. Im excited to see this view of what it means.
 Quoting: FraudulentZodiac


That says it all.

Thanks

hf
Anonymous Coward (OP)
User ID: 4612120
Spain
11/04/2011 02:32 PM
Report Abusive Post
Report Copyright Violation
Re: Wholly Science: New video presentation in English by Johan Oldenkamp, PhD on Origins, Life, Conciousness and more - Who Are We and Why Are We?
bsflag
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 3632012


Why not discuss what bothers you?
Anonymous Coward
User ID: 3632012
United States
11/04/2011 02:57 PM
Report Abusive Post
Report Copyright Violation
Re: Wholly Science: New video presentation in English by Johan Oldenkamp, PhD on Origins, Life, Conciousness and more - Who Are We and Why Are We?
Wooly science comes from wooly thinking.
Rey Rogers  (OP)

User ID: 4612120
Spain
11/04/2011 03:13 PM
Report Abusive Post
Report Copyright Violation
Re: Wholly Science: New video presentation in English by Johan Oldenkamp, PhD on Origins, Life, Conciousness and more - Who Are We and Why Are We?
Wooly science comes from wooly thinking.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 3632012


The most difficult thing to do is examine evidence that goes clearly against your current beliefs.

The second most difficult thing is accepting those beliefs were either wrong or based on supersticious or mythical beliefs.

I do hope skeptics will allow themselves to examine the evidence.
Time field researcher Dr David Anderson and his websites are missing. Why? Please discuss.
Thread: Spacetime manipulation and the Dr David Anderson Enigma: Opening the road to time travel and limitless energy
FraudulentZodiac

User ID: 1495305
United States
11/04/2011 04:09 PM
Report Abusive Post
Report Copyright Violation
Re: Wholly Science: New video presentation in English by Johan Oldenkamp, PhD on Origins, Life, Conciousness and more - Who Are We and Why Are We?
The path appears as we walk fellas. Good post OP, I really resonated with the dates that Calleman gave for the completion of the Mayan calendar. I believe it is the beginning of the process that culminates on Dec 21, 2012. Im very interested to watch all the vids. The Holy Science has been crashing down on my consciousness the last weeks strongly. The synchronicities are stellar. Im excited to see this view of what it means.
 Quoting: FraudulentZodiac


That says it all.

Thanks

hf
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 4612120


hf

After watching the videos I am very intrigued. Im not sure about why he has the first wave of creation only being 1.6 billion years in a couple of the slides, then 16.9 billion in others. I do agree that 9/11 is an important date as well. Hard to tell honestly. The way things were panning out in reality seemed to match Calleman's dates pretty well. Fukushima on the beginning of the 9th wave and Rossi E-cat/OWS at the close. Who knows, maybe there are more profound changes to come that align with the dates presented here. Hopefully things just get better no matter what.
"All energy flows according to the whims of the Great Magnet" - Hunter S. Thompson

"None are more hopelessly enslaved than those who falsely believe they are free." - Johann Wolfgang von Goethe

We are all just ins inside the out, and outs inside the ins.
Rey Rogers  (OP)

User ID: 4612120
Spain
11/04/2011 04:38 PM
Report Abusive Post
Report Copyright Violation
Re: Wholly Science: New video presentation in English by Johan Oldenkamp, PhD on Origins, Life, Conciousness and more - Who Are We and Why Are We?
After watching the videos I am very intrigued. Im not sure about why he has the first wave of creation only being 1.6 billion years in a couple of the slides, then 16.9 billion in others. I do agree that 9/11 is an important date as well. Hard to tell honestly. The way things were panning out in reality seemed to match Calleman's dates pretty well. Fukushima on the beginning of the 9th wave and Rossi E-cat/OWS at the close. Who knows, maybe there are more profound changes to come that align with the dates presented here. Hopefully things just get better no matter what.
 Quoting: FraudulentZodiac


The total first wave lasted 16.4 billion years and in that first wave a single period lasted 1.3 billion years (13 total). Then during the last period of the first wave we moved into the second wave, which is 20x faster so around 80 million years total with 13 periods of around 6 million years each.

Can be confusing, but if you want to learn a bit more on the nine levels I´d suggest his presentation of last year which was in dutch, but I translated it in English using subtitles.

Part one here:



A lot more detail here, also on the dynamics of time and the harmonics of the universe. This basically blew my mind first time I saw it.

RR

Last Edited by Rey Rogers on 11/04/2011 04:40 PM
Time field researcher Dr David Anderson and his websites are missing. Why? Please discuss.
Thread: Spacetime manipulation and the Dr David Anderson Enigma: Opening the road to time travel and limitless energy
Anonymous Coward (OP)
User ID: 4612120
Spain
11/05/2011 01:03 PM
Report Abusive Post
Report Copyright Violation
Re: Wholly Science: New video presentation in English by Johan Oldenkamp, PhD on Origins, Life, Conciousness and more - Who Are We and Why Are We?
For the Dutch speakers, there will be a symposium on Nov 12 in Werkendam (Netherlands) about 2012 and the Mayan calendars.

Overall theme for 2012: connectivity in freedom (verbondenheid in vrijheid)
Presenters: Johan Oldenkamp and Peter Toonen

More info: [link to www.pateo.nl]

RR
MysticJ

User ID: 1233391
Netherlands
11/05/2011 01:26 PM
Report Abusive Post
Report Copyright Violation
Re: Wholly Science: New video presentation in English by Johan Oldenkamp, PhD on Origins, Life, Conciousness and more - Who Are We and Why Are We?
Nice 1 OP.

Bin 2 some lecturs of johan oldenkamp.

This guy is really amazing.

Keep it comingbump
Anonymous Coward (OP)
User ID: 4612120
Spain
11/05/2011 05:20 PM
Report Abusive Post
Report Copyright Violation
Re: Wholly Science: New video presentation in English by Johan Oldenkamp, PhD on Origins, Life, Conciousness and more - Who Are We and Why Are We?
Nice 1 OP.

Bin 2 some lecturs of johan oldenkamp.

This guy is really amazing.

Keep it comingbump
 Quoting: MysticJ


Thanks...

We must not denounce the work from Ian Lungold, Carl Calleman and many others because 28th of October did not show the heavens open and fireballs raining from the sky (or whatever else some may have thought) - far from it - (I predicted the financial system would go down before oct 28 and guess what, I was wrong, but the signs it is coming are clearly there).

the process of conciousness evolution IS happening, it is clear from the evidence around us. I personally could not care less if the actual enddate of the calendar is oct 28, july 14 or dec 21.

The differences between these dates are just the blink of an eye on the cosmic scale of things.

I do however care about the ones that feel and see change and are clueless about it. To those I say: forget the dates, see and feel the overall picture and understand your essence of being.

RR
Him Again
User ID: 4651308
United States
11/05/2011 09:32 PM
Report Abusive Post
Report Copyright Violation
Re: Wholly Science: New video presentation in English by Johan Oldenkamp, PhD on Origins, Life, Conciousness and more - Who Are We and Why Are We?
Thanks OP. Nice find. Dovetails nicely with Bowman's nice thread a couple months ago.
Seer777
Ride the wings of the mind

User ID: 3018467
United States
11/05/2011 09:42 PM

Report Abusive Post
Report Copyright Violation
Re: Wholly Science: New video presentation in English by Johan Oldenkamp, PhD on Origins, Life, Conciousness and more - Who Are We and Why Are We?
Thanks...

We must not denounce the work from Ian Lungold, Carl Calleman and many others because 28th of October did not show the heavens open and fireballs raining from the sky (or whatever else some may have thought) - far from it - (I predicted the financial system would go down before oct 28 and guess what, I was wrong, but the signs it is coming are clearly there).

the process of conciousness evolution IS happening, it is clear from the evidence around us. I personally could not care less if the actual enddate of the calendar is oct 28, july 14 or dec 21.

The differences between these dates are just the blink of an eye on the cosmic scale of things.

I do however care about the ones that feel and see change and are clueless about it. To those I say: forget the dates, see and feel the overall picture and understand your essence of being.

RR
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 4612120

Well said.
hf
Difficulties strengthen the Mind as labor does the body...
~Seneca
Anonymous Coward
User ID: 1511582
United States
11/06/2011 11:59 AM
Report Abusive Post
Report Copyright Violation
Re: Wholly Science: New video presentation in English by Johan Oldenkamp, PhD on Origins, Life, Conciousness and more - Who Are We and Why Are We?
Thanks OP. Nice find. Dovetails nicely with Bowman's nice thread a couple months ago.
 Quoting: Him Again 4651308


applause
shadasonic

User ID: 7848598
United States
01/06/2012 11:12 AM
Report Abusive Post
Report Copyright Violation
Re: Wholly Science: New video presentation in English by Johan Oldenkamp, PhD on Origins, Life, Conciousness and more - Who Are We and Why Are We?
bump because its pieces so much together, great minds on this thread
“One of the saddest lessons of history is this: If we’ve been bamboozled long enough, we tend to reject any evidence of the bamboozle. We’re no longer interested in finding out the truth. The bamboozle has captured us. It’s simply too painful to acknowledge, even to ourselves, that we’ve been taken. Once you give a charlatan power over you, you almost never get it back.” – Carl Sagan
shadasonic

User ID: 7848598
United States
01/06/2012 11:16 AM
Report Abusive Post
Report Copyright Violation
Re: Wholly Science: New video presentation in English by Johan Oldenkamp, PhD on Origins, Life, Conciousness and more - Who Are We and Why Are We?
Thanks OP. Nice find. Dovetails nicely with Bowman's nice thread a couple months ago.
 Quoting: Him Again 4651308


I bumped this thread and it appeared beside Bowmans on the first page,synchronicity at work!
“One of the saddest lessons of history is this: If we’ve been bamboozled long enough, we tend to reject any evidence of the bamboozle. We’re no longer interested in finding out the truth. The bamboozle has captured us. It’s simply too painful to acknowledge, even to ourselves, that we’ve been taken. Once you give a charlatan power over you, you almost never get it back.” – Carl Sagan
Sargon

User ID: 6846423
Canada
01/25/2012 03:40 PM

Report Abusive Post
Report Copyright Violation
Re: Wholly Science: New video presentation in English by Johan Oldenkamp, PhD on Origins, Life, Conciousness and more - Who Are We and Why Are We?
We need a meeting of Johan Oldenkamp and Nassin Harameim.

Who do we connect them?
Eagle_Eye

User ID: 1297108
United States
01/25/2012 03:54 PM
Report Abusive Post
Report Copyright Violation
Re: Wholly Science: New video presentation in English by Johan Oldenkamp, PhD on Origins, Life, Conciousness and more - Who Are We and Why Are We?
PIN
Smash Smash Suuuh-mash
-Kai the great
Anonymous Coward
User ID: 1345087
United States
01/25/2012 03:58 PM
Report Abusive Post
Report Copyright Violation
Re: Wholly Science: New video presentation in English by Johan Oldenkamp, PhD on Origins, Life, Conciousness and more - Who Are We and Why Are We?
Anything that uses the 24 hour cycle as a time reference I stop reading because that is from man's or earth's perceptive...therefore:

bsflag
Luna

User ID: 4015910
Spain
01/25/2012 04:19 PM
Report Abusive Post
Report Copyright Violation
Re: Wholly Science: New video presentation in English by Johan Oldenkamp, PhD on Origins, Life, Conciousness and more - Who Are We and Why Are We?
Thank you for posting these videos which look very interesting. Finding this kind of information is what keeps me coming back to GLP. I'm now leaving to watch the videos.

hf
-GooGooFlexy-

User ID: 1238529
United States
01/25/2012 04:20 PM
Report Abusive Post
Report Copyright Violation
Re: Wholly Science: New video presentation in English by Johan Oldenkamp, PhD on Origins, Life, Conciousness and more - Who Are We and Why Are We?
Sweet. I'll be watching this later.
-GooGooFlexy-
shadasonic

User ID: 7848598
United States
01/25/2012 04:49 PM
Report Abusive Post
Report Copyright Violation
Re: Wholly Science: New video presentation in English by Johan Oldenkamp, PhD on Origins, Life, Conciousness and more - Who Are We and Why Are We?
Sweet. I'll be watching this later.
 Quoting: -GooGooFlexy-


RR greaty job, this information strikes that chord of familiarity that we are only able to experience so little of
“One of the saddest lessons of history is this: If we’ve been bamboozled long enough, we tend to reject any evidence of the bamboozle. We’re no longer interested in finding out the truth. The bamboozle has captured us. It’s simply too painful to acknowledge, even to ourselves, that we’ve been taken. Once you give a charlatan power over you, you almost never get it back.” – Carl Sagan
Manu-Koelbren

User ID: 9495770
Spain
01/25/2012 04:52 PM
Report Abusive Post
Report Copyright Violation
Re: Wholly Science: New video presentation in English by Johan Oldenkamp, PhD on Origins, Life, Conciousness and more - Who Are We and Why Are We?
relevant
Banned as usual.

“It is far easier to be a weakling than to be a Real Man. Were the Earth less harsh or the circumstances of life less austere, man would destroy himself before the shrine of the languid goddess. Only Real Men can with safety destroy the tangled forests and wilderness of Earth and make from them gardens, but will those who inherit the gardens be Real Men? The law decrees that they must be, or the wilderness will reclaim its own.”





GLP