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Chemtrails in Chicagoland 11-04-11

 
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Travelling due west of Chicago in the early morning I saw contrails forming in the far west of IL. Plenty of contrails formed overhead during the day mid state as well.

This MODIS imagery shows the Chicago trail action at one point during the day. The yellow arrows show parallel trails but the lat/lon numbers are too imprecise for a Chicago chemtrail operation... from .5 to .16 increments.
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Since I wasn't in Chicago today, did anyone notice the aircraft details today? Was it the same aircraft? Schedule of operation?
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yes, two planes running at the same time, mid afternoon. heavy coverage.
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Noticed that myself today outside. It's been clear for the last few months as far as I can tell otherwise. What exactly do these chem trails do? (Loaded question, maybe, but without searching the interweb for a million sources...thought I'd ask here.)
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Noticed that myself today outside. It's been clear for the last few months as far as I can tell otherwise. What exactly do these chem trails do? (Loaded question, maybe, but without searching the interweb for a million sources...thought I'd ask here.)
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Read these threads, there are many possible reasons.
Multiple confirmed eyewitness reports in Chicagoland observed sprayed chemtrails in several different events.

11-22-09 Chemtrail cloud seeding for fog cover - DHS and AF Joint task force op for terrorist air interdiction over cities(Chicago).
Thread: Chem Trails in Chicagoland

03-29-10 During the world wide flu pandemic report
Thread: Low Spraying "chem-trail" Plane WOW!

06-01-Chicago racial attacks on Caucasions - race based biomedication eliminating any more summer reported problems!
Thread: Chemtrails in Chicagoland 6-1-2011

09-20-11 Forming a focus hub for a cyclonic weather spiral that lasted for a week, HAARP?, ELF?
Thread: Chemtrails over Chicagoland 9/20/2011
Thread: Who owned the sky over Chicago Tuesday 9-20-2011 between 8-12AM?
Thread: Chemtrails over Chicagoland 9-20-11, now a cyclonic weather pattern 9-24-11

10-07-11 One of several chemtrail grids applications prior to CME Solar Flare arrivals, GLP has one of the few real time CME report threads.
Thread: Chemtrails Over Chicago...New pics just taken 10/07/2011 around 12:15 pm
Thread: SOLAR WATCH * 312 M & 25 X FLARES starting 3-7-2011 (Updated Daily) (Page 405)

09-12-11 AC153
Thread: Yesterday is the first day in months that I have seen chemtrails again!!!!!
Thread: G3 Geomagnetic Storm - On Sept. 12, we are expected to receive a direct hit!!!

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Well, wow, didn't notice it so much in earlier months; but maybe I wasn't looking everyday. Today it was just completely obvious, it looked like a grid above my head. Granted there's always a shit ton of planes in the sky around here, it is a busy area for planes.
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AC921 and George B,
In Chicago the air traffic emanates radially from our two airports(like spokes on a wheel). Point to point(DEN to JFK) high altitude traffic is angular as well. Picking out direct E-W N-S trails with precise lat/lon increments(not eyeballed done with software) in cleared airspace really stands out.

Don't forget that after Chicago chemtrail spraying, the airspace is opened for commercial traffic fairly quick(Chicago is busy airspace). We are looking at a MODIS satellite image that contain contrails from commercial traffic as well as unusual parallel E-W (Chem)trails.


Well, wow, didn't notice it so much in earlier months; but maybe I wasn't looking everyday. Today it was just completely obvious, it looked like a grid above my head. Granted there's always a shit ton of planes in the sky around here, it is a busy area for planes.
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In NY, we hadn't seen them for probably 6 months until just a few weeks ago.
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From other Thread . . .

Thread: how bad r chemtrails where u live?????? (Page 4)

Crusader, Interesting observations by -the-way, playing the Devil's Advocate, if I were trying to conceal my operations why would I stick to such a recognizable grid pattern? why would I not tilt it 45 degrees and scramble it from mission day to mission day? I can understand the need for a standard grid to guarantee total coverage but why be so obvious? coffee4

George B,
In Chicago the air traffic emanates radially from our two airports(like spokes on a wheel). Point to point(DEN to JFK) high altitude traffic is angular as well. Picking out direct E-W N-S trails with precise lat/lon increments(not eyeballed done with software) in cleared airspace really stands out.

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You then have seen strict adherence to longitude and latitude vectors in the satellite photos you have studied? If so, what is your theory for such behavior and how does it differ from normal flight paths? This is interesting. . . I don't think the OP would mind a small departure from the main subject. . . .it is very relative subject . . . peace



Let's not derail Tammy's thread, I've started a thread about the Chicago 11-4-11 trails here.
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But to answer you're question, are 'they' meant to fall to ground level? Could be CME or weather system related and meant to stay aloft.

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If what you say is true. . . .and the city is the immediate target. . . .the fall rate of the particulates must be very fast. . . and the strength and direction of the prevailing winds would be most important. . . .these factors would be as important or more so than the flight vectors . . .wouldn't you think?
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Why Bother?
In another thread of mine. Some business associates were at Navy Pier on the 9-20-11 Chicago Chemtrail Op. They were so impressed by the 'unusual' long clouds they even took IPhone pics of them! Returning to the office, I brought up the KC767 with 4 nozzles I had scoped that day spraying Chicago, right away they pulled out their Iphone to show me their pics! I asked if they were concerned about being sprayed that day... nobody cared. Gov't spooks read this stuff here, read my last post about this topic, they know they can spray Chicago with impunity. Nobody cares.

Crusader, Interesting observations by -the-way, playing the Devil's Advocate, if I were trying to conceal my operations why would I stick to such a recognizable grid pattern? why would I not tilt it 45 degrees and scramble it from mission day to mission day? I can understand the need for a standard grid to guarantee total coverage but why be so obvious?
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Crusader, Interesting observations by -the-way, playing the Devil's Advocate, if I were trying to conceal my operations why would I stick to such a recognizable grid pattern? why would I not tilt it 45 degrees and scramble it from mission day to mission day?
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From my boating experience(and modern Navionics) I can plot a complicated course using several waypoints(angle tilts) or just follow a lat/lon E-W/N-S course. The E-W/N-S course is much simpler.
btw the chemtrail increments are definitely GPS, not lat/lon degrees/min/secs, not statute/nautical miles, not waypoint locations.

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Yesterday was particularly nasty. Lot more N-S trails than usual.
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very heavy trails this morning over central illinois
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There still must be some pilot input involved(at this point) because of the 'daytime' spraying regime. Is it for 'touching up' areas, visual flying without transponders, feedback on coverage?
However, the Chicago operation seems perfected enough from what I've seen here to 'fly it by the numbers'.

An exception is the Chicago 9-20-11 Chemtrail Op. After spraying the outside chemtrail lines and working towards the middle with the KC767 4 main wing nozzles spraying. There was a 'touch up' pass up the center using only 2(inboard) nozzles because the adjoining chemtrails were too far apart.

Crusader, Interesting observations by -the-way, playing the Devil's Advocate, if I were trying to conceal my operations why would I stick to such a recognizable grid pattern? why would I not tilt it 45 degrees and scramble it from mission day to mission day?
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Crusader, Interesting observations by -the-way, playing the Devil's Advocate, if I were trying to conceal my operations why would I stick to such a recognizable grid pattern? why would I not tilt it 45 degrees and scramble it from mission day to mission day?
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From my boating experience(and modern Navionics) I can plot a complicated course using several waypoints(angle tilts) or just follow a lat/lon E-W/N-S course. The E-W/N-S course is much simpler.
btw the chemtrail increments are definitely GPS, not lat/lon degrees/min/secs, not statute/nautical miles, not waypoint locations.
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Why do you say it is GPS?

regarding your other observations. . . . Generally makes sense if you don't mind telegraphing what you are doing. . . With the grid pattern . . . Why have not civilian pilots observed such activity and reported it or at least talked within their own social group? seems the pilots are the most vocal against the Chemtrail theories?
Martin Luther King . . . Our lives begin to end the day we become silent about things that matter!

All truths are easy to understand once they are discovered; the point is to discover them.
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Noticed that myself today outside. It's been clear for the last few months as far as I can tell otherwise. What exactly do these chem trails do? (Loaded question, maybe, but without searching the interweb for a million sources...thought I'd ask here.)
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Its used either to keep real cloud fronts at bay off in the distance so the cities and other areas get little moisture with the spray overhead. The spray blocking the jet streams.

Or, on days with clouds rolling in (white moisture filled clouds), you can watch the sprayed lines turn into the black and grey stringy looking formations (you can see through these formations and they carry no moisture.) cling to the clouds. You can see these dark colors crawling all over these moisture filled cloud and you can see the cloud begin to break apart. Thats what the spray does. It break down real moisture filled clouds. Do you wonder why it looks like its going to rain from the looks of the dark formations and does not? Its a chemical blanket, a sticky, long lasting absorbent that takes water from the sky.

Don't take my word for it. Go watch yourself. Its the only way you'll know what this spray does.

The Earth's jet stream are gone. Go look. Twisted, half spins, clouds vertically standing up in a north south direction. Look at the clouds and the aerosol formations in a vertical lift which cannot form jet streams in this position. Look at any weather map and you'll see the vertical weather systems broken up and unable to move in their natural path.

There also is far more to this spray when it lands on the plant life, the soil and trees. All are suffering. Go and look at the plant life. Dead on top. White tree trunks means no ground water. Black limp branches unable to hold themselves up. Newly planted trees or shrubs die quickly from lack of oxygen, humidity, and ground water.


The planes spray a blanket of chemicals over people, what have you noticed in people? The blank stares? The inability to talk or say HI? Space cadets? The I don't know anything people who seem to be slowly losing their ability to think critically and make observation for themselves? Have people in your area gone inside these days? Streets empty of kids and people outside? Friends stop calling?

This spray blocks the natural water cycles human need to function. We are water and we to are suffocating from the spray which breaks down water in the air and on the ground and in us.
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Why do you say it is GPS?
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The decimals increment correctly.


regarding your other observations. . . . Generally makes sense if you don't mind telegraphing what you are doing. . . With the grid pattern . . . Why have not civilian pilots observed such activity and reported it or at least talked within their own social group? seems the pilots are the most vocal against the Chemtrail theories?
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Have you ever talked to a 'FAA controlled' employee, airport employee, airline employee, traffic control, etc.
There are things they 'will not' talk about(report) because of the repercussions. The mere mention of (chemtrails)impeding air traffic is a federal offense. I know the OHare ground employees who saw that object hovering over the runway, even talking about it was a federal offense.

seems the pilots are the most vocal against the Chemtrail theories?
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When they're grounded... reporting one will get your pilot license pulled(because they don't exist?).
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Why do you say it is GPS?
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The decimals increment correctly.


regarding your other observations. . . . Generally makes sense if you don't mind telegraphing what you are doing. . . With the grid pattern . . . Why have not civilian pilots observed such activity and reported it or at least talked within their own social group? seems the pilots are the most vocal against the Chemtrail theories?
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Have you ever talked to a 'FAA controlled' employee, airport employee, airline employee, traffic control, etc.
There are things they 'will not' talk about(report) because of the repercussions. The mere mention of (chemtrails)impeding air traffic is a federal offense. I know the OHare ground employees who saw that object hovering over the runway, even talking about it was a federal offense.

seems the pilots are the most vocal against the Chemtrail theories?
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When they're grounded... reporting one will get your pilot license pulled(because they don't exist?).
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I talked to an air traffic controller and they denied Chemtrails. They said "I do not know what your talking about". Then I described the flight formations, FAA block list, and that I had pictures of them spraying chemicals. Next, they flipped out and started calling me names and was kick out of their house.

If you think that was interesting, find someone who works at NASA. Ask them like I did, and you will get the same thing.


Yeah, they won't talk because they will get a 15K fine and loose their job.
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Why do you say it is GPS?
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The decimals increment correctly.


regarding your other observations. . . . Generally makes sense if you don't mind telegraphing what you are doing. . . With the grid pattern . . . Why have not civilian pilots observed such activity and reported it or at least talked within their own social group? seems the pilots are the most vocal against the Chemtrail theories?
 Quoting: George B

Have you ever talked to a 'FAA controlled' employee, airport employee, airline employee, traffic control, etc.
There are things they 'will not' talk about(report) because of the repercussions. The mere mention of (chemtrails)impeding air traffic is a federal offense. I know the OHare ground employees who saw that object hovering over the runway, even talking about it was a federal offense.

seems the pilots are the most vocal against the Chemtrail theories?
 Quoting: George B

When they're grounded... reporting one will get your pilot license pulled(because they don't exist?).
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I get the repercussions issue . . . I know pilots are very reluctant to report UFOs because they could be grounded . . . I don't get the Federal Law angle . . . and why wouldn't grounded pilots at least be honest and open up in an anonymous manner on a blog or forum like this?
Martin Luther King . . . Our lives begin to end the day we become silent about things that matter!

All truths are easy to understand once they are discovered; the point is to discover them.
Galileo Galilei, Italian astronomer & physicist (1564 - 1642)

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Why do you say it is GPS?
 Quoting: George B

The decimals increment correctly.


regarding your other observations. . . . Generally makes sense if you don't mind telegraphing what you are doing. . . With the grid pattern . . . Why have not civilian pilots observed such activity and reported it or at least talked within their own social group? seems the pilots are the most vocal against the Chemtrail theories?
 Quoting: George B

Have you ever talked to a 'FAA controlled' employee, airport employee, airline employee, traffic control, etc.
There are things they 'will not' talk about(report) because of the repercussions. The mere mention of (chemtrails)impeding air traffic is a federal offense. I know the OHare ground employees who saw that object hovering over the runway, even talking about it was a federal offense.

seems the pilots are the most vocal against the Chemtrail theories?
 Quoting: George B

When they're grounded... reporting one will get your pilot license pulled(because they don't exist?).
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I get the repercussions issue . . . I know pilots are very reluctant to report UFOs because they could be grounded . . . I don't get the Federal Law angle . . . and why wouldn't grounded pilots at least be honest and open up in an anonymous manner on a blog or forum like this?
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George. That is different.

We have posted thousands of videos and pictures of Chemtrails. EVERY DAY! Step outside now and you will see a Chemtrail plane spraying that is not a commercial plane that we can track.

Do not compare us to the UFO Conspiracy.
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Why do you say it is GPS?
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The decimals increment correctly.


regarding your other observations. . . . Generally makes sense if you don't mind telegraphing what you are doing. . . With the grid pattern . . . Why have not civilian pilots observed such activity and reported it or at least talked within their own social group? seems the pilots are the most vocal against the Chemtrail theories?
 Quoting: George B

Have you ever talked to a 'FAA controlled' employee, airport employee, airline employee, traffic control, etc.
There are things they 'will not' talk about(report) because of the repercussions. The mere mention of (chemtrails)impeding air traffic is a federal offense. I know the OHare ground employees who saw that object hovering over the runway, even talking about it was a federal offense.

seems the pilots are the most vocal against the Chemtrail theories?
 Quoting: George B

When they're grounded... reporting one will get your pilot license pulled(because they don't exist?).
 Quoting: uscrusader1


I get the repercussions issue . . . I know pilots are very reluctant to report
UFOs because they could be grounded . . . I don't get the Federal Law angle . . . and why wouldn't grounded pilots at least be honest and open up in an anonymous manner on a blog or forum like this?
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George. That is different.

We have posted thousands of videos and pictures of Chemtrails. EVERY DAY! Step outside now and you will see a Chemtrail plane spraying that is not a commercial plane that we can track.

Do not compare us to the UFO Conspiracy.
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I am not comparing the two . . . I'm trying to understand why people knowing possibly what might be going on will not at least volunteer some info or encourage people to investigate . . . Especially if it is no risk to themselves or their loved ones . . . peace
Martin Luther King . . . Our lives begin to end the day we become silent about things that matter!

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Expect increased chemtrailing to absorb the radiation from Fukushima.
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Expect increased chemtrailing to absorb the radiation from Fukushima.
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Interesting concept . . . But what is the science behind the efforts? I don't know what can neutralize harmful radiation . . . ? You can use shields, you maybe can bind particulate and make it fall out of the air faster. . . rain can do that. . . What are you purposing? . .
Martin Luther King . . . Our lives begin to end the day we become silent about things that matter!

All truths are easy to understand once they are discovered; the point is to discover them.
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