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John Goz (OP) User ID: 4576018 United States 11/06/2011 08:33 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | As a god worshipped by the Phoenicians, Moloch had associations with a particular kind of propitiatory child sacrifice by parents. He figures in the Hebrew Bible (II Kings 23:10; Jer. 32:35, etc) and has been used figuratively in English literature from John Milton's Paradise Lost (1667) to Allen Ginsberg's Howl (1955). In modern English he is often used to refer to a person or thing demanding or requiring a very costly sacrifice. [link to en.wikipedia.org] We are all No bodies until someone recognizes us as Some bodies. |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 1480193 United States 11/06/2011 09:01 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Yes because the ancients being fairly dumb themselves thought of the owl as wise. Because it would see and find and come and pounce on a mouse a mile away. Surely it must be smart and wise right? It has a sixth sense? Being able to do that? Well no, it just has really really good long distance vision. But its vision is fairly shitty for anything else. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 1480193 United States 11/06/2011 09:05 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | [link to en.wikipedia.org] The modern West generally associates owls with wisdom. This link goes back at least as far as Ancient Greece, where Athens, noted for art and scholarship, and Athena, Athens' patron goddess and the goddess of wisdom, had the owl as a symbol. |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 1480193 United States 11/06/2011 09:17 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Its not its eyes its its neural processing method which makes its vision great for long distance at night kind of like a rifle scope with night vision. But it really has lousy vision for anything else it can not even see a lizard right next to it. |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 4750204 United States 11/06/2011 09:24 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | If you were to look out through a window into an owls natural habitat and it was looking back at you would you find it threatening? Probably not. What if what you're looking at is what you have been programmed to see and not wht it really is. Why have so many cultures given similar credence to the owls abilities to bring secrets and knowledge. [link to www.whats-your-sign.com] |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 1480193 United States 11/06/2011 09:45 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | If you were to look out through a window into an owls natural habitat and it was looking back at you would you find it threatening? Probably not. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 4750204 What if what you're looking at is what you have been programmed to see and not wht it really is. Why have so many cultures given similar credence to the owls abilities to bring secrets and knowledge. [link to www.whats-your-sign.com] That's bullshit the owl has long been associated with a bad omen that's where its basis comes from. Because they would show up before bad weather and other disasters. |
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StopDrinkingTheKoolAid User ID: 4757419 United States 11/06/2011 09:47 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | The owl symbolism has NOTHING to do with Molech, which is a bull. That information has been circulating since "the loud mouths" incorrect interpretation of the Bohemian Grove owl and to be perfectly honest, I think that he did that on purpose, as it subverted the true meaning and what was happening in the ritual, so much so that people are STILL referring to the owl as Molech. The owl is a symbol of wisdom. Thus the term "wise old owl"...The owl is almost always depicted with or in conjunction with the Goddess figure and could best be explained like "the holy spirit" (not suggesting that the concepts are one-in-the-same) The owl is the hidden wisdom, the gnosis that only a few have come to the knowledge of. Perhaps a better way to explain would be to say that the owl represents the imparted knowledge and wisdom OF the Goddess and is written about extensively in Kabbalistic material. It is probably one of the more important figures to the Mystery School knowledge base. It is shown frequently on emblems or symbols relating to collegiate sororities and fraternities for the obvious implications. Molech is probably one of the older deity figures and has ALWAYS...I repeat ALWAYS been represented as a bull. It is mentioned in the bible, in relation to the "idol" that the Israelites were worshiping when Moses came down from the mountain and I believe mentioned again in the new testament. The key here is to DO THE RESEARCH. Then and only then can these esoteric symbols be brought to light, rather than being hid in the light of illumination for only a few to understand. |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 736349 United States 11/06/2011 10:09 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | The owl symbolism has NOTHING to do with Molech, which is a bull. That information has been circulating since "the loud mouths" incorrect interpretation of the Bohemian Grove owl and to be perfectly honest, I think that he did that on purpose, as it subverted the true meaning and what was happening in the ritual, so much so that people are STILL referring to the owl as Molech. Quoting: StopDrinkingTheKoolAid 4757419 The owl is a symbol of wisdom. Thus the term "wise old owl"...The owl is almost always depicted with or in conjunction with the Goddess figure and could best be explained like "the holy spirit" (not suggesting that the concepts are one-in-the-same) The owl is the hidden wisdom, the gnosis that only a few have come to the knowledge of. Perhaps a better way to explain would be to say that the owl represents the imparted knowledge and wisdom OF the Goddess and is written about extensively in Kabbalistic material. It is probably one of the more important figures to the Mystery School knowledge base. It is shown frequently on emblems or symbols relating to collegiate sororities and fraternities for the obvious implications. Molech is probably one of the older deity figures and has ALWAYS...I repeat ALWAYS been represented as a bull. It is mentioned in the bible, in relation to the "idol" that the Israelites were worshiping when Moses came down from the mountain and I believe mentioned again in the new testament. The key here is to DO THE RESEARCH. Then and only then can these esoteric symbols be brought to light, rather than being hid in the light of illumination for only a few to understand. you're an OWL yourself, aren't you? |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 4757419 United States 11/06/2011 10:24 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | you're an OWL yourself, aren't you? One day I hope to be, but probably not in the way that you are thinking. Wisdom, Eldership and Understanding...and more often than not, that takes a lifetime. Knowledge is my first love and through that comes the rest. It is apparent in the namesake I was given, that this has been my destiny before I came into this world. |
John Goz (OP) User ID: 4576018 United States 11/06/2011 10:38 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | you're an OWL yourself, aren't you? One day I hope to be, but probably not in the way that you are thinking. Wisdom, Eldership and Understanding...and more often than not, that takes a lifetime. Knowledge is my first love and through that comes the rest. It is apparent in the namesake I was given, that this has been my destiny before I came into this world. Do tell? We are all No bodies until someone recognizes us as Some bodies. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 736349 United States 11/06/2011 11:20 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | One day I hope to be, but probably not in the way that you are thinking. Wisdom, Eldership and Understanding...and more often than not, that takes a lifetime. Knowledge is my first love and through that comes the rest. It is apparent in the namesake I was given, that this has been my destiny before I came into this world. Do tell? sorry to break it to you john, but you are demonstrating the three warning signs of being a MORAN. |
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Doomamatrix User ID: 4771631 United States 11/06/2011 02:09 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Can someone then please tell me; what does it mean when one see owls all the time, every day? For the last month, every day, I see owls in the oddest places: in pictures, on jewelry, carvings. Yesterday, glanced over at the car next to me and what do they have on their bumper sticker? An owl. My gut is telling me that this is a good sign, that it is a message to convey that I need to have wisdom and better sight. But my mind says that this is a bad omen that evil is coming and that this is God's way of trying to warn me. What do you think? Obamacare: Never has so much been taken away from so many for so few. |