Is this possibly the very earliest prophecy of the Son of God (Jesus) found inscripted on an artifact that dates approx 12,000 yrs old?

I just saw this thread. Intriguing!

"Son of creator" and similar phrases can be found in a lot of ancient literature, for example the non-canonical Jewish writings. It would seem that the authors were definitely expecting "something" to happen "sometime." I wouldn't say any of them were expected Jesus as Jesus came, taught, and lived. And certainly no one expected the resurrection!

Good find, OP!

OP I have much of this ancient writing myself, I was blown away by these artifacts and the implications.

it seems evident that these artifacts are inspired from a non-earth origin, and these same symbols are found all over the globe. the artifact for the topic of this thread was found in Ecuador, and these symbols are being used by illuminati/demonic societies (pyramid/eye) since before the time of Solomon and the building of the pyramids/temple until present day.

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one cannot rule Jesus out with the implication of this artifact either.

Really? What i took from the vid (that i'd seen before), especially the part where he says the pre sanskrit writing has been found all over the world and that it was his opinion the world all had one language/writing in the past, since I believe in the Bible, is that this is all indicative of pre flood civilization. This means the wicked pre flood civilization used the pyramid and all-seeing eye as they do today.)

precisely. these are the artifacts of the Nephilim/Giants/Watchers...

toward the end of the video, it shows fascinating medical instruments as well as DNA discs made from lydite. these discs show a possible hybridization scenario, as well as used advanced medical instruments for birthing aid, etc. there is no way humans at this time could accomplish this or know this information.

wish i could pin this for more discussion

On the contrary Salt, many pastors today who talk on these topics believe the giants lived hundreds of years old as the Bible says. Living to be that age they would be very wise. They also did not have the genetic and DNA breakdown we have had since. Many believe they were smart enuff to remember volumes of books without the need to even write it down.

Those medical instruments were probably just one doctors personal tools. Others may have forged metal ones, was my thoughts. There have been metal forges found.

I'm also not a believer in the angel baby theories. These giants are fully human. Everything was larger preflood as the atmosphere was different. The dinosaurs would not get to grow to that size today due to the oxygen content we breath was greater in the past, but also the sun's UV that reaches earth today is also greater. Some links to Dr Baugh who has recreated a preflood condition in a lab...
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The Bible says in Gen 6 ..

Sons of God - this is the line of Seth.

Daughter's of man - this is the line of Cain.

They became unequally yokes and caused great sin on the earth, ect.

the term "sons of God" are repeatedly used in the bible to refer to angels. every reference of it is used to speak of angels except maybe one... and i am digging to find it now

and angels of all kinds, fallen or not

The contrast made in Genesis 6:2 is not between the descendants of Seth and the descendants of Cain, but between the "sons of God" and the "daughters of men." If by "sons of God" is meant "sons of Seth," then only the sons of Seth engaged in mixed marriages, and not the daughters. And only the daughters of Cain were involved, and not the sons. And another strange assumption is implied: that only the sons of Seth were godly, and only the daughters of Cain were evil.

The strangeness is compounded when one seeks for evidence that the sons of Seth were godly. We know from Genesis that when the time came for God to destroy the human race, He found only one godly family left among them--that of Noah. Where were all the other supposedly godly sons of Seth? Even Seth's own son could hardly be called righteous. His name was Enos, meaning "mortal" or "frail." And he certainly lived up to it! Genesis 4:26 reads, "And to Seth, to him also there was born a son; and he called his name Enos: then began men to call upon the name of the Lord." That statement seems harmless enough, but what does it mean when it says that it was only now that men began to call upon the name of the Lord? Upon whom did Adam call? And Abel? And Seth himself?

Some scholars give us a more literal and exact translation to this verse: "Then men began to call themselves by the name of Jehovah." Other scholars translate the statement in this manner: "Then men began to call upon their gods (idols) by the name of Jehovah." If either of these be the correct translation then the evidence for the so-called godly line of Seth is non- existent. The truth of the matter is that Enos and his line, with few noted exceptions, were as ungodly as the other line. The divine record could not be clearer: "all flesh had corrupted his way upon the earth" (Genesis 6:12).

In the Old Testament, the designation "sons of God" (bene Elohim) is never used of humans, but always of supernatural beings that are higher than man but lower than God. To fit such a category only one species is known--angels. And the term "sons of God" applies to both good and bad angels. These are the beings of whom Augustine wrote:

"Like the gods they have corporeal immortality, and passions like human beings." (2)

The designation "sons of God" is used four other times in the Old Testament, each time referring to angels. One example is Daniel 3:25, where king Nebuchadnezzar looks into the fiery furnace and sees four men, "and the form of the fourth is like the son of God." The translation is different and clearer in our modern versions, "like a son of the gods." Since Jesus had not yet become the "only begotten son" of God, this "son" would have had to be angelic.

Another example is Job 38:7 which says the sons of God shouted for joy when God laid the foundations of the Earth. Angels are the only entities that fit this designation since man had not been created at that time!

In Job 1:6 and Job 2:1 the "sons of God" came to present themselves before the Lord in Heaven. Among the sons of God is Satan--a further implication that the "sons of God" must have been angels.


Since the designation "sons of God" is consistently used in the Old Testament for angels, it is logical to conclude that the term in Genesis 6:2 also refers to angels.

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highly possible. I did not watch the film, but the decision for the Creator Son to come to this world was made around 40,000 years ago around the same time Adam and Eve came to this world to uplift the races by both teaching, management, and genetically.

the decision for the Creator's son to come was made at the beginning

3 more karma points and i can shin this pit

Salt, generally in the bible sons of god does refer to the angelics, but HUmans, are also Sons of God and the teachings of Jesus stating that were left out of the NT, near as I can remember. Jesus taught heavily that his Father is also everyones Father. Has NOTHING to do with religion, any religion, christianity included. all religions are mediocre.


Here is a teaching by Jesus, in the UB. copied from my ub thread. Paper 150 from the UB. www urantia.org

Thread: Discovering the Urantia Book (Page 7)

5. What Must I Do to Be Saved? (I remind you, this is page 1682, of paper 150 section 5, is how these are labeled as to location. )

(1682.3) 150:5.1 One evening at Shunem, after John’s apostles had returned to Hebron, and after Jesus’ apostles had been sent out two and two, when the Master was engaged in teaching a group of twelve of the younger evangelists who were laboring under the direction of Jacob, together with the twelve women, Rachel asked Jesus this question: “Master, what shall we answer when women ask us, What shall I do to be saved?” When Jesus heard this question, he answered:

(1682.4) 150:5.2 “When men and women ask what shall we do to be saved, you shall answer, Believe this gospel of the kingdom; accept divine forgiveness. By faith recognize the indwelling spirit of God, whose acceptance makes you a son of God. Have you not read in the Scriptures where it says, ‘In the Lord have I righteousness and strength.’ Also where the Father says, ‘My righteousness is near; my salvation has gone forth, and my arms shall enfold my people.’ ‘My soul shall be joyful in the love of my God, for he has clothed me with the garments of salvation and has covered me with the robe of his righteousness.’ Have you not also read of the Father that his name ‘shall be called the Lord our righteousness.’ ‘Take away the filthy rags of self-righteousness and clothe my son with the robe of divine righteousness and eternal salvation.’ It is forever true, ‘the just shall live by faith.’ Entrance into the Father’s kingdom is wholly free, but progress — growth in grace — is essential to continuance therein.

(1682.5) 150:5.3 “Salvation is the gift of the Father and is revealed by his Sons. Acceptance by faith on your part makes you a partaker of the divine nature, a son or a daughter of God. By faith you are justified; by faith are you saved; and by this same faith are you eternally advanced in the way of progressive and divine perfection. By faith was Abraham justified and made aware of salvation by the teachings of Melchizedek. All down through the ages has this same faith saved the sons of men, but now has a Son come forth from the Father to make salvation more real and acceptable.”

(1683.1) 150:5.4 When Jesus had left off speaking, there was great rejoicing among those who had heard these gracious words, and they all went on in the days that followed proclaiming the gospel of the kingdom with new power and with renewed energy and enthusiasm. And the women rejoiced all the more to know they were included in these plans for the establishment of the kingdom on earth.

(1683.2) 150:5.5 In summing up his final statement, Jesus said: “You cannot buy salvation; you cannot earn righteousness. Salvation is the gift of God, and righteousness is the natural fruit of the spirit-born life of sonship in the kingdom. You are not to be saved because you live a righteous life; rather is it that you live a righteous life because you have already been saved, have recognized sonship as the gift of God and service in the kingdom as the supreme delight of life on earth. When men believe this gospel, which is a revelation of the goodness of God, they will be led to voluntary repentance of all known sin. Realization of sonship is incompatible with the desire to sin. Kingdom believers hunger for righteousness and thirst for divine perfection.”

hi Candace, my Colorado neighbor. How are you?

You worship a fallen angel and his Nephilim offspring. Get over it already and free yourself from the deception.

the beginning of what, Salt? Earth? NO Way. The decision was made long after Lucifer and his thugs were placed here. You must take the box off, beloved, the bible is not complete, it is hugely lacking.

the creation is trillions of years old. There are uncountable sons of God, but the Son of the Creator refers to the Creator Sons and there are today over 500,000 thousand of these sons. ONE of them came here. Jesus was NOT the only begotten son of God. The 2nd person of the trinity is the FIRST begotten Son. You are all only begotten sons and daughters in fact, because none of us match in our experiences.

at the beginning of creation of everything

No Salt, Jesus was and is NOT the FIRST begotten son. that very wrong teaching keeps you ones from manifesting your son of godness in fact

The catholic church did this deliberately. The 2nd Person of the Trinity, the ETERNAL SON cannot in fact incarnate any place. He is in fact the "mother son" of all the creator sons. Each Creator Son, all over 800,000+ of them, Have the Father and the Eternal Son as parents. We in fact at this time have some younger Sons of these energies incarnate on this planet, and also visiting invisibly for training purposes.

I am an only begotten Son and so are you. None of us is the first begotten son.

NIP, i know your belief set and i disagree with it in just about every way.

let's just agree to disagree.

i'm not in a box, either.

Yes beloved you are, take it off. The correct teaching about the faith sons of God is ABOVE I do not have a "belief set" dear one, I have KNOWING. It is you with the belief set. Now climb out of that box and manifest yourself as a Daughter of the FATHER. Because you are. If the people of earth had any idea of cosmology they would come out of religion.

Jesus SHOWED/Demonstrated that religion is personal to each person. It was each ones personal relationship with the Father's MIND within their MIND. He demonstrated how to commune with the Father WITHIN, because had a Father Fragment within his own mind to use on that journey here.

I will consider you having taken yourself out of the box when you can accept yourself as an only begotten son/daughter of the Father, for when you do that, a whole new world will open unto you. please again read the UB post above.

Candace, you are probably one of the most deceived new agers I have ever seen...

your whole core belief set sounds more like a weak speilberg knockoff than anything based in sound doctrine.

please do not engage in attempts to belittle me. it will be your exercise in futility.

if you do not want to discuss the topic then please leave the thread. I will not allow you to turn the topic of this thread, which is potentially the most significant artifact to date, it into your jupiter ignition starfleet command bullshit

No Salt, I am not. but I will leave your thread, as you cannot see and it does not serve to waste my time here. This IS the returned Jesus and I do know him and I think for myself. :jesus space ship::esu with blue ey::pansy bouquet:

i was there when that artifact was made.. im being serious here.. for a generous donation i will give you the word it spells out which is also a short hand for 4 other words.. i cant tell you the 4 words which each letter spells but i can tell you what letter each symbol represents for a generous paypal donation.. and im being serious.. if you want this truth to come out you fuckers have to pay..

may i also add that each letter is more that just a word, it is an encrypted vibration that reads the truth of the universe from beginning to end.. they are all interconnected representing things of great significance.. i am not bull shitting.. this is all im saying and this is all you will get out of me.. pay me and i might reveal more..

You're calling THEM deceived??? They follow the teachings of the Nephilim (sons of the fallen angELs (gods)) as they are, but YOU, you're still under that strong delusion and worship a Nephilim, the son of a god (fallen angel), and YOU can't SEE the deception. Now again: who's deceived? YOU are, sad to say...

Collossians 2:18 (christians are afraid of the Original Testament so I'll quote from a book that won't make you run and hide).

Col. 2:18--Don't let anyone condemn you by insisting on pious self-denial or the worship of angels, saying they have had visions about these things. Their sinful minds have made them proud...

You know, Salt, I think these are ante-deluvian, but I don't think they are pointing towards Jesus.

Now, Adam and Eve were told about Jesus and their children knew. Unfortunately, this looks extremely like the masonic/luciferian thing. From the 33 to the 13 stairs, the owl worship, etc, etc. I really don't think that they are artifacts of worship of the Creator, but of satan.

I think the same game that is being played now by satan through masonry and the illuminati was being played with people before Noah's Flood. The Bible tells us that during Peleg's time, the continents were divided.

Genesis 10:
25 Two sons were born to Eber:
One was named Peleg,[a] because in his time the earth was divided; his brother was named Joktan.

This was after the flood. I think the artifacts are interesting and I wish that mankind had waited for the Real Son of God, but they were deceived by satan even then just as mankind is deceived by satan now. satan does NOT want to give Jesus the credit as The Son of God, so I don't see how these masonic type artifacts point to worship of The True Creator, but the creation in the form of a fallen angel.

This is a very interesting video, still and there are many of us Christians who believe that the ante-deluvian people were incredibly technilogically advanced, maybe even with machines similar to what we have now. To me, this totally backs up what The Bible said about ante-diluvian mankind being totally given over to evil day and night and that He repented of making man. Mankind was a sorry a sight then as it is now, esp to the Living God who created us and gave us life in this world He designed to support us. Jesus told us that in the End of Days it would be as it was in the days of Noah. I think we are already there, Salt.

Thanks for the video, it was worth watching.

In Jesus Christ,
Fiery Sky