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Someone help with YU55 ... I am confused -- Closer than previously stated

 
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Someone help with YU55 ... I am confused -- Closer than previously stated
[link to ssd.jpl.nasa.gov]

does it not say there that this thing will be within
97000 miles of earth and not the 202000 they have been
saying???

Additional Information
Earth MOID = .00103961 AU
T_jup = 5.400

Last Edited by Boceph on 11/07/2011 12:43 PM
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Re: Someone help with YU55 ... I am confused -- Closer than previously stated
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Re: Someone help with YU55 ... I am confused -- Closer than previously stated
[link to ssd.jpl.nasa.gov]

does it not say there that this thing will be within
97000 miles of earth and not the 202000 they have been
saying???

Additional Information
Earth MOID = .00103961 AU
T_jup = 5.400
 Quoting: Boceph


its a rock passing closer to the moon than earth and no big deal. that is the truth.
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Re: Someone help with YU55 ... I am confused -- Closer than previously stated
ok so is it 202000 miles or 96683.73 miles indicated
on JPL website??
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Re: Someone help with YU55 ... I am confused -- Closer than previously stated
Their a little worried it might get pulled in buy earths gravity pull or, possibly hit the moon.
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Re: Someone help with YU55 ... I am confused -- Closer than previously stated
corrected link

[link to ssd.jpl.nasa.gov]
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bump for an answer
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Re: Someone help with YU55 ... I am confused -- Closer than previously stated
seriously 140 views and NO ONE sees the difference
in the projection from what they have been telling us...

It's 100000 miles or twice as close !!
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Re: Someone help with YU55 ... I am confused -- Closer than previously stated
It's gonna hit.
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Re: Someone help with YU55 ... I am confused -- Closer than previously stated
it says the closest distance will be 0.0022 AU

0.0022 Astronomical Units = 329,115.6 kilometers
(204.502 miles)
The average distance from Earth to the Moon is 384,403 kilometers
(238,857 miles)

where are you getting the closer distance from?
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Re: Someone help with YU55 ... I am confused -- Closer than previously stated
that's what i needed... help deciphering...



Additional Information
Earth MOID = .00103961 AU
T_jup = 5.400

bottom right of data

Last Edited by Boceph on 11/07/2011 01:02 PM
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Re: Someone help with YU55 ... I am confused -- Closer than previously stated
Op is looking at the Earth MOID (Minimum Orbit Intersection Distance) but does not understand what it means.


It is the closest it comes to Earths orbit path (even if the Earth is not there). So it does not even come close to crossing the path earth takes around the sun.
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Re: Someone help with YU55 ... I am confused -- Closer than previously stated
Op is looking at the Earth MOID (Minimum Orbit Intersection Distance) but does not understand what it means.


It is the closest it comes to Earths orbit path (even if the Earth is not there). So it does not even come close to crossing the path earth takes around the sun.
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Thank you !!!! Exactly what I was looking for....

Scared the shit out of me....

Not really, but a little.grinning
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Thank you !!!! Exactly what I was looking for....

Scared the shit out of me....

Not really, but a little.grinning
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Haha, you can official relax!
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Re: Someone help with YU55 ... I am confused -- Closer than previously stated
it says the closest distance will be 0.0022 AU

0.0022 Astronomical Units = 329,115.6 kilometers
(204.502 miles)
The average distance from Earth to the Moon is 384,403 kilometers
(238,857 miles)

where are you getting the closer distance from?
 Quoting: NiNzrez


hmmm but when i click to view the Close-Approach Data, i get this

Date/Time (TDB) Time Uncertainty
(days_HH:MM) Body Nominal Distance (AU) Minimum Distance (AU) Maximum Distance (AU)
2011-Nov-08 23:28 < 00:01 Earth 0.00217200758286823 0.00217188001449126 0.00217213515468347
2011-Nov-09 07:14 < 00:01 Moon 0.00160119624839852 0.00160107696971722 0.00160131553174464

(hope direct link works for the data)
[link to ssd.jpl.nasa.gov]
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Re: Someone help with YU55 ... I am confused -- Closer than previously stated
The minimum orbital intersection distance (MOID) is the minimum distance between the osculating orbits of two objects. It indicates the closest possible approach of the two objects except where excluded by protective resonance.

Because of long-range planetary gravitational perturbations and, particularly, close planetary approaches, asteroid orbits change with time.

[link to www2.lowell.edu]

Last Edited by Rain-Man on 11/07/2011 01:08 PM
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Re: Someone help with YU55 ... I am confused -- Closer than previously stated
[link to ssd.jpl.nasa.gov]

does it not say there that this thing will be within
97000 miles of earth and not the 202000 they have been
saying???

Additional Information
Earth MOID = .00103961 AU
T_jup = 5.400
 Quoting: Boceph


Glad you made a separate thread on this, no one had any idea on the other. Maybe this will grab some astronomer's attention.
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Re: Someone help with YU55 ... I am confused -- Closer than previously stated
The minimum orbital intersection distance (MOID) is the minimum distance between the osculating orbits of two objects. It indicates the closest possible approach of the two objects except where excluded by protective resonance.

Because of long-range planetary gravitational perturbations and, particularly, close planetary approaches, asteroid orbits change with time.

[link to www2.lowell.edu]
 Quoting: Rain-Man



That a fancy way of saying they don't know jack shit ??

wuhfaint
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Re: Someone help with YU55 ... I am confused -- Closer than previously stated
it says the closest distance will be 0.0022 AU

0.0022 Astronomical Units = 329,115.6 kilometers
(204.502 miles)
The average distance from Earth to the Moon is 384,403 kilometers
(238,857 miles)

where are you getting the closer distance from?
 Quoting: NiNzrez


hmmm but when i click to view the Close-Approach Data, i get this

Date/Time (TDB) Time Uncertainty
(days_HH:MM) Body Nominal Distance (AU) Minimum Distance (AU) Maximum Distance (AU)
2011-Nov-08 23:28 < 00:01 Earth 0.00217200758286823 0.00217188001449126 0.00217213515468347
2011-Nov-09 07:14 < 00:01 Moon 0.00160119624839852 0.00160107696971722 0.00160131553174464

(hope direct link works for the data)
[link to ssd.jpl.nasa.gov]
 Quoting: NiNzrez


Moon
0.00160119624839852 Astronomical Units = 239 535.756 kilometers
(148,840.618 miles)

Earth
0.00217200758286823 Astronomical Units = 324 927.99 kilometers
(201,900.892 miles)
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Re: Someone help with YU55 ... I am confused -- Closer than previously stated
[link to ssd.jpl.nasa.gov]

does it not say there that this thing will be within
97000 miles of earth and not the 202000 they have been
saying???

Additional Information
Earth MOID = .00103961 AU
T_jup = 5.400
 Quoting: Boceph


[link to ssd.jpl.nasa.gov]

it was closer in April 19th 2010 .
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Re: Someone help with YU55 ... I am confused -- Closer than previously stated
seriously 140 views and NO ONE sees the difference
in the projection from what they have been telling us...

It's 100000 miles or twice as close !!
 Quoting: Boceph

Doesn't matter, OP. Close is not a hit. Close only counts in horseshoes and hand grenade tossing. Any other occasions are meaningless.
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Re: Someone help with YU55 ... I am confused -- Closer than previously stated
ok... so from what I've gathered so far is that I was
wrong and the closest distance has not changed????

I promise it won't be the last time I will be called a dumb ass!!happydance

Last Edited by Boceph on 11/07/2011 01:22 PM
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Re: Someone help with YU55 ... I am confused -- Closer than previously stated
In my book you're no dumb ass dude. In fact, nobody's factored in the the moon's pull on this 1300 ft asteroid, and it's such a shame. Moreover, they provided a simulation that's way too fast for peeeps to comprehend the finer details, but WTF, i'm just another doom junkie on here like you????
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Re: Someone help with YU55 ... I am confused -- Closer than previously stated
In my book you're no dumb ass dude. In fact, nobody's factored in the the moon's pull on this 1300 ft asteroid, and it's such a shame. Moreover, they provided a simulation that's way too fast for peeeps to comprehend the finer details, but WTF, i'm just another doom junkie on here like you????
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Thanks...wowey

Just watching.... and waiting ...
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Re: Someone help with YU55 ... I am confused -- Closer than previously stated
So its NOT getting closer than expected right?
There is a dumbass hiding on your keyboard. They are between "Y" and "I"
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Re: Someone help with YU55 ... I am confused -- Closer than previously stated
Their a little worried it might get pulled in buy earths gravity pull or, possibly hit the moon.
 Quoting: JimBomB


If it does enter our atmosphere wouldn't gravity pull it to the ground/ocean ?
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Re: Someone help with YU55 ... I am confused -- Closer than previously stated
[link to ssd.jpl.nasa.gov]

does it not say there that this thing will be within
97000 miles of earth and not the 202000 they have been
saying???

Additional Information
Earth MOID = .00103961 AU
T_jup = 5.400
 Quoting: Boceph


Yo missed a digit FUBU, it should read 198,000miles.
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Re: Someone help with YU55 ... I am confused -- Closer than previously stated
Their a little worried it might get pulled in buy earths gravity pull or, possibly hit the moon.
 Quoting: JimBomB


If it does enter our atmosphere wouldn't gravity pull it to the ground/ocean ?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 932329


Their a little worried it might get pulled in buy earths gravity pull or, possibly hit the moon.
 Quoting: JimBomB


If it does enter our atmosphere wouldn't gravity pull it to the ground/ocean ?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 932329


Yeah, it wouldn't need to enter our atmosphere for gravity to tug it in either.
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Re: Someone help with YU55 ... I am confused -- Closer than previously stated
In my book you're no dumb ass dude. In fact, nobody's factored in the the moon's pull on this 1300 ft asteroid, and it's such a shame. Moreover, they provided a simulation that's way too fast for peeeps to comprehend the finer details, but WTF, i'm just another doom junkie on here like you????
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1485133


Quite wrong. The [link to ssd.jpl.nasa.gov] orbit applet doesn't, but the higher accuracy calculations do.





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