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The problem of the personality and the individuality is one that lasts all our life... not only this lifetime but all our earthly incarnations. We often beleive we are being inspired from above when it is really only the personality trying to lure us into trouble. The individuality does its best to warn us of the consequences of listening to the personality, the inevitable consequences, but we prefer not to hear. That is the reason we should learn to observe ourselves all the time, ceaselessly inspecting each idea, each desire and impulse that occurs to us in order to determine their nature and the nature of the consequences entailed. Unfortunately most people prefer to let themselves go along with the personality instead of avoiding its advice, with the result that sooner or later they suffer, sooner or later they are faced with remorse and disillusionment. If you could see into people's hearts and hear their confessions, as I do, you would be appalled. I often am. The things I hear make me realize how ignorant most human beings are concerning their two natures and the respective manifestations of each.

A man thinks for instance, that he is the one to benefit when he satisfies his lower desires, but it is not so. It is other entities, whichever ones he has chosen to work for who benefit, but he does not see this until later, too late, when he has lost all his joy, his strength, his inspiration. The time comes when he realizes that he has spent his whole life working not for himself but for the personality and its friends, myriad invisible entities that surroung him without his knowing it, feeding on him as he gratifies their wishes. Then also comes the realization that he has left the immortal part of his being, his higher Self, to starve to death. Many entities feast on humans, too many to describe here. We have inherited them along with other things from the past and we drag them around with us as generations have done before us. If we could only see these entities, we would stop letting them take advantage of us and start working for beneficient creatures, the ones who would, on the contrary, increase our wealth and power, our real heritage.

Anyone who learns to observe himself discovers that after giving in to his desires, he feels robbed of all strength, lucidity, peace of mind... proving that others, not we, are the ones to benefit from our lower actions. If we were clairvoyant we would see millions and millions of entities who use us as they will, robbing us of our energy. I met a writer once who had an exaggerated idea of his importance as a result of having had a novel published, and I touched on this question of man and his two natures, divine and animal. When he heard me say that creatures in the invisible world treat humans the way humans have always treated animals, he became highly indigant; “What nonsense!” he cried, “I don't beleive a word of it”. I stared at him thinking that for a writer of note he was not terribly perspicacious, for what I had said was true. Men consider it perfectly normal to make slaves of animals, to skin them and sell their furs, kill them and sell their meat, without asking the animal's opinion! If they did, animals would have a lot to say on the subject of human cruelty and injustice. Is it then so incredible for other creatures to treat us the same way? Is it not logical? We are thrown a scrap to eat, we are used to labour in the fields, and in the end we are cut up into ham and sausages for supper! If we could see into the invisible world we would realize that all the nations, peoples and tribes of the world's history are represented, some of whom have little or no regard for humans and use them as we use animals... they drive them too hard, they sell them and skin them and kill them and devour them. This will one day be a recognized fact... in the meanwhile you have the privilege of being the first to know.

Now do you see how important it is to observe yourself, to analyze your thoughts, desires, hopes and plans for the future, inspecting them as a jeweller sorts out the gems tha are flawless from those of no value? When it comes to things like food, clothing, objets d'art, fruit or plants or flowers, men know a great deal about the different degrees of quality, and they admire qualities in people and things which are superior, they make a point of distinguishing between superior and inferior. It is not that some people prefer poverty to wealth, ugly women to pretty ones, rags to finery, no, what I am saying is that the Initiates base their knowledge on observation and they all agree that superior degrees, higher worlds exist, and that there is no limit to good, to excellence, we can always go higher. You cannot say about someone's intelligence, “Ah, he has reached the height of intelligence, he is wisest”, for there is no limit to wisdom or beauty, or goodness, or love. They are limitless and can be increased, augmented and perfected all the way to Infinity.

What about the opposite, things such as illness, misery, ugliness? Are inferior things also limitless and capable of expanding all the way to Infinity? No, there is a limit to evil, proven in physics by the fact that heat rises from 0 degrees celsius, to infinity, whereas cold cannot go lower than 273 degrees celsius below. The frozen particles block each other and pile up; when movement stops, the limit has been reached. Heat does the contrary, it dilates and expands the body, stirs the particles into movement and pushes back the limits of space. Space is infinite, it cannot be limited. We beleive ourselves limited because we have never tried to go beyond our own experience, we think we are limited in space but we are wrong: above there is no limit.

That is what led me to the conclusion that evil is limited in both time and space. God did not intend evil to endure. He did not endow it with lasting power as He did good: the power of good is unlimited. That is the difference between good and evil, the only real difference. People beleive them to be equally strong but they are not. The forces of Hell are not equal to the forces of Heaven. Therefore, in electing to go toward the positive pole, you enter into the realm of unlimited time and space, Infinity and Eternity, God Himself.

Morally therefore, we could say that those who choose the downward path, the personality and its weaknesses, disorder and chaos, are in fact choosing death and destruction. Little by little they are forced to disappear, they die because they are too tightly jammed together where there is no room: at the bottom of the inverted cone... where they can neither move nor breathe. The way of individuality, the ascending path, gives them more and more freedom as they climb into the vast regions of space. All truly intelligent people choose that path, in order to avoid colliding with others and creating situations in which they are wounded and wound others. The alternative is to climb high into unlimited space and... freedom. The path leading downward limits one more and more until there is no alternative to destroying one another in the fight for space which is so vital.

If you try living for a day or two in complete chaos, you will see that one by one all your luminous, positive and beneficient forces leave you, while other, negative presences take their place: you find yourself in the dark, weighed down, uninspired and rigid. When you feel that way, you can be sure (it is a warning) that the space around you is shrinking.

You know what it is like to be caught in a crowd in the street, the theatre, the underground, you feel trapped, afraid of suffocating to death... and when at last you emerge onto the street, you heave a sigh of relief at being able to breathe freely again. Well, the same thing happens in the spiritual world. It is strange that these experiences are common to all of us yet we never seem to learn from them, nor act upon them. If you have a feeling you are trapped, pushed in a corner, you must say to yourself immediatly, “Oh! I must have taken a wrong turning, I have lost my way! Now I will do everything to get back on the right path...” We all become lost now and then for a few hours... or days, or years... yes, everyone. But how many realize that this language can be interpreted and interpreted correctly? The language itself is clear but you there has been no one to explain it to you, parents and professors do not give instruction of that kind. In the Teaching of the Great Universal White Brotherhood, you are shown the Truth in order to help you to create your future, the future you have decided upon. Analyze yourself: how often do you feel (not by chance) that, although you may not be trapped in a crowd physically, you may be in your own room at the time, and yet you are assailed by some unknown force that tourments you, something dark and strange that tries to crush you and rob you of your strength. It is because you have let yourself slide downward, backward, and now you must get back on the right track.

If we are so ignorant as to be deaf to all warnings, if we are blind to our situation, it will get worse: as in quicksand, the more we try to extricate ourselves by struggling the more firmly we become embedded: our feet find no firm ground. Do you find yourself in a swamp infested with mosquitos and hornets and other tormentors? How can you expect them not to sting and bit, you are on their territory! You shouldn't be in those regions anyway, why did you wander so far afield? Those creatures have every right to resent your presence, it is their kingdom and they belong there, whereas you do not. You have taken a wrong turning. Now you must get back on the right path by obeying the laws of Nature and then the things that torment you, your difficulties and disillusionment, will vanish... or at least become insignificant enough to be handled with ease.

So many more things to say on the subject of the personality, but the most important of all is to remember that the personality is closely linked to the creatures of the underground. Although other creatures exist in those regions also who are devoted workers, devas, most inhabitants of the lower world are not very far along in their evolution, still in the dark, still egoistical and obediant to personality. Whoever listens to the advice of the personality is vulnerale to the pernicious influence of these creatures, and in time becomes bound and limited... in chains.

I would like to add at this point that it is not necessary to get rid of the personality completely, to annihilate it... no, that is not the way to be free of it. The personality is there for an important reason: it provides the matter we must have to do the task we are called upon to perform, here on earth. Like a rich old granny who holds the puse strings, the personality has a store of treasures, a fortune in the bank, but it cannot be trusted as far as it is concerned, it is too short-sighted, too self-centered, too selfish... but if you put it to work at what it does well, then it will accomplish wonders for you, as no one else can. It holds the key to the safe, to the larder, the cupboards, and you must not kill it! It will be useful to you if you make it listen to you, if you control it, rathen than the contrary. People think they are masters of themselves when actually it is the personality which is in control of them! I see that situation so often that I have made a study of it at first hand... where do you think I learn these things I talk to you about if not by analyzing myself, oberving myself? I notice the smallest details. It is not essential actually to experience things, to run the risk of losing oneself in order to study the effect of certain experiences. Why do people rush to investigate all that is dangerous, negative, corrupt and immoral, instead of examinating them from a distance without becoming involved and damaging themselves? You needn't be a victim to understand something and draw conclusions! People, especially young people, insist on experimenting everything to the very bottom, the depths, not once but a hundred times, totally oblivious of the fact that they are exhausting their ressources and will have nothing left when they are called upon to undergo higher experiences. If you think you can decide to turn to the light and learn about the luminous celestial spheres and taste the splendours of spiritual life after wallowing in filth all your life, you are mistaken. If you have used all your ressources you will not have the slightest chance of rising above the conditions you yourself have created.

Once you have wasted all your energies on experiments in the lower world you cannot expect to be allowed to have divine experiences in the higher world. To think you are free to do as you like once you are morally bankrupt, shows how little you know of the Science of Life. Without the essential purity and freshness, energy and suppleness and intensity, you cannot open the door to Heaven. You think that even when you are dirty and corrupt Heaven will open its doors to you? How ignorant are you! No one ever has, only those few who barely skimmed throught the lower world, refusing to sink into the mire, and who climbed back up as soon as they could to make amends for their mistakes and re-establish the vital current between them and the divine world, are able to have divine experiences. If what you want is the lower kind of experiences, then I say, “Go ahead! But I will be curious to see the results, what you will do afterwards.” Nothing, that is all that will be left for you, it will be all over as far as you are concerned.

Good cannot be limited, good is limitless, which is why I think one of the best definitions of God is, “Wherever there are no limits, where Infinity and Eternity and Immortality exist, that is where God is.” Nothing that is limited by time and space is God, nor can it represent Him. Like heat, good has no limit to how far it can rise, millions and millions of degrees, who knows how far. Last year at the World Fair in Montreal I saw the most extraordinary instrument in the Russian Pavilion designed to heat chemical and organic matter (and also plasma) to many millions of degrees.

If scientists had a correct vision of things they would see that Nature long ago established a scale of values with higher and lower qualities, which proves that there are two possible directions for all things to go in, one which is limitless and goes on all the way to Infinity and another which is evil and is limited. If you have never come to any conclusion concerning heat and cold it is because you do not know how to read Nature's Book, you don't understand her language.

Everything in the world below is a reflection of something in the world above. If you reason properly... yes, but your brain cannot reason properly, it is warped and destroyed by what you have learned, the habits you have aquired and inherited from your family, from the world, from the education you were given. It is the same for me, except that I have been working for a long time to get rid of all the old distorded ways and, if you do the same and drop old ways in favour of new ones, you will then see things as I do and make the same discoveries. You cannot deny the truth of these things I reveal to you every day, for they have existed since the beginning of time. People do not realize they exist because they are deformed by present-day culture. We must, therefore, either become detached from it or else resign ourselves to going through an entire lifetime without making any discoveries at all. As for me, I swim in the great truths I have discovered and which I cannot yet reveal to you, for until you have detached yourself from all the false concepts youn inherited you will be able neither to understand nor accept them.

Imagine if you will a piece of paper on which there are two drawings, one sketched in red ink and one in green ink. You are handed a pair of glasses with which to examine them. If the glasses are red, you will not be able to perceive the red drawing, because red on red does not show up... and you will see only the green drawing which may be quite ordinary, even ugly. Now someone hands you spectacles that are green, and you are able to perceive the red drawing... whereupon you cry, ”Well, but that is not the way it's always been... I am not used to this!” It has always been “that way”, but the spectacles you were given to wear kept you from seeing the reality. For instance, when you look at Nature, the stars, trees, mountains and so on, what you see is an outline, is it not? Well, there is another outline behind the one you see. The spectacles I am offering you will permit you to see the second outline and more besides. What if you think you will no longer see the outline you are used to... so much the better, you have seen enough of that one. Nature has drawn two outlines, and it is up to you to find the hidden one. (actually there are many more then two, but let us say two for the sake of clarity).

Is this clear? Once you know there are two directions within you, you will try to avoid taking the path that leads downward, for it ends in a cul-de-sac, a dead-end, comparable to absolute zero (which in fact has never been attained) where all the molecules become completely immobilized. But if you follow the upward path you will have access to the Infinite – and what treasures you will find along the whole length of that path!

For the most part men live in slow motion: they make sure they have a source of livelihood, they start a family, and that is enough for them, they sit back, contended. But it is very little! When someone disturbs their complacency with new ideas (such as these), all they find to say is, “This fellow is a real nuisance! We are fine as we are, let him mind his own business!” Yes, men are accustomed to their way of life and have been for centuries... and I come along to bother them, stirring them up and trying to inculcate new ideas into their lives, hoping to make them a little discontended with what they have! No wonder they object, no wonder they are dismayed, even the brothers and sisters don't like to be hastled and disturbed! I cannot help it. This is my mission, given to me to carry out no matter what, whether it pleases people or not. My purpose, my duty is not to leave you alone! And what you complain about so bitterly makes the divine world rejoice, they applaud when they see my efforts! I understand that you do not appreciate my methods, but nevertheless the world above finds them salutary as fair as your evolution is concerned.


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Right now, God allows evil to appear more powerful in order to let people choose between power & ego, or love & service to others. If good was portrayed as "powerful", people would choose it based just on their attraction to power. So that is how it works here, don't ever give up on the power of righteousness because it has always planned to reveal itself and win in the end. hf God is in control.
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Everything evil is associated with death.
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You cannot have good without evil. As soon as one defines something as "good", you have by default, also created the concept of "evil". They go hand in hand.

This is why all of the greatest sages of the past have tried to teach those of us trapped in "separation" or duality, also known as Yin and Yang to forget about these opposite concepts to find peace...

When we judge these opposites as good or evil, we create suffering...

"Liberation is far beyond all notions of good and evil, beyond all the pairs of opposites ... They are figments of the imagination and not worth your consideration. Profit and loss, right and wrong, coarse and fine. Let them all go ... If you do not make judgments, everything will be exactly as it is supposed to be." —Hsin-hsin Ming

In a world of duality, everything begins as a birth (interpreted by those trapped in separation as "goodness") and ends in a death (i.e., "evil")

This cyclical nature of yin and yang, the opposing forces of change in the universe, mean several things. First, that all phenomena change into their opposites in an eternal cycle of reversal.

Second, since the one principle produces the other, all phenomena have within them the seeds of their opposite state, that is, sickness has the seeds of health, health contains the seeds of sickness, wealth contains the seeds of poverty, etc.
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"To every thing there is a season, and a time to every purpose under the heaven."
"A time to love, and a time to hate; a time of war, and a time of peace."
—Ecclesiastes 3: 1-8

But, as the real Jesus taught:

"Light and darkness, life and death, right and left — are brothers of one another; they are inseparable. Because of this, among them — the good are not good, the bad are not bad, and their life is not life, and their death is not death." —Gospel of Philip (10)
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Also - be aware that these are the End Times. As such, evil will reign for those of us still believing in the concepts of "good and evil".

We began in the Golden Age, then came the Silver Age, then the Bronze Age and now we're reaching the death throes of the Iron Age, also known as the Kali Yuga.

The Iron Age is a 5,000 year + time of suffering. A time of war, death and destruction, but fear not, it is almost over.
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The problem of the personality and the individuality is one that lasts all our life... not only this lifetime but all our earthly incarnations. We often beleive we are being inspired from above when it is really only the personality trying to lure us into trouble. The individuality does its best to warn us of the consequences of listening to the personality, the inevitable consequences, but we prefer not to hear. That is the reason we should learn to observe ourselves all the time, ceaselessly inspecting each idea, each desire and impulse that occurs to us in order to determine their nature and the nature of the consequences entailed. Unfortunately most people prefer to let themselves go along with the personality instead of avoiding its advice, with the result that sooner or later they suffer, sooner or later they are faced with remorse and disillusionment. If you could see into people's hearts and hear their confessions, as I do, you would be appalled. I often am. The things I hear make me realize how ignorant most human beings are concerning their two natures and the respective manifestations of each.

A man thinks for instance, that he is the one to benefit when he satisfies his lower desires, but it is not so. It is other entities, whichever ones he has chosen to work for who benefit, but he does not see this until later, too late, when he has lost all his joy, his strength, his inspiration. The time comes when he realizes that he has spent his whole life working not for himself but for the personality and its friends, myriad invisible entities that surroung him without his knowing it, feeding on him as he gratifies their wishes. Then also comes the realization that he has left the immortal part of his being, his higher Self, to starve to death. Many entities feast on humans, too many to describe here. We have inherited them along with other things from the past and we drag them around with us as generations have done before us. If we could only see these entities, we would stop letting them take advantage of us and start working for beneficient creatures, the ones who would, on the contrary, increase our wealth and power, our real heritage.

Anyone who learns to observe himself discovers that after giving in to his desires, he feels robbed of all strength, lucidity, peace of mind... proving that others, not we, are the ones to benefit from our lower actions. If we were clairvoyant we would see millions and millions of entities who use us as they will, robbing us of our energy. I met a writer once who had an exaggerated idea of his importance as a result of having had a novel published, and I touched on this question of man and his two natures, divine and animal. When he heard me say that creatures in the invisible world treat humans the way humans have always treated animals, he became highly indigant; “What nonsense!” he cried, “I don't beleive a word of it”. I stared at him thinking that for a writer of note he was not terribly perspicacious, for what I had said was true. Men consider it perfectly normal to make slaves of animals, to skin them and sell their furs, kill them and sell their meat, without asking the animal's opinion! If they did, animals would have a lot to say on the subject of human cruelty and injustice. Is it then so incredible for other creatures to treat us the same way? Is it not logical? We are thrown a scrap to eat, we are used to labour in the fields, and in the end we are cut up into ham and sausages for supper! If we could see into the invisible world we would realize that all the nations, peoples and tribes of the world's history are represented, some of whom have little or no regard for humans and use them as we use animals... they drive them too hard, they sell them and skin them and kill them and devour them. This will one day be a recognized fact... in the meanwhile you have the privilege of being the first to know.

Now do you see how important it is to observe yourself, to analyze your thoughts, desires, hopes and plans for the future, inspecting them as a jeweller sorts out the gems tha are flawless from those of no value? When it comes to things like food, clothing, objets d'art, fruit or plants or flowers, men know a great deal about the different degrees of quality, and they admire qualities in people and things which are superior, they make a point of distinguishing between superior and inferior. It is not that some people prefer poverty to wealth, ugly women to pretty ones, rags to finery, no, what I am saying is that the Initiates base their knowledge on observation and they all agree that superior degrees, higher worlds exist, and that there is no limit to good, to excellence, we can always go higher. You cannot say about someone's intelligence, “Ah, he has reached the height of intelligence, he is wisest”, for there is no limit to wisdom or beauty, or goodness, or love. They are limitless and can be increased, augmented and perfected all the way to Infinity.

What about the opposite, things such as illness, misery, ugliness? Are inferior things also limitless and capable of expanding all the way to Infinity? No, there is a limit to evil, proven in physics by the fact that heat rises from 0 degrees celsius, to infinity, whereas cold cannot go lower than 273 degrees celsius below. The frozen particles block each other and pile up; when movement stops, the limit has been reached. Heat does the contrary, it dilates and expands the body, stirs the particles into movement and pushes back the limits of space. Space is infinite, it cannot be limited. We beleive ourselves limited because we have never tried to go beyond our own experience, we think we are limited in space but we are wrong: above there is no limit.

That is what led me to the conclusion that evil is limited in both time and space. God did not intend evil to endure. He did not endow it with lasting power as He did good: the power of good is unlimited. That is the difference between good and evil, the only real difference. People beleive them to be equally strong but they are not. The forces of Hell are not equal to the forces of Heaven. Therefore, in electing to go toward the positive pole, you enter into the realm of unlimited time and space, Infinity and Eternity, God Himself.

Morally therefore, we could say that those who choose the downward path, the personality and its weaknesses, disorder and chaos, are in fact choosing death and destruction. Little by little they are forced to disappear, they die because they are too tightly jammed together where there is no room: at the bottom of the inverted cone... where they can neither move nor breathe. The way of individuality, the ascending path, gives them more and more freedom as they climb into the vast regions of space. All truly intelligent people choose that path, in order to avoid colliding with others and creating situations in which they are wounded and wound others. The alternative is to climb high into unlimited space and... freedom. The path leading downward limits one more and more until there is no alternative to destroying one another in the fight for space which is so vital.

If you try living for a day or two in complete chaos, you will see that one by one all your luminous, positive and beneficient forces leave you, while other, negative presences take their place: you find yourself in the dark, weighed down, uninspired and rigid. When you feel that way, you can be sure (it is a warning) that the space around you is shrinking.

You know what it is like to be caught in a crowd in the street, the theatre, the underground, you feel trapped, afraid of suffocating to death... and when at last you emerge onto the street, you heave a sigh of relief at being able to breathe freely again. Well, the same thing happens in the spiritual world. It is strange that these experiences are common to all of us yet we never seem to learn from them, nor act upon them. If you have a feeling you are trapped, pushed in a corner, you must say to yourself immediatly, “Oh! I must have taken a wrong turning, I have lost my way! Now I will do everything to get back on the right path...” We all become lost now and then for a few hours... or days, or years... yes, everyone. But how many realize that this language can be interpreted and interpreted correctly? The language itself is clear but you there has been no one to explain it to you, parents and professors do not give instruction of that kind. In the Teaching of the Great Universal White Brotherhood, you are shown the Truth in order to help you to create your future, the future you have decided upon. Analyze yourself: how often do you feel (not by chance) that, although you may not be trapped in a crowd physically, you may be in your own room at the time, and yet you are assailed by some unknown force that tourments you, something dark and strange that tries to crush you and rob you of your strength. It is because you have let yourself slide downward, backward, and now you must get back on the right track.

If we are so ignorant as to be deaf to all warnings, if we are blind to our situation, it will get worse: as in quicksand, the more we try to extricate ourselves by struggling the more firmly we become embedded: our feet find no firm ground. Do you find yourself in a swamp infested with mosquitos and hornets and other tormentors? How can you expect them not to sting and bit, you are on their territory! You shouldn't be in those regions anyway, why did you wander so far afield? Those creatures have every right to resent your presence, it is their kingdom and they belong there, whereas you do not. You have taken a wrong turning. Now you must get back on the right path by obeying the laws of Nature and then the things that torment you, your difficulties and disillusionment, will vanish... or at least become insignificant enough to be handled with ease.

So many more things to say on the subject of the personality, but the most important of all is to remember that the personality is closely linked to the creatures of the underground. Although other creatures exist in those regions also who are devoted workers, devas, most inhabitants of the lower world are not very far along in their evolution, still in the dark, still egoistical and obediant to personality. Whoever listens to the advice of the personality is vulnerale to the pernicious influence of these creatures, and in time becomes bound and limited... in chains.

I would like to add at this point that it is not necessary to get rid of the personality completely, to annihilate it... no, that is not the way to be free of it. The personality is there for an important reason: it provides the matter we must have to do the task we are called upon to perform, here on earth. Like a rich old granny who holds the puse strings, the personality has a store of treasures, a fortune in the bank, but it cannot be trusted as far as it is concerned, it is too short-sighted, too self-centered, too selfish... but if you put it to work at what it does well, then it will accomplish wonders for you, as no one else can. It holds the key to the safe, to the larder, the cupboards, and you must not kill it! It will be useful to you if you make it listen to you, if you control it, rathen than the contrary. People think they are masters of themselves when actually it is the personality which is in control of them! I see that situation so often that I have made a study of it at first hand... where do you think I learn these things I talk to you about if not by analyzing myself, oberving myself? I notice the smallest details. It is not essential actually to experience things, to run the risk of losing oneself in order to study the effect of certain experiences. Why do people rush to investigate all that is dangerous, negative, corrupt and immoral, instead of examinating them from a distance without becoming involved and damaging themselves? You needn't be a victim to understand something and draw conclusions! People, especially young people, insist on experimenting everything to the very bottom, the depths, not once but a hundred times, totally oblivious of the fact that they are exhausting their ressources and will have nothing left when they are called upon to undergo higher experiences. If you think you can decide to turn to the light and learn about the luminous celestial spheres and taste the splendours of spiritual life after wallowing in filth all your life, you are mistaken. If you have used all your ressources you will not have the slightest chance of rising above the conditions you yourself have created.

Once you have wasted all your energies on experiments in the lower world you cannot expect to be allowed to have divine experiences in the higher world. To think you are free to do as you like once you are morally bankrupt, shows how little you know of the Science of Life. Without the essential purity and freshness, energy and suppleness and intensity, you cannot open the door to Heaven. You think that even when you are dirty and corrupt Heaven will open its doors to you? How ignorant are you! No one ever has, only those few who barely skimmed throught the lower world, refusing to sink into the mire, and who climbed back up as soon as they could to make amends for their mistakes and re-establish the vital current between them and the divine world, are able to have divine experiences. If what you want is the lower kind of experiences, then I say, “Go ahead! But I will be curious to see the results, what you will do afterwards.” Nothing, that is all that will be left for you, it will be all over as far as you are concerned.

Good cannot be limited, good is limitless, which is why I think one of the best definitions of God is, “Wherever there are no limits, where Infinity and Eternity and Immortality exist, that is where God is.” Nothing that is limited by time and space is God, nor can it represent Him. Like heat, good has no limit to how far it can rise, millions and millions of degrees, who knows how far. Last year at the World Fair in Montreal I saw the most extraordinary instrument in the Russian Pavilion designed to heat chemical and organic matter (and also plasma) to many millions of degrees.

If scientists had a correct vision of things they would see that Nature long ago established a scale of values with higher and lower qualities, which proves that there are two possible directions for all things to go in, one which is limitless and goes on all the way to Infinity and another which is evil and is limited. If you have never come to any conclusion concerning heat and cold it is because you do not know how to read Nature's Book, you don't understand her language.

Everything in the world below is a reflection of something in the world above. If you reason properly... yes, but your brain cannot reason properly, it is warped and destroyed by what you have learned, the habits you have aquired and inherited from your family, from the world, from the education you were given. It is the same for me, except that I have been working for a long time to get rid of all the old distorded ways and, if you do the same and drop old ways in favour of new ones, you will then see things as I do and make the same discoveries. You cannot deny the truth of these things I reveal to you every day, for they have existed since the beginning of time. People do not realize they exist because they are deformed by present-day culture. We must, therefore, either become detached from it or else resign ourselves to going through an entire lifetime without making any discoveries at all. As for me, I swim in the great truths I have discovered and which I cannot yet reveal to you, for until you have detached yourself from all the false concepts youn inherited you will be able neither to understand nor accept them.

Imagine if you will a piece of paper on which there are two drawings, one sketched in red ink and one in green ink. You are handed a pair of glasses with which to examine them. If the glasses are red, you will not be able to perceive the red drawing, because red on red does not show up... and you will see only the green drawing which may be quite ordinary, even ugly. Now someone hands you spectacles that are green, and you are able to perceive the red drawing... whereupon you cry, ”Well, but that is not the way it's always been... I am not used to this!” It has always been “that way”, but the spectacles you were given to wear kept you from seeing the reality. For instance, when you look at Nature, the stars, trees, mountains and so on, what you see is an outline, is it not? Well, there is another outline behind the one you see. The spectacles I am offering you will permit you to see the second outline and more besides. What if you think you will no longer see the outline you are used to... so much the better, you have seen enough of that one. Nature has drawn two outlines, and it is up to you to find the hidden one. (actually there are many more then two, but let us say two for the sake of clarity).

Is this clear? Once you know there are two directions within you, you will try to avoid taking the path that leads downward, for it ends in a cul-de-sac, a dead-end, comparable to absolute zero (which in fact has never been attained) where all the molecules become completely immobilized. But if you follow the upward path you will have access to the Infinite – and what treasures you will find along the whole length of that path!

For the most part men live in slow motion: they make sure they have a source of livelihood, they start a family, and that is enough for them, they sit back, contended. But it is very little! When someone disturbs their complacency with new ideas (such as these), all they find to say is, “This fellow is a real nuisance! We are fine as we are, let him mind his own business!” Yes, men are accustomed to their way of life and have been for centuries... and I come along to bother them, stirring them up and trying to inculcate new ideas into their lives, hoping to make them a little discontended with what they have! No wonder they object, no wonder they are dismayed, even the brothers and sisters don't like to be hastled and disturbed! I cannot help it. This is my mission, given to me to carry out no matter what, whether it pleases people or not. My purpose, my duty is not to leave you alone! And what you complain about so bitterly makes the divine world rejoice, they applaud when they see my efforts! I understand that you do not appreciate my methods, but nevertheless the world above finds them salutary as fair as your evolution is concerned.


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Evil is limited, Good is limitless
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Also - be aware that these are the End Times. As such, evil will reign for those of us still believing in the concepts of "good and evil".

We began in the Golden Age, then came the Silver Age, then the Bronze Age and now we're reaching the death throes of the Iron Age, also known as the Kali Yuga.

The Iron Age is a 5,000 year + time of suffering. A time of war, death and destruction, but fear not, it is almost over.
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Interesting point. Can you talk more about this? What about WWIII?
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And yet evil is what drives the world around.
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Best thing I have read on GLP in a long time. Seeing a truly "aware & awake" individual is inspiring!

I have been on working on these ideas for a short period now. I have realized it is never too late. Question everything. Really, Everything!

I will work on being a better man. I am having a hard time with the last hurdle. I see what I am doing wrong, but I am having trouble exercising my demons. That statement makes me smile, because I am happier now then I have ever been. The journey has been grand!

Namaste Brother!

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Absolutely the very best post this site has ever or will ever see and read. This is TRULY the way of things. The book "The Power of Now" by Eckhart Tolle would be a good start to further ones education in this field. OP Thank you for posting something wonderful for us to ponder.NAMASTE!!
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Absolutely the very best post this site has ever or will ever see and read. This is TRULY the way of things. The book "The Power of Now" by Eckhart Tolle would be a good start to further ones education in this field. OP Thank you for posting something wonderful for us to ponder.NAMASTE!!
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Light is Limited, Dark is Limitless.


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And yet evil is what drives the world around.
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Cheese isn't evil.
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Absolutely the very best post this site has ever or will ever see and read. This is TRULY the way of things. The book "The Power of Now" by Eckhart Tolle would be a good start to further ones education in this field. OP Thank you for posting something wonderful for us to ponder.NAMASTE!!
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Same OP.
This individual is certainly in the know. This post deserves a super pin , don't you think?
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Absolutely the very best post this site has ever or will ever see and read. This is TRULY the way of things. The book "The Power of Now" by Eckhart Tolle would be a good start to further ones education in this field. OP Thank you for posting something wonderful for us to ponder.NAMASTE!!
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[link to www.godlikeproductions.com]
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Same OP.
This individual is certainly in the know. This post deserves a super pin , don't you think?
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Ofcause, the only thing that turns people of is the title, because they heard it allllll so manny times before, until they acctually read the whole lot.
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Absolutely the very best post this site has ever or will ever see and read. This is TRULY the way of things. The book "The Power of Now" by Eckhart Tolle would be a good start to further ones education in this field. OP Thank you for posting something wonderful for us to ponder.NAMASTE!!
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[link to www.godlikeproductions.com]
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Same OP.
This individual is certainly in the know. This post deserves a super pin , don't you think?
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Ofcause, the only thing that turns people of is the title, because they heard it allllll so manny times before, until they acctually read the whole lot.
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This is the kind of info that needs to be shared and shared in big way. In the scheme of things, this kind of knowledge is all that really matters. IMHO
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Here's a story about doing good. Want to hear a story? No? Well here goes.

One day three good friends were lost in the middle of a desert. After two days, they were all very thirsty. They just have enough water for one person to drink. Because all three of them are very "good" person, each of them refused to drink that water and offer it to the other person. And after two days of refusing to drink that last amount of water, the water eventually dried up and all three of them died.

Lesson to learn: Good is limitless and so is stupidity.
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Evil is limited, Good is limitless
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You cannot have good without evil. As soon as one defines something as "good", you have by default, also created the concept of "evil". They go hand in hand.

This is why all of the greatest sages of the past have tried to teach those of us trapped in "separation" or duality, also known as Yin and Yang to forget about these opposite concepts to find peace...

When we judge these opposites as good or evil, we create suffering...

"Liberation is far beyond all notions of good and evil, beyond all the pairs of opposites ... They are figments of the imagination and not worth your consideration. Profit and loss, right and wrong, coarse and fine. Let them all go ... If you do not make judgments, everything will be exactly as it is supposed to be." —Hsin-hsin Ming

In a world of duality, everything begins as a birth (interpreted by those trapped in separation as "goodness") and ends in a death (i.e., "evil")

This cyclical nature of yin and yang, the opposing forces of change in the universe, mean several things. First, that all phenomena change into their opposites in an eternal cycle of reversal.

Second, since the one principle produces the other, all phenomena have within them the seeds of their opposite state, that is, sickness has the seeds of health, health contains the seeds of sickness, wealth contains the seeds of poverty, etc.
source: [link to www.wsu.edu]

"To every thing there is a season, and a time to every purpose under the heaven."
"A time to love, and a time to hate; a time of war, and a time of peace."
—Ecclesiastes 3: 1-8

But, as the real Jesus taught:

"Light and darkness, life and death, right and left — are brothers of one another; they are inseparable. Because of this, among them — the good are not good, the bad are not bad, and their life is not life, and their death is not death." —Gospel of Philip (10)
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TRUE! OPs post is a waster of space.
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Here's a story about doing good. Want to hear a story? No? Well here goes.

One day three good friends were lost in the middle of a desert. After two days, they were all very thirsty. They just have enough water for one person to drink. Because all three of them are very "good" person, each of them refused to drink that water and offer it to the other person. And after two days of refusing to drink that last amount of water, the water eventually dried up and all three of them died.

Lesson to learn: Good is limitless and so is stupidity.
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But they weren't stupid. The little bit of water left would only prolong the agony. Noone had to die alone.
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Evil is limited, Good is limitless
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You cannot have good without evil. As soon as one defines something as "good", you have by default, also created the concept of "evil". They go hand in hand.

This is why all of the greatest sages of the past have tried to teach those of us trapped in "separation" or duality, also known as Yin and Yang to forget about these opposite concepts to find peace...

When we judge these opposites as good or evil, we create suffering...

"Liberation is far beyond all notions of good and evil, beyond all the pairs of opposites ... They are figments of the imagination and not worth your consideration. Profit and loss, right and wrong, coarse and fine. Let them all go ... If you do not make judgments, everything will be exactly as it is supposed to be." —Hsin-hsin Ming

In a world of duality, everything begins as a birth (interpreted by those trapped in separation as "goodness") and ends in a death (i.e., "evil")

This cyclical nature of yin and yang, the opposing forces of change in the universe, mean several things. First, that all phenomena change into their opposites in an eternal cycle of reversal.

Second, since the one principle produces the other, all phenomena have within them the seeds of their opposite state, that is, sickness has the seeds of health, health contains the seeds of sickness, wealth contains the seeds of poverty, etc.
source: [link to www.wsu.edu]

"To every thing there is a season, and a time to every purpose under the heaven."
"A time to love, and a time to hate; a time of war, and a time of peace."
—Ecclesiastes 3: 1-8

But, as the real Jesus taught:

"Light and darkness, life and death, right and left — are brothers of one another; they are inseparable. Because of this, among them — the good are not good, the bad are not bad, and their life is not life, and their death is not death." —Gospel of Philip (10)
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TRUE! OPs post is a waster of space.
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Maybe you have missed the point here.
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Evil is limited, Good is limitless
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You cannot have good without evil. As soon as one defines something as "good", you have by default, also created the concept of "evil". They go hand in hand.

This is why all of the greatest sages of the past have tried to teach those of us trapped in "separation" or duality, also known as Yin and Yang to forget about these opposite concepts to find peace...

When we judge these opposites as good or evil, we create suffering...

"Liberation is far beyond all notions of good and evil, beyond all the pairs of opposites ... They are figments of the imagination and not worth your consideration. Profit and loss, right and wrong, coarse and fine. Let them all go ... If you do not make judgments, everything will be exactly as it is supposed to be." —Hsin-hsin Ming

In a world of duality, everything begins as a birth (interpreted by those trapped in separation as "goodness") and ends in a death (i.e., "evil")

This cyclical nature of yin and yang, the opposing forces of change in the universe, mean several things. First, that all phenomena change into their opposites in an eternal cycle of reversal.

Second, since the one principle produces the other, all phenomena have within them the seeds of their opposite state, that is, sickness has the seeds of health, health contains the seeds of sickness, wealth contains the seeds of poverty, etc.
source: [link to www.wsu.edu]

"To every thing there is a season, and a time to every purpose under the heaven."
"A time to love, and a time to hate; a time of war, and a time of peace."
—Ecclesiastes 3: 1-8

But, as the real Jesus taught:

"Light and darkness, life and death, right and left — are brothers of one another; they are inseparable. Because of this, among them — the good are not good, the bad are not bad, and their life is not life, and their death is not death." —Gospel of Philip (10)
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TRUE! OPs post is a waster of space.
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3 sides of a coin huh
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Not so.
Here's an analogy if that helps.
In nature there is a balanced cycle of destruction and creation on all levels from the appearance of galaxies to cellular metabolism in plants.
This is balance between Yin and Yang. and an ongoing process of destruction/creation.
If I spray my garden with herbicide which kills not only "weeds" but destroys other plants and poisons the animals and people that eat the plant that is NOT a blance between Yin and Yang-in fact it's disharmonious and purely destructive.
In that sense Evil IS limited because it leads not to Good, but continued Evil/destruction.
The ONLY people who tell you that using Herbicide is Good are salesmen from Monsanto.
And people stupid or dishonest enough to buy their products.
Grasshopper.
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Evil is limited, Good is limitless
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Also - be aware that these are the End Times. As such, evil will reign for those of us still believing in the concepts of "good and evil".

We began in the Golden Age, then came the Silver Age, then the Bronze Age and now we're reaching the death throes of the Iron Age, also known as the Kali Yuga.

The Iron Age is a 5,000 year + time of suffering. A time of war, death and destruction, but fear not, it is almost over.
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Interesting point. Can you talk more about this? What about WWIII?
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Here's the thing, I did have an awakening, a genuine enlightenment nearly 6 years ago. As such, there are some things I now know, but there's much I still don't know. But the experience was profound beyond my wildest dreams.

And I did experience the state of non-duality and so I now know what the sages have said is actually true. Before the experience, I was very doubtful.

Will there be WWIII? I just don't know. But I did have some glimpses into the future and here they are:

1. There will be a global financial collapse. It's my guess (this part is not something that was "revealed" to me) that it will lead to the so-called "mark of the beast". An RFID chip in everyone who wants to buy or sell.

2. UFOs will play a role in these times. From my extensive research, UFOs and their inhabitants are multi-dimensional beings. The dimensions are beginning to merge.

1945 seems to have been a major gateway into the end times. Alain Danielou said it was the beginning of the twilight of the End Times. it was a time when the new gospels were discovered. A time when UFOs began appearing.

The most important thing to know is that we will soon experience the liberation of the mind—this was one of the strongest revelations and guaranteed to occur.

So don't worry too much about what has to happen, but seek to liberate yourself from concepts such as good and evil. When you judge something as evil (or just plain annoying perhaps) see yourself as the cause of suffering, not the person who aggravated you.

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When I was little, I would sneak a look at my dad's Playboy magazines. My friends would do the same with their dad's magazines, often sharing them with me at some kid's cabin or place in the woods or alley or some other "safe location". This we did MANY times.

Not one time did I or anyone else sneak a look at our parents bibles or other religious books. Why is that? We could all tell you more about Hugh Hefner and Larry Flynt then we could about the pope or any prophet or other religious figure. Can anybody explain why that is?
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THE POWER OF LIGHT AND DARKNESS

The 21st lecture from the Master, held on in front of the Youthful occult class on 14th of March, 1923, Sofia.

Salute: The only way of Wisdom leads to the Truth.

The truth.

Meditation.

We are read the resume of the theme “The use of the rivers, seas, oceans.”
I will give you in the future the following task: You will get two lectures from last year, you will take out resumes in writing and you will read them in class. Two disciples by wish have to be engaged with the two lectures. Meanwhile you will repeat the exercises, given in the lectures. If you find something you can not understand, we will add it here. The lectures must be studied well, applied, and they have to be able to give the necessary result. If the disciple is not ready, he cannot be used by Nature. This is especially necessary for the occult disciple. The brain of the disciple must be developed, well formed; it has to be able to come into connection with the forces of Nature, to make use of them. If he does not work for himself, he cannot use the knowledge, given in the School.

Imagine that you are travelling at night with your friend, he gives you an apple, but you cannot see it properly through the darkness - is it healthy or decayed and immediately you spit it out. Therefore what the rotten apple is for you, such things are your unclear thoughts and wishes for the Invisible world. It is enough for you to design such a thought of feeling in the Invisible world to spit it out quickly. That is the way to make use of the forces of the Nature, by the Knowledge, given to you, it is essential an absolutely purity of the hearth by your side. The one who understands what purity means will make use of it, the one who can not understand it, will have to take an exam and to experience himself the uncleanness of his hearth and to get purified. Everything, given and which requires from the occult disciples at its place, nothing is arbitrary here. Many people think that the occultism is something dangerous. On the contrary, the occult science makes sense of the Life, it gives a stimulus, impulse to Knowledge, it shows the disciple the way to the Truth, it teaches him how to use the forces energies of Nature and how to get them transformed. Figure one shows tree shames, which represent the different deeds or movements of the energies in Nature. The first shame represent the harmonized energies of the mind, hearth, will. The man in whom those energies are well balanced is distinguished by a big sensibility - before he starts setting any work or before he says something he rationalizes everything good and then begins the work. The second shame represents the young energy of a young man or a child for whom everything is shining as gold. They look at things optimistically; they think that everything is blooming. The third shame represents the energy of old. If you observe an old tree and an old man, you will notice that they resemble the old tree branches are hanging down as the energy of the old man. The old tree and old man are much more under the influence of the forces of the Earth, then under the influence of the Sun. It is said for the old tree and old man that they have lost their flexibility and quickness and that is why they are hanging down. By the understanding and ideas of the man depends if he is going to be young or old, if the energies of his body will be rising or decreasing. That is so you can see by the cases in life: you meet a young, twenty year old man in whom the physical energies are rising, but his spirituality is decreasing - he things, feels and acts as an eighty year old man. This man will speak only about death, about negatives things of life. The energies of that man are taking a direction to the Earth; they say for him that he became old prematurely. And the opposite: you meet an old man, but with eminent ideas, with a high ideal, he does not bend with age, but he walks standing upright and lively. Why? His ideas attracts him to the Sun. Therefore in Nature there exists two main kinds of energies: descending, called the energies of darkness in Life (scheme three), and ascending or energies of Light (scheme two). Shame one represents cross energies of Light and darkness. Where these energies are equal, there starts the sensible Life. In this Life there are Light and dark places, peaks and valleys, and as a consequence, shades appear. The shades are the subjects, which a man has to study.

How we can understand if a man is living in Light or darkness? If I have to answer this question, I will use the following explanation. At shame two the rising forces of Nature are represented, or the Life of the Light. The highest point of the Sun is the zenith - then the sunny rays are the strongest and they fall exactly perpendicular to the Earth. If at that time a man looks at the Sun, his eyes could not stand up to this Light, they will go straight away to screw up, they will have an elliptical form. Simultaneously, with his eyes he will screw up his eyebrows. The one who looks at him will say that this man is a very serious one. So the serious man lives in Light, in the day of Life. It is true, that if a man is born during the day, when the Sun shines brightly he has elongated eyes, not too much opened. If this person comes into a dark room, he will strain his eyes; will open them to be able to distinguish the subjects. From here, we say that everyone born at night has big opened eyes. All the people who live in darkness have opened eyes and high eyebrows. When they want to tell a person to be careful, they advice him to open his eyes on the fourth. This is a proverb in which something is missing, it is not completed enough. A man has to open his eyes on the fourth, but in the evening, when it is dark, during the day there is no way for him to open his eyes on the fourth. Therefore, this proverb is related to people, who live at night. If a man lives for long time at night, his eyes are going gradually to stand out. People, whose eyes are opened wide and stand out, are very rude. The cold, hail, snow, frost, are all due to the dark forces of Nature. The hatred, envy, malice - in general are all negative feelings and are due again to the dark forces in Nature. If someone’s eyes stand out, but are elliptical, not too much opened, this thing shows that this man is born in darkness but he has a desire to come in the Light. He understands his rudeness, but he restrains, he has an aspiration to reveal his softness. Some people are born in darkness but live in Light, working for their kindness; others are born in Light, but live in darkness, working with the rude forces of Nature.

When you know all this, try not to change your condition - to fall from the forces of Light into the forces of darkness. When you fall into the dark forces, and then start working to transform them into positive ones, into forces of the Light. This means to harmonize the forces in your body, keeping yourself away from the darkness without being afraid of it. The forces of darkness are necessary to grow - all life existences grow, they collect energy and rest in darkness too. To allow your thoughts to develop you have to move by any means between the forces of darkness and Light - the first one will form the reflection, the second will give power and movement of the thought to be realized. The dark forces are related to the white rays of Light, but the light forces are related to the white rays of Light.

Now, keep in your mind the idea that the Natural laws are not overbearing. They are sensible and strongly defined. There are laws of the necessity, but there are laws and of Freedom. Both of them and of course the others are sensible as a result of which you have to reckon with them. The task of the occult science is to show the disciples the methods of how to cope with the forces of Nature and laws. When you arrive on the Earth, you will have sufferings, probations, unhappiness with which you must deal reasonably. There is no point in being disappointed or dispirited. Discouragement does not bring anything. Be glad, that a light is given to you to understand the things and to know how to solve your own difficulties. If you did not have this Light, the difficulties could deter you. As disciples, you could reasonably liquidate with your karma. The karma of man represents a sum of the forces of darkness, which you have to destruct.

When a man deals with his karma, he will live according to the low of diharma.

What is it diharma? The diharma is the God’s blessing, for which Jesus Christ says: “Everybody will be saved by bless.” The diharma is a sum of the forces of Light, it represents the Light of Life. You are the architects of your fortune - the iron is in your hands, the fire is among you. What remains then?

Nothing else, except you to take the iron, to put it in the fire, and carefully to turn it from one side to the other, taking out something from it. What are you going to take out from the hot iron? Whatever you want - nails keys, door’s locks and ploughs and hoes. When you work with the hot iron, you have to be careful. Attention is required from you! If you are attentive and sensible, you will liquidate well with your karma and will enter in the diharma. If you are not attentive and reasonable, your karma will carry you off.

Now we are coming to an area, called the black area of amusements. If you remain more time in that area, the creatures which are living there will stop their development. They are creatures, who have not fully evolved; they are creatures without any moral, without any culture. Whom do they see, they are starting to praise, to say, that he is a hero, a talented man - they will tell him some different legends, traditions, while they knot him. When they have knitted (unclear use of words knot/knit!) him, they will leave him alone to recount. When he finds himself among them, he will get into a situation of the cock, for which is said in the legend “The cock and fox.” A cock found a piece of cheese on the ground and it took and took it up a tree - to eat it there. At this time a fox saw the cock and began to think how to take the cheese from its mouth. To carry up on the tree next to it - it cannot. Then the fox went under the tree and started to talk with the cock. “Cock, you are a pretty bird! When I look at your comb, red, fleshy, as a crown on your head, I am wondering who made you so pretty, so bonny and sprightly. I haven’t met such a pretty bird before like you. But you are and a song - bird, your voice - is a whole music. I am happy, if you could sing to me, to hear your voice.” Flattered by the words of the fox, the cock opened its mouth and crowed, the cheese feel over the ground. The fox was waiting exactly for this - it came down to the cheese, grasped it and run away.

Now I am telling you: do not yield to endearments and praise, because as the cock you will crow and you will drop the cheese from your mouth. In this case the cheese represents the conditions, necessary for your development. You may not loose the conditions, but how much you lose, after that you must wait a little bit for the same favourable conditions to come again. The favourable conditions come periodically. The occult science gives a lot of mathematical formulas, from which calculations can be done, to determine in which year, which day and hour during the day the favourable conditions will come for each separate person. These conditions will be expressed by sort of increasing energy with a determined intensity and quickness of movement. This energy will raise the man and will give him a life. This is determined and by the favourable combination of the planets. As disciples, you have to study those things, to guess inside what will come and to create the good conditions to use for good, with the bad ones - to deal reasonably. Someone comes from outside or inside you and tells you: “Do not stay at that place!” - “Why?” - “Do not stay at that place, nothing else! This place is dangerous.” - “Improve, that it is dangerous.” How could it be improved? If you do not listen you will try it. You are sitting on a stone in the middle of a dry river, playing quietly and you do not want to know about anything. But in the mountain it is raining heavily, which gradually is going down. From the slopes of the mountain big torrents are starting to come down and soon the river is rising, pouring over the surrounding area. While you run away, the water will take you away and will drag you off with its current. – “Now, do you believe at my words?” Therefore you must know, that such dangerous places exist in the occult sphere as well. There are also dry rivers, which can rise from the big torrents. When you know this you have to be obedient. When someone tells you to leave the place, where you are sitting, to stop playing and to go to a safe place, do not ask why and what for, do not even wait to be improved. Once you are in the School, you have to study the occult forces, to fight, to take predominance over them. Some of these forces are like the fox: when someone starts to praise you, you have to know that your cheese will go.

Listen to him carefully, but do not hurry to show your voice like the cock. Say: “Now I am busy, I have some work. When I finish my work, then I will sing to you.” Eat your cheese in tranquillity and then crow. Do not hurry up to crow; do not hurry up to show your voice. If you first eat your cheese and after you crow, then the works are going to be good.

Now from everybody obedience is required. Obedience is the first quality of the occult disciple. He must show obedience to the sensible laws and forces in Nature.

Obedience is a condition for the disciple to become strong. It enforces his belief in the great laws of Nature, among which God works. When you know this, everything you do, has to be in God’s name, so you can use yourself, and your relatives from His blessing. The disciple must work consciously, to achieve a perfection, to which he strives. Everybody could be perfect. It is said in the Scripture: “Be perfect, as is perfect your Father, who is in the heavens.” When you gain perfection, only then you will find out what Love, Wisdom and Truth are. If you want to become perfect, you have to obey the great law of God.

When you gain perfection, you will understand the words, put into the salutation, which I gave this evening: “Only the light way of wisdom leads to the Truth”.

Work, study is required from everybody. Study your acts and movements consciously. Study your handwriting, because to be able to find out in which forms you are expressing your energies. When some people write, they start well, but finish badly: in the beginning, their letters are big, when they get to the end, they become smaller. Such people at the beginning are strong, but at the end they are getting weak: you cannot rely on them. The letters have to be if possible more oval, but not monotonous ones. Each shape of the letter has to be equivalent to the energy of man. When there is coordination between the shape and the energies of man, he is satisfied alone from his handwriting. The handwriting has to be legible, not to be necessary to be made out. As disciples of the occult school, you must have nice handwriting. If your handwriting is not processed well, you must practice your writing everyday from ten to thirty minutes. If in your youth your handwriting is not nice, then when you get old it will remain the same. You have to know, that the handwriting reflects the character of man. Work consciously by yourself, to be good disciples.

Only the light way of the Wisdom leads to the Truth.

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Re: Evil is limited, Good is limitless
TRUE! OPs post is a waster of space.
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Not so.
Here's an analogy if that helps.
In nature there is a balanced cycle of destruction and creation on all levels from the appearance of galaxies to cellular metabolism in plants.
This is balance between Yin and Yang. and an ongoing process of destruction/creation.
If I spray my garden with herbicide which kills not only "weeds" but destroys other plants and poisons the animals and people that eat the plant that is NOT a blance between Yin and Yang-in fact it's disharmonious and purely destructive.
In that sense Evil IS limited because it leads not to Good, but continued Evil/destruction.
The ONLY people who tell you that using Herbicide is Good are salesmen from Monsanto.
And people stupid or dishonest enough to buy their products.
Grasshopper.
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Sorry - I disagree. Killing the plants is not evil.

Judging it as evil is the mistake. However here's the KEY difference: once you enter into the state of judging one thing as good and one thing as bad, you will reap what you sow.

Only those who are enlightened can kill a plant and not be "judged".

"He who acts without being able to say why, but is not thereby a fool, he is one liberated while still alive, happy and blessed. He is happy even in samsara." —Ashtavakra Gita 18.26

The upright person does whatever presents itself to be done, good or bad, for his actions are like those of a child. —Ashtavakra Gita 18.49

For the seer who behaves like a child, without desire in all actions, there is no attachment for such a pure one even in the work he does. —Ashtavakra Gita 18.64
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The Wave of Divine Love

"A new Wave is coming from out of the Cosmic Space: the Wave of Divine Love. It is also called 'the Wave of Fire'. This Wave has powerful vibrations which not every human being can endure. It has been said, for this reason, that God is an all-consuming Fire. Those who are ready to withstand the vibrations of this Wave and assimilate them will become luminous. Yet for those who cannot bear them, it will be a Fire which will either consume them or will cause them to pass through great suffering. This will prepare them to awaken and receive Love.

This Wave of Love which is coming is also called the Divine Fire. Everything old and impure will burn in it. After man passes through this Divine Fire, the Kingdom of God will come to Earth. I say: when the Fire of Love comes, some people will become luminous; but others will burn, will pass through repentance.

"Today you find yourselves in a great phase of Life. Not too much time will pass before you will find yourselves passing through the Fire. This will be in your lifetime. This Wave of Fire will soon pass over the world and purify it. All human thoughts and desires will pass through this Fire and become purified in the most perfect way. The Great Life will enter you, and you will become transformed. As the smith places the iron in the fire in order to refine it, so too, the Intelligent World will pass us through the Fire so that we can be purified and tempered.

"Those Beings which descend from above say, 'We will turn the earth on its head and will chase the evil away from it.' The evil will not attempt to come near it again.

"The great destruction which occurs today is due to this great Life which comes now. If people do not accept Christ voluntarily, the whole culture will pass through Fire seven times, but in the end, it will be purified and renewed.

"The Wave of Fire will pass through the minds of all people. You all will pass through this Divine Fire; you will free your souls and be liberated from bondage.

"If man does not awaken and arise, all the 'blankets' in which he has wrapped himself will burn. Everything which man has created will burn and turn into ashes and dust. What I am speaking of is the Coming of the Day of the Lord. I say now, 'We are in the Day of the Lord!'

"Only one-half hour remains before the last train leaves. Woe to those who have not yet managed to settle their accounts. If Europe does not correct her past mistakes, great tribulations will come her way.

"The Lord is coming, and He has already set His Foot upon the earth. I can easily prove that He has set foot upon the earth. How? The great suffering which is constantly increasing is the proof that the Lord is coming to this world. Do you know what His decision is? Everything impure is to burn. One has never before seen the dust that will be raised on earth. You have never suspected what great cleansing is coming before the Great Day. Nothing will remain of the European states and of the planning of the European diplomats. Love will destroy everything old. After that we will start to build. This turbulence among societies, this unrest among those who are in distress, indicates that God permeates everything. All this is linked to the eradication of the karma of humankind which has accumulated for thousands of years. Until all old concepts, thoughts and feelings bum in the Fire of suffering, man cannot enter into the new Life which is due to come now.

"Because for thousands of years man was under the influence of the negative forces, these forces now turn against him. Man has strayed from his right path, and all misfortunes are due to that. People have deviated from many things and for this reason, have remained behind in their development. The Invisible World wants to help them so that they may develop properly. The Invisible World is sending workers with their hammers to work on people's homes. These misfortunes are called 'the unfavorable conditions of life.' With their imprudent way of life, people let loose the evil, and as a result, tribulations come. That which man experiences, and feels hanging heavily over him, is his karma. This is a debt which is due to be paid. In Matthew Chapter 24, the woman who was 'taken' has paid her karma, she is free of any debt. On the other hand, the woman who was 'left' has not yet eliminated her karma. And so, the present events indicate the paying off of an old debt: the eradication of karma. An acceleration in the eradication of the past error of humankind is taking place at present - everything that has accumulated is being eradicated.

"In the fall, all old leaves fall whether they want to or not. Only new buds which will produce new branches in the coming spring - only new leaves and flowers - remain on the trees. The beauty of life is in the changes. After a storm, the weather clears. The present events are like a storm: they will pass. Everything that occurs is for the better. We think that the present order is good, but God is weary of the transgressions which people commit.

"The karma of the European nations is already ripe and creates tribulations for the whole of humankind. The tribulations indicate that man must change his way of life and apply the Divine Teaching. The jewish people did not accept the Teachings of Christ, and tribulations came upon them. The Christian nations did not apply Christ's Teaching, and the present tribulations came. The present troubles come because man did not accept voluntarily and with an awakened consciousness to fulfill the Will of God. Even greater disturbances - external as well as internal -will come in order for man to awaken and fulfill the Will of God. to serve God. This will be forced upon humankind.

"Modern culture is in its departure. The new culture is coming, and its application in life will begin. The Invisible World has decided to teach modem civilized people a lesson which they will remember for a thousand years. The Scripture says, 'The Wrath of God will come upon the sons of disobedience.' In other words, the Potter will break up the imperfect pots."

On another occasion, the Master said:

"The whole earth at present is undergoing a great change, a reconstruction. This will continue until its forces become balanced. The earth will undergo disturbances. There exist ways to predict in which region of the planet the greatest turbulence will occur.

"All of Europe, the entire earth is in turmoil. The entire world is in disarray. Be not afraid. In such times of trouble, people will come to know God: will come to understand that He is that Great Intelligent Power which turns all things to good. You must remain calm and peaceful and know that the times in which you live are most favorable.

"All of Europe will pass through unimaginable trials. Modern Europeans have built a dam on the river which one day will collapse. Therefore, whoever is above the town should search for refuge in the mountain, and whoever is at the low level must run for higher ground. I speak symbolically.

"People ask what will become of them in the future. Imagine that you live on the North Pole where everything is ice. Your homes are made of ice: nowhere can you see water. I say to you that you need to take some precautionary measures because the earth will undergo great changes. The sun will start to shine very hot. It will melt the ice: the homes will fall apart, and you will start to sink. You say, 'What bad fortune has come to us.' This is not bad fortune - simply the ice melts. The same I say to you now: if you do not correct your life, the same will happen to you. I do not say this to frighten you. It is the natural course of life. The Great Wave which comes now breaks up the ice and turns it into water. This is the Great Intelligent Wave that already draws near to the world.

"After these events, human egotism will vanish and people will begin to live freely and as brothers. The time has come for all people to abandon the old way of life.

"The God of whom I speak to you will shake the earth. Only then will you come to understand whether or not I have been speaking the truth. The Scripture says that God will shake the earth and that every living creature will realize that Justice, Truth, Virtue, Love and Wisdom exist. All people throughout the world must know that God is present in the world - and people will come to know this.

"You say, 'We are not prepared yet.' When will you be ready? You say, 'The time has not come yet.' Who told you that the time has not come yet? If you do not follow the Divine, the earth will begin to shake.

"After the earth shakes, after all your guns and cannons are destroyed, you will be asked, 'Will you obey?' You will say, 'Yes, we will obey.' When you observe all these things, you will become wiser. The entire earth will shake with such power that no trace will remain of the present culture. This will take place as based upon the great natural laws. Not one nation in Europe will remain unpunished: the present order and all human lies will vanish.

"Christ has said, 'The sun will darken, the moon will wane, and the stars will fall.' Interpreted, this means that all false human religious beliefs will lose their meaning, all worldly power will be overshadowed, will lose its hold. Therefore the disciples should work to improve themselves: clothe themselves in armor and don helmets in order to withstand this Wave of suffering and trials which man must endure. This armor is Love.

"Many people can learn from their own mistakes. If one tries to speak to them, they will not comprehend. Such people will learn on the path of suffering. The turbulent flow which represents the tribulations and conflicts of humankind wilt abate by the end of the century. Naturally, the human souls who are more developed will be freed from this flood sooner. The nations are healed through suffering. It is impossible to heal a nation without suffering. It is the only medicine.

"What needs to be corrected will be corrected. What needs to be destroyed will be destroyed. Take advantage of the short time which remains. Now is the time to begin living in harmony with the new Life. The evil has exhausted all the conditions for its existence. It can no longer succeed, and it is retreating - only its dregs have remained. The Light will drive away all the darkness. Owing to the present tribulations, man will awaken. Unless the pure is sifted from the impure, the life of man will be meaningless.

"After these events, the new will immediately gain control of the world. The good times will come. Now it is difficult. We all know that life is hard during the winter. It is easier when the spring comes. It is also easy to live in the summer and the fall. At present, we are coming to the end of the winter.

"When the New comes, violence will no longer exist. Nothing will remain of modern weapons or of modem courts and prisons, as well. The present order will be cast out. God is creating a new World. The old world is giving way to the new.

"When people enter the new Life, they will converse with Angels and with God. How will they speak with God? In silence. In silence you will look at the stars, the moon, the sun; and you will be filled with gladness. God is in all of them. You will be joyful for every little stone, plant and animal. God lives in them. You will rejoice in the soft wind, the pure spring: in them is God."

Peter Deunov (Beinsa Douno)

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