Something to the "Astro Mumbo Jumbo" after all...? More 'homework' inside...

said priest to altarboy

You do what you do because you want people to dislike you.

But, no one's rising to the bait...do you know why?

Oops, meant to quote Amanapple, haha.

Oh yeah? What if monkeys fly outta my butt?

Apollo Illuminaughty and/or fellowearthling:

I would like to learn about astrology. It would be great if you would suggest a good starting point.

Secondly, what charting program(s) do you use?

Thank you!

It's my Birthday!! :)
If you ever get a second..lol

Female
Longview, TX
11/11/1976
9:16 pm

:boobbump:

OK, here's some more 'mumbo-jumbo'...

I may be a wee bit out with some
of the rising signs if there's
a daylight savings element I've
missed. If you know your rising
signs location already, please
tell me so I can confirm the
data. If I'm out I may have to
edit your readings too!



AC2617375...

5 Earth, 4 Water, One Air...

Cancer Rising, Arian Midheaven.

Your practical, earthy side should
really be asking you now "Why did I
come to this thread?" I mean, really,
Mumbo Jumbo 'stuff' instead of the
latest Popular Mechanics?

Appearances aren't what they
seem with you, despite your
'dapper' dress-sense. There is
a secretive and sometimes deceptive
element to your thoughts, words and
actions which hasn't any malice,
it's a 'defence' mechanism you were
conditioned to adopt quite early on
in your life. Anyway, we're going
scratch away beneath those surface
'syptoms' today.

Adaptable, warm and friendly, you
may donate time/moneyto charity and
make good use of the social
connections you're quietly nurturing.
Wherever you invest your time, it's
appreciated ~ sometimes more when
you're absent ~ as you're a good,
smart worker.

Underneath this magnanimous,
self-protective exterior is a
very astute, slightly stubborn
(I'm being polite) and very
pragmatic person. You're quite
intuitive but have difficulty
integrating this with your
earthy energies. You tend to
verbalize quickly and assertively
without heeding (integrating) your own
intuitive perceptions first. Not
one for routine, your originality
struggles to find acceptance from
others and you're not likely to
listen or heed any unsolicited advice
regardless of how well meaning the
would be 'advisor' is.

Having unrealistic expectations of
yourself and others may have left
you frustrated, especially in your
youth. I'm also not sure that you've
ever had a true sense of job
satisfaction ~ once again your
expectations are challenging the
Universe and the Universe rarely
rises to your lofty ideals.

Your home and domestic security is
paramount (do you live by the water?).
Anyway, I bet it's quite spacious and
aesthetic, eh? Children love coming to
visit here too, they feel safe and
enjoy the space and 'structure' you've
created with their security and well-
being in mind. Here is where your
nurturing and sypathetic energies find
a receptive outlet and this is very
precious to you. This is where you
find 'self-satisfaction' on many
levels and you're prepared to defend
that with whatever it takes.



Last Edited by PhellowEarthling on 11/12/2011 02:26 AM

I may be a wee bit out with some
of the rising signs if there's
a daylight savings element I've
missed. If you know your rising
signs location already, please
tell me so I can confirm the
data. If I'm out I may have to
edit your readings too!



AC5014041

3 Earth, 3 Fire, 2 Air, 2 Water
Sagittarius Rising, Libran Midheaven.

Practical, (head) strong and not
afraid of conflict, you're
also very self-disciplined,
sometimes a little too self-
critical and have a well
established, quite rigid,
daily routine. Having said
that, you're likely to have had
a few 'binges' from time to time,
compensating for the odd
disappointment. Try not to
be too hard on yourself during
these times.

With all the essentials supplied
in abundance by a slightly doting
mother (grandparent(s)?), you are
also quite capable of catering to
your own physical and financial
security and freedom, and that
of your children, if any. Not that
you were spoiled, if anything
early childhood may have been
quite a frugal existance as far
as having the finer things goes.
Maybe you took on a nursing role
for an ederly family member or
some other committment in your
youth? An experience like this
may have imparted a slightly
serious outlook.

I'm not sure you've been as
successful as you think you
should be and may tend to have
some unrealistic expectations in
the business/fame and fortune
department? Not that there's any
bitterness but I sense some
frustration in the financial/
success dept. Beware of over-
comitting yourself ~ too much
stress can affect your health if
you're not careful.

Beware of any power-hunger ~
not that you crave being a
despot! It may be subtle, but
your motives may be the area
to put your self-regulation
efforts to most effective use?
That's all I'll say about that!

An effective, thoughtful and
original communicator, you love
stimulating intellectual
debates with others and
are capable of holding your
own on almost any topic.
You're a good listener too
and so are quite often sought
out by others for your sage
and free flowing advice.
May be drawn to acting as
your quite a story-teller
and don't seek but are
naturally adept at holding
center stage through your
un-self-conciousness, when
you're not beating yourself
up for having that donut at
lunch!




Last Edited by PhellowEarthling on 12/01/2011 06:02 PM

I may be a wee bit out with some
of the rising signs if there's
a daylight savings element I've
missed. If you know your rising
signs location already, please
tell me so I can confirm the
data. If I'm out I may have to
edit your readings too!



The last one for now...
also with Leo Rising!

That's Fairbanks, ALASKA right?

3 Earth, 3 Air, 3 Water, 1 Fire
Leo Rising, Piscean Midheaven

Another Full Moon child!

You love being of service (perhaps
destined for greatness through
a contribution of global benefit)
and you derive great pleasure
from being of practical usefulness
to others. One of the most selfless
charts I've seen!

Childhood may have been a bit
'bumpy' initially but you were well
nurtured by a loving mother who may
have seemed quite distant at times?
Your fathers practicality 'rubbed'
off on you... eventually. I'm not
sure, but I suspect he may not have
been present much in your early years
yet his ethical example to you is
indelibly etched in your core make-up.

As a young man you'd have attracted
more than your fair share of the girls
attentions, drawn by your selfless
nature, good looks and quirky bent.
You would have been a 'good catch',
as they say, but you were probably
quite reluctant to commit as there
may have been a feeling of 'missing
out' on something (someone!) even
better (worthier?), of your
considerable talents.

Totally honest and sincere, you're
an effective communicator and your
intuitive insightfulness of the
Universe lends itself to an
educational, scientific role.
Independantly minded, you thrive on
breaking new ground and your ability
to understand 'how' things work,
combined with an excellent memory
means you probably didn't have to
swat for exams too much and still
made excellent grades.

A lover, not a fighter, you avoid
conflict, have a soothing voice and
others are drawn to you as you put
them at ease, effortlessly. Perhaps
a little too trusting, you should
be wary of risking money without
ensuring the trustworthiness of
partners. A bit of a dreamer,
you sometimes struggle to
keep grounded. Your able to
integrate the subtle Universal
'messages' received in the 'dream
state' and express them in a
way others can understand,
giving much 'food for thought'.
It's possible you would make a very
good medium but I sense some
reluctance to 'open' yourself up
to this side as it clashes with
your rationality and 'acceptability'
too much (I know that feeling well!).

You loath stereo-typical routines
and are easily bored by mundane
and repititive tasks. A job on a
production line is definitely not
for you! You enjoy a challenge
although may be a bit reserved about
your own abilities. Developing your
self-confidence that little bit more
should see you finding that real
fulfillment you seek from your
endeavours and are, very, very
deserved of.

Thanks SS, a real priveldge for me
to have had this opportunity.



Last Edited by PhellowEarthling on 11/11/2011 10:40 PM

for later reading

I started with "How to be Your
Own Astrolger" and Linda Goodman's
Sun and Love signs.

I also like Johnathon Cainer -
[link to www.cainer.com] - he has a really
neat way of putting things.

I use a really old copy of
Astro World for Windows. It's
quite simple, easy to use and
can be spookily accurate.
It doesn't have the asteroids
though so I'm going to upgrade
soon.



Last Edited by PhellowEarthling on 11/11/2011 10:43 PM

Weeeeee! Thank You!!!

This part: I may be a wee bit out with some
of the rising signs if there's
a daylight savings element I've
missed. If you know your rising
signs location already, please
tell me so I can confirm the
data. If I'm out I may have to
edit your readings too!

I dunno. I'll have to get back to you when I find out.

I was gonna go over a few things, but not yet.

You hit many deep things accurately. This is most best to me.

I want to first answer your question. We go from there? Ok?

I will comment on each sentence, and give details, I have gone through many, many things... Hopefully it will benefit us both, I think.

On the closing twilight, each gift is chosen.

Many thanks for the reception
to this reading! To be honest,
I was a bit reluctant to
publish it!

I am not quite sure if your
Ascendant is in Cancer or Leo ~
the Midheaven may not be quite
right either but it seems the
'guts of it' is relatively
accurate and I'm grateful for
your willingness to share
your 'astro-self' on here!

And yes, let's make sure the
data's accurate... most
important in this matter!



Last Edited by PhellowEarthling on 11/12/2011 12:00 AM

Hi AC2617375!

You have a Cancerian Ascendant,
not Leo as I my old, usually
very trusty, software told me!

Your Asc nicely trines your moon
in Pisces and it's nicely aspected
to your Mars/Mercury conjunction
in Taurus. It also adds even more
emphasis to your 'homeliness.'

I've made a wee edit to the original
reading.

As Above, So Below.

Makes sense doesnt it.

It certainly seems to Amy!

I'm the fortunate one
and I appreciate your
willingness to let me
practice on you!

5 Water, 4 Earth, 1 Air, 1 Fire
Gemini Rising, Piscean Midheaven

I will really have to watch my words
closely here... I get the uncanny
feeling she's 'listening' to my typing!
You've got 'psychic' written all over
your chart in all caps!

Optimistic and expressive, you're a
popular person who's company is regularly
sought, especially by those needing some
genuine sympathy and a receptive ear.

An emotionally driven earthling with
the ability to light up the planet
with your exuberant energies, you 'feel'
your way through this incarnation and this
intuitive approach serves you well in
all manner of endeavours, as long as it's
not clouded by intense emotions. A tendency
to take things a bit too personally at times.

I get the impression your parents were
supportive of your professional choices
although life probably wasn't that easy
during the turbulent times of puberty.
Your freedom is very important to you
and if they (Dad?) placed restrictions on you,
the Mars~Pluto square tells me you would
have resented it quite strongly.

You're a clear, frank communicator and you
ensure you're being heard. You have absolutely
no hesitation in letting someone know
exactly how you're feeling. You're quite
happy to adopt a leadership role if necessary,
although I think you prefer to quietly chip
away at 'stuff' in secret, almost.

Children? If you're not a mother, almost
a grandmother? I'd be amazed as you have
a really strong nurturing instinct and the
kids love your cooking! As well as being
great around the home, you're a bit of a
whizz at whatever it is you do to make
money. Not saying you're exceedingly wealthy,
but, given the pride you take in whatever
you do professionally, you should be in the
top 10% of your field. You're self-sacrificing
tendencies would be suited to some form of
nursing or perhaps you're a vet as I bet you
relate well to our four legged friends too!

Your family is your real 'wealth' and the
super-strong bonds you've forged with them,
have been tempered over time to the point
now that you know you can withstand what-
ever life's going to throw at you next!

Hi there!
I would love to know my chart. Would really appreciate it!
birthdate: 6/28/69 10:00 AM or 10:30. zip code 30286 (Thomaston, GA)

WOW! You are really, really good. Bravo! Right on.

Did this do the trick?

Zodiac in degrees 0.00 Placidus Orb:0
Sun Gemini 13.55 AscendantCancer 6.51
Moon Pisces 26.59 II Leo 16.47
Mercury Taurus 21.51 III Virgo 10.38
Venus Cancer 6.08R IV Libra 10.51
Mars Taurus 20.40 V Scorpio 17.28
Jupiter Taurus 12.30 VI Sagittarius 4.45
Saturn Pisces 4.57 VII Capricorn 6.51
Uranus Virgo 6.08 VIII Aquarius 6.47
Neptune Scorpio 15.44 R IX Pisces 10.38
Pluto Virgo 11.39 Midheaven Aries 0.51
Lilith Sagittarius 15.47 XI Taurus 7.28
Asc nodeCancer 2.09 XII Gemini 4.45


Planet Aspect Planet Orb/Value
Sun Square Pluto 2.16 -69
Sun Sextile Midheaven 3.04 47
Moon Trine Ascendant 0.08 88
Mercury Conjunction Mars 1.10 346
Mercury Conjunction Jupiter 9.20 34
Mercury Opposition Neptune 6.06 -64
Venus Trine Saturn 1.11 94
Venus Sextile Uranus 0.00 200
Venus Square Midheaven 4.43 -15
Mars Conjunction Jupiter 8.10 56
Mars Opposition Neptune 4.56 -51
Jupiter Trine Uranus 6.22 16
Jupiter Opposition Neptune 3.14 -90
Jupiter Trine Pluto 0.51 54
Saturn Opposition Uranus 1.11 -122
Saturn Opposition Pluto 6.42 -26
Uranus Conjunction Pluto 5.31 72
1007 -437 570

Heh, I should have read a bit further down before posting the location...yep!

Ok, now up to your adjusted reading...I'll go through it and tell you where I see the hits.

Earlier in my life this definitely would have been Mumbo Jumbo...ESPECIALLY Astrology, lol. When I search for something I expect to find "it". Interesting, but lots of loose ends. But I'm curious so eventually I can't help but take another look and see if I missed something. People like yourself and AI caused that and I'm happy I did.

That second paragraph yeah, yeah, yeah....all of it.

On the next yep I'm certainly adaptable warm and friendly...to those I deem warrant it. If I don't, well I'm not anyones idea of a good time if it goes there.

Give a little time and money to charity, but wish it could be a lot more and plan on making that so.

I don't know if I make "good use" regarding social connections. Although you could definitely say I pick up on connections and dynamics and meanings and the uses of. Also what's not there and what that means and how to use that.

So I can get to pretty much anywhere I want either by surfing these flows, pitting one wave against another unbeknownst to either, or if I am forced to, asserting my will. Not that I'm complaining. I just prefer more elegant means. I don't risk myself unless I have to...and when you use force sometimes you get some used against you too.

Wherever I invest my time...yeah spot on.

Yep, "Slightly stubborn" lol. I just can't stop doing whatever it takes to have it my way. Oops! Did I say that?

Yep intuitive AND yep have trouble integrating it...I am making improvements fortunately. It's been a long hard road on that. I verbalize quickly and assertively before integrating the intuitive side all the time. It's because many times I don't trust my interpretations and because by trusting and going forth with it I will be on unfamiliar ground and not quite know what to do with it. Any suggestions?

Oh, just thought of something. When it comes slow like with coworkers I have all the time in the world to integrate it, not so with quick social interactions. So I like..."fumble" it.

The rest of the paragraph after the intuitive part is spot on. Reason why I don't often listen to unsolicited advice is because others mostly don't put the same care and consideration into arriving at a discernment as I do.

Unrealistic expectations..well I didn't think them so at the time, of course. That was another hard lesson. It's manageable now.

Job satisfaction...ummmm...hmmmm...wellll. Yeah satisfaction is an elusive thing for me but probably not in the way most would think. I thrive in difficult environments, sometimes creating the difficulties to push myself higher. Also I have no fear of the unknown, of change. I also trust my capabilities completely which results in great confidence in myself. Last thing, I can have a temper...so when you put it all together enjoy me while I'm there because it probably won't last long lol.

Domestic security is definitely paramount. I don't have the money for a spacious home but if I did it certainly would be. Aesthetic, yes please! I love Art, color, contrast, flowing lines, harsh lines, texture, beauty, the unexpected, the surprise, the soaring and feeling exhilirated. The water is a great catch, I looooove the water. Looooove it. A few miles away now, that will change very shortly.

Interesting about the children part, I do love playing with them and teaching them and caring for their well-being. I make sure they feel comfortable and safe and have fun. I just don't have a lot of experience with it. So i'm unsure how to proceed sometimes. My mind always searches though.

Defend that with whatever it takes? I will protect anyone who needs it, with my entire being. If someone crosses my sensibilities with what I think is right and what is wrong I can't help but interject myself into the equation...and this will be a heavy weight on that scale.

I think you have the rising signs right Fellowearthling, thank you for this.
It is mostly accurate although I do not see myself as power hungry but there are times I have to contain issues of control, which I am aware of.

Hi Thoth!

When that sensation of 'knowing' is
'impressed' upon you, it challenges
your Earthy, intellectual sensibilities.
All that is required is complete honesty
with yourself and a willingness to act
without regard for anothers opinion(s)
and/or, without regard for any potential,
personal gain. So, don't worry if
you're going to look like a 'moran'
or be 10 minutes late or out of
pocket a few bucks, any questioning
or doubt is like challenging the
Universe to 'prove' it and that's
the last thing the Universe or Truth
has on it's mind! It IS and it has
a very uncanny way of 'balancing the
books', often from the most unexpected
of sources when you least expect it.
You're very capable of acting on these
impressions ~ it's your tendency to
question it which negates the
opportunity to prove to the Universe
you're 'savvy' with it's 'machinations'.

A wiser man than I once asked me:

"Do you know the First Law of the Universe?"

"Cause and effect?", I replied.

"The First Law Works thus..." He waited
a moment, ensuring my ears weren't just
painted on then said, "If you Want Some Thing,
You must First Give it to Another."

When you practice this with 'things' like...

Respect
Love
Attention
Time

and they're given,
without Attachment,
or Expectation,
you've invoked
the Universe
into responsding.

These 'exercizes' are great for helping
to loosen up around children too. They're
naturals at 'going with the flow' as they
haven't been trained to question their
intuitive feelings.

Thanks for the detailed feedback, Thoth,
and your willingness to participate in
my astrological 'homework', much
appreciated!



Last Edited by PhellowEarthling on 11/12/2011 06:36 PM

Thank you for the feedback
and the opportunity AC!

If you see anything else I'm
'off' with, feel free to let
me know.

That's the home run I was hoping for. Oh so right on so many levels.

I'll get back to this cuz I been "partying" so I'm just gonna lighthead surf around a bit and see what's out there tonight.

Get back to you in the morning in more detail.

I'll leave you with this observation about what you said and how I see it applies to me. My mother has this wall hanging that says "If you want to be loved, then love".

I've always been drawn to that, always wanted that and nothing else personal from her when she passes. It IS her. I don't think she even thinks about BEING that, she just is that and it's like, IDK...something she doesn't even think about as it comes so naturally, so no reason to post it for her to see...it's there for me.

It has to be, because all the times she has given me advice and talked and talked to me steering me to safety, she has never once said this. It just hangs there. A bit odd, it's uncommon for us to not discuss what matters to us.

Thank you so much. Sweet dreams.

Your mother and my father
probably would have gotten
on like a house on fire!

AC877480

3 Earth, 3 Air, 3 Fire, 1 Water
Either Aries or Taurus Rising
Capricornian Midheaven

I'm not going to place much
import to the Asc and houses
although I'm pretty certain the
MID is fairly accurate. I've used
Istanbul as the location.

Interestingly all the planets
are within 1/3 of the sky at
your time of birth, indicating
a particular focus this time.
The Moon was New too!

You're quite the initiator,
aren't you? You like to
methodically follow through
too so you're not scared of
ambitious undertakings and have
the drive and usually the stamina,
to hold your 'course and speed'
for sustained periods.

You have a thoughtful mind and a
sensitive 'tongue', although you
may sometimes struggle with
verbalizing or revealing your
deeper feelings/intuitions.
You may occasionally catch yourself
thinking so much about what you
want to say next that you didn't
hear a word the other person was
saying! May be a tendency to dwell
on the past sometimes and get bogged
down in 'conventional' trains of
thought. You like to conciously think
things through before acting or
speaking, so others may sometimes
think you're a bit reticent or aloof?
You're especially cautious about
situations where you've been 'burned'
in the past.

With a wide circle of Bohemian
friends, you're always in demand.
You're quite happy to adopt a
leadership/organizational role
with group activities and your
peers respect your relentless
drive and enthusiasm. It's like
you find energy from a vaccuum ~
you create the vaccuum because
you've used it all and then,
woosh! the Universe tops up your
'tank' again! Be careful not to
over-overdo thing's! Taking time
out for oneself occasionally is
important for all earthlings!

You're far-sighted and have
an active imagination. You've
a intuitively flair for making
practical use of almost anything,
and can detect some very subtle
'signals' in your social surrounds.
While you really enjoy working
as part of a team for some common
goal, you may sometimes struggle
with 'authority'. Maybe thing's are
better when you're the boss?
Regardless, you've a very diligent,
efficient (you hate wasted efforts)
and precise approach to your
undertakings, which, if acknowledged
early on, will strengthen your efforts
and willingness to go the extra
mile for an employer or client.

Highly idealistic you have noble
intentions about life but don't
always live up to them. You really
value your independance and right to
learn your lessons your way! There may
have been clashes with siblings and
peers in earlier years. Were your
parents quite strict? There's a fairly
serious side to you and at times
you're quite self-critical.

An unconventional lover, you're
also a lover of the unconventional!
You like to travel and see for your
self how other cultures work. You
have a hunger for new experiences
and an insatiable curiosity when
stimulated intellectually. You're
drawn to things of a spiritual
nature and like to keep an eye on
those broad horizons ahead of you
as you've an inherent optimism
that beyond there, there's even more
glorious things waiting to reveal
themselves to you! Your other eye's
just spotted a loose thread on the
sleeve of your new blouse and you're
making a mental note to fix that,
ASAP!



Last Edited by PhellowEarthling on 11/12/2011 10:07 PM