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Are you prepared for the afterlife? Bardo 1-3 of the Tibetan Book of the Dead

 
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nice thread OP

The quest for enlightenment is the strangest thing ever
truly, it is seeking your own annihilation
very few have the kahunas to surrender everything
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Who says it's true? Oh wait - the Tibetans laugh
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That sucks.
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This will take some time to read through.. will do that later.
I had the chance to read part of it and it sounds like you would be getting to know your own system on a cellular level... this is not something a person can do in a week or two.. this will take years of dedication to the practice.
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I have been practicing meditation for two years now, with loose dedication. I am nowhere near the path of enlightenment, but there is a purpose now....it's very fulfilling. A wave of peace and serenity has engulfed my being as of late, along with that however is a feeling of detachment from my surroundings....yet, it is accepted because reality is merely an illusory projection anyway. A mere "shadow" of energy, which pervades outward from the source.

Anyway, I'm done rambling, thanks for dropping in! Much respect.

peace
 Quoting: Moris Code


OP what changes have you actually noticed during your two years of meditation? The reason I ask is because I have only been loosely meditating for about six months along with energy work and I have found the world is very different than when I focused on material objects and my Ego. I still have a long way to go but I enjoy the ride. Almost everything I enjoyed has now changed into new activities. Music and Nature has really came to life. What do you do to increase your Chi? Do you sun gaze, work with crystals or any type of energy healing?

I have started doing those few items and my energy has increased along with synchronicity of events.

Peace to you
Amy
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Um just so you would know that text is not the Tibetan Book of the Dead.
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How dare you expose the frauds who have read it twice?
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meditation is good, but don't get lost in technique

but true progress occurs when thoughts can be silenced

saying that causes great debate
(usually by those who can't stop thinking)
and that doesn't mean entirely

but it is a valuable key
and the others reveal themselves
after you have mastered this one
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Is after life really a fake??? I just want to know like everybody else. I have lots of fear and I know that is not the answer either. I haven't yet read the links but I will I think that you are a really nice human OP and am looking for answers just like you.
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Is after life really a fake??? I just want to know like everybody else. I have lots of fear and I know that is not the answer either. I haven't yet read the links but I will I think that you are a really nice human OP and am looking for answers just like you.
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The answer is relative to the question. The longer you ask and the further you search, the greater the answer. If you expect an answer without searching, the answer will be just as shallow as your attention to the question. Have fun swimming.
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thank you for taking the time to read what i wrote and writing back, that in itself speaks volumes to me. This is my first write on this website weither you believe it or not. I agree I am always looking for the easy way out, but do you ever just feel so alone that you want someone to agree with you weither they believe it or not???
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Om Mani Padme Hum
I
"The second phenomenon might be called "biological life-flow." Here the person becomes aware of physiological and biochemical processes; rhythmic pulsing activity within the body. Often this may be sensed as powerful motors or generators continously throbbing and radiating energy. An endless flow of cellular forms and colors flashes by. Internal biological processes may also be heard with characteristic swooshing, crackling, and pounding noises. Again the person must resist the temptation to label or control these processes. At this point you are tuned in to areas of the nervous system which are inaccessible to routine perception. You cannot drag your ego into the molecular processes of life. These processes are a billion years older than the learned conceptual mind."


 Quoting: Moris Code


yes, Om Mani Padme Hum


OP, thank you for this post. I am quite amazed reading about "biological life flow." I had always thought that hearing fluids, feeling hair grow, and being able to see the vicious matter within my eyes (under certain circumstances) was natural to everyone, yet, when I've mentioned this to others, they seem to think I am exaggerating -to put it mildly.

Having gotten caught up in life's obstacles, my journey has been suffering from many starts and pauses. The essence is in place, but the mind tends to wander with the wind.

Perhaps it's time to finally read this book. Thanks for the remimder and for posting an inspiring thread!hf
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nice thread OP

The quest for enlightenment is the strangest thing ever
truly, it is seeking your own annihilation
very few have the kahunas to surrender everything
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It is an odd path, but as all cognitive humans are we seek answers. The funny thing is, when you finally find it, you realize that it never really mattered. Living in the moment is key....saying it is 6 billion times easier than doing it however. Much respect hf
We all live within a GIANT electromagnetic, hyper dimensional, quantum virtual bhater that literally responds to our emotional body and plays back to us that which we are. Choose the right vibrations to play back :D
And as for you and me.... the shifts in the masses collective consciousness continue to increase in amplitude, we can guarantee that the world will be a very different place in 10 years, 5 years, even 2 years. There are a multitude of Urgent, Critical and Crucial issues which our species and the Governing Structures of our Planet must confront.
It is time for this species to really get down to putting some thought into what our continued behavior will manifest as the future unfolds. If we allow ourselfs to run rampant and continue along the pathway that we are headed, we will short circuit this process and completely annihilate our entire developed level of civilization.

It is now time for you to begin to come together and put everything out into the open and on the table.
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This will take some time to read through.. will do that later.
I had the chance to read part of it and it sounds like you would be getting to know your own system on a cellular level... this is not something a person can do in a week or two.. this will take years of dedication to the practice.
 Quoting: my2centsworth


I have been practicing meditation for two years now, with loose dedication. I am nowhere near the path of enlightenment, but there is a purpose now....it's very fulfilling. A wave of peace and serenity has engulfed my being as of late, along with that however is a feeling of detachment from my surroundings....yet, it is accepted because reality is merely an illusory projection anyway. A mere "shadow" of energy, which pervades outward from the source.

Anyway, I'm done rambling, thanks for dropping in! Much respect.

peace
 Quoting: Moris Code


OP what changes have you actually noticed during your two years of meditation? The reason I ask is because I have only been loosely meditating for about six months along with energy work and I have found the world is very different than when I focused on material objects and my Ego. I still have a long way to go but I enjoy the ride. Almost everything I enjoyed has now changed into new activities. Music and Nature has really came to life. What do you do to increase your Chi? Do you sun gaze, work with crystals or any type of energy healing?

I have started doing those few items and my energy has increased along with synchronicity of events.

Peace to you
 Quoting: Amy_A


My creativity has expanded exponentially and has helped my musical output greatly. My mind has more clarity and precision. My thoughts do not run as loosely as they used to, because i am analyzing them. It truly is a paradigm switch going from an ego filled life to more of an "Atman" approach. Haven't really worked much on my chi output, i do meditate with a quartz crystal that means a lot to me because of who gave it to me....but that's about it. My preferred meditation spot is out in the woods, sitting on a rock overhang with the river bottom and fields below me. Very serene spot...
It is funny how much more your aware of synchronizations isn't it?
Peace to you as well, namaste!

peace
We all live within a GIANT electromagnetic, hyper dimensional, quantum virtual bhater that literally responds to our emotional body and plays back to us that which we are. Choose the right vibrations to play back :D
And as for you and me.... the shifts in the masses collective consciousness continue to increase in amplitude, we can guarantee that the world will be a very different place in 10 years, 5 years, even 2 years. There are a multitude of Urgent, Critical and Crucial issues which our species and the Governing Structures of our Planet must confront.
It is time for this species to really get down to putting some thought into what our continued behavior will manifest as the future unfolds. If we allow ourselfs to run rampant and continue along the pathway that we are headed, we will short circuit this process and completely annihilate our entire developed level of civilization.

It is now time for you to begin to come together and put everything out into the open and on the table.
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meditation is good, but don't get lost in technique

but true progress occurs when thoughts can be silenced

saying that causes great debate
(usually by those who can't stop thinking)
and that doesn't mean entirely

but it is a valuable key
and the others reveal themselves
after you have mastered this one
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 4625381


Some days are better than others quieting the mind. Can be a real bitch sometimes ^_^. Your right though, that is where progress begins! Thanks for dropping in!
We all live within a GIANT electromagnetic, hyper dimensional, quantum virtual bhater that literally responds to our emotional body and plays back to us that which we are. Choose the right vibrations to play back :D
And as for you and me.... the shifts in the masses collective consciousness continue to increase in amplitude, we can guarantee that the world will be a very different place in 10 years, 5 years, even 2 years. There are a multitude of Urgent, Critical and Crucial issues which our species and the Governing Structures of our Planet must confront.
It is time for this species to really get down to putting some thought into what our continued behavior will manifest as the future unfolds. If we allow ourselfs to run rampant and continue along the pathway that we are headed, we will short circuit this process and completely annihilate our entire developed level of civilization.

It is now time for you to begin to come together and put everything out into the open and on the table.
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Is after life really a fake??? I just want to know like everybody else. I have lots of fear and I know that is not the answer either. I haven't yet read the links but I will I think that you are a really nice human OP and am looking for answers just like you.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 4637271


The answer is relative to the question. The longer you ask and the further you search, the greater the answer. If you expect an answer without searching, the answer will be just as shallow as your attention to the question. Have fun swimming.
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Fear is definitely not a wise choice, sometimes it is rather hard to overcome though...Trust in yourself, you already have the answers, you just need to start digging. May you have a safe and loving journey in this life!

peace
We all live within a GIANT electromagnetic, hyper dimensional, quantum virtual bhater that literally responds to our emotional body and plays back to us that which we are. Choose the right vibrations to play back :D
And as for you and me.... the shifts in the masses collective consciousness continue to increase in amplitude, we can guarantee that the world will be a very different place in 10 years, 5 years, even 2 years. There are a multitude of Urgent, Critical and Crucial issues which our species and the Governing Structures of our Planet must confront.
It is time for this species to really get down to putting some thought into what our continued behavior will manifest as the future unfolds. If we allow ourselfs to run rampant and continue along the pathway that we are headed, we will short circuit this process and completely annihilate our entire developed level of civilization.

It is now time for you to begin to come together and put everything out into the open and on the table.
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Om Mani Padme Hum
I
"The second phenomenon might be called "biological life-flow." Here the person becomes aware of physiological and biochemical processes; rhythmic pulsing activity within the body. Often this may be sensed as powerful motors or generators continously throbbing and radiating energy. An endless flow of cellular forms and colors flashes by. Internal biological processes may also be heard with characteristic swooshing, crackling, and pounding noises. Again the person must resist the temptation to label or control these processes. At this point you are tuned in to areas of the nervous system which are inaccessible to routine perception. You cannot drag your ego into the molecular processes of life. These processes are a billion years older than the learned conceptual mind."


 Quoting: Moris Code


yes, Om Mani Padme Hum


OP, thank you for this post. I am quite amazed reading about "biological life flow." I had always thought that hearing fluids, feeling hair grow, and being able to see the vicious matter within my eyes (under certain circumstances) was natural to everyone, yet, when I've mentioned this to others, they seem to think I am exaggerating -to put it mildly.

Having gotten caught up in life's obstacles, my journey has been suffering from many starts and pauses. The essence is in place, but the mind tends to wander with the wind.

Perhaps it's time to finally read this book. Thanks for the remimder and for posting an inspiring thread!hf
 Quoting: Esoteric Morgan


It becomes natural to those who choose to listen and see. However, their are many partially blind and deaf souls surrounding us. They will know when their time is right...your very welcome and thanks for dropping in!
yoda
We all live within a GIANT electromagnetic, hyper dimensional, quantum virtual bhater that literally responds to our emotional body and plays back to us that which we are. Choose the right vibrations to play back :D
And as for you and me.... the shifts in the masses collective consciousness continue to increase in amplitude, we can guarantee that the world will be a very different place in 10 years, 5 years, even 2 years. There are a multitude of Urgent, Critical and Crucial issues which our species and the Governing Structures of our Planet must confront.
It is time for this species to really get down to putting some thought into what our continued behavior will manifest as the future unfolds. If we allow ourselfs to run rampant and continue along the pathway that we are headed, we will short circuit this process and completely annihilate our entire developed level of civilization.

It is now time for you to begin to come together and put everything out into the open and on the table.
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we will be free when we can handle the truth
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we will be free when we can handle the truth
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Namaste
We all live within a GIANT electromagnetic, hyper dimensional, quantum virtual bhater that literally responds to our emotional body and plays back to us that which we are. Choose the right vibrations to play back :D
And as for you and me.... the shifts in the masses collective consciousness continue to increase in amplitude, we can guarantee that the world will be a very different place in 10 years, 5 years, even 2 years. There are a multitude of Urgent, Critical and Crucial issues which our species and the Governing Structures of our Planet must confront.
It is time for this species to really get down to putting some thought into what our continued behavior will manifest as the future unfolds. If we allow ourselfs to run rampant and continue along the pathway that we are headed, we will short circuit this process and completely annihilate our entire developed level of civilization.

It is now time for you to begin to come together and put everything out into the open and on the table.
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...how is it a trap? I'm simply trying to help alleviate stress and loosen the bonds of our egotistical and materialistic society by spreading knowledge.
 Quoting: Moris Code


All religion is a trap. Yes, Tibetan Buddhism is religion by the way. Really all you are doing is spreading recycled mythology. Like Joseph Campbell says in his book 'The hero with a thousand faces',

Whether we listen with aloof amusement to the dreamlike mumbo jumbo of some red-eyed witch doctor of the Congo, or read with cultivated rapture thin translations from the sonnets of the mystic Lao-tse; now and again crack the hard nutshell of an argument of Aquinas, or catch suddenly the shining meaning of a bizarre Eskimo fairy tale: it will be always the one, shapeshifting yet marvelously constant story that we find, together with a challengingly persistent suggestion of more remaining to be experienced than will ever be known or told.
 Quoting: ChopinRocks


All religions have the problem of having someone be brave enough to open the Door and witness the Infinite. The problem comes in when the instant the data from the infinite realm passes through the Door into the finite realm it is a contaminated shadow at best. Pure infinite data cannot be expressed in the finite realm, never mind FULLY processed by the human brain. But that doesn't mean it is not there. It just can't be transposed into finite realm communications means. This Door is there for everyone brave enough to open it.
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...how is it a trap? I'm simply trying to help alleviate stress and loosen the bonds of our egotistical and materialistic society by spreading knowledge.
 Quoting: Moris Code


All religion is a trap. Yes, Tibetan Buddhism is religion by the way. Really all you are doing is spreading recycled mythology. Like Joseph Campbell says in his book 'The hero with a thousand faces',

Whether we listen with aloof amusement to the dreamlike mumbo jumbo of some red-eyed witch doctor of the Congo, or read with cultivated rapture thin translations from the sonnets of the mystic Lao-tse; now and again crack the hard nutshell of an argument of Aquinas, or catch suddenly the shining meaning of a bizarre Eskimo fairy tale: it will be always the one, shapeshifting yet marvelously constant story that we find, together with a challengingly persistent suggestion of more remaining to be experienced than will ever be known or told.
 Quoting: ChopinRocks


All religions have the problem of having someone be brave enough to open the Door and witness the Infinite. The problem comes in when the instant the data from the infinite realm passes through the Door into the finite realm it is a contaminated shadow at best. Pure infinite data cannot be expressed in the finite realm, never mind FULLY processed by the human brain. But that doesn't mean it is not there. It just can't be transposed into finite realm communications means. This Door is there for everyone brave enough to open it.
 Quoting: tkwasny


TRUTH.
We all live within a GIANT electromagnetic, hyper dimensional, quantum virtual bhater that literally responds to our emotional body and plays back to us that which we are. Choose the right vibrations to play back :D
And as for you and me.... the shifts in the masses collective consciousness continue to increase in amplitude, we can guarantee that the world will be a very different place in 10 years, 5 years, even 2 years. There are a multitude of Urgent, Critical and Crucial issues which our species and the Governing Structures of our Planet must confront.
It is time for this species to really get down to putting some thought into what our continued behavior will manifest as the future unfolds. If we allow ourselfs to run rampant and continue along the pathway that we are headed, we will short circuit this process and completely annihilate our entire developed level of civilization.

It is now time for you to begin to come together and put everything out into the open and on the table.
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.....bump.....
We all live within a GIANT electromagnetic, hyper dimensional, quantum virtual bhater that literally responds to our emotional body and plays back to us that which we are. Choose the right vibrations to play back :D
And as for you and me.... the shifts in the masses collective consciousness continue to increase in amplitude, we can guarantee that the world will be a very different place in 10 years, 5 years, even 2 years. There are a multitude of Urgent, Critical and Crucial issues which our species and the Governing Structures of our Planet must confront.
It is time for this species to really get down to putting some thought into what our continued behavior will manifest as the future unfolds. If we allow ourselfs to run rampant and continue along the pathway that we are headed, we will short circuit this process and completely annihilate our entire developed level of civilization.

It is now time for you to begin to come together and put everything out into the open and on the table.
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The answer is relative to the question. The longer you ask and the further you search, the greater the answer. If you expect an answer without searching, the answer will be just as shallow as your attention to the question. Have fun swimming.
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Fear is definitely not a wise choice, sometimes it is rather hard to overcome though...Trust in yourself, you already have the answers, you just need to start digging. May you have a safe and loving journey in this life!

peace
 Quoting: Moris Code


The secret to happiness is to balance the self.
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This is something I hold very highly in my life and thought it would be nice to share. You must walk the middle path to fully appreciate the beauty that surrounds you. Accept your life, no matter what faults you may have....you can change. You are change. Live the life you want to live.

Om Mani Padme Hum

Intro- [link to www.lycaeum.org]

First Bardo- [link to www.lycaeum.org]

Second Bardo- [link to www.lycaeum.org]

Third Bardo- [link to www.lycaeum.org]



"The first sign is the glimpsing of the "Clear Light of Reality," "the infallible mind of the pure mystic state." This is the awareness of energy transformations with no imposition of mental categories."

"The second phenomenon might be called "biological life-flow." Here the person becomes aware of physiological and biochemical processes; rhythmic pulsing activity within the body. Often this may be sensed as powerful motors or generators continously throbbing and radiating energy. An endless flow of cellular forms and colors flashes by. Internal biological processes may also be heard with characteristic swooshing, crackling, and pounding noises. Again the person must resist the temptation to label or control these processes. At this point you are tuned in to areas of the nervous system which are inaccessible to routine perception. You cannot drag your ego into the molecular processes of life. These processes are a billion years older than the learned conceptual mind."



"At this point, it is necessary to inject a word of benign warning. Reading this manual is extremely useful, but no words can communicate experience."
 Quoting: Moris Code


Nice intro there.

BTW, if you're specially interested in this, I found Shambhala of the Kalachakra (of the Tibetan Ngorpa School).
Dragpo Korlochen is Tibetan name of King of Shambhala(Buddhism's World Messiah)of Tibetan Tantric Buddhisms Kalachakra Apocalypse.Found Antichrist ie.Obama(real name Barry Parks)kin to WBC/Bush,Clinton, Palin,Perot,Hunt,Palin,Ayers,Cheney. King of Shambhala=ex-Buddhist King in Syria/Irak (Baghdad)
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The bardo was rejected by many Buddhists as false teaching. Stop your bullshit.





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