BREAKING! Outbreak confrontation in Libia: large-scale civil war comes

At this point, the center of Tripoli almost complete control of the supporters of al-Gaddafi. Jamahiriya Green flags are raised in all high rise buildings of the city. wow!

I'm so proud of them ..

Dead Gaddafi is now stronger than many times, it became the flag of fight for independence

“It is clear that the current period is cascading into paroxysmal revenge attacks and political cleansing.”



Terror and Revenge Engulfs NATO's Libya

CounterPunch Exclusive

Benghazi

The “new Libya” has entered its own “Terror” which is spreading inexorably, aided by NATO member states including American, French and British SAS units known locally as “disappearance squads”. This is one of the rapidly developing consequences of the UN's rush to “protect Libya's civilian population” last spring.

And it is why human rights investigators are arriving in Benghazi, Libya this week.

“Approximately 1,085.92082238 kilometers or roughly 600 miles from Cairo to Benghazi” is what the lovely travel agent who works a couple of doors down from the Swedish Café off Tahir Sq reported as she wanted this observer to take a fancy high rise double decker luxury bus to Benghazi where I was headed from Cairo. In the end I settled for sharing a dump truck at one-third the cost across the Egyptian and Libyan desert to the Courthouse in Benghazi. It didn't seem such a bad idea following meetings in nearby countries, especially considering alternative routes which would have involved flying to Tunis, then another flight to Jerba and then the six hours jammed service ride to Tripoli. I had been there and done that more than once and needed to leave right away to meet some people who were being held in one of Benghazi's teeming jails.

Until the NTC announced changes yesterday, anyone bearing an American passport did not need a visa to enter Libya, so grateful has been the NTC for all the financial help that American taxpayers, largely unknowingly, have supplied to NTC officials in addition to presenting them with a country with vast oil reserves and zero national debt.

One of the fortunate language usages in this part of the world is the liberal transliteration tolerances applied to Arabic which helps those challenged by the language. As is widely known there are many ways to write Arabic words in roman characters and most are accepted. But one has to listen carefully in Libya these days to grasp the important distinction between certain English words when referring to the fate of increasing numbers of supporters of the Gadhafi regime. In the current atmosphere one often hears that someone “has disappeared” which, depending on one's political views is usually good news and it means the person is in hiding or left the area or fled the country to safety. Alternatively, it might be said that a person “is disappeared” meaning that she or he was caught by the new regime and is gone, probably, forever without a trace for loved ones to pursue.

Following meetings with Libyan evacuees (disappeared) from NATO's nine months of bombing who are now present in nearby countries and from meetings inside Libya with incarcerated former officials and some of their family members as well as fugitive opponents of the new “government” it is clear that the current period is cascading into paroxysmal revenge attacks and political cleansing.

Those increasingly being targeted by “disappearance squads” are family members and associates, even former domestic employees such as gardeners, handymen, and household staff of former regime affiliates. Homes, cars, furniture, of former regime affiliates are being systematically confiscated. Torture has become the normal means to elicit information regarding the whereabouts of individuals thought to still be supporting the former regime. The reason, according to one former Libyan official who barely escaped one of the French squads and who now resides in Egypt, “is the same reason drones are so popular with your US military, torture works. Not 100% but it's better than the other options.”

There appears to be a Tell Tale Heart paranoia settling in among some NTC elements who believe that if there is one Gadhafi supporter left in Libya it might mean the return of his ideas for Libya's role via a vis the West and its re-colonization of Africa plans, control of Libya's natural resources and its relations with the rapidly changing Middle East.

Even Libya's NATO-managed NTC members are worried that they may be investigated by the International Criminal Court after its prosecutor said allegations of crimes committed by NATO in Libya would be examined “impartially and independently.” Some western lawyers currently in Libya who are here to help victims of NATO crimes are oddly being approached by members of the new regime for discussions relating to the possibility that the ICC may come after them. This is also one of the reasons why rumors that Saif al Islam is about to surrender to the ICC are false. Saif is being advised to wait and rest because the ICC case will collapse as more facts of NATO crimes surface. Former Libyan officials in hiding are also well advised to stay safe if possible as time may be on their side.

Government officials of countries bordering Libya are being advised to allow sanctuary for supporters of the former Libyan government and to refuse extradition requests because activity currently taking place in The Hague may well pre-empt a war crimes investigation.

Tunisia is today under great pressure from NATO not to change its mind and not to decline the NTC extradition request for Libya's former Prime Minister Baghdadi al-Mahmoudi. NATO is concerned because American lawyers recommended last month that Baghdadi apply for UN political refugee status with the UN High Commissioner for Refugees to try to prevent his extradition from Tunisia. On 11/11/11 the UN acknowledged receipt of Dr. Baghdadi's petition.

[link to www.thepeoplesvoice.org]

Last Edited by Phennommennonn on 11/12/2011 09:40 AM

I agree... I mean, check it:

Iranian munitions blowing up Iranians in Iran, Libyans killing Libyans in Libya...

Could the day get any better????

Waste of space.

This is a war for decades to

Do we have that much time left?

This war is not yet in Europe?

Fewer people - more oxygen!

Eons, more like it.

Muslims always kill Muslims when nobody else is convenient.

It's who they are. It's what they do. There's no point in anyone getting too upset by it.

do they have ninjas?

Army kills three helicopters Qatar. NATO actually handed rule over Libya\\\'s army of Qatar. The whole south of the country control the forces loyal to Gaddafi.
Army of Qatar, which after the actual departure of NATO handed over control of the country, bears the loss. 3 helicopters were shot down with members of the army of Qatar on board. Qatari Army helicopters strike the capital of Libya, Colonel Qaddafi seized faithful, troops.
\\\"The mission to resolve the situation in Libya is fully transferred to Qatar. It was his strength and resources now play a dominant role. But bear the loss. According to our records, Qatar, who was not involved in actual combat, I have just received a blank check. The number of Qatari troops in Libya reached 7000 bayonets. Basically, it\\\'s special forces and representatives of the country\\\'s air force \\\", - said Russian military-diplomatic source.
\\\"According to our data obtained from sources including the embassy in Tripoli just destroyed dozens of mercenaries who fought\\\" the flag \\\"of Qatar. Army kills three helicopters Qatar. Two of the Sabha, one of Tripoli \\\"- the source says.
According to him, the center of Tripoli and its suburbs are in the hands of the faithful Gaddafi forces.

November 12

The contagion to the homeland where this aggression is invented is unavoidable. Same people, same spirits are at work and no other solution.

Franklin Lamb... i never heard of this journalist, but what he said reminded me of independent journalists covering what was happenining in Libya, apparently he got shot while covering the story there a few months ago:

[link to theintelhub.com]


There was a story from examiner.com stating that independent journalists were getting target/assassinated (not by the gadaffi regime either):

[link to www.examiner.com]

The following story is about and from an independent journalists (without them news may seem like the events in the movie Wag the Dog):

[link to www.voltairenet.org]

She reported that around the time when Tripoli fell to 'rebel' forces:

"She said a Western-backed genocide is taking place in Libya and there are no independent journalists left on the ground to cover the story."

Sure. You could get run over by a car.


Not so funny when someone wishes you ill will, is it?

I think this has something to do with what you are talking about -

This is great news and bad news.

The Good news is that corrupt NATO presence could be kicked out.

The Bad news is that Libya could and will turn against Israel during the Gog Magog.

Man, fuck this shit just got Biblical.

This is what I thought about this sudden uprising in Libya and Syrian membership withdrawal, with Iranian bombing etc. all of which by a stroke of luck happened on the same day. Were anything be be implied with an ongoing attack by Israel, then it makes sense for them to keep loyal libyan fighters busy in their homeland while they launch an attack on Iran.

The bible is a script however and it won't succeed.

This sudden Libya crisis have the looks of a fomented or orchestrated crisis.

Last Edited by Ohwell on 11/12/2011 10:38 AM

And now comes the INEVITABLE civil war as our regime change and murder of Gaddafi was NOT with the popular support of the bulk of Libyans. When you sow the wind, you reap the whirlwind.

I believe that Ron Paul will try to end these foreign wars of corporate interference that have NO benefit to the average American, and bring us back to the Monroe Doctrine which stood us in good stead for over a century. We need to go back to MINDING OUR OWN BUSINESS and taking care of our own country. All globalists should BURN IN HELL.

TPTB are fulfilling Bible prophecy intentionally so that they bring forth their NWO after killin 90% of the world.
Its even in the Bible which preaches the same stuff - a NWO under some guy called "Jesus".

Bible = NWO Zionist conspiracy

Someone else other than RP has to stop this war NOW!!! You haven't got that much time.

Obama's bold troop withdrawal message from Iraq by December is a deadline for the world. They don't have plans for the soldiers to come home. This is full on WAR he has declared and expect a False Flag on US soil to keep the soldiers in the middle east region. And with these developing stories today with Libya, Syria and Iran, pray someone stops this madness and fast.

Unformulated that won't happen. As the blood thirsty Zionists want a NWO with 90% people wiped off the face of the Earth with their central kingdom to be located in Israel.

BINGO!! Its really not much fulfilment. Its a blueprint. And the whole world should be up in their huge numbers to put a stop to this madness. But goes what they are doing? Reading scriptures and believing all these are being brought about by God.

They are all mentally enslaved.

*Unfortunately

Sad thing is, the Zionists will get their wish....

Perfect reason to Genocide all Westerners.
Good riddance.
Love Jesus and Mary.