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closing eyes (OP)

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if you can press charges for something then go to the police and press charges, go in person don't even call... if not you would just have to be creative and smart about what you do for your daughter.
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I filed charges in August, no
one will call me back since!
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Pardon me I call Jake Vivian 7075658290 who is in charge of this case no response also call 707 546-1234 and 707 5658267 no return calls and no charges have been filed with the DA.
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Just started the thread so maybe it's been answered. If you want it pursued, contact your local Child Protective Services or your Dr. Drs. have to report it.
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I'm looking at [link to www.sonomasheriff.org] and finding it very difficult to believe that he moved and is around children now.

I'm sorry for your situation. I went through something similar with my own daughter.
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I will not give up on my daughter( she is mortified about this, it isn't made up) This won't end until at least she is heard. Court can decide, but we aren't given the chance of even talking to childrens services. If the DA is scared he will loose, he should grow some balls and at least listen to her. What is wrong with these people?
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Just started the thread so maybe it's been answered. If you want it pursued, contact your local Child Protective Services or your Dr. Drs. have to report it.
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My Dr. reported it thats why the police came and talked to me, not her, saying they would interview her later. CPS doesn't get involved because it wasn't in the home.
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My daughters teacher was accused of molesting 4 girls and slaming the head of one boy on his desk. They went to trial and the girls didn't want to testify so he got those charges dropped , but the boy did testify and the teacher got 1 count of endangering a child. Trial closed, he's still walking around. This was a year ago but the abuse happened when they where much younger so it wasn't high priorty case. My daughter in August just told me that he had rubbed her more than 5 times where one shouldn't. So it would be a new trial. I have called everyday latley and they just transfer me to voicemails and noone calls me back. They advisied me not to get consoling or talk to her about it anymore because it could mess up the case. So I haven't. I call daily, no oone will take my calls(always voice mail) and charges have not been filed. She told Kaiser too. What do I do to get the ball rolling? Newspapers or what kind of lawyer? They just put me through to answering machine after answering machine and no one calls me back. How do I get justice for my child?
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Who told you to not get counseling and who is it that won't return your calls?
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Just started the thread so maybe it's been answered. If you want it pursued, contact your local Child Protective Services or your Dr. Drs. have to report it.
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My Dr. reported it thats why the police came and talked to me, not her, saying they would interview her later. CPS doesn't get involved because it wasn't in the home.
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Don't know what state you're in, but I'd talk to cps myself. There was an incident like this in Ohio with a bus driver and cps went to the school to talk to the children and the driver. He lost his job and had to get counseling and can't be alone unsupervised with any child. Not even his own grandchildren. There IS something that can be done about it.
Sounds to me like you're being screwed around.

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Whats his name? I'll try to do some research.
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perhaps you could sue them then in civil court, you need to talk to an attorney or something as i am not one, that might be your best bet because they will know the laws. i don't know why the police would not call you back, have gone there personally to follow up on it or whatever? there is a time limit on stuff like this and if it has been to long then there might not be a legal avenue for you to follow....just trying to offer ideas.
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My daughters teacher was accused of molesting 4 girls and slaming the head of one boy on his desk. They went to trial and the girls didn't want to testify so he got those charges dropped , but the boy did testify and the teacher got 1 count of endangering a child. Trial closed, he's still walking around. This was a year ago but the abuse happened when they where much younger so it wasn't high priorty case. My daughter in August just told me that he had rubbed her more than 5 times where one shouldn't. So it would be a new trial. I have called everyday latley and they just transfer me to voicemails and noone calls me back. They advisied me not to get consoling or talk to her about it anymore because it could mess up the case. So I haven't. I call daily, no oone will take my calls(always voice mail) and charges have not been filed. She told Kaiser too. What do I do to get the ball rolling? Newspapers or what kind of lawyer? They just put me through to answering machine after answering machine and no one calls me back. How do I get justice for my child?
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Who told you to not get counseling and who is it that won't return your calls?
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The officer who took the report said it would be better for the case if she didn't get counseling because the counsler could put words in her mouth, suggest words to her. The police won't return my calls they just transfer me to officers voicemail who never call me back.
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perhaps you could sue them then in civil court, you need to talk to an attorney or something as i am not one, that might be your best bet because they will know the laws. i don't know why the police would not call you back, have gone there personally to follow up on it or whatever? there is a time limit on stuff like this and if it has been to long then there might not be a legal avenue for you to follow....just trying to offer ideas.
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The police stations are locked and tell me over intercom to contact such and such number( who never answer). What lawyer(I was looking in the phone book tonight, but not sure who handles those cases) There is no time limit on molestation, use catholic church as example. Thank you for your ideas and help!
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My daughters teacher was accused of molesting 4 girls and slaming the head of one boy on his desk. They went to trial and the girls didn't want to testify so he got those charges dropped , but the boy did testify and the teacher got 1 count of endangering a child. Trial closed, he's still walking around. This was a year ago but the abuse happened when they where much younger so it wasn't high priorty case. My daughter in August just told me that he had rubbed her more than 5 times where one shouldn't. So it would be a new trial. I have called everyday latley and they just transfer me to voicemails and noone calls me back. They advisied me not to get consoling or talk to her about it anymore because it could mess up the case. So I haven't. I call daily, no oone will take my calls(always voice mail) and charges have not been filed. She told Kaiser too. What do I do to get the ball rolling? Newspapers or what kind of lawyer? They just put me through to answering machine after answering machine and no one calls me back. How do I get justice for my child?
 Quoting: closing eyes


Who told you to not get counseling and who is it that won't return your calls?
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The officer who took the report said it would be better for the case if she didn't get counseling because the counsler could put words in her mouth, suggest words to her. The police won't return my calls they just transfer me to officers voicemail who never call me back.
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Have you talked to your prosecuting attorney?
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Whats his name? I'll try to do some research.
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, there is a link above that gives his first charges, but more came forward, but no one would testify, except the boy and he got convicted of child endagerment.

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If you filed charges, then those charges must be followed up on in a court of law. Are you sure you just haven't given it enough time yet to go to a court date?

Squeaky wheel gets the grease. Call anyone, everyone, go to the court houses, tell them your story, they'll offer places and people who can help. Be relentless, this is your kid. Do everything in your arsenal.
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My daughters teacher was accused of molesting 4 girls and slaming the head of one boy on his desk. They went to trial and the girls didn't want to testify so he got those charges dropped , but the boy did testify and the teacher got 1 count of endangering a child. Trial closed, he's still walking around. This was a year ago but the abuse happened when they where much younger so it wasn't high priorty case. My daughter in August just told me that he had rubbed her more than 5 times where one shouldn't. So it would be a new trial. I have called everyday latley and they just transfer me to voicemails and noone calls me back. They advisied me not to get consoling or talk to her about it anymore because it could mess up the case. So I haven't. I call daily, no oone will take my calls(always voice mail) and charges have not been filed. She told Kaiser too. What do I do to get the ball rolling? Newspapers or what kind of lawyer? They just put me through to answering machine after answering machine and no one calls me back. How do I get justice for my child?
 Quoting: closing eyes


Who told you to not get counseling and who is it that won't return your calls?
 Quoting: Nine's


The officer who took the report said it would be better for the case if she didn't get counseling because the counsler could put words in her mouth, suggest words to her. The police won't return my calls they just transfer me to officers voicemail who never call me back.
 Quoting: closing eyes


Have you talked to your prosecuting attorney?
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Do I have one?
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If you filed charges, then those charges must be followed up on in a court of law. Are you sure you just haven't given it enough time yet to go to a court date?

Squeaky wheel gets the grease. Call anyone, everyone, go to the court houses, tell them your story, they'll offer places and people who can help. Be relentless, this is your kid. Do everything in your arsenal.
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I filed in August, am I just being impaitent? I don't know how long this takes?
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If you filed charges, then those charges must be followed up on in a court of law. Are you sure you just haven't given it enough time yet to go to a court date?

Squeaky wheel gets the grease. Call anyone, everyone, go to the court houses, tell them your story, they'll offer places and people who can help. Be relentless, this is your kid. Do everything in your arsenal.
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Im ready to go to the papers and tv, or would that be bad?
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find his address and post it. The rest will take care of itself
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It wouldn't surprise me if it took 2 or 3 months, but you can go down to the court house and find out what is the status. Like I said before, just make yourself a pain in the ass for everyone.

Like the guy in Shawshank redemption, who wanted books for the library, they finally gave it to him just so they would stop receiving twice daily letters from him.

Hopefully you have the time, as that is gonna be the biggest cost. You will have to go to records offices, court houses, call court clerks, e-mail court clerks, e-mail the judge,go to the police, go to the FBI, e-mail and call and go to see EVERYONE! Make yourself such a pain in the ass that they just will do anything to get rid of you.
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Listen. Calm down.

You keep referring to 'they'. You are leaving a message for 'them'. Is this CPS, the police, or the school?

You need to contact CPS immediately. They should initiate an investigation, and depending upon the age of your daughter they would do so in a confidential 'safe house' where your daughter is videotaped while talking to a social worker- so she doesn't have to be questioned by police.

Have you spoken with CPS?
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If you filed charges, then those charges must be followed up on in a court of law. Are you sure you just haven't given it enough time yet to go to a court date?

Squeaky wheel gets the grease. Call anyone, everyone, go to the court houses, tell them your story, they'll offer places and people who can help. Be relentless, this is your kid. Do everything in your arsenal.
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Im ready to go to the papers and tv, or would that be bad?
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Everything! Just be ready, the media are like vultures, they can take what you say and turn it against you.
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If you filed charges, then those charges must be followed up on in a court of law. Are you sure you just haven't given it enough time yet to go to a court date?

Squeaky wheel gets the grease. Call anyone, everyone, go to the court houses, tell them your story, they'll offer places and people who can help. Be relentless, this is your kid. Do everything in your arsenal.
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Im ready to go to the papers and tv, or would that be bad?
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You should, it would be good. No harm can come from that right? This guy is an asshole, and I hope I run into him! I am really sorry about what you and your child are going through!
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Who told you to not get counseling and who is it that won't return your calls?
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The officer who took the report said it would be better for the case if she didn't get counseling because the counsler could put words in her mouth, suggest words to her. The police won't return my calls they just transfer me to officers voicemail who never call me back.
 Quoting: closing eyes


Have you talked to your prosecuting attorney?
 Quoting: Nine's


Do I have one?
 Quoting: closing eyes


You mentioned Sonoma and your state in your profile is Cali. If you're in Sonoma County, you have a district attorney. Here's the info.
[link to da.sonoma-county.org]

Tell them you'd like an appt. to discuss an issue. When you go in, tell them the whole story. Write down the important things before you go. Dates, who you talked to, what they said, who failed to respond, etc.

Be nice at first. If they say they'll get back to you, ask them when. Tell them if you don't hear from them by that date, you're going higher and will also contact the press. That's a last resort though. Try contacting them and being nice first.

I'd also contact childrens services, make an appt. and go in and talk to them.

[link to da.sonoma-county.org]

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The district attorney would be the prosecuting attorney.

If you have a victim/ witness coordinator at your courthouse, they would be able to answer your questions (and it is their job to do so).
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If you filed charges, then those charges must be followed up on in a court of law. Are you sure you just haven't given it enough time yet to go to a court date?

Squeaky wheel gets the grease. Call anyone, everyone, go to the court houses, tell them your story, they'll offer places and people who can help. Be relentless, this is your kid. Do everything in your arsenal.
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Im ready to go to the papers and tv, or would that be bad?
 Quoting: closing eyes


It would be bad for your child. I'd avoid it if possible, but it's a great ace up your sleeve for others you deal with, to tell them you will go if they don't get something done.

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Go to the media...email/call your state reps...stay proactive & don't give up. Keep speaking out & up, let the media & politicians know you are being ignored.

My prayers are with you :)
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I hope you wake up to a whole lot of new info that is going to help you and your family OP.

Good luck and love in your life.
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If you filed charges, then those charges must be followed up on in a court of law. Are you sure you just haven't given it enough time yet to go to a court date?

Squeaky wheel gets the grease. Call anyone, everyone, go to the court houses, tell them your story, they'll offer places and people who can help. Be relentless, this is your kid. Do everything in your arsenal.
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Im ready to go to the papers and tv, or would that be bad?
 Quoting: closing eyes


Everything! Just be ready, the media are like vultures, they can take what you say and turn it against you.
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I dont care about me, I care that my daughter grows up knowing I love her and will fight for her like a soldier if need be. That is my job, I love her!
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Re: I don't know what to do please help with suggestions
perhaps you could sue them then in civil court, you need to talk to an attorney or something as i am not one, that might be your best bet because they will know the laws. i don't know why the police would not call you back, have gone there personally to follow up on it or whatever? there is a time limit on stuff like this and if it has been to long then there might not be a legal avenue for you to follow....just trying to offer ideas.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 4877983


The police stations are locked and tell me over intercom to contact such and such number( who never answer). What lawyer(I was looking in the phone book tonight, but not sure who handles those cases) There is no time limit on molestation, use catholic church as example. Thank you for your ideas and help!
 Quoting: closing eyes


i say call any of them, they will know more than you or me about it and i'm sure most if not all will help point you to where you need to be, or at least get you closer...if the guy works in a school currently or with kids call them too and tell them, they will probably investigate it and that could force attention to your case. also someone mentioned a prosecuting attorney which you might need to look into finding who they are for your area. i wish you good luck

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