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Thanksgiving = Sweeping The Ugly Truth Under the Rug

 
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The Indians were brutal people. Lisa/Lisa has been watching too many Kevin Costner movies.

Indians showed no mercy upon other tribes, They did things to their POWs thats never been documented amongst white people
They practiced spiritism that led to frightening demonic possession, like voudou and the lifestyle was harsh and not something anyone would want

People have the rose colored glasses, like expecting to see Kevin Costner wearing Indian skins and riding over the plains, And hes going to sweep a woman off her feet and into his teepee.

Well how pleasant is that with no baths, showers, heat, air conditioning and bug control?

It wasnt Romantic at all. Hollywood made it seem romantic, it wasnt.
 Quoting: APOLLYON ILLUMINATUS


Exactly right Apollo!! Good karma!!
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Way too much hate and judgment in here.....I'm done.
 Quoting: Lisa*Lisa


You want to erase history and our forefathers trying to build a better life, Shame on you.

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Actually, nobody is sweeping it under the rug. We hear about it every year. It is what it is. If you feel compelled to hand your house over to a nice Native American family, then do so. Nobody is stopping you. Show us that you're more than words and take action.

Have half of your paycheck go to the Indian college fund or go spend it at a casino to support them.

I see so many people who are quick to blame and point the finger at our founding fathers, leaders, etc. yet they are never more than words. Never any actions. Until you are actively doing something about it, you are just another American enjoying the fruits of somebody else's labor all the while throwing stones at them.
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Way too much hate and judgment in here.....I'm done.
 Quoting: Lisa*Lisa


You want to erase history and our forefathers trying to build a better life, Shame on you.

:eagle1:
 Quoting: APOLLYON ILLUMINATUS


You call yourself a christian, and yet you promote genocide?

Whatever.......I"m finished with this hatefest.
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45 million to 250,000 really is quite incredible, american karma is fucked beyond all recognition.
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So is British Karma. The world was England's party ground for many years. Remember, what country did 'the states' seek independence from?
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There is an old Cherokee phrophecy that one day the "real people" will get their land back
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Wishful thinking on their part.

However, that being said, I have never understood
WHY American corporations choose to re-locate to foreign countries when they could re-locate and build their factories and other production facilities on the Reservations. Doing so would keep their businesses HERE in the US, take advantage of MILLIONS of square acres of otherwise unproductive land, provide employment and benefits for the highest unemployed group in the US (thereby raising THEIR standard of living), and would be just as "cheap" (if not "cheaper") than moving all of their operations overseas.

Seems a bit short-sighted to me.
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bsflag..Stupid Bullshit!!
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bsflag
It's all BS about Indians,Pilgrims, maize and Turkey. What amuses me is that this folklore is taught in US schools as fact.
It's a made up Holiday started by Abraham Lincoln,


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All I know, is my wallet gets scalped at them thar indian kasino's...
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Yup! Taking back "their" land, a nickel at a time!
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Way too much hate and judgment in here.....I'm done.
 Quoting: Lisa*Lisa


Hate and judgement.... lol

More like the truth hurts... Doesn't it Ms. Hypocritical?
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way to go lisa lisa... you have fallen for tptb biggest scam: good ole hate whitey christians. nevermind that the 'indians' were heathens and worshipped demon gods... you do know that the pilgrims considered themselves israelites and america was their promised land.

who do you think writes the false history that you now embrace? why should this surprise me.. you follow once4all around like a lapdog not once questioning 'the spirits' he is communicating with. 1 john 4 says to test the spirits.

1Beloved, believe not every spirit, but try the spirits whether they are of God: because many false prophets are gone out into the world.

2Hereby know ye the Spirit of God: Every spirit that confesseth that Jesus Christ is come in the flesh is of God:

3And every spirit that confesseth not that Jesus Christ is come in the flesh is not of God: and this is that spirit of antichrist, whereof ye have heard that it should come; and even now already is it in the world.

4Ye are of God, little children, and have overcome them: because greater is he that is in you, than he that is in the world.

 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 3840599


You slander these people, when in fact you have no clue. The american indians were not "heathens", in fact they worshipped the same God that you and me do. Jesus came and preached to them and He taught them how to worship properly.



You are bearing false witness against your own brother when you spread lies about the american indians.

Jesus loved them, and I do too! Get the hate out of your heart!
 Quoting: Lisa*Lisa


Care to remind me of tribe that used to be around la and tx area at gulf coast....you know cannibalistic activites tribe.
or inlighten us about origins of Yosemite tribe...
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Stuff your mouth with turkey and shut up.

Turkey is good for the soul and heals all your bad karma.

As reconciliation to the Native Americans you can watch the KC Chiefs play ball while your kids watch Disney's Pocahontas.

Afterward you can have a family discussion about how quickly Iran and all its inhabitants should be bombed into a parking lot.

Then you can all go listen to your pastor tell you that Jesus just wants you to have all the nice things you desire.
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THanksgiving is also a time to be with family and friends
and give thanks for the positives in life.

Too bad something negative has to be dug up in everything
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 4453934


I wasn't there, so I don't really know what happened, but I am sick of the America bashing, especially by the Brits! Clean your own backyard up first!

I learned one thing about Thanksgiving as a child, and at some point that all started changing.

"We have to change our history", something I remember Mrs. Obammy saying. I think it has been slowly changing for years, and she knows it, anybody over 40 should be able to see it.

Eventually the Pilgrims will be portrayed as a militant group sent by the pope himself, not people seeking religious freedoms.

I'm sure a lot of bad stuff happened, but I doubt it was perpetrated by just one side. I bet a lot of good came from it too, but we can't talk about that.
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Have you ever considered that everything would have been different in history IF the prevailing trade winds had been from North America to Europe and not vice versa?

Have you ever considered that Native American disease strains could have wiped out the new arrivals just as easily as vice versa?

I don't know WHY these things are, they just are. Perhaps destiny?

From what I have read in original documents, the colonists were concerned with the salvation of the souls of the Native Americans that they met, and fully accepted them into their society after conversion. (i.e. Pocohantas baptised and married to John Rolfe) It is hard for me to see racism in this. BTW, I am of Creek ancestory.

Is the story of Squanto still known? I believe that this is a story of "what man has intended for evil, God intended for good". A very Thankful Thanksgiving to you all.

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bullshit
Have a great day!
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THanksgiving is also a time to be with family and friends
and give thanks for the positives in life.

Too bad something negative has to be dug up in everything
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 4453934


I wasn't there, so I don't really know what happened, but I am sick of the America bashing, especially by the Brits! Clean your own backyard up first!

I learned one thing about Thanksgiving as a child, and at some point that all started changing.

"We have to change our history", something I remember Mrs. Obammy saying. I think it has been slowly changing for years, and she knows it, anybody over 40 should be able to see it.

Eventually the Pilgrims will be portrayed as a militant group sent by the pope himself, not people seeking religious freedoms.

I'm sure a lot of bad stuff happened, but I doubt it was perpetrated by just one side. I bet a lot of good came from it too, but we can't talk about that.
 Quoting: Drizzt


clappa
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The lie here, is the belief, that all the nations of indians, were peaceful, and never committed atrocities upon one another.
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No, not all were peaceful, but some were. Regardless, that does not justify what was done, not even close. The fact is that they were here first, and they were kicked out of their land. It was theirs and it was because of greed that their land was stolen and they were murdered.

Some americans are savages too. Some are, and some aren't.

You don't judge a whole nation of people because of the acts of some.
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Might want to think on that one, Lisa
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The lie here, is the belief, that all the nations of indians, were peaceful, and never committed atrocities upon one another.
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No, not all were peaceful, but some were. Regardless, that does not justify what was done, not even close. The fact is that they were here first, and they were kicked out of their land. It was theirs and it was because of greed that their land was stolen and they were murdered.

Some americans are savages too. Some are, and some aren't.

You don't judge a whole nation of people because of the acts of some.
 Quoting: Lisa*Lisa




"They were here first"? What about the TRULY native people who were here, that were wiped out by the Indians when THEY began showing up?

Have you ever read about the red-haired, white-skinned mummies which have been discovered in various places in the US? They were wiped out by the Indians. Where do you suppose that THEY originated? LOL!

HUMAN history (not just "WHITE" history) is basically a list of one group moving in and wiping out whichever group was already there. Even the Bible speaks of the "Chosen People" moving in and wiping out vast numbers of peoples and tribes who were already occupying the desired piece of real estate.

"Expansion of the Group" is genetically hard-wired into our DNA.
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"Those who don't know history are destined to repeat it."
Edmund Burke


There are no holidays celebrated today that have not lost most or all of their original intent.

Native Americans for the most part do NOT celebrate Thanksgiving for the reasons thought by most. We celebrate on a Native American Day, a feast of sorts, and have for a very long time as well as at our dances.

The Native Americans were treated like animals by the white man for greed just as is happening today with other cultures, period.

My great grandmother was an Indian slave until she married at a very young age and then refused to admit to anyone outside the family what her heritage was. SAD. Her parents were killed on the trail of tears.

There were some tribes that were not so civilized and could be brutal when their space was encroached upon, however most were a very peaceful people. It is one thing for you to argue in your own home but it's another for an outsider to come in and cause pure chaos with the intention of dividing your family so they can get something you have. This is basically what happened.

What is the saddest part of this particular piece of our history is that we, humans, have continued to repeat the same process for the same purposes over and over with all people in a lot of nations. refer to bold quote above.

Enjoy and be at peace with your family and what you have everyday, not just on holidays.
peace

Edited to add that I'm half Irish and half Native Americanwinking smiley

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Thanksgiving = Sweeping The Ugly Truth Under the Rug.

The atrocities that were done against the Indian people were horrific and cruel. Atleast recognize the truth about this "holiday". To deny it is another insult to the Indians that were slaughtered and forced out of their homes and their land. They were kicked out of the land that was theirs for hundreds of years, sent away on a "trail of tears" to unknown territory where many died on the way, and many others died when they got there from diseases and starvation. It never should have happened.

Jesus warned the Indians of the white man that would come with "sticks that killed from a distance". He cried when He told them about what white man would do to them because He knew! He knew about the murders, the atrocities that white man was going to do to the Indian people! He knew that their land would be stolen from them, many would die and life would never be the same for them again!

Yet, this lie of thanksgiving goes on, like nothing ever happened. In schools, children dress up like pilgrims and indians..and everybody is happy.....but nobody mentions the death and horror that really occurred.

How would the Jewish people feel if nobody ever acknowledged the holocaust? How would the Christians feel if nobody acknowledged our people being fed to the lions? How would Veterans feel if nobody remembered the vets that died in the wars?

It happened.......and it's a sad and sorry part of our history that just gets swept under the rug like it never even happened.

If people want to celebrate "thanksgiving", then it should be a memorial for all of the Indians that were murdered and abused at the hands of white man because that's the truth, that's honest and that's the right thing to do.

"Some aspects of the conventional story are true enough. But it's also true that by 1637 Massachusetts Gov. John Winthrop was proclaiming a thanksgiving for the successful massacre of hundreds of Pequot Indian men, women and children, part of the long and bloody process of opening up additional land to the English invaders. The pattern would repeat itself across the continent until between 95 and 99 percent of American Indians had been exterminated and the rest were left to assimilate into white society or die off on reservations, out of the view of polite society.

Simply put: Thanksgiving is the day when the dominant white culture (and, sadly, most of the rest of the non-white but non-indigenous population) celebrates the beginning of a genocide that was, in fact, blessed by the men we hold up as our heroic founding fathers.

The first president, George Washington, in 1783 said he preferred buying Indians' land rather than driving them off it because that was like driving "wild beasts" from the forest. He compared Indians to wolves, "both being beasts of prey, tho' they differ in shape." Thomas Jefferson” president #3 and author of the Declaration of Independence, which refers to Indians as the "merciless Indian Savages" — was known to romanticize Indians and their culture, but that didn't stop him in 1807 from writing to his secretary of war that in a coming conflict with certain tribes, "[W]e shall destroy all of them."


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 Quoting: Lisa*Lisa


Lisa,

I really appreciate your words...as both my husband and little boy are registered Cherokee. But, there is also the fact that many Natives were forced into Christianity...losing their own heritage and 'roots,' if you will.

I mean no ill-will. You have a good heart.

Thank you.

hf
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1776 - ILLUMINATI

Most Indian wars were after 1775
[link to en.wikipedia.org]

After taking all the territories out west Washington-Freemasons next began the Civil War to take states' sovergiety.
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The Indians were brutal people. Lisa/Lisa has been watching too many Kevin Costner movies.

Indians showed no mercy upon other tribes, They did things to their POWs thats never been documented amongst white people
They practiced spiritism that led to frightening demonic possession, like voudou and the lifestyle was harsh and not something anyone would want

People have the rose colored glasses, like expecting to see Kevin Costner wearing Indian skins and riding over the plains, And hes going to sweep a woman off her feet and into his teepee.

Well how pleasant is that with no baths, showers, heat, air conditioning and bug control?

It wasnt Romantic at all. Hollywood made it seem romantic, it wasnt.
 Quoting: APOLLYON ILLUMINATUS


Exactly right Apollo!! Good karma!!
 Quoting: Chosen


Some more FOR YOU Lisa...
common practice for young indian male to pass initiation...nothing special....starve in wilderness for 10-20 days until "guiding spirit" shows up...you know in form of wolf or bear or eagle...then they'd make a deal...boy gives his respects to spirit....spirit. gives "support " to a boy.for life..then boy officially becomes a man. If you understand this....you will undestand why David was erasing whole nations in his wake.
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you people like to make it out that "white man" is this evil sick devil and everyone else are these clean kind gentle people.lmao take a look at africa,mexico lmao.i like how you people love to skip over facts like,the american indians were some of the most savage people in america.
they war'd with there own kind, ie other tribes.they would slaughter and war with other tribes daily.now all the sudden they were these flower picking saints....GO BLOW SMOKE UP SOMEONE ELSES ASS!!!!!!!!!!!.
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please forgive lisa lisa, she knows not what she does. fyi, Christians worked as missionaries to try to save many of the 'native americans' but heaven forbid anyone look at that in a positive light.... most see that as 'oppression'.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 3840599


And, by the way, I"m a white christian too, I don't hate my own people, but I hate the fact that they don't teach the truth.

Stop the hate!
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You'll appreciate America a lot more when you know the WHOLE truth. There was a divine plan in the colonization of this continent.
[link to www.amazon.com]
[link to petermarshallministries.com]
Once you see God's hand in it, you'll have a better perspective. And the atrocities will, on the one hand, seem all the more horrible (because that's not what God brought us here to do), yet, on the other hand, you'll see that they do NOT define us.

Oh, and MOST of the Indians died long before they ever saw a white man. Disease ACCIDENTALLY brought by Spaniards in the early 1500's, reduced the population 98-99% long before Anglo-Americans showed up. Much of the contient was empty through NO fault of our own, when we arrived. [link to www.amazon.com]
(I must admit, I was shocked when I learned that the "virgin wilderness" colonized by our forefathers, was actually just the old overgrowth of a recently collapsed civilization).

Finally, although Indian wars and atrocities were real (even BEFORE we arrived... they were horrible to each other), nevertheless Hollywood has tended to make it look as if it was ALL hostile. However, the VERY LARGE number of white Americans who carry some Indian blood, suggests that in the real world, the encounters were often more peaceful, if you take my meaning.
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What we did to the American Indians was horrible.

Thanksgiving was a time when we got along with the Indians because we needed their help.


Dont forget there are tribes up in Canada and the Canadians did NOT treat them much differently.


americans will get pay back tho...happening now
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 4453934


None of the Americans will get payback for what was done to the Indians. What was done to the Indians is not different that what we are doing to many other cultures worldwide. Then it was "the redskin". Now, we beat down and violate the rights of the "evil white Christians" in favor of blacks and minorities.

When are you people, of all colors as God made you, going to understand that its not about the color of your skin that makes you a member of a certain tribe and that makes you good or evil?

Essentially, it is the immoral greed of man that drives this. To the sheople the elites preach "ENSLAVE THE BLACK MAN!" and they do. Then the elites preach "KILL THE RED MAN!" and they do. Then they preach "KILL THE IRAQIS!" and they do.

Stupid sheople. When will you recognize the common law right of blacks, Iraqis or the "red man" to survive?

I *LOVE* Thanksgiving. It is about the love that Jesus Christ teaches us. A love that transcends borders of all types, tribal, geographic, personal.

The moran pilgrims couldn't survive on their own. To their own detriment, the Indians had compassion, love, and they helped out. All you jerks stoking up the fires of hate against Thanksgiving are simply ripe for the turning. The turning into people of hate.

what about all the love of the Indians? There are thousands of stories of people having compassion for the Indians and helping them.

It was *GOVERNMENT* that massacred the Indians. They did with with fear and propaganda. For it is government that commits genocide and the subsequent theft, murder, rape and massacre of people.

The white man is not the enemy for without government he cannot kill in massive numbers.

The black man is not the enemy for without government behind the slave trade it cannot be perpetuated.

The muslim is not the enemy because without government and media propaganda his terrorist actions are not multiplied.

You people are sick, weak and stupid. I declare myself free, under common law. Let you poor sick bastards wallow in your own self pity about the Indians and whatever the next tribe is that is about to be poisoned, raped and murdered.

Myself, I will fight government which is violence embodied and chaos controlled.

They keep you guessing by misdirecting you. Focus you poor sheople and you will see the real enemy in the halls of government that were built using your tax money.

Poor, poor sheople with no thought of your own. Get a clue and you will get a backbone. Until then, enjoy yoru stupidty because when you actually understand this stuff, that is when you will feel the true guilt of your inactions against the real enemy.
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"Those who don't know history are destined to repeat it."
Edmund Burke


There are no holidays celebrated today that have not lost most or all of their original intent.

Native Americans for the most part do NOT celebrate Thanksgiving for the reasons thought by most. We celebrate on a Native American Day, a feast of sorts, and have for a very long time as well as at our dances.

The Native Americans were treated like animals by the white man for greed just as is happening today with other cultures, period.

My great grandmother was an Indian slave until she married at a very young age and then refused to admit to anyone outside the family what her heritage was. SAD. Her parents were killed on the trail of tears.

There were some tribes that were not so civilized and could be brutal when their space was encroached upon, however most were a very peaceful people. It is one thing for you to argue in your own home but it's another for an outsider to come in and cause pure chaos with the intention of dividing your family so they can get something you have. This is basically what happened.

What is the saddest part of this particular piece of our history is that we, humans, have continued to repeat the same process for the same purposes over and over with all people in a lot of nations. refer to bold quote above.

Enjoy and be at peace with your family and what you have everyday, not just on holidays.
peace
 Quoting: DoodleBug


Another woman completely destroyed by propaganda. There are so very few real women left these days.

You say peace, but you do not speak of any. You speak only of hate and you only listen to one side of the story. That is not peace, nor is it a sign of intelligence.
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While I understand your post, I also know the atrocities that the white man undertook to give us a new home, as well.

Why we could not live together in harmony is a mystery because even today we cannot do that with our own neighbors INSIDE of these United States!

It's the "idea" of Thanksgiving that we celebrate.. of being thankful for what we have (and I don't care if you want to go back and live in the past I'm very thankful for the family and the freedoms I have TODAY!)

So you can spend the day the way you want to... and I'll spend mine surrounded by family and eating a big turkey and getting a turkey and yam coma... and being THANKFUL for what God has given me and not living in the past! Heck, if that were the case we shouldn't observe all the other holidays (which also have negative aspects, as well)

Just my thoughts and opinion! Although opinions are like armpits... we all have "two" and the both stink!

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Lisa,

thank you for the reminder of what we did to the Native Americans. it was truely horrible and one day we will pay for it.

but what is this jesus talking to the indians business?
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Maybe this will help you ignorant ones to finally learn your true origins.
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You will believe anything!
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Then prove it wrong!
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45 million to 250,000 really is quite incredible, american karma is fucked beyond all recognition.
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It was the British before there was an America. I guess your karma kinda' sucks too!
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 Quoting: Epic Beard Guy


Yeah we do have loads of our own, but I wasn't talkiing about the american people, I was referring to an upper echelon of US society that still bathes in the blood of innocents, quite literally.
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Re: Thanksgiving = Sweeping The Ugly Truth Under the Rug
"Those who don't know history are destined to repeat it."
Edmund Burke


There are no holidays celebrated today that have not lost most or all of their original intent.

Native Americans for the most part do NOT celebrate Thanksgiving for the reasons thought by most. We celebrate on a Native American Day, a feast of sorts, and have for a very long time as well as at our dances.

The Native Americans were treated like animals by the white man for greed just as is happening today with other cultures, period.

My great grandmother was an Indian slave until she married at a very young age and then refused to admit to anyone outside the family what her heritage was. SAD. Her parents were killed on the trail of tears.

There were some tribes that were not so civilized and could be brutal when their space was encroached upon, however most were a very peaceful people. It is one thing for you to argue in your own home but it's another for an outsider to come in and cause pure chaos with the intention of dividing your family so they can get something you have. This is basically what happened.

What is the saddest part of this particular piece of our history is that we, humans, have continued to repeat the same process for the same purposes over and over with all people in a lot of nations. refer to bold quote above.

Enjoy and be at peace with your family and what you have everyday, not just on holidays.
peace
 Quoting: DoodleBug


Another woman completely destroyed by propaganda. There are so very few real women left these days.

You say peace, but you do not speak of any. You speak only of hate and you only listen to one side of the story. That is not peace, nor is it a sign of intelligence.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1073688


And what side would that be?
Please explain and leave your useless personal jabs aside or you lose all credibility.

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