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A New Europe Forming out of Financial Crisis: Ordo Ab Chao --> Novus Ordo Seclorum

 
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Merkel said Europe's plight was now so "unpleasant" that deep structural reforms were needed quickly, warning the rest of the world would not wait. "That will mean more Europe, not less Europe," she told a conference in Berlin.

She called for changes in EU treaties after French President Nicolas Sarkozy advocated a two-speed Europe in which euro zone countries accelerate and deepen integration while an expanding group outside the currency bloc stayed more loosely connected -- a signal that some members may have to quit the euro if the entire structure is not to crumble.

"It is time for a breakthrough to a new Europe," Merkel said. "A community that says, regardless of what happens in the rest of the world, that it can never again change its ground rules, that community simply can't survive."

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Did Merkel Just Usher In The Deustche Mark?

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Europe’s Darkness at Noon

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Merkel’s CDU Seeks to Make Euro Exits Possible, HB Reports

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By Allison Connolly
Nov. 9 (Bloomberg) -- German Chancellor Angela Merkel’s Christian Democratic Union party wants to make it possible for
European Union members to exit the euro area, Handelsblatt reported in a preview of an article to be published tomorrow
, citing unnamed participants in the discussion.

A commission within the party, that is crafting a framework to be presented at a party meeting, has proposed allowing a euro member who doesn’t want to or isn’t able to comply with the common currency rules to leave the euro region without losing membership in the EU, the newspaper said.
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"That will mean more Europe, not less Europe
A New Europe Order?

What´s with this Europe thingy?!
Why the eufemism Europe for the EU as SuperState?!
Something veeeeery fishy here.

The people love Europe, but they Hate EU.
That is her demagogisk input ere.
The snake Merkel has spoken.
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Italy at breaking point, Merkel calls for 'new Europe'

ROME/BERLIN - Italian borrowing costs reached breaking point on Wednesday after Prime Minister Silvio Berlusconi's insistence on elections instead of an interim government opened the way to prolonged instability and delays to long-promised economic reforms.

In a dramatic escalation of the euro zone debt crisis, Italian 10-year bond yields shot above the 7 percent level that is widely deemed unsustainable, reflecting an evaporation of investor confidence and prompting German Chancellor Angela Merkel to issue a call to arms.

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French and Germans explore idea of smaller euro zone

November 10, 2011 – PARIS – German and French officials have discussed plans for a radical overhaul of the European Union that would involve setting up a more integrated and potentially smaller euro zone, EU sources say. “France and Germany have had intense consultations on this issue over the last months, at all levels,” a senior EU official in Brussels told Reuters, speaking on condition of anonymity because of the sensitivity of the discussions. “We need to move very cautiously, but the truth is that we need to establish exactly the list of those who don’t want to be part of the club and those who simply cannot be part,” the official said. French President Nicolas Sarkozy gave some flavor of his thinking during an address to students in the eastern French city of Strasbourg on Tuesday, when he said a two-speed Europe — the euro zone moving ahead more rapidly than all 27 countries in the EU — was the only model for the future. The discussions among senior policymakers in Paris, Berlin and Brussels raised the possibility of one or more countries leaving the euro zone while the remaining core pushes on toward deeper economic integration, including on tax and fiscal policy. The change has been discussed on an “intellectual” level but had not moved to operational or technical discussions, the EU official said. A French finance ministry spokesman denied there was any project in the works to reduce the currency bloc’s membership. “There have been no conversations between French and German authorities at any level on decreasing the size of the euro zone,” the spokesman said. A radical overhaul of the European Union would be opposed by many members. “This will unravel everything our forebears have painstakingly built up and repudiate all that they stood for in the past sixty years,” one EU diplomat told Reuters. “This will redraw the map geopolitically and give rise to new tensions. It could truly be the end of Europe as we know it.” In Berlin, European Commission President Jose Manuel Barroso warned about the economic costs of any splits in the euro zone. Germany’s gross domestic product could contract and its economy would shed one million jobs, he said in a speech. Barroso said any push toward deeper economic policy integration should not come at the price of creating new divisions among EU members. “There cannot be peace and prosperity in the North or in the West of Europe, if there is no peace and prosperity in the South or in the East,” he said. To an extent the taboo on a country leaving the 17-member currency bloc was already broken at the G20 summit in Cannes last week, when German Chancellor Angela Merkel and Sarkozy both effectively said that Greece might have to drop out if the euro zone’s long-term stability was to be maintained.


Wars and Biblical Prophecy: The prophecy in 2nd chapter of the book of Daniel speaks of the final 10 nation confederacy descended from European countries that will be in league with the papal state prior to the return of Christ. “And as the toes of the feet (10) were part iron, and part of clay, so the kingdom shall be partly strong, and partly broken.” Daniel 2:42. Is this crumbling European Union, partly strong and partly broken, a part of this prophecy? George W. Bush said the EU would have a completely different look in 5 years. In the novel 1984, against a backdrop of the global police state, the world is subjected to a multi-generational series of endless wars in Eurasia as propaganda and unending surveillance haunts every citizens of the New World Order dystopian society. The Party tolerates no dissent and demands absolute pious obedience to the authority of the State. Eurasia is inhabited by almost 4 billion people and comprises more than 72.5% of the world’s total population.


Individual rights eroding: A Supreme Court justice on Tuesday expressed major concerns that the government would engage in round-the-clock surveillance reminiscent of the totalitarian world of the George Orwell novel 1984 if the court ruled in the government’s favor. The court heard oral arguments in the Jones case, in which the outcome will determine whether warrantless GPS tracking by law enforcement is an invasion of Fourth Amendment protection from unreasonable search and seizure. Justice Stephen Breyer questioned what a democratic society would look like if people believed the government was tracking them for days at a time. If you win this case, then there is nothing to prevent the police or the government from monitoring 24 hours a day the public movement of every citizen of the United States,” Breyer said. “So if you win, you suddenly produce what sounds like 1984 from their brief.”


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Based on the Occupy Movements and Financial Crisis, will the FED and ECB be done away with?

Remember, the Vatican just a few weeks ago was calling for a Centralized Bank.

It is becoming visibly apparent that the private banking systems are failing.


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Commentary on possible intervention by US and China:

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Who cares anymore: Ex- ECB vice-president Papdemos is named as the new Greek PM according to sources

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Former European Central Bank VP Papademos officially named new Greek PM, says president's office.

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EU warns of possible recession in euro zone

The European Union has warned that the 17-country euro zone could slip back into recession next year as the debt crisis shows alarming signs of spinning out of control.

The EU's economic watchdog, the European Commission, said Thursday its central forecast is that the euro zone will grow by only a paltry 0.5 per cent in 2012. That's way down on the 1.8 per cent prediction it made in the spring.


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Keiser Report: Gold Wars


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National Bank of Greece SA (NYSE: NBG) is surging on news that banker Lucas Papademos has been named as the new Greek Prime Minister. The 64-year old will replace outgoing Prime Minister George Papandreou as a part of the 130 billion Euro financial aid package approval to help the country’s finances.

As a part of his taking office, Papademos is saying that the interim Greek government aid deal is critical to the country’s future in the Euro and that the interim government must approve the deal on the table and more importantly it must agree to the proposed reforms and austerity measures.

National Bank of Greece shares are up over 9% in local Athens trading and shares are indicated up 7.3% at $0.59 in New York trading for its ADRs.



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Thanks for your work OP, 5 *****
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After Greece and Italy, where will Fed install its next puppet in a bloodless coup?

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We have drawn our lines back in order to format them better.

Everything in noisy chaos.

Retreat blabla.

Breakthrough, yes, but from the opposite side.
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European Central Bank orchestrates a coup in Greece.

The European Central Bank have orchestrated a coup in Greece. The European Central bankers have installed one of their own to replace Prime Minister George Papandreou. European Central Bank are replacing the elected Prime Minister of Greece with an appointed European Central Bank vice president, Lucas Papademos. The European Central Bank controlled government will be sworn in at 2 p.m. Friday.

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"That will mean more Europe, not less Europe
A New Europe Order?

What´s with this Europe thingy?!
Why the eufemism Europe for the EU as SuperState?!
Something veeeeery fishy here.

The people love Europe, but they Hate EU.
That is her demagogisk input ere.
The snake Merkel has spoken.
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Novus Ordo Blobum

Nobody wants them but like mold Merkel & Co, just keep reappearing with their bad breath and suitcases full of money.
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Angela Merkel to David Cameron: support us or we leave UK behind: German chancellor told prime minister.

German chancellor told prime minister that eurozone countries are prepared to draw up their own treaty without Britain

Germany's goal is to stabilise the eurozone in its current form, German Chancellor Angela Merkel says.

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In Possible Electoral Suicide France Gets More Austerity

The French government is going all out to preserve France's AAA bond rating. It might ensure its electoral defeat.


President Nicolas Sarkozi has more important matters on his mind than the embarrassment of an open mike betraying his conversation with Barack Obama.

The French president is up for reelection in half a year and he is leading up to the campaign with austerity measures. These includes hikes in VAT, advancing the implementation of postponing the retirement age from 60 to 62 and a higher Corporation tax.

As the example of Italy across the border has proven, countries that were once considered too big to fail have been caught up by the general European panic and by the downgrades of the rating agencies. The same fate awaits France.

Therefore the AAA rating awarded French debt has become the French financial Verdun position that must be held at all costs. If the AAA rating is breached, it will probably constitute the coup de grace to the French president's hopes for reelection. The government is counting on the maturity of the French voter in accepting the bitter medicine.

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***Italian Senate approves austerity package***

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'France will be the next to crumble', warns Gordon Brown

France risks becoming the next victim of the sovereign-debt crisis “in the coming weeks”, Gordon Brown, the former prime minister, has warned.

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The collapse of the eurozone would cause a crash that would instantly wipe out half of the value of Europe’s economy, plunging the continent into a depression as deep as the 1930s slump, the president of the European Commission has warned.

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U.K. Treasury prepares for ‘economic armageddon’ if Euro falls apart


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Its all such a set up... their plans and contingency plans all leading to the same destination.
Corral all the greedy barstewards into one place and they will be revealed in all their glory, as the parasitical traitors they are.
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Collapse of the EU would be great for us all. The NWO who created it are probably not going to allow that!
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SLOVAKIA'S PRIME MINISTER SAYS EURO ZONE SPLIT MAY BE NECESSARY, DE FACTO SPLIT ALREADY EXISTS

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