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Should Paterno be allowed to finish his season at Penn State?

 
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Should Paterno be allowed to finish his season at Penn State?
My take-----------------let him coach the five games or so he has left.


While Paterno definitely should have done more, as he himself says in his statement, he DID report this. He should have gone to the police, though. Nobody denies that. His greatest failing was letting the men he coached for so many decades down (in that he did not live up to the standard he himself set), but he is NOT the jerk a few are making him out to be.

But what about Pres. Stanier? He was above EVERYBODY. Of course he knew. Yet he did DIDLY. Good thing he s resigning.
Why are people seemingly pinning this on Paterno, though?

I don't get.

Thank you for your consideration.
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What the heck does that mean? I happen to despise Bubba, BTW. So you are saying he SHOULD resign immediately?
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no way!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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Thanks for the succinct answer.
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Re: Should Paterno be allowed to finish his season at Penn State?
My take-----------------let him coach the five games or so he has left.


While Paterno definitely should have done more, as he himself says in his statement, he DID report this. He should have gone to the police, though. Nobody denies that. His greatest failing was letting the men he coached for so many decades down (in that he did not live up to the standard he himself set), but he is NOT the jerk a few are making him out to be.

But what about Pres. Stanier? He was above EVERYBODY. Of course he knew. Yet he did DIDLY. Good thing he s resigning.
Why are people seemingly pinning this on Paterno, though?

I don't get.

Thank you for your consideration.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1419389


Everyone that knew but didn't call police should be fired for one and charged as accessories. They all wanted to protect their precious football program. I don't know how any of them can live with themselves. Maybe Paterno needs a good cornholing himself to get his head right. Its too bad that if he retired years ago when he should have he would have at least left the game with some dignity. Now he will be remembered as a disgrace.
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Fuck no.
Ban guns to "save the children" but killing them in the womb is totally cool......I see; it makes perfect sense now.
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Re: Should Paterno be allowed to finish his season at Penn State?
My take-----------------let him coach the five games or so he has left.


While Paterno definitely should have done more, as he himself says in his statement, he DID report this. He should have gone to the police, though. Nobody denies that. His greatest failing was letting the men he coached for so many decades down (in that he did not live up to the standard he himself set), but he is NOT the jerk a few are making him out to be.

But what about Pres. Stanier? He was above EVERYBODY. Of course he knew. Yet he did DIDLY. Good thing he s resigning.
Why are people seemingly pinning this on Paterno, though?

I don't get.

Thank you for your consideration.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1419389


Everyone that knew but didn't call police should be fired for one and charged as accessories. They all wanted to protect their precious football program. I don't know how any of them can live with themselves. Maybe Paterno needs a good cornholing himself to get his head right. Its too bad that if he retired years ago when he should have he would have at least left the game with some dignity. Now he will be remembered as a disgrace.
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I understand where you are coming from, but I have to respectfully say that it is not as simple as that.
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Re: Should Paterno be allowed to finish his season at Penn State?
My take-----------------let him coach the five games or so he has left.


While Paterno definitely should have done more, as he himself says in his statement, he DID report this. He should have gone to the police, though. Nobody denies that. His greatest failing was letting the men he coached for so many decades down (in that he did not live up to the standard he himself set), but he is NOT the jerk a few are making him out to be.

But what about Pres. Stanier? He was above EVERYBODY. Of course he knew. Yet he did DIDLY. Good thing he s resigning.
Why are people seemingly pinning this on Paterno, though?

I don't get.

Thank you for your consideration.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1419389


seriously he needs then be Prosecuted he is probably a perv. too by not going to the police.
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Re: Should Paterno be allowed to finish his season at Penn State?
My take-----------------let him coach the five games or so he has left.


While Paterno definitely should have done more, as he himself says in his statement, he DID report this. He should have gone to the police, though. Nobody denies that. His greatest failing was letting the men he coached for so many decades down (in that he did not live up to the standard he himself set), but he is NOT the jerk a few are making him out to be.

But what about Pres. Stanier? He was above EVERYBODY. Of course he knew. Yet he did DIDLY. Good thing he s resigning.
Why are people seemingly pinning this on Paterno, though?

I don't get.

Thank you for your consideration.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1419389


Everyone that knew but didn't call police should be fired for one and charged as accessories. They all wanted to protect their precious football program. I don't know how any of them can live with themselves. Maybe Paterno needs a good cornholing himself to get his head right. Its too bad that if he retired years ago when he should have he would have at least left the game with some dignity. Now he will be remembered as a disgrace.
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I understand where you are coming from, but I have to respectfully say that it is not as simple as that.
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It would be as simple as that if it were YOUR 10 yr old son who was raped.
Ban guns to "save the children" but killing them in the womb is totally cool......I see; it makes perfect sense now.
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Re: Should Paterno be allowed to finish his season at Penn State?
My take-----------------let him coach the five games or so he has left.


While Paterno definitely should have done more, as he himself says in his statement, he DID report this. He should have gone to the police, though. Nobody denies that. His greatest failing was letting the men he coached for so many decades down (in that he did not live up to the standard he himself set), but he is NOT the jerk a few are making him out to be.

But what about Pres. Stanier? He was above EVERYBODY. Of course he knew. Yet he did DIDLY. Good thing he s resigning.
Why are people seemingly pinning this on Paterno, though?

I don't get.

Thank you for your consideration.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1419389


every single one of THEM that had knowledge of little boys being raped
should be hauled in and the proper charges filed.
what a horrific story.

....paternO reported it ? to whom ?
what was their damn problem ?
WHAT KIND OF MAN LETS THIS CONTINUE ?
YEAH........big strong male football players/coach--
let little boys be raped.

these are NOT MEN.
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rape should carry with it the death penalty and there are plenty that would easily pull the switch/administer the drugs
and pronounce these bastards.

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wonder was sandusky involved with nambla,transporting these kids to others and kiddie porn as well-- ?
felt so free to rape in the shower room...unconcerned...etc.
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Re: Should Paterno be allowed to finish his season at Penn State?
My take-----------------let him coach the five games or so he has left.


While Paterno definitely should have done more, as he himself says in his statement, he DID report this. He should have gone to the police, though. Nobody denies that. His greatest failing was letting the men he coached for so many decades down (in that he did not live up to the standard he himself set), but he is NOT the jerk a few are making him out to be.

But what about Pres. Stanier? He was above EVERYBODY. Of course he knew. Yet he did DIDLY. Good thing he s resigning.
Why are people seemingly pinning this on Paterno, though?

I don't get.

Thank you for your consideration.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1419389


Everyone that knew but didn't call police should be fired for one and charged as accessories. They all wanted to protect their precious football program. I don't know how any of them can live with themselves. Maybe Paterno needs a good cornholing himself to get his head right. Its too bad that if he retired years ago when he should have he would have at least left the game with some dignity. Now he will be remembered as a disgrace.
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I understand where you are coming from, but I have to respectfully say that it is not as simple as that.
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It would be as simple as that if it were YOUR 10 yr old son who was raped.
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You know, that's true, but on the other hand, is he the ULTIMATE villain here? Sandusky, of course, is the ultimate one, but second to that Paterno?
How about Speiner? He had ultimate control of this and did DIDLEY. And he could stay? Fuck that.

What about the whole fucking school, to be honest? They literally worshipped a guy (Paterno) and a system (Penn State and its footnball program) like they were GODS. Which they were NOT. People forgot Paterno is human being, not a God, and Penn State is an institution, not a God. Which made it easier to ignore certain things. In a way, everybody connected to Penn State comes up short here.
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rape should carry with it the death penalty and there are plenty that would easily pull the switch/administer the drugs
and pronounce these bastards.

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wonder was sandusky involved with nambla,transporting these kids to others and kiddie porn as well-- ?
felt so free to rape in the shower room...unconcerned...etc.
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I just thought-----if I was a player at Penn State, I would sure as hell would never want to shower on those shower rooms where he did those mentionable things to those kids....................I would feel physically ill just stepping foot in them.................I don't know what the hell Penn state is going to do about that.redfaceyak

Another fact is that Sandusky's autobiography was named "touched." Talk about demonically inspired irony. wall
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no, he should spend the rest of his life in jail, he is pure evil.
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Re: Should Paterno be allowed to finish his season at Penn State?
My take-----------------let him coach the five games or so he has left.


While Paterno definitely should have done more, as he himself says in his statement, he DID report this. He should have gone to the police, though. Nobody denies that. His greatest failing was letting the men he coached for so many decades down (in that he did not live up to the standard he himself set), but he is NOT the jerk a few are making him out to be.

But what about Pres. Stanier? He was above EVERYBODY. Of course he knew. Yet he did DIDLY. Good thing he s resigning.
Why are people seemingly pinning this on Paterno, though?

I don't get.

Thank you for your consideration.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1419389


every single one of THEM that had knowledge of little boys being raped
should be hauled in and the proper charges filed.
what a horrific story.

....paternO reported it ? to whom ?
what was their damn problem ?
WHAT KIND OF MAN LETS THIS CONTINUE ?
YEAH........big strong male football players/coach--
let little boys be raped.

these are NOT MEN.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1169966


Really, he KNEW what was happening? I'd love to know where you read this, because it sure could help the case.

He was told something (nobody knows what exactly, yet) second hand and passed it up the chain of command like he was supposed to do.

Why is no one condemning the grad student who actually WITNESSED abuse. He could have called the police and ended it all right there.

I'm sick of these reactionary retards pinning this on Paterno because it's the only recognizable name. Half of these fucks have obviously not done the due diligence on the case. They see the name Paterno and child abuse and they lose their minds.

He should be able to finish out the year and then he should be gone.
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My take-----------------let him coach the five games or so he has left.



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Oh why not OP, he is a "legend" after all & it was only 10 year kids getting raped by HIS assistant coach

I played college football and I know these coaches will sell their souls to keep their jobs...Paterno sold his
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Re: Should Paterno be allowed to finish his season at Penn State?
My take-----------------let him coach the five games or so he has left.


While Paterno definitely should have done more, as he himself says in his statement, he DID report this. He should have gone to the police, though. Nobody denies that. His greatest failing was letting the men he coached for so many decades down (in that he did not live up to the standard he himself set), but he is NOT the jerk a few are making him out to be.

But what about Pres. Stanier? He was above EVERYBODY. Of course he knew. Yet he did DIDLY. Good thing he s resigning.
Why are people seemingly pinning this on Paterno, though?

I don't get.

Thank you for your consideration.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1419389


every single one of THEM that had knowledge of little boys being raped
should be hauled in and the proper charges filed.
what a horrific story.

....paternO reported it ? to whom ?
what was their damn problem ?
WHAT KIND OF MAN LETS THIS CONTINUE ?
YEAH........big strong male football players/coach--
let little boys be raped.

these are NOT MEN.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1169966


Really, he KNEW what was happening? I'd love to know where you read this, because it sure could help the case.

He was told something (nobody knows what exactly, yet) second hand and passed it up the chain of command like he was supposed to do.

Why is no one condemning the grad student who actually WITNESSED abuse. He could have called the police and ended it all right there.

I'm sick of these reactionary retards pinning this on Paterno because it's the only recognizable name. Half of these fucks have obviously not done the due diligence on the case. They see the name Paterno and child abuse and they lose their minds.

He should be able to finish out the year and then he should be gone.
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I thought it was a Janitor who witnessed Sandusky's molestation episdoe.

I DO agree that just passing it up to his supervisors was not enough.
The thing is, and folks do not understand this, he was not legally required to go to the police at the time at the time, and apparently not now (unfortnately). Just heard this from a legal expert talking to Anderson Cooper on CNN.

SHOULD have, absolutely-----but legally they did not have to. They were pbligated to notify thei direct superiors, but not the police. And this guy did. And sandusky legally was NOT part of the Penn State football program, having retired in 1999. So appraently they felt the decision to contact the police was up to Penn State officials's "discretion."redface

Where the ball was dropped by Speiner, Paterno and others was not following up----just doing the "minimum" and just letting the matter drop.

But really----is Paterno the ultimate guy to blame for that? What about speiner? It was during HIS watch.
And yes, what about the Janitor who ALSO did not folloow up?

Were they failed was not following up and letting this die.
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My take-----------------let him coach the five games or so he has left.



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Oh why not OP, he is a "legend" after all & it was only 10 year kids getting raped by HIS assistant coach

I played college football and I know these coaches will sell their souls to keep their jobs...Paterno sold his
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You know, in a way i agree with you. He will have to answer for that in the afterlife. i guess the guy was just TOO loyal to sandusky (and too unbelieving that his "friend" would do something like this).

I just feel that if Paterno is going out, then Speiner and half the school should go. Purify the fucking place and start all over again from scratch.
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no, he should spend the rest of his life in jail, he is pure evil.
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And Sandusky is......................????????????????????
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He should, and then some. He did what he could, and it was up to the AD and board of regents to pass along the info.

Joe Pa is being wrongly implacated in all of this and it's pretty damned sad.
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Hell no!

He put his career ahead of doing the right thing and turned to a blind eye.
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He should, and then some. He did what he could, and it was up to the AD and board of regents to pass along the info.

Joe Pa is being wrongly implacated in all of this and it's pretty damned sad.
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That's what I am saying, too. The WHOLE fucking place needs to be fumigated and new people put it its place.

Jeez.
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My take-----------------let him coach the five games or so he has left.



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Oh why not OP, he is a "legend" after all & it was only 10 year kids getting raped by HIS assistant coach

I played college football and I know these coaches will sell their souls to keep their jobs...Paterno sold his
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You know, in a way i agree with you. He will have to answer for that in the afterlife. i guess the guy was just TOO loyal to sandusky (and too unbelieving that his "friend" would do something like this).

I just feel that if Paterno is going out, then Speiner and half the school should go. Purify the fucking place and start all over again from scratch.
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Its a shame OP, Paterno seems like a decent man, he just made the wrong call BIG TIME
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Hell no!

He put his career ahead of doing the right thing and turned to a blind eye.
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he didn't follow up and let it lie----YES, but he did not "turn a blind eye."
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Hell no

He was an enabler. More concerned of his "legacy" than helping children in need. Remember this happened in '02.
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My take-----------------let him coach the five games or so he has left.



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Oh why not OP, he is a "legend" after all & it was only 10 year kids getting raped by HIS assistant coach

I played college football and I know these coaches will sell their souls to keep their jobs...Paterno sold his
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You know, in a way i agree with you. He will have to answer for that in the afterlife. i guess the guy was just TOO loyal to sandusky (and too unbelieving that his "friend" would do something like this).

I just feel that if Paterno is going out, then Speiner and half the school should go. Purify the fucking place and start all over again from scratch.
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Its a shame OP, Paterno seems like a decent man, he just made the wrong call BIG TIME
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Indeed. Sadly, Indeed.
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He didn't witness anything and he did report what someone told him to a higher up person at the school. The persons that actually witnessed the abuse and didn't stop it or report it to authorities, they are the ones who should be held accountable.
Here's the actual Grand Jury account
[link to cnninsession.files.wordpress.com]
- Lots of people actually saw what was going on, got upset, but didn't report it to police or step in and save the boys they saw getting assaulted. Sick!
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Get rid of the old fuck,hire someone for 1/4 his salary and then lower the Penn Statetards tuition costs.......
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My take-----------------let him coach the five games or so he has left.


While Paterno definitely should have done more, as he himself says in his statement, he DID report this. He should have gone to the police, though. Nobody denies that. His greatest failing was letting the men he coached for so many decades down (in that he did not live up to the standard he himself set), but he is NOT the jerk a few are making him out to be.

But what about Pres. Stanier? He was above EVERYBODY. Of course he knew. Yet he did DIDLY. Good thing he s resigning.
Why are people seemingly pinning this on Paterno, though?

I don't get.

Thank you for your consideration.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1419389


every single one of THEM that had knowledge of little boys being raped
should be hauled in and the proper charges filed.
what a horrific story.

....paternO reported it ? to whom ?
what was their damn problem ?
WHAT KIND OF MAN LETS THIS CONTINUE ?
YEAH........big strong male football players/coach--
let little boys be raped.

these are NOT MEN.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1169966


Really, he KNEW what was happening? I'd love to know where you read this, because it sure could help the case.

He was told something (nobody knows what exactly, yet) second hand and passed it up the chain of command like he was supposed to do.

Why is no one condemning the grad student who actually WITNESSED abuse. He could have called the police and ended it all right there.

I'm sick of these reactionary retards pinning this on Paterno because it's the only recognizable name. Half of these fucks have obviously not done the due diligence on the case. They see the name Paterno and child abuse and they lose their minds.

He should be able to finish out the year and then he should be gone.
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Your wrong....When your defensive coordinator for 30 years is fucking children in the football complex and your WR coach tells you that and you don't go ape shit, you should be a hell of a lot more than fired. Paterno protected him. And for that the axe will fall.
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