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ZetaTalk : Genetic Engineering

 
Nancy Lieder
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Q: My friend in Russia, who is a biologist, made a series of experiments with rats. She gave them genetically modified food. Next generation of rats had a 65% death rate and others were weak. She knows that the main manufacturer of genetically modified food is Monsanto, located in Saint Louis. She asked about these people - are they really human? Because they lead mankind to destruction.

Mankind has arrived only recently to tinkering with genetics -their own, to cure genetic diseases, and in their crops to improve yield. They have only very recently mapped the entire human genome, making this available to scientists. Are we to presume that they are EXPERT at tinkering, being virtual babes at this endeavor? We have detailed, in prior ZetaTalk, that intelligent species OFTEN get into genetic engineering, that we engineered ourselves ( [link to www.zetatalk.com] that mankind ( [link to www.zetatalk.com] was engineered in the past from many hominoid sources ( [link to www.zetatalk.com] and explained in great detail how we go about genetically engineering the new hybrid race ( [link to www.zetatalk.com] that is mankind’s next leap forward. Genetic engineering by intelligent species upon THEMSELVES, or other, as allowed under the close supervision by the Council of Worlds, is not done by amateurs. By the time they are ABLE to be done in a serious manner, the engineers are almost invariably spiritually advanced and very experienced in engineering in general. They are experienced because they’ve tinkered, on lesser life forms.

Have we, and other races, made mistakes, during genetic engineering projects? Percentage wise, there is only about 23% that did NOT have some kind of drawback, or an error that had to be fixed. Some frank horror stories emerge. Why should genetic engineering be any different from the other enterprises undertaken by man, or any intelligent species setting forth on a new path. Look at the history of man and electricity, the number of electrocutions, explosions, and false starts. Look at the history of air travel, the crashes, the lost planes, the white knuckles of air travelers as they try to remain calm while chirping stewardesses serve them drinks. These endeavors often have a long learning curve, and man as a creature of limited intelligence, being only on the first rung of the evolutionary ladder, will not arrive where he wants to be on ANY of these endeavors, in his current limited stated. This is by design, as given his immature spiritual state, he would wreck havoc by being able to do more than tinker, and hope.

Where is man going awry in his tinkering? First, as a base, man should realize that genetic engineering has ALREADY been done, by nature, during evolution. Some of the things man struggles with, some of his diseases, are in fact protections from other problems, genetically selected to be passed forward only BECAUSE they were of benefit in prior ages. The ability to pack food around one’s middle in the form of fat, a buffer against starvation. This was of course balanced in the past by times of food shortage, the fat dropped. Man was not intended to be perpetually pudgy. High cholesterol or high blood pressure is an advantage when one has to fight a tiger or bear with naught but a knife or stone, or run like hell to escape. This was of course balanced in the past by a period of tranquility, unlike what modern man faces in his daily battles with tension in the work place, the figurative tiger never dispelled. Even diabetes, developing later in life by the chubby and inactive, has a genetically selected advantage. The ancestors of those who did NOT develop diabetes during times of plenty, when early man had naught to do but sit in the berry fields or by streams overflowing with fish, were easy prey for predators, as they gained weight ENDLESSLY, huge toads that could not waddle away. Diabetes, type II, resists an intake of sugar by the cells and forces the body to lose weight, at a horrific rate, then LIFTS when the human is again slim.

Nature has evolved food crops that man fosters to resist insects, and to produce seeds such as grain and tubers such as carrots and potatoes far in excess of what the plant in nature requires to propagate itself. Plants that do so are ALREADY engineered, by nature, to be productive or those parts that creatures eat, as unless the plant does so, rodents and bugs will consume them and the plant will not reproduce itself. The natural process that these plants are using should be ENHANCED. But something different is afoot, among humankind, who have motives other than increased productivity. They seek control of the entire food production and distribution process, and by this, control over mankind, who will thus become slaves, or so they hope. It is certainly no secret that Monsanto, in partnership with the USDA, has created and tried to enforce what is termed the terminator gene ( [link to www.zetatalk.com] which prevents a hybrid plant from reproducing itself. No need for Monsanto to insist on contracts with farmers that require them to return, year after year, for more seed. The farmer CANNOT save seed to avoid this, as the seed would be no good, and not germinate. This plan met with such an uproar that it did not move forward, but has stalled. Nevertheless, the mindset of those doing genetic tinkering with crops can be seen.

If they do not care about causing mankind, those too poor to buy seed, from starving, how much would they care about the overall effect of the crops they are producing? If they get a stronger yield, they push their coercive tactics and contracts, using the stronger yield as an EXCUSE. Of course, any safety measures, any results of such safety checks, are ignored and kept out of the media. This likewise has not passed unnoticed, nor without objection, around the world.
First they ignore you,
then they ridicule you,
then they fight you,
then you win. -Mahatma Gandhi.
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Thatīs great insight brought forth by the Zetaīs. Thank you so much!
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Jesus H Christ!

The original question was "She asked about these people - are they really human? "

and Nancy belabors the obvious with an *80 freakin line reply*

And she never answers the question.

Nancy, are you in love with the sound of your voice?
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Thanks Nancy and Zetas, excellent post.
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The Zetas are to be commended for always making sensible answers to often rather dumb questions. They take what they get and work with it for the greater enlightenment of all.
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nancy - any chance the Zetas would like to comment on the current bird flu push in the news and the ´discovery´ of bird flu in Europe? (initially they said the tests came back negative then they changed their minds)

Are the governments expecting earh changes to begin soon so are ramping up the scare ready for martial law, etc?

in the UK it´s been a top headline everyday for over a week now.
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Well idiot, Nancy says thanks for the bump!
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Notice that the answer has no reference to zetatalk. So this is pure shit from the braincell of the original wiscosin fool aka Nancy "the liar" Lieder.

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Psycho-analysis of Nancy Zeta
*OSIRIS*
9/10/2003
11:53 am EDT

Psycho-analysis of Nancy Zeta

Psycho-analysis of Nancy Zeta

Why does Nancy Lieder do what she does?
We all know she is shrewd business person, turning buck after buck selling salvation to naive people. But what I want to zero in on is how did it all start...the voices?

Does Nancy believe what she says?

The new-age channeling garbage gave hope to schizophrenics who hear voices. The shrinks say ofcourse, they are not mentally healthy. But the newage claptrap gives new found hope and meaning to the mentally challenged in the guise of offering salvation to the un-attuned masses. If, and I think Nancy really does, hear these voices,,,she wants to believe the voices she hears are actually external beings from another constellation. But, and she knows this, if these voices are internalized, coming from her own mind, she knows she´s fucked.

So Nancy holds on to the Zeta vision, hoping and praying that what the voices say, really come true. Then she can say she heard real voices of salvation. Nancy needs these voices to prove prophetically correct, just for her own safe well being. This is the reason she keeps holding on and believing this planet x nonsense...she´s hoping somehow, somewhere, planet x will show. Eventually, however, and that time is now, she will realize that she really is just mentally unstable.
This will be a huge blow to her big ego, and may pose disasterous results.
Once she realizes she has no power of the inner mechanisms of her mind, she may become very vulnerable to the darker voices which have already leaned heavily on her. She admits to animal sacrifice and the way she treats debunkers is very far from spiritual. I feel Nancy will become suicidal from her manic depression. So the bottom line is this: LET´S ALL HOPE THE WORLD ENDS BY PLANET X DESTROYING US ALL, THIS WAY NANCY WILL FEEL MUCH MUCH BETTER...

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*Worldwide famines 2000, 2001, 2002
*Imploding cities
*Australia submerged
*Mag 15 earthquakes
*Hundreds of volcanos erupting
*Visible in scopes in 2002
*Mag 2 in 1996
*Hale Bopp not a comet
*Mag 11 in 2002
*Mag 20 in 2003
*Naked eye visible in March 2003 (Nancy saw it as did some posters here on GLP--we remember)
*Red Cross visible in sky by everyone in the world in April 2003
*A hail of meteorites and other debris in May 2003 creating worldwide firestorms
*Red Dust covering everything in May 2003
*Worldwide barter system prior to May 2003
*Satellites flying out of orbit
*Telecommunications almost completely disrupted
*Martial law
*Iraq not allowed to be invaded
*No Regime change in Iraq
*Political leaders evacuate to Mars
*Pole Shift in 2003
*Rotation stops May 2003
*Pole Shift May 15 2003
*Pole Shift May 23 2003
*Pole Shift June 2003
*Pole Shift July 2003
*Weeks NOT months
*Pole Shift August-Sept. 2003
*Occultation of Jupiter by the moon in dec 2004 not to happen as expected
*ISS astronauts dead within weeks - Dec 10, 2004.

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Here Nancy - Consider your record:

1) Crop failures 2000, 2001,2002 - Worldwide famines

2) Imploding cities prior to passage 2003

3) Islands sinking with their population prior to passage 2003

4) Oceans inundate coastal cities prior to passage May 2003

5) Refugee camps set up prior to passage May 2003

6) Hundreds of volcanoes erupting prior to passage May 2003

7) Increased Earthquakes prior to passage May 2003

8) Worldwide economic depression prior to passage May 2003

9) Worldwide barter system prior to passage May 2003

10) Price controls instituted prior to passage May 2003

11) Satellites flying out of orbit and malfunctioning prior to passage May 2003

12) Telecommunications almost completely disrupted prior to passage May 2003

13) Red Dust covering everything prior to rotation stoppage in May 2003

14) Iraq: No regime change

15) The Moon does not rotate

16) Hale Bopp not a comet

17) "White Lie #1" about Hale Bopp

18) Political leaders evacuate (not allowed to go to mars - what a hoot!)

19) Mag 2 in 1996

20) Mag 11 in 2001 (it seems to be heading out of the solar system)

21) Visible to all amateur scopes in 2002

22) Mag 20 in 2003 (yep, definitely heading out of the solar system)

23) Naked eye visible in March 2003 (must have turned around. Nancy saw it as did some posters here on GLP--we remember)

24) Red Cross visible in sky by everyone in the world in April 2003

25) Australia submerged during the Pole Shift May 2003

26) Mag 15 earthquakes during the Pole Shift May 2003

27) An hail of meteorites and other debris in May 2003 creating worldwide firestorms during the Pole Shift

28) Rotation stops May 2003

29) Pole Shift May 15 2003

30) Pole Shift May 27 2003

31) "White Lie #2" about Pole Shift

32) Pole Shift June 2003

33) Pole Shift July 2003

34) "Weeks NOT Months"

35) Pole Shift August-Sept. 2003

36) Pole Shift and Precursors Dec. 25-30, 2003.

37) Pole Shift in 2003

38) "Zetas 100% accurate" - Nancy Lieder
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Great info Nancy!

You always impress. Keep the info coming, many of us are interested.

Thanks
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Iīve never heard nancy say she hears voices.
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bump for good info
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Nancy is making more sense all the time.
My sense is the debunkers, at least some of them, are here specifically for her. If her message is true and real, and it looks that way for now, then the government would 100 percent for sure have a counter for her invaluable information. Keep it going Nancy, the wheat looks like itīs seperating from the chaffe.

Interesting times.
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Nancy looks like youīve lost the majority of your fan club even here on GLP

1rof1

Nancy Lieder is Nostradamus/Bible End Times mixture of the future and disasters.

The difference is that Nostradamus and Bible End Times actually seem to come true.

Nancy Lieder: Nostradamus/Bible End Times rip off!
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Idol F. Harobed Debunks The; ´Wizard Of Oz´ !

Unconfirmed reports have it, that Idol F. Harobed, of Mara Bunta Ave., in the ´Green Hell of the Mato Grosso´ district of Brazil, is planning to debunk the 1939 Hollywood movie; ´The Wizard of Oz´. Mr. Harobed, speaking through his very personal secretary; ´Consuelo Avatarita´, a buxom young Brazilian tart, who did not get her job, due to excellent shorthand skills, is reportedly highly offended that the plotline of; ´The Wizard of oz´, represents scenarios as true and factual, that can´t be scientifically supported. Such as; chimpanzees with wings, that can soar around like vultures, swooping down on their hapless prey, carrying them off into the wild blue yonder. Mr. Harobed, cites other Hollywood films, which portray chimps in a scienti fically established pattern of behavior. Idol names ´Cheetah in the; ´Tarzan´ films, where all of her flying is confined to vine swinging, to pow-wow with elephants, in order to rescue Tarzan from his latest crisis du´jour. And the film classic extrodinaire; ´Bedtime for Bonzo´ with Ronald Reagan, in a supporting character role to the chimp. "This movie was ahead of it´s time", asserts Mr. Harobed, paving the way for ham actors, and smirking chimps, to become President of America. And even when chimps are selected as President, Idol exhorts us; they must board Air Force 1, in order to fly, for they certainly don´t have wings sprouting from their backs. By debunking the original film, Idol hopes to scuttle possible plans to remake; ´Wizard´, where Dorothy´s dog; ´Toto´, would be replaced with a winged pussy cat, that flies on ahead to Oz, before Dorothy is able to hop the twister. Idol also expresses strong objections to the negative spin exhibited in the trashing of the ´Wic ked Witch of the West´ character. Idol states that she closely resembles his dearly departed great aunt; ´Elvira Harobed Gulch´, who he claims would never have evil, homocidal intentions toward a cute little dog, like; ´Toto´. Idol believes it to be a case of mistaken identity. And that those woo-woos, are confusing Elvira, with the; ´Wicked Witch of the East´ in Wisconsin. The one who decks herself in purple velvet, and is a self-admitted dog snuffer. And who adds insult to injury by swearing that it isn´t Oz, to be found lurking; ´Somewhere Over the rainbow´, but a huge menacing planet, whose passage will send us to the; ´Emerald City´, as fast as lightening. Idol believes the ´Witch of the East´ became a woo-woo, from hearing munchkins, whispering sweet nothings in her ear, and from munching, munchkin men´s majik mushrooms, followed by one tankard of grape kool-aid too many. Idol then debunks Dorothy as a woo-woo, for trying to convince us that she can down the; ´Witch of the West´, in a bucket of water, which melted her, rather than downed her. Finally Idol continues his debunking crusade against chemtrails, by citing the woo-woo depiction of; a Witch pilot, flying over heavily populated; ´Emerald City´, spraying a toxic chemtrail from secret nozzles on the back of her broomstick, in a sinister; ´Surrender Dorothy´ pattern, raining spider web like, bio-chem filaments down on the unsuspecting populace of;´The Emerald City´, who would never believe that their good Wizard would conspire with the; ´Wicked Witch´ to harm them. Or to cloud up the sky, making it impossible to avoid being blindsided by another incoming farmhouse, accompanied this time by a smoldering, reddish brown barn, many times larger than Oz. Even when Oz resident; Ozzy Bloke, alerts them with a long litany of last warnings !
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Wow, good find 16743
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They seem to be experimenting with every possible DNA code possible,seeing what works and what does not.
This is carried out very determinedly.
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Nancy,

Thank you for your article outlining the Monster, MONSANTO. This Corporation exists as one of the greatest dangers to the entire world of humanity.

Somehow the people need to go inside of themselves and generate a potent antedote to combat Monsanto. Monsanto is not a friend of Farmers either. They make farmers into their slaves.

Anyone readng this can do a search on this name:

Percy Schmizer. Percy is a Canadia Farmer who went up against Monsanto. Percy is a 71 year old who battled with Monsanto and won a small notch, but it didnīt stop Monsanto.

People, Nancy has given you a brief intro to Monsanto, a hideious monster that has already harmed humanity in the worst way.

Thanks to ZetaTalk once again for presenting genuine and truthful information.
Nothing matters more to me than that I feel good.
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I´m not the only one who has noticed that when you ask Nancy a straightforward question, she responds with dozens of lines of incomprehensible gibberish unrelated to your question.

Some psychiatrically challenged Zeta is channelling all this stuff to her. The data is corrupt at it´s source! That explains everything. She is a mouthpiece for an interstellar street person.

I propose that we all ask Nancy to channel a different Zeta - hopefully one who doesn´t sleep outdoors on urine-soaked cardboard boxes many light-years away.

If we all do this, maybe she´ll listen and find someone "out there" who will help her, us, and the obviously psychotic Zeta she´s been enabling these many years.

Nancy, what do you say?
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"Nancy, what do you say?"

on my second final note of what we have to say. I am to let your question say what I have to say about that. it is about what I say is that the drink is a lot like. I feel the answer of the question is a bit of a complexity in the answer. a dime a dozen they say but I do not know if it replies to request. I have to say that. I have to say also in other words which might not you speak to.

gib gib to not there I. but who I know is that who I know.

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thatīs all I have to say about that
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8614. What is your question? Is Nancy here to answer questions for people who donīt take the time to open up their consciousness?

Generally, the ones who ask all the questions are people who continually question everything...itīs like questions breed questions.

How about giving some answers yourself?
Nothing matters more to me than that I feel good.
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Yeah how dare you question her! naughty

Wolf, my name is Joe Moe. For real it is. If you donīt believe me itīs because youīre not opening up your consciouness enough. Stop questioning it.
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"I´ve never heard nancy say she hears voices."



lmaolol1rof1rofl
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Joe Moe: "Wolf, my name is Joe Moe. For real it is. If you don´t believe me it´s because you´re not opening up your consciouness enough. Stop questioning it."

Sorry to hear that you name is the cause for much sorrow in your life, Joe Moe. Still, I wonder what Your name has to dowith this serious threat of turning human life into slaves to the likes of Monsanto?

Do you doubt, Joe, that there are forces, right here in the United States, and has cooperation with the United States Government to literally take control of the food operations on the entire planet? This is very bad, Joe. It has nothing to do with Nancy. Nancy is merely a messenger passing along vital information to those that have the eyes to see and ears to hear.

Sadly, most people who have responded are called SHEEPLE among the more enlightened ones.
Nothing matters more to me than that I feel good.





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