Why is the national Emergency Alert System test on Nov 9 NOT ending with an EAT (Emergency Action Termination)??

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delineates what is a "state of emergency"
listed under the US re f*ma

"A state of emergency empowers the exec to name co-opr off to deal w/the emer and OVERRIDE NORMAL ADMIN PROCESSES"

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THE EMER THAT EXSISTED FROM 1950 UNTIL SEPT 14, 1978 WAS HALTED WITH TH PASSAGE OF THE NAT'L EMER ACT WHICH PUT A TWO YEAR LIMIT ON ANY DECLARED EMER.
The nat'l emer econ power act allows for freezing of assets limiting trade and taking property during any declared emer.

Yes. That carrier wave left open can carry a signal unheard.

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Does the EAS require a "state of emergency" be enacted though?

Reposting what I said earlier, maybe it will help some people understand how at least I am understanding the EAS system to work.

Testing this to make sure I'm logged in now as I post, for some reason it didn't earlier.

i think all that is required is a "perceived" state of emer
the law was cintinued by the current pres on 9-14-2009 and therefore expired on that date.
being reintroduced and will it be submitted to the fed register to make it official i wonder?

Yes that sounds like they would need to declare a state of emergency, I know that when governors declare a state of emergency, special powers go along with it.

hoping that radio guy will come back...

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Sorry OP...I've been trying to get back here, yet apparently got caught in a ...well...wide provider issue. Not sure where we left off but current SOPs for an EBS test OR activation insists upon an EAT first...and then an EOM verified by FCC.

However, as I mentioned earlier...an EOM can be issued from whatever issuing agency requested the alert...(now FEMA and DOHS)...this will suffice to allow some lower end stations and broadcasters to continue with programming. This is a DATA issue...the system accepts the command to resume whatever. BUT, without the mechanical EAT signal, the system stays on 'alert' with one over riding 'open' carrier wave...over whatever on air programming is taking place. Just like a scrolling weather alert at the bottom of whatever television show you're watching in bad weather.

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What is your opinion of them deviating from SOP for this "test"?

Man, I honestly have no idea. I've never seen such murky goings on over an EBS test. Apparently they are adopting a tighter, all-inclusive heavy hand over the process now. This is strange to me considering local weather and other isolated local emergencies are handled at the state level almost immediately....obviously. Why they are handing over 'local' event control to the Feds is a real head scratcher. Makes no sense to me. So now when there is a chemical spill at the local factory effecting a small region, does that mean an EBS will have to be verified and approved before an alert? People are going to suffer the effects of the foot-dragging. Makes no sense.

now with no EAT, we will see the alert end, yet at least one channel will remain open...For what reason we can all speculate.

or, this is all just another exercise in Fed ineptness and profound idiocy.

So essentially they will be broadcasting "over" whatever regular programming resumes? Or able to broadcast at any time, correct?

Interesting thread, hmmmm...

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From what I can gather, it is ending with EOM because it is just a test (no real emergency)

If that's the case, why did they open it with an Emergency Action Notification rather than something else?

So, they can hold a channel open for whatever benign or nefarious purpose they want...or it could be just ineptness. Pretty much we will just have to wait and see...although I have a class at 1:00 (the time of the test CST), so I guess I will find out later in the day!

Don't know why, maybe because it's run by the government, who hardly get anything right. No EAT simply because there is no emergency action to terminate?

But the thing is that they are ACTIVATING it by running this test. They are not calling it something else. In one of my earlier analogies I had posted, I likened it to someone using the font tags on here. I will find it and post it again.

Reposting this from what I had said yesterday -

If that is the case, why are they not calling it UAS = un-emergency notification? lol, because there seems to be some sort of protocol to this. I likened it earlier to code. When you open a <tag> you always need to </close> it. Like say the bold tag. I can have all sorts of other options like italics and underline, and even colors!, but in order to change my font back to normal, i would always have to close ALL of the tags.

Maybe I am interpreting the whole issue wrong, but that is how I see it.

For all intent and purpose, yes...precisely. This open channel will be carried over any programming. Exactly like an 'open mic' yet only for data...not audio...unless that's what they deem necessary.
frankly it reminds me of some bizarro 'Manchurian Candidate' process...

FWIW, just left a meeting with station execs and our program manager on this very issue. Everyone is ultra-confused about a myriad of things DHS won't answer about this 'test'.

It was brought to our attention that the console (or board) EBS 'panic button' will not operate ever again after this 'test'....all control is being relegated to the Feds.

Also, it has been brought to our attention that this entire scenario has been in the works since the Feds dissolved all OTA broadcasting for television when they flipped the switch to all digital transmission. Those Fed set top boxes have an EBS transmitter hard wired. Yet, today...ominously...the word 'transmitter' was suspiciously changed to 'transceiver'...

Now, you tell me what to think of that. Personally, that tells me any digital carrier signal now is a two-way street of data...or information.

I'm not exactly the paranoid type, yet...umm...let's just say I've measured my head for my tin-foil hat. Oh, and I've stopped watching TV altogether...

VERY interesting!

So glad I live in the only place in the US that never switched to digital broadcast. Granted, most people have cable or satellite but at least I have neither and there will be nothing in our airwaves.