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Let's face it, most Americans hate freedom

 
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Let's face it, most Americans hate freedom
Liberals want to ban guns, ban homeschooling, force vaccines on people, want to restrict free speech when it's about religion or talking about any issue they disagree with...

``Conservatives`` want to ban homosexuals, want to ban gay marriage, want to ban drugs, want to put people in jail for things that shouldn't be crimes, want to restrict free speech when it's about religion, want to ban abortion, etc...



Then there's people in the middle, libertarians, who want to leave anyone do what the fuck they want to the limits of reasons.


Libertarians, like me, are almost alone in this world. Fascists on both sides of the isle trying to restrict freedom.
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Liberals want to ban guns, ban homeschooling, force vaccines on people, want to restrict free speech when it's about religion or talking about any issue they disagree with...

``Conservatives`` want to ban homosexuals, want to ban gay marriage, want to ban drugs, want to put people in jail for things that shouldn't be crimes, want to restrict free speech when it's about religion, want to ban abortion, etc...



Then there's people in the middle, libertarians, who want to leave anyone do what the fuck they want to the limits of reasons.


Libertarians, like me, are almost alone in this world. Fascists on both sides of the isle trying to restrict freedom.
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Re: Let's face it, most Americans hate freedom
That's not just americans. Almost everyone in the world is like that. Trying to ban or restrict what they disagree with.


FREEDOM BITCHES, DON'T LIKE IT, FUCKING MOVE TO NORTH KOREA.
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Re: Let's face it, most Americans hate freedom
Agreed, Libertarians are the only ones who want true freedom and liberty!
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Re: Let's face it, most Americans hate freedom
Why is always people from other countries talking about what Americans love or hate??
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Re: Let's face it, most Americans hate freedom
I don't think most Americans "hate" freedom, they don't understand what freedom really means.

Personal responsibility.
I'm a Libertarian Constitutionalist.

I don't give a shit what you do with your own life, whether you make it a success or a failure, that is the outcome of the choices you make, but please take responsibility for yourself and don't make ME pay for YOUR choices and we're all good.

Repeal the 17th Amendment and the Apportionment Act of 1911!

Thread: First steps down the road to a return to the Constitutional Republic that we were intended to be.

Restore the Republic.

It's a flower, not something to be feared.

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Re: Let's face it, most Americans hate freedom
Libertarians, like me, are almost alone in this world. Fascists on both sides of the isle trying to restrict freedom.
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Re: Let's face it, most Americans hate freedom
I don't think most Americans "hate" freedom, they don't understand what freedom really means.

Personal responsibility.
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I think you're right. To me it means; you want to be religious, fine. But don't make me believe what you do. You don't want a gun, great. But don't try and take mine. Someone wants to be gay, cool. But don't tell me I can't think it's wrong. You don't want to smoke weed, awesome. But don't tell me I can't burn one when I get home from working all damn day to take care of my responsibilities. And etc...
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Re: Let's face it, most Americans hate freedom
I don't think most Americans "hate" freedom, they don't understand what freedom really means.

Personal responsibility.
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I think you're right. To me it means; you want to be religious, fine. But don't make me believe what you do. You don't want a gun, great. But don't try and take mine. Someone wants to be gay, cool. But don't tell me I can't think it's wrong. You don't want to smoke weed, awesome. But don't tell me I can't burn one when I get home from working all damn day to take care of my responsibilities. And etc...
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+1000000000000000000000000
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Re: Let's face it, most Americans hate freedom
I don't think most Americans "hate" freedom, they don't understand what freedom really means.

Personal responsibility.
 Quoting: Anonymous Cowherder


I think you're right. To me it means; you want to be religious, fine. But don't make me believe what you do. You don't want a gun, great. But don't try and take mine. Someone wants to be gay, cool. But don't tell me I can't think it's wrong. You don't want to smoke weed, awesome. But don't tell me I can't burn one when I get home from working all damn day to take care of my responsibilities. And etc...
 Quoting: Evan03


exactly. In my personal life, other than my selection of recreational activity, I am rather conservative but I also realize that I have no right to impose my personal beliefs on others, I can try to instill them in my children but my authority to mandate does not extend beyond my personal property and body.
I'm a Libertarian Constitutionalist.

I don't give a shit what you do with your own life, whether you make it a success or a failure, that is the outcome of the choices you make, but please take responsibility for yourself and don't make ME pay for YOUR choices and we're all good.

Repeal the 17th Amendment and the Apportionment Act of 1911!

Thread: First steps down the road to a return to the Constitutional Republic that we were intended to be.

Restore the Republic.

It's a flower, not something to be feared.

cow - Moo!
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Re: Let's face it, most Americans hate freedom
I don't think most Americans "hate" freedom, they don't understand what freedom really means.

Personal responsibility.
 Quoting: Anonymous Cowherder


I think you're right. To me it means; you want to be religious, fine. But don't make me believe what you do. You don't want a gun, great. But don't try and take mine. Someone wants to be gay, cool. But don't tell me I can't think it's wrong. You don't want to smoke weed, awesome. But don't tell me I can't burn one when I get home from working all damn day to take care of my responsibilities. And etc...
 Quoting: Evan03


+1000000000000000000000000
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We should be allowed to believe in anything we want to believe...

Fuck those control freaks trying to dictate what we should learn and cannot learn...
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Re: Let's face it, most Americans hate freedom
Well Seeing as how Most Candidates are from George Town University (well known Jesuit University)

The Idea that there is a left or a right or a middle is a big fat joke (that Vatican city must giggle themselves to sleep every night over)

Obama and Clinton both went to George Town and they both shagged all America's whilst in the office

I think most American's did come to America for its Freedom's

But now That Freedom is drying up
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Re: Let's face it, most Americans hate freedom
I don't think most Americans "hate" freedom, they don't understand what freedom really means.

Personal responsibility.
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negative

freedom is freedom

success is success

bad parrot
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Re: Let's face it, most Americans hate freedom
I don't think most Americans "hate" freedom, they don't understand what freedom really means.

Personal responsibility.
 Quoting: Anonymous Cowherder


negative

freedom is freedom

success is success

bad parrot
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huh
I'm a Libertarian Constitutionalist.

I don't give a shit what you do with your own life, whether you make it a success or a failure, that is the outcome of the choices you make, but please take responsibility for yourself and don't make ME pay for YOUR choices and we're all good.

Repeal the 17th Amendment and the Apportionment Act of 1911!

Thread: First steps down the road to a return to the Constitutional Republic that we were intended to be.

Restore the Republic.

It's a flower, not something to be feared.

cow - Moo!
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Re: Let's face it, most Americans hate freedom
I don't think most Americans "hate" freedom, they don't understand what freedom really means.

Personal responsibility.
 Quoting: Anonymous Cowherder


I think you're right. To me it means; you want to be religious, fine. But don't make me believe what you do. You don't want a gun, great. But don't try and take mine. Someone wants to be gay, cool. But don't tell me I can't think it's wrong. You don't want to smoke weed, awesome. But don't tell me I can't burn one when I get home from working all damn day to take care of my responsibilities. And etc...
 Quoting: Evan03


exactly. In my personal life, other than my selection of recreational activity, I am rather conservative but I also realize that I have no right to impose my personal beliefs on others, I can try to instill them in my children but my authority to mandate does not extend beyond my personal property and body.
 Quoting: Anonymous Cowherder


That pretty much sums it up.

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Re: Let's face it, most Americans hate freedom
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progressive libertarian (theodore roosevelt-ian), and anti-federal reserve

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Re: Let's face it, most Americans hate freedom
Freedom with no accountability isnt freedom.
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Re: Let's face it, most Americans hate freedom
Freedom is sort of vague value. For example if you have freedom of religion and one religion's dogma is to dominate and enslave non-members of their religion then this freedom is the cause of slavery for many.

Think about it.
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Re: Let's face it, most Americans hate freedom
Freedom is sort of vague value. For example if you have freedom of religion and one religion's dogma is to dominate and enslave non-members of their religion then this freedom is the cause of slavery for many.

Think about it.
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Except nobody is gonna fucking join that. And if they start killing people, the army is gonna mow them down.
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Re: Let's face it, most Americans hate freedom
Freedom is sort of vague value. For example if you have freedom of religion and one religion's dogma is to dominate and enslave non-members of their religion then this freedom is the cause of slavery for many.

Think about it.
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Thats called tyranny. Everyone is a tyrant , desperately trying to carve out a small corner of what they perceive as sane , stabbing you in the back and laughing with one foot in their own grave.
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Re: Let's face it, most Americans hate freedom
I don't think most Americans "hate" freedom, they don't understand what freedom really means.

Personal responsibility.
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oh they hate freedom whether they call it that or not. they ask for more and more control.
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Re: Let's face it, most Americans hate freedom
You obviously have no idea what a conservative is.

We don't want to ban homosexuality, we just don't want the government to teach it as normal to our children. We do want to preserve traditional marriage. But if you want to have some sort of commitment ceremony, as long as you don't demand to me recognized by the state, then have at it.

And yes, we want to protect the lives of everyone, including the unborn.

I personally don't care what drugs you use, but some conservatives and some liberals do. If you look at where all the drug and alcohol laws originated from, it's the liberals and not conservatives.

What are the things that we want to lock you up for that should be legal?????

To some up conservatism. Leave me alone, and don't hurt anyone, and you and I will get along fine.
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You obviously have no idea what a conservative is.

We don't want to ban homosexuality, we just don't want the government to teach it as normal to our children. We do want to preserve traditional marriage. But if you want to have some sort of commitment ceremony, as long as you don't demand to me recognized by the state, then have at it.

And yes, we want to protect the lives of everyone, including the unborn.

I personally don't care what drugs you use, but some conservatives and some liberals do. If you look at where all the drug and alcohol laws originated from, it's the liberals and not conservatives.

What are the things that we want to lock you up for that should be legal?????

To some up conservatism. Leave me alone, and don't hurt anyone, and you and I will get along fine.
 Quoting: samanthasunflower


What if one religion wants to turn your children into homosexual slaves because it's required by their religion and they also more conservative then you?
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Yeah OP no reason we shouldnt have heroin and crack pushed on inner city youth....dopey Canadian!
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Re: Let's face it, most Americans hate freedom
Why is always people from other countries talking about what Americans love or hate??
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Canada is in NORTH AMERICA, therefor residents of it are AMERICANS.

No, really. America includes Canada...

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Re: Let's face it, most Americans hate freedom
When I was a liberal I wanted none of these things:

Liberals want to ban guns, ban homeschooling, force vaccines on people, want to restrict free speech when it's about religion or talking about any issue they disagree with
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Re: Let's face it, most Americans hate freedom
Why is always people from other countries talking about what Americans love or hate??
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AMEN!!!! and you barely see any post of Americans complaining about the way things are in other countries. It's almost like this country is the mean popular girl in school that people can't stop talking about or constantly paying attention to her every move. They pay attention to every move just so they can criticize it to death. My opinion is that if see Americas' flaws then be grateful you don't live here and that you don't have to put up with it and move the fuck on.
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Why is always people from other countries talking about what Americans love or hate??
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AMEN!!!! and you barely see any post of Americans complaining about the way things are in other countries. It's almost like this country is the mean popular girl in school that people can't stop talking about or constantly paying attention to her every move. They pay attention to every move just so they can criticize it to death. My opinion is that if see Americas' flaws then be grateful you don't live here and that you don't have to put up with it and move the fuck on.
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OP said in his second post that it's the entire world, not just America is like that.
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Re: Let's face it, most Americans hate freedom
define freedom
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Why is always people from other countries talking about what Americans love or hate??
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Because most of you are brain dead!

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