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>>>PATERNITY SUITS, Justin Beiber's or any others, they are all BS. And this is why<<<

 
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>>>PATERNITY SUITS, Justin Beiber's or any others, they are all BS. And this is why<<<
You know what?

These days with birth control etc, the CHOICE to pro-create SHOULD be a combined and informed consual agreement between both parties in an emotional/ sexual relationship...even if it is a one night stand.

So...when I see that any woman who becomes pregnant and then goes down the road of some sort of paternity gravy train, I ask myself all sorts of questions about ..

ENTRAPMENT...

THEFT OF SEMEN without consent..

INAPROPRIATE missuse of another persons property (semen) without consent and so forth.

I believe that women should know their own bodies, its functions and cycles and that this is their responsibility.

I think that these days, men have a right first and foremost to be consulted FIRST when a woman consents and engages herself in sexual relations.

She has a duty of care to explain any limitations that might be active for that moment in time.

And should she NOT gain FULL consent, and when she has ALL the choices that are available to her these days, then I honestly believe that she is the party guilty of disshonesty and therefore the proof of burden should clearly lay at her feet to prove that the pregnancy was an agreed and consentual goal of the bonding.

Otherwise, it was an act of differing motivations, one for a short and (harmless??) pleasure of the flesh.

The other a conived and planned execution of entrapment for her long term financial gain.

A truely bloodthirtsy motive.

And, I can see now just how many people will want to attack me for these views, so bring it on but make sure that your arguments are well founded and logical or otherwise, STFU your comments and attacks will just be your waste of time.

So hate me, but you know that I'm right.

Its called being responsible for your actions.

END OF STORY.

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arkay (OP)

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Re: >>>PATERNITY SUITS, Justin Beiber's or any others, they are all BS. And this is why<<<
I'd really like to hear some legal opinion on this.

True or false, could a good defense be made on these grounds?

And why or why not?
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Re: >>>PATERNITY SUITS, Justin Beiber's or any others, they are all BS. And this is why<<<
i don't believe in birth control.

How exactly would it be "semen theft" if he consented?
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You know what.


 Quoting: arkay


sheeplebah
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i don't believe in birth control.

How exactly would it be "semen theft" if he consented?
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my point exactly..

youve told him you dont believe in birth control, and presumably that you are currently fertile.

Therefore he is able to make an informed decision.

I.E. that he might be going to be a father...he had that knowledge and a choice you gave him.
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Re: >>>PATERNITY SUITS, Justin Beiber's or any others, they are all BS. And this is why<<<
You know what.


 Quoting: arkay


sheeplebah
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there you go..fixed the grammar.

talk about anal !!!
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Re: >>>PATERNITY SUITS, Justin Beiber's or any others, they are all BS. And this is why<<<
the women who claims that her new born child is Justin Beiber son, said that she had sex with Justin Beiber after a concert in October of 2010 in the concerts bathroom.....when Justin Beiber body guards ask her to meet him there after the concert!.....



now with this in mind.....




knowing it is the month of October that the concert took place... is it possible ????... that some one in the audience of a Justin Beiber concert... was dressed up as a Justin Beiber ??? as a look-a-like???? and have his friends dressed up as body guards??? too also add more appeal to the look-a-like costume????? and some how.... the Justin Beiber look-a-like ask his friends dressed up as body guards to find a women and lie to them asking them ??? who will be willing to have sex with Justin Beiber but not tell them its not the real Justin Beiber????.... ??? right after the concert??? in the public audience bathroom stall??? and this women .. 19 at the time ... believe it was real Justin Beiber?


and then ... they leave and the women thinks oh wow that was justin beiber... yay!...


and never was seen again ...???
arkay (OP)

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Re: >>>PATERNITY SUITS, Justin Beiber's or any others, they are all BS. And this is why<<<
the women who claims that her new born child is Justin Beiber son, said that she had sex with Justin Beiber after a concert in October of 2010 in the concerts bathroom.....when Justin Beiber body guards ask her to meet him there after the concert!.....



now with this in mind.....




knowing it is the month of October that the concert took place... is it possible ????... that some one in the audience of a Justin Beiber concert... was dressed up as a Justin Beiber ??? as a look-a-like???? and have his friends dressed up as body guards??? too also add more appeal to the look-a-like costume????? and some how.... the Justin Beiber look-a-like ask his friends dressed up as body guards to find a women and lie to them asking them ??? who will be willing to have sex with Justin Beiber but not tell them its not the real Justin Beiber????.... ??? right after the concert??? in the public audience bathroom stall??? and this women .. 19 at the time ... believe it was real Justin Beiber?


and then ... they leave and the women thinks oh wow that was justin beiber... yay!...


and never was seen again ...???
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 4900811


its past your bedtime...GO TO BED

bloody hell...kids

ever hear of a DNA test, without THAT sort of weird and convoluted story?

How old are you anyway, I'd say about 10-12.

They all get a place here dont they??

Sorry, I dont mean to sound too critical, but please re-read your contribution, its nothing more than a rediculous and complicated fantasy.
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Re: >>>PATERNITY SUITS, Justin Beiber's or any others, they are all BS. And this is why<<<
the women who claims that her new born child is Justin Beiber son, said that she had sex with Justin Beiber after a concert in October of 2010 in the concerts bathroom.....when Justin Beiber body guards ask her to meet him there after the concert!.....



now with this in mind.....




knowing it is the month of October that the concert took place... is it possible ????... that some one in the audience of a Justin Beiber concert... was dressed up as a Justin Beiber ??? as a look-a-like???? and have his friends dressed up as body guards??? too also add more appeal to the look-a-like costume????? and some how.... the Justin Beiber look-a-like ask his friends dressed up as body guards to find a women and lie to them asking them ??? who will be willing to have sex with Justin Beiber but not tell them its not the real Justin Beiber????.... ??? right after the concert??? in the public audience bathroom stall??? and this women .. 19 at the time ... believe it was real Justin Beiber?


and then ... they leave and the women thinks oh wow that was justin beiber... yay!...


and never was seen again ...???
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 4900811


its past your bedtime...GO TO BED

bloody hell...kids

ever hear of a DNA test, without THAT sort of weird and convoluted story?

How old are you anyway, I'd say about 10-12.

They all get a place here dont they??

Sorry, I dont mean to sound too critical, but please re-read your contribution, its nothing more than a rediculous and complicated fantasy.
 Quoting: arkay


hey i seen Michele Jackson look a likes .. going to a Michael Jackson concert ... trying to fool the audience that he is the real MJ.... so this may been possible...


and that women was just fooled....to think she was with the real justin bieber
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Justin Beiber looks like someones mum.
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Re: >>>PATERNITY SUITS, Justin Beiber's or any others, they are all BS. And this is why<<<
the women who claims that her new born child is Justin Beiber son, said that she had sex with Justin Beiber after a concert in October of 2010 in the concerts bathroom.....when Justin Beiber body guards ask her to meet him there after the concert!.....



now with this in mind.....




knowing it is the month of October that the concert took place... is it possible ????... that some one in the audience of a Justin Beiber concert... was dressed up as a Justin Beiber ??? as a look-a-like???? and have his friends dressed up as body guards??? too also add more appeal to the look-a-like costume????? and some how.... the Justin Beiber look-a-like ask his friends dressed up as body guards to find a women and lie to them asking them ??? who will be willing to have sex with Justin Beiber but not tell them its not the real Justin Beiber????.... ??? right after the concert??? in the public audience bathroom stall??? and this women .. 19 at the time ... believe it was real Justin Beiber?


and then ... they leave and the women thinks oh wow that was justin beiber... yay!...


and never was seen again ...???
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 4900811


its past your bedtime...GO TO BED

bloody hell...kids

ever hear of a DNA test, without THAT sort of weird and convoluted story?

How old are you anyway, I'd say about 10-12.

They all get a place here dont they??

Sorry, I dont mean to sound too critical, but please re-read your contribution, its nothing more than a rediculous and complicated fantasy.
 Quoting: arkay


hey i seen Michele Jackson look a likes .. going to a Michael Jackson concert ... trying to fool the audience that he is the real MJ.... so this may been possible...


and that women was just fooled....to think she was with the real justin bieber
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 4900811


GOOD NIGHT!
arkay (OP)

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so...does this arguement get a run in the courts?

I'll bet there are hundreds/thousands of men hoping so, and just as many women hoping not!!

Who has something to add here?

I was looking for some legal comment, now I realize that if the arguement is valad, then its the legal prosession that would have the most to lose!!

no cases to persue..= no income from cases to run = no comments either.
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oh, come on, GLP just cant be this quiet on a subject this big...so lets hear everybodies thoughts..
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Justin Bieber can't become a father because Scooter had him neutered.
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OP you argument is full of so many holes I don't even know where to begin!

Infact I wont even bother, I think Eminem puts it succinctly enough:

"Man i should've seen it coming, why'd i stick my penis up it"
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He should bank and sell semen, then the product can be trade marked, and if she useses it then she need to ..... bla bla
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Re: >>>PATERNITY SUITS, Justin Beiber's or any others, they are all BS. And this is why<<<
So Guys, there you go.

Whether your the father or not, you dont have to live with a paternity suit any more.

The simple lack of comment from the girls here is testament that they dont have any good answer to the scam that they have been running against the males for years.

Oh it was your fault and now YOU have to pay for the rest of your life while I sit on it till the next victim comes along and then I can sue him too...

what a joke, and the answer was always there.

All that was needed was to replace the guilt with some logic and common sense.

I'll keep tuned in to see how many guys save their backsides with this logic.

Recon it'll be huge.
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OP you argument is full of so many holes I don't even know where to begin!

Infact I wont even bother, I think Eminem puts it succinctly enough:

"Man i should've seen it coming, why'd i stick my penis up it"
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DONT

DONT

Dont bait this thread with THAT sort of crap, if you have a point or several, then MAKE them.

Otherwise your post is a complete waste of space, just emotional junk.
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Re: >>>PATERNITY SUITS, Justin Beiber's or any others, they are all BS. And this is why<<<
You're an idiot. When you poke your cock into a pussy, you give consent.

When you let* some guy poke his cock in your pussy, you give consent.


Consent is given when YOU do not put on a condom. If you trust someone else to be on birth control, then you're a fucking idiot and you deserve it.

No, I am not pro abortion-as-birth-control. When a woman has sex, she has already made her choice*.




*Obviously, this does not apply to rape.
No more requests in the "Strangest things" thread please. :hf:

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Re: >>>PATERNITY SUITS, Justin Beiber's or any others, they are all BS. And this is why<<<
If you don't want to take a chance of getting a woman pregnant don't have sex with her. Sex was not meant to be a sport or passing fling. That only applies to monkeys and other animals who have heat cycles and lifestyles different from humans. Life was not meant to be about selfish pleasures, which is what you want but you are doing your best to justify it.

People need to have a family unit, with a mother, father, siblings, aunts, uncles, cousins, grandparents and so on. That makes for healthy and mentally balanced people.

One night flings can easily result in STDs or unwanted pregnancy which brings misery to many. These consequences which end up tearing societies apart in the end are why all the religions teach self-discipline when it comes to sex.
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He should bank and sell semen, then the product can be trade marked, and if she useses it then she need to ..... bla bla
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 4919817


actually all (males) have their own induvidual semen, they dont need to copyright it or anything else, yours is yours alone and so is everybody elses, all are uniqie.

Same goes for a womans eggs, but it is she that needs your sperm to fertalize her egg and because of that she must inform you that this is her intention.

This is exactly why a woman cannot legally use your semen, which you alone own.

Without your express consent it cannot be used.
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Re: >>>PATERNITY SUITS, Justin Beiber's or any others, they are all BS. And this is why<<<
You know what?

These days with birth control etc, the CHOICE to pro-create SHOULD be a combined and informed consual agreement between both parties in an emotional/ sexual relationship...even if it is a one night stand.

So...when I see that any woman who becomes pregnant and then goes down the road of some sort of paternity gravy train, I ask myself all sorts of questions about ..

ENTRAPMENT...

THEFT OF SEMEN without consent..

INAPROPRIATE missuse of another persons property (semen) without consent and so forth.

I believe that women should know their own bodies, its functions and cycles and that this is their responsibility.

I think that these days, men have a right first and foremost to be consulted FIRST when a woman consents and engages herself in sexual relations.

She has a duty of care to explain any limitations that might be active for that moment in time.

And should she NOT gain FULL consent, and when she has ALL the choices that are available to her these days, then I honestly believe that she is the party guilty of disshonesty and therefore the proof of burden should clearly lay at her feet to prove that the pregnancy was an agreed and consentual goal of the bonding.

Otherwise, it was an act of differing motivations, one for a short and (harmless??) pleasure of the flesh.

The other a conived and planned execution of entrapment for her long term financial gain.

A truely bloodthirtsy motive.

And, I can see now just how many people will want to attack me for these views, so bring it on but make sure that your arguments are well founded and logical or otherwise, STFU your comments and attacks will just be your waste of time.

So hate me, but you know that I'm right.

Its called being responsible for your actions.

END OF STORY.
 Quoting: arkay


I agree with the concept that conception should be a mutually agreed upon event. That being said, if the guy does not want to risk birth control failure or being lied to, he needs to take full birth control responsibility himself. He needs to realize that there can be a failure of birth control and that if he does not want to risk paternity, don't have sexual intercourse or engage in activities that result in any of his reproductive fluids being, shall we say, out and about.

And, should you wonder, I'm a mother, soon to become a grandmother. I have two kids, one male, one female. Been married for a very long time. I told my kids that they need to be responsible for their own actions, not to expect others to do it for them.
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OP you argument is full of so many holes I don't even know where to begin!

Infact I wont even bother, I think Eminem puts it succinctly enough:

"Man i should've seen it coming, why'd i stick my penis up it"
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DONT

DONT

Dont bait this thread with THAT sort of crap, if you have a point or several, then MAKE them.

Otherwise your post is a complete waste of space, just emotional junk.
 Quoting: arkay


Bitch, please...

Only emotional responce here is your's.
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If you don't want to take a chance of getting a woman pregnant don't have sex with her. Sex was not meant to be a sport or passing fling. That only applies to monkeys and other animals who have heat cycles and lifestyles different from humans. Life was not meant to be about selfish pleasures, which is what you want but you are doing your best to justify it.

People need to have a family unit, with a mother, father, siblings, aunts, uncles, cousins, grandparents and so on. That makes for healthy and mentally balanced people.

One night flings can easily result in STDs or unwanted pregnancy which brings misery to many. These consequences which end up tearing societies apart in the end are why all the religions teach self-discipline when it comes to sex.
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you sound somewhat idilec in your outlook.

I have to say that sex, not love, can be a terrific and rewarding physical experience.

I do draw the destinction between the two and many many people do get the two confused.

None the less a physical pleasurable act should not have lifelong consequences attached, especially when I DO contend that a woman should know her own body and therefore it is her responsibility to at least offer that relevant information so that informed consent can take place.

These women that "accidentally" get pregnant to celibrities and then put forward huge paternal law suites are nothing more than cool and calculating whores in my opinion.

They have little going for themselves and if they were male they probably couldnt even hold down a decent job, so they USE the only thing they have.
To trap their future.

For crying out loud, how many times do you have to read about yet another and another story like this.

Its a career choice for some, given the right circumstances.

And its those that lack the real moral values, they are preditors no more, no less.
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its 8 AM relax dude
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So Guys, there you go.

Whether your the father or not, you dont have to live with a paternity suit any more.

The simple lack of comment from the girls here is testament that they dont have any good answer to the scam that they have been running against the males for years.

Oh it was your fault and now YOU have to pay for the rest of your life while I sit on it till the next victim comes along and then I can sue him too...

what a joke, and the answer was always there.

All that was needed was to replace the guilt with some logic and common sense.

I'll keep tuned in to see how many guys save their backsides with this logic.

Recon it'll be huge.
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Well, first of all it sounds to me like you are terribly bitter about the concept of child support...I'm just guessing here, but like another poster said, A DNA test ends all discussion on the matter. A person, no matter if it is male or female who has a child, has a MORAL obligation to care for and raise that child. For an absent parent, which I guess more than not is the father, if they will not morally uphold this responsibility to the offspring they created, then at the very least, they are obliged to help financially support that child so that the parent who IS stepping up to the plate has at least some level of help.

I hate to kill your visions of grandeur, but child support, which is REALLY what your post is about, is NOT a gravy train. In fact, its a mathematical equation taking into account the income of both parents. Child support is also not paid, "For the rest of your life" as you have so boldly stated. It is for the duration that the child is a child, which can include past the age of 18 but going to college, which is what any reasonable parent would want for their kid. I can assure you that NO ONE has ever "gotten rich" or achieved some level of "long term financial gain" from an absent parent being forced to at least financially HELP pay for the child that they created.

In my own personal opinion, the only person who sounds like they have bloodthirsty motives, would be yourself, OP. Kill it so the absent parent doesn't have to support it??? Ridiculous. Pro-Choice means that the person is free to choose and whether anyone agrees or disagrees with that statement is irrelevant. Pro-Choice doesn't equal Pro-Abortion.

"Inappropriate misuse of another persons property (semen) without consent and so forth."

Well, guy...possession is 9/10's of the law and if you want to have an answer for your ridiculous assertions, then there it is. By your failed logic, your "property" would be seen as a gift in the eyes of your fantasy court, so good luck with that. Pleasures of the flesh can always lead to pregnancy, no matter how well a "woman knows her cycle" and sometimes, their "property" can swim their way through several forms of birth control.

Here is an idea to make sure this NEVER happens to you...

Set up your LEGAL AND BINDING "contract" with any woman you wish to engage in short (LMFAO), harmless pleasures of the flesh and see which base you get to. lulz

Guess what being a parent is all about, OP?

Its called being responsible for your actions.

END OF STORY.
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And now there is high-risk HPV which condoms don't protect against. If you contract this, you can come down with mouth or throat or anal cancer, and if the woman contracts it she can get cervical or anal cancer. It naturally washes out of the systems of some people, but not all, and then the cancer starts a few short years down the road.

Who wants anal cancer?

OP I'm wondering if you grew up in the daycare generation, and now so much porn is everywhere that it gives men unrealistic expectations, and they start to believe having numerous anonymous sex partners is their right.

It reminds me of the 80s when homosexual men were having sex with so many partners, then AIDS came along.

Something always seems to get thrown out there when sex gets out of hand in a society.

Anyway I'd do some reading on STDs, especially HPV which is rising at alarming rates.

The laws of nature did not intend for us to fuck anyone who looks good to our eye.
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You know what?

These days with birth control etc, the CHOICE to pro-create SHOULD be a combined and informed consual agreement between both parties in an emotional/ sexual relationship...even if it is a one night stand.

So...when I see that any woman who becomes pregnant and then goes down the road of some sort of paternity gravy train, I ask myself all sorts of questions about ..

ENTRAPMENT...

THEFT OF SEMEN without consent..

INAPROPRIATE missuse of another persons property (semen) without consent and so forth.

I believe that women should know their own bodies, its functions and cycles and that this is their responsibility.

I think that these days, men have a right first and foremost to be consulted FIRST when a woman consents and engages herself in sexual relations.

She has a duty of care to explain any limitations that might be active for that moment in time.

And should she NOT gain FULL consent, and when she has ALL the choices that are available to her these days, then I honestly believe that she is the party guilty of disshonesty and therefore the proof of burden should clearly lay at her feet to prove that the pregnancy was an agreed and consentual goal of the bonding.

Otherwise, it was an act of differing motivations, one for a short and (harmless??) pleasure of the flesh.

The other a conived and planned execution of entrapment for her long term financial gain.

A truely bloodthirtsy motive.

And, I can see now just how many people will want to attack me for these views, so bring it on but make sure that your arguments are well founded and logical or otherwise, STFU your comments and attacks will just be your waste of time.

So hate me, but you know that I'm right.

Its called being responsible for your actions.

END OF STORY.
 Quoting: arkay


I agree with the concept that conception should be a mutually agreed upon event. That being said, if the guy does not want to risk birth control failure or being lied to, he needs to take full birth control responsibility himself. He needs to realize that there can be a failure of birth control and that if he does not want to risk paternity, don't have sexual intercourse or engage in activities that result in any of his reproductive fluids being, shall we say, out and about.

And, should you wonder, I'm a mother, soon to become a grandmother. I have two kids, one male, one female. Been married for a very long time. I told my kids that they need to be responsible for their own actions, not to expect others to do it for them.
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no argument there.

You obviously understand equality and the human state.
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ok..Im going to answer a couple of posts at once.
I knew the attacks would come.

So first, I am a baby boomer and grew up in the sixties.

Today that puts me in my 50's.

And Ive had a bloody hard life that has been amazing and terrific.

Ive done so many things that most people wouldnt believe, and most unselfish work, volunteering in all sorts of roles.

Today, I havent got much as far as personal effects and property go, but thats not whats important, living is, and Ive done my share of that and Im bloody proud of it too.

You know the one, sliding into the pearly gates completely worn out and screaming yahoooo!!

Next I am a parent and yes youve guessed it Im male.

But heres the thing.

I bought my prodgeny up...alone.

Yep, I worked, cooked, washed and ironed school uniforms prepared lunches and helped with homework every nite.

I stayed single for 10 years to do that.

When the child went to bed, I spent the rest of the night alone, every nite.

And here is the clincher, she, the ex, immediately got pregnant so she couldnt work and contribute financially to HER childs upbringing or welfare.

In all those 10 years she might have paid out something like $200.00 and that is it.

She never took the child away on any holiday, never contributed to education, nothing.

So yep I recon I'm qualified to have a few strong opinions on the subject, and no Im not bitter, I wouldnt change a thing if I had the choice again, it was the most rewarding experience I could ever have hoped to have in my life.

But it does demonstrate the inequities between men and women when it comes to bearing and raising kids...no?

Last Edited by arkay on 11/08/2011 09:10 AM
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Re: >>>PATERNITY SUITS, Justin Beiber's or any others, they are all BS. And this is why<<<
The women who file fake paternity suits in the hopes of getting money are crooks plain and simple. Even Micheal Jackson had many cases against him which was ludicrous for obvious reasons.

Life was never meant to be a paradise, no matter what your beliefs are, it's been proven from the beginning of time that if you give in too much to the bodily pleasures, it will ruin you in the end, whether it's from too much sex, alcohol, opium, oxycontin, food, etc. They all cause harm and misery to yourself and others if used in excess.

Sex is great and feels almost sacred when it's with someone you truly love. There is nothing like it. It's just important to be very attracted to and compatible with that person. I hope you are just still young with your hormones going wild right now, and that soon enough you'll meet someone you can really relate to and be attracted to and be sexually compatible with.

Life without a real family is not much of a life at all.
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so now who would like to add in their further bit.

And this should have never become personal, its about a broader issue than where its gone

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