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""""You shall have no other gods before me""" WTF GOD ADMITS OTHER GODS EXIST??

 
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""""You shall have no other gods before me""" WTF GOD ADMITS OTHER GODS EXIST??
"You shall have no other gods before me is one of the Ten Commandments"
There it is the hebrew god admits other gods exist irrefutable proof from your almighty god himself!!!!
DEBUNK THAT!1rof1
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Man-made gods you idiot.
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there are so many inconsistencies in the "word" of god, any logician would be foolish to believe in omnipotence...
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"You shall have no other gods before me is one of the Ten Commandments"
There it is the hebrew god admits other gods exist irrefutable proof from your almighty god himself!!!!
DEBUNK THAT!1rof1
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I can't. You try.
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Man-made gods you idiot.
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Dont you think "god" would be smart enough to make that clear if that is what he meant?
Moran!
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Re: """"You shall have no other gods before me""" WTF GOD ADMITS OTHER GODS EXIST??
Yeah, and he even admits that because his people are in captivity right now we serve other gods. Serving other gods and worshipping other gods are two different things. If I prove this to you would you be willing to change your thought?
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Yeah, and he even admits that because his people are in captivity right now we serve other gods. Serving other gods and worshipping other gods are two different things. If I prove this to you would you be willing to change your thought?
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So there is many gods he admits it and so do you. Thank you
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OP you are not that bright if you can't understand that passage.

Why would He use a term other than god to refer to God?

Try again...
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Not only gods, but alive gods!!!

read Sitching, they were the heroes from the past times, gods for the humans...
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OP you are not that bright if you can't understand that passage.

Why would He use a term other than god to refer to God?

Try again...
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He coulda said "false god" nice try moran!
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OP you are not that bright if you can't understand that passage.

Why would He use a term other than god to refer to God?

Try again...
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He coulda said "false god" nice try moran!
bonghit
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But he didn't say 'false' gods.
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There have been millions of other "gods"...people worship strange things..... rocks, grasshoppers, cows, the sun, the moon, the stars, cars, celebrities, obama, buddha, etc., etc. ......... People make idols out of just about everything.

Our Creator God is the only true living God....yes, God admits that people make gods out of just anything they please.....

Earth shaking revelation to you, eh? Well, people have worshipped false gods since the beginning.
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OP you are not that bright if you can't understand that passage.

Why would He use a term other than god to refer to God?

Try again...
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He coulda said "false god" nice try moran!
bonghit
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Apparently He didn't want you to understand, ergo, you don't.

But let's admit the truth OP. You just came here to start an argument. Your mind is already made up and you have no intention of changing it.

Take a course in logic when you get out of junior high.
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Demons pose as gods - the Egyptians worshipped a whole host of them.

Exodus 12:13 For I will pass through the land of Egypt this night, and will smite all the first-born in the land of Dgypt, both man and beast; and against all the gods of Egypt I will execute judgement: I am the Lord.
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Why do you hate God OP?
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Know that oone can explain it the personal attacks start rofl!
lmao
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Man-made gods you idiot.
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yep, just like the one xtians and muzzies kill over

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Why do you hate God OP?
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Trying to find the truth has no hate in it.
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I didn't attack you personally. I want to know why you hate God.

It is simple to explain. Do not worship other gods. Yes, there are as many other gods as you can imagine. Nobody has pretended otherwise.
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Re: """"You shall have no other gods before me""" WTF GOD ADMITS OTHER GODS EXIST??
so, you really just sit around all the time debunking christianity? from your anonymous posts it seems that you need a life mr anonymous coward. your other threads were amusing to say the least. good luck with your cashrolling =)
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Re: """"You shall have no other gods before me""" WTF GOD ADMITS OTHER GODS EXIST??
"You shall have no other gods before me is one of the Ten Commandments"
There it is the hebrew god admits other gods exist irrefutable proof from your almighty god himself!!!!
DEBUNK THAT!1rof1
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1488496


anything men or woman worships becomes a GOD, no matter what it is, we throw our lives after something tangible in such pursuits it becomes OUR GOD. that is what the bible means by that statement.
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good grief, are we still living in the dark ages?

how can an educated individual find proof that sky fairies exist?
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Trying to find the truth has no hate in it.

Fair enough. Is OP searching for truth or being a shill/troll?

I'm thinking that the question is self explanatory. I may in fact be wrong.
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btw the one true god has a name. it is Jehova. the word god is just a title.
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"You shall have no other gods before me is one of the Ten Commandments"
There it is the hebrew god admits other gods exist irrefutable proof from your almighty god himself!!!!
DEBUNK THAT!1rof1
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1488496


Men make gods from other men for instance the gods from egypt were essentially Pharoahs who ruled at on time and then were elevated to the status of gods and worshipped . Hercules ( nimrod ) and other greek gods were once real men who were then in time elevated to god status .

GOD in the bible is reffering to the man-made gods that people worship who are actually men. man worshipping man .

get a clue...
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RE: Jehova...


WRITTEN BY ME. [link to www.spazgraphic.com]



The ambush



You spot them out the window as they approach the door; this calls for a bit of quick thinking on your part. Ding-dong chimes the doorbell What to do, what to do.

What do you do? Do you ponder hiding, hoping they do not see you? Do you open the door and politely say no thank you as you begrudgingly take their Watchtower Society™ magazines and various religious tracts?

Most have had at least one encounter with the Jehovah Witness and the majority, I am sure, have felt as though their highly coveted personal time was being infiltrated as these Witness' attack us with their unique brand of proselytizing, I know I have.

One late afternoon several years ago, I was flat out ambushed while coming home from a very long day out. It was the dead of summer and overwhelmingly hot; needless to say, I was just plain worn out and tired. The kids and I still had the farm critters to attend to before going in to make dinner - hopefully in time to greet my husband as he returned from work. Let's just say, all I wanted at the time was to get the hay and feed out of the truck, finish up my chores and relax. Instead, as I backed up to the barn, I noticed an entire extended family of Jehovah Witnesses sitting in their car awaiting my arrival, they had brought snacks; cooler and all this was not a good sign. Each of them were very polite and friendly but per their conditioned modus operandi, immediately after the initial pleasantries started off with something that went like this "God has a name! Do you know what it is?"


What's in a name?

No matter what your reply or lack thereof, Jehovah Witnesses will perform the non-debatable speech of God's true name being Jehovah. Period. This is what they are commanded to do by their church. To be fair, the Watchtower Society™ has concluded that Yahweh is also acceptable but to this day, I personally have yet to hear a member of their congregation actually use it without solicitation.

This got me to thinking, is their argument correct and could they really be on to something?

If you are a believer in the God of Israel; God of Abraham, Isaac and Jacob, then knowing your Father's name should be the simplest and foremost thing to be understood. After all, if you're going to have any sort of "personal relationship" with Him, shouldn't you at least know His name?

In fact, there is no excuse to not know it and in today's modern age of technology it is easier than ever before in the history of research. Sadly, most professing believers have no grasp of this most basic yet emphatically important concept whatsoever.


Is Jehovah correct?

Psalm 83:18 says, That men may know that thou, whose name alone is JEHOVAH, art the most high over all the earth. KJV

I digress: There is no possible way on God's green earth that Jehovah is the rightful and proper name of the Most High. Let's take a look, shall we?
The letter "J" is in neither the Hebrew, Greek or Arabic languages so right from the get go we can know with certainty that it is incorrect.

The name Jehovah was not in any original text and therefore that too is nothing short of a falsehood.


Calling on the name of the Lord synonymous with deliverance?

Joel 2:32 - And it shall come to pass, that whosoever shall call on the name of the LORD shall be delivered: for in mount Zion and in Jerusalem shall be deliverance, as the LORD hath said, and in the remnant whom the LORD shall call.

Malachi 1:11 - For from the rising of the sun even unto the going down of the same my name shall be great among the Gentiles;

Isaiah 12:2-4 - Behold, God is my salvation; I will trust, and not be afraid: for the LORD JEHOVAH is my strength and my song; he also is become my salvation. Therefore with joy shall ye draw water out of the wells of salvation. And in that day shall ye say, Praise the LORD, call upon his name, declare his doings among the people, make mention that his name is exalted.

How is it possible to call on His name if you don't know it? The words "Lord" and "God" respectively are not names at all but rather simple titles with both positive as well as negative connotations. What part might one's own ignorance of truth play in the days ahead? Is it possible that there could be serious spiritual consequences in not knowing?

Hosea 4:6 - My people are destroyed for lack of knowledge: because thou hast rejected knowledge, I will also reject thee, that thou shalt be no priest to me: seeing thou hast forgotten the law of thy God, I will also forget thy children.


So what is God's name?

I will attempt to simplify this and not get too etymological. Etymology is the study of the history of words and how their form and meaning have changed over time. As always I encourage you to do your own study.

The name of the God of Israel as He revealed Himself to Moses, Exodus:6:2, was Yah or Yah,u.

In original Hebrew, יהוה, pronounced yod-heh-vav-heh, is found in ancient Bible manuscripts and makes its appearance in Hebrew texts 6,823 times.

One might believe that if it was important enough to mention nearly 7000 times, it just might be something we should regard highly.

In each of the examples below, the meanings of these names and words refer to and are held with great esteem, to the name of the Most High, e.g. Yah is Strength, my God is Yah, etc.
EliYahu, Elijah
YeremiYahu, Jeremiah
YeshiYahu, Isaiah
Halleluyah, Praise Yah
Yahudite, Judaic
Yahoo, One who follows Yah


But it's easier to pronounce

On more than one occasion, I've actually heard the argument made for this name change being that it's an innocent English conversion of His name - you know, to make it easier for us to pronounce.

Huh!?! Are these people for real? Using this logic, essentially what they are saying is this.

Example:
My name just so happens to be Kerry but should I venture to Israel or partake in any form of communication with a Hebrew/Yiddish speaking person, I am, for their convenience of course, now obliged to temporarily change my name to something akin to Achazia?

Not only does this not make sense but it is insulting as well as ridiculous. To assume that the inhabitants thereof cannot or will not attempt to pronounce my given name is just plain silly. Whether or not they pronounce it perfectly or without accent, they could learn. No matter where I am at any given time, my name is, always has been and will always be Kerry. Dick will be Dick, Jane will be Jane and Achazia will be Achazia. That is just the way it is.

Seriously? Is Yah, yaw, or even yod-heh-vav-heh really that difficult to pronounce? Methinks they are not.


God knows what's in your heart

Many will undoubtedly say, "What's the harm? God knows what is in your heart and that we are referring to Him." While this may be true and I am not 100% convinced that it is, my simple reply is this, "Once you learn his proper name, why would you continue to insult him with something else?"

Throughout this book, I am trying to offer wisdom and understanding as to why knowing these things can help keep you in faith during the coming persecutions. There is a monstrous web of deceit to muddle through but it all adds up and if you take the time to look. A bright and clear picture starts to appear. Apostasy and tribulation are not an overnight occurrence and your faith needs to be unshakable.


Why has this been done?

The widely accepted pseudo-scholarly explanation we've been spoon-fed for centuries is this:
At some point in time the divine name, Yah, came to be held in such high esteem that in public readings in the synagogue the readers refused to pronounce it. As a sign of the ultimate sacredness of God's name - so holy that it could not even be pronounced - the Masoretes added vowel signs to the consonants Yah, which then changed the meaning of the word to adonai, which means "Lord." Adonai was and is considered a name for God that could be spoken and is the one most frequently used in modern Jewish ritual. The Greek translators followed this same tradition in their translation by using the word Kyrios meaning "Lord," as did the Latin Vulgate's use of Dominus.

The sacred name has been changed to keep us from blasphemy. If you don't know it, you can't use it with ill will.


What does the Bible have to say?

While the above explanation sounds almost reasonable, as someone wanting to know and follow their God, they should be aware that God Himself has a crafty nemesis, Halal HaShatan [Name] Satan/Lucifer. [Title]

Satan has one objective and one objective only which is to deceive the whole world so that he can become the like the Most High, Isaiah 14:13-15. Thus far, in the time which Satan has been allotted, he's been very busy and superfluous in his success. He has achieved this success through manipulation, lies, trickery, craftiness, cunning, deceit and the mocking of all that is good. As a strategic master, his first task at hand was to infiltrate the wisdom, hearts and minds of Yah's people; be it jewish or Gentile. Yah's people are collectively known as "Israel"- the people and has absolutely nothing to do with the country.

By changing Yah's name into a meaningless title, Satan was able to not only diminish the once common knowledge of the Most High's name, the very one we have been commanded to know but he also managed to get us to accept a nameless god.

Isaiah 14:13-15 - How art thou fallen from heaven, O Lucifer, son of the morning! how art thou cut down to the ground, which didst weaken the nations! For thou hast said in thine heart, I will ascend into heaven, I will exalt my throne above the stars of God: I will sit also upon the mount of the congregation, in the sides of the north: I will ascend above the heights of the clouds; I will be like the most High.

Revelation 12:9: - And the great dragon was cast out, that old serpent, called the Devil, and Satan, which deceiveth the whole world: he was cast out into the earth, and his angels were cast out with him.

We are told in Matthew 24 that many will effectively come in the name of christ but that we, His people are not to believe them; they are false christs.

Do you believe that it is probable that the Most High would give His authority to Lucifer and his minions, who must be granted permission, to use His sacred name? Of course He would not so the next best thing for Satan to do would be to change God's name. Think about it.
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Re: """"You shall have no other gods before me""" WTF GOD ADMITS OTHER GODS EXIST??
The question is simple why would the one and oly true god admit clearly that other gods exist?
He does not make any distinction that he is the real or only true god he just says you guys should choose me not the others.
He could of said the others arent real or they are not worth your time etc..
So he admits that he is just one among many.
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Maybe "God" and his authorities are scared of some higher powers.

The Hebrew god is weak.

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"If you bring forth what is within you, what you have will save you. If you do not have that within you, what you do not have within you [will] kill you."

"Whoever has come to know the world has discovered a carcass, and whoever has discovered a carcass, of that person the world is not worthy."

"Those who know all, but are lacking in themselves, are utterly lacking."
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Man-made gods you idiot.
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Dont you think "god" would be smart enough to make that clear if that is what he meant?
Moran!
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Perhaps if you had an iota of historical knowledge the terminology and meaning would not baffle you as much.

Having said that I doubt that you would review the passage using the historical circumstances of the day however in case I am wrong please read the following.

What is a God?

"Since God told the Israelites, "You shall have no other gods before Me." (Deuteronomy 5:7), it is important to understand what is meant by a god. A god is any person or thing that is conceived to have superior power and is worthy of worship, honor, praise, and exaltation. Most of the passages we will be examining refer to idols as gods."

[link to lavistachurchofchrist.org]
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"You shall have no other gods before me is one of the Ten Commandments"
There it is the hebrew god admits other gods exist irrefutable proof from your almighty god himself!!!!
DEBUNK THAT!1rof1
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1488496


Men make gods from other men for instance the gods from egypt were essentially Pharoahs who ruled at on time and then were elevated to the status of gods and worshipped . Hercules ( nimrod ) and other greek gods were once real men who were then in time elevated to god status .

GOD in the bible is reffering to the man-made gods that people worship who are actually men. man worshipping man .

get a clue...
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He did not say " man made gods" he said gods moran!
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"You shall have no other gods before me is one of the Ten Commandments"
There it is the hebrew god admits other gods exist irrefutable proof from your almighty god himself!!!!
DEBUNK THAT!1rof1
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1488496


Yeah, Allah Buddha etc.
The big lie is people saying that they are really all one god. THEY AREN'T.
You just read it from the horses mouth.

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