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Thanksgiving = Sweeping The Ugly Truth Under the Rug

 
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Lisa,

thank you for the reminder of what we did to the Native Americans. it was truely horrible and one day we will pay for it.

but what is this jesus talking to the indians business?
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The amusing irony to all this is the same faate is befalling the white man. Divided and conquered by the same jewish people that americans saved in WWII. inevitably, white people are bought off with plastic meaningless badges that supposed mean authority, or a political contribution, and turn against their own race lol.

White man is the indi'ns now... they'll be put on reservations (fema camps), we'll be slaghtered by the "calvary" (DHS, TSA, etc etc) and at the top are al the zionist billionaires.
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Lisa,

thank you for the reminder of what we did to the Native Americans. it was truely horrible and one day we will pay for it.

but what is this jesus talking to the indians business?
 Quoting: MrOysterhead


Get the book called He Walked the Americas.
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actually, the indians are the only TRUE warriors. They are the only ones that actually fought.

Whites: corrupted, bought off, turned agaist white.
Indians fought, conquered.
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The amusing irony to all this is the same faate is befalling the white man. Divided and conquered by the same jewish people that americans saved in WWII. inevitably, white people are bought off with plastic meaningless badges that supposed mean authority, or a political contribution, and turn against their own race lol.

White man is the indi'ns now... they'll be put on reservations (fema camps), we'll be slaghtered by the "calvary" (DHS, TSA, etc etc) and at the top are al the zionist billionaires.
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Maybe this will help you ignorant ones to finally learn your true origins.
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You will believe anything!
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Then prove it wrong!
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Just a story, with no evidence, nothing to prove wrong.
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Have you ever considered that Native American disease strains could have wiped out the new arrivals just as easily as vice versa?

I don't know WHY these things are, they just are. Perhaps destiny?

[link to en.wikipedia.org]
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The epidemic diseases that devastated the New World - measles, smallpox, tuberculosis, influenza, etc - were "crossovers" that had jumped the species barrier from Old World livestock.

Europeans, Africans, and Asians had thousands of years of natural selection for immunity, so even though these disease are still serious, the majority of Old Worlders could shake them off. However, New Worlders had no previous exposure, and suffered 99% fatalities upon first encounter (which is probably what happened back in the Old World too, back before recorded history when the microbes first crossed over into mankind.)

Due to accident of history/biology/geology, there weren't many easily domesticable animals in the New World. Llamas and Alpacas in the mountains of South America, turkeys in Mexico, and that's about it. (Indians had dogs, too, but DNA shows that they brought their dogs from Asia long ago, they weren't separately domesticated here.)

Hence, we had LOT of diseases to give to them, and they only had a few to give to us. (Syphilis is almost certainly a new world disease.)

Drug wise, the damage was more equal. We had alcohol, Indians had tobacco. Both were enshrined in ritual and subject to social controls in their original cultural context. Then when the 2 cultures met, and switched drugs, removing them from their traditional cultural controls, the Indians became alcoholics and the white men got lung cancer...
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Lisa,

thank you for the reminder of what we did to the Native Americans. it was truely horrible and one day we will pay for it.

 Quoting: MrOysterhead


What do you mean,"we"? I didn't do it! I was born long afterwards. So were you.

"The son shall not die for the sin of the father, neither shall the father die for the sin of the son, but let every man die for his OWN sin".

(Lisa, that's in the BIBLE....)
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Lisa,

thank you for the reminder of what we did to the Native Americans. it was truely horrible and one day we will pay for it.

but what is this jesus talking to the indians business?
 Quoting: MrOysterhead


Get the book called He Walked the Americas.
 Quoting: Lisa*Lisa


that idea is completely made up.
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Lisa,

thank you for the reminder of what we did to the Native Americans. it was truely horrible and one day we will pay for it.

 Quoting: MrOysterhead


What do you mean,"we"? I didn't do it! I was born long afterwards. So were you.

"The son shall not die for the sin of the father, neither shall the father die for the sin of the son, but let every man die for his OWN sin".

(Lisa, that's in the BIBLE....)
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excuse me, we as in our forefathers.
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Lisa,

thank you for the reminder of what we did to the Native Americans. it was truely horrible and one day we will pay for it.

but what is this jesus talking to the indians business?
 Quoting: MrOysterhead


Get the book called He Walked the Americas.
 Quoting: Lisa*Lisa


that idea is completely made up.
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There are artifacts to prove it, but you're welcome not to believe it if you wish.
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EVERYDAY people are MURDERED, RAPED, Stolen from and on and on. I STILL celebrate TODAY as I will TOMORROW and the next day along with any holiday of said choosing. It is NOT for others to tell me that I have to do something or can not do something as THEY do not live my life. ONLY I can live my life and decide what is best or most enjoyable or at best, most safe for me and my loved ones.

I and ONLY I choose to celebrate or not celebrate any given day, be it birthday or "recognized" holiday..NOT someone else.
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Lisa,

thank you for the reminder of what we did to the Native Americans. it was truely horrible and one day we will pay for it.

but what is this jesus talking to the indians business?
 Quoting: MrOysterhead


Get the book called He Walked the Americas.
 Quoting: Lisa*Lisa


that idea is completely made up.
 Quoting: MrOysterhead


There are artifacts to prove it, but you're welcome not to believe it if you wish.
 Quoting: Lisa*Lisa


the ancient aliens guys have artifacts to prove their theories too......
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All peoples are evil.

The Indians are evil, as are the white, black, hispanic, asian and any others that might exist.

This whole planet is full of lies and filth...


My Thanksgiving Prayer:

Dear Heavenly Father,

If it be your will, we know you will wipe out the human species with great wrath and in an instant. We trust in you, and your power, that you are capable of causing the sun to pulse and cook all life on this planet. If you must also destroy the physical bodies of your own few people in order to purge this filth, we submit willingly. We bow to the authority of your son Jesus Christ. Amen.
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are you a mormon lisa? because you have cited their beliefs. do you believe the angel moroni was sent by God? if you do then you best go convert to mormonism pronto.

if not... then the angel was of satan and should be rejected. there is no gray here honey. make a stand lisa... no more games.
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No, I am not a Mormom, I've never read any of their publications. I'm a Christian and don't belong to any church or group. I use my own brain to think and I let the Holy Spirit teach me truth.

So, you hate mormons too? That's a pity.
 Quoting: Lisa*Lisa


You are delusional. The human mind is influenced on everything it sees and hears. You are using your brain that is influenced by the "knowledge" that you are reading or hearing. That doesn't make what you are reading or hearing TRUE knowledge. There is more deception flying around than the mind can even comprehend. Just because you agree with whatever knowledge you are influenced by, doesn't make it truth.
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All peoples are evil.

The Indians are evil, as are the white, black, hispanic, asian and any others that might exist.

This whole planet is full of lies and filth...


My Thanksgiving Prayer:

Dear Heavenly Father,

If it be your will, we know you will wipe out the human species with great wrath and in an instant. We trust in you, and your power, that you are capable of causing the sun to pulse and cook all life on this planet. If you must also destroy the physical bodies of your own few people in order to purge this filth, we submit willingly. We bow to the authority of your son Jesus Christ. Amen.
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Wow!
Way
to
cloud
up
and
rain
all-over
a
great
holiday
(with
pure
bull-shit!)

Note;
what
happened
in
America
between
the
"natives"
and
the
"settlers"
is
nothing
more
than
"survival
of
the
fittest."

It's
histori
c-it
happened
all-over
the
world
through-out
history

so
stop
being
a
complete
idiot
by
picking
on
just
"one"
particular-point
on
the
historical-
timeline!

Enjoy
the
Holiday
.
iStarbug

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How amazingly unlikely is your birth,
And pray that there's intelligent life somewhere up in space,
'Cause there's bugger all down here on Earth.

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The Anglos followed God's rules and destroyed the heathen
before them when they entered their promised land.

If the Anglos had converted and miscegenated with the Indians
instead of destroying them, the USA would be Mexico.




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All peoples are evil.

The Indians are evil, as are the white, black, hispanic, asian and any others that might exist.

This whole planet is full of lies and filth...


My Thanksgiving Prayer:

Dear Heavenly Father,

If it be your will, we know you will wipe out the human species with great wrath and in an instant. We trust in you, and your power, that you are capable of causing the sun to pulse and cook all life on this planet. If you must also destroy the physical bodies of your own few people in order to purge this filth, we submit willingly. We bow to the authority of your son Jesus Christ. Amen.
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putin
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This is a good prayer for the Thanksgiving table. To give thanks for God's power to destroy wickedness. Why do you think people get excited about DOOM? It is because they are so sick of the wickedness in the world, and even unknowingly in themselves, that they are subconsciously hoping something will purge it. I recommend we all use a prayer like this on Thanksgiving day.
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so lets see.

I guess then we should be opposed to all Christan holidays as well, considering the Crusades.

Or, for that matter, we should also be opposed to Veterans day, god knows how many people those guys killed.

Oh, don't forget how Great Britian took over indiginous populations of Australia and New Zealand.

Through colonization many other populations were "exterminated" too.

How come we don't get up in arms when a particular animal moves into a habitat and pushes out others, survival of the fittest style? Do these animals get together and claim ethnic cleansing?


lol, just because we have consciousness; it doesn't make us anything more than animals. We're still survivalistic until the whole of the world removes scarcity. Which is not going to happen until all the world decides together that we are but of one culture and creed.

2 cents.
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someone does'nt know there history and stocks very well.just alil fyi,american indians are made up of WHITE and MONGOLOID stocks.the white man was in america way b4 the indians were even thought of.it was white and mongoloid man that made it possible for there to even be "indians".

another fyi,i like how you people like to make it out that "white man" is this evil sick devil and everyone else are these clean kind gentle people.lmao take a look at africa,mexico lmao.i like how you people love to skip over facts like,the american indians were some of the most savage people in america.
they war'd with there own kind, ie other tribes.they would slaughter and war with other tribes daily.now all the sudden they were these flower picking saints....GO BLOW SMOKE UP SOMEONE ELSES ASS!!!!!!!!!!!.
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please forgive lisa lisa, she knows not what she does. fyi, Christians worked as missionaries to try to save many of the 'native americans' but heaven forbid anyone look at that in a positive light.... most see that as 'oppression'.
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Ha, ha, I certainly don't look at that in a positive light. Convert them to what? Heathens like the Europeans?
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are you a mormon lisa? because you have cited their beliefs. do you believe the angel moroni was sent by God? if you do then you best go convert to mormonism pronto.

if not... then the angel was of satan and should be rejected. there is no gray here honey. make a stand lisa... no more games.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 3840599


No, I am not a Mormom, I've never read any of their publications. I'm a Christian and don't belong to any church or group. I use my own brain to think and I let the Holy Spirit teach me truth.

So, you hate mormons too? That's a pity.
 Quoting: Lisa*Lisa


You are delusional. The human mind is influenced on everything it sees and hears. You are using your brain that is influenced by the "knowledge" that you are reading or hearing. That doesn't make what you are reading or hearing TRUE knowledge. There is more deception flying around than the mind can even comprehend. Just because you agree with whatever knowledge you are influenced by, doesn't make it truth.
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I also want to add that you are singling out a single race when every race is responsible for genocide. Stop singling out and maybe you will start to see the big picture of the corruption in this life.
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are you a mormon lisa? because you have cited their beliefs. do you believe the angel moroni was sent by God? if you do then you best go convert to mormonism pronto.

if not... then the angel was of satan and should be rejected. there is no gray here honey. make a stand lisa... no more games.
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No, I am not a Mormom, I've never read any of their publications. I'm a Christian and don't belong to any church or group. I use my own brain to think and I let the Holy Spirit teach me truth.

So, you hate mormons too? That's a pity.
 Quoting: Lisa*Lisa


You are delusional. The human mind is influenced on everything it sees and hears. You are using your brain that is influenced by the "knowledge" that you are reading or hearing. That doesn't make what you are reading or hearing TRUE knowledge. There is more deception flying around than the mind can even comprehend. Just because you agree with whatever knowledge you are influenced by, doesn't make it truth.
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I also want to add that you are singling out a single race when every race is responsible for genocide. Stop singling out and maybe you will start to see the big picture of the corruption in this life.
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That's right. All races are evil.
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Maybe this will help you ignorant ones to finally learn your true origins.
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You will believe anything!
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Then prove it wrong!
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Just a story, with no evidence, nothing to prove wrong.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 422465


That's cuz you know it's true and you can't argue against the real truth.It will stand on it's own merits.
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"Those who don't know history are destined to repeat it."
Edmund Burke


There are no holidays celebrated today that have not lost most or all of their original intent.

Native Americans for the most part do NOT celebrate Thanksgiving for the reasons thought by most. We celebrate on a Native American Day, a feast of sorts, and have for a very long time as well as at our dances.

The Native Americans were treated like animals by the white man for greed just as is happening today with other cultures, period.

My great grandmother was an Indian slave until she married at a very young age and then refused to admit to anyone outside the family what her heritage was. SAD. Her parents were killed on the trail of tears.

There were some tribes that were not so civilized and could be brutal when their space was encroached upon, however most were a very peaceful people. It is one thing for you to argue in your own home but it's another for an outsider to come in and cause pure chaos with the intention of dividing your family so they can get something you have. This is basically what happened.

What is the saddest part of this particular piece of our history is that we, humans, have continued to repeat the same process for the same purposes over and over with all people in a lot of nations. refer to bold quote above.

Enjoy and be at peace with your family and what you have everyday, not just on holidays.
peace
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Another woman completely destroyed by propaganda. There are so very few real women left these days.

You say peace, but you do not speak of any. You speak only of hate and you only listen to one side of the story. That is not peace, nor is it a sign of intelligence.
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And what side would that be?
Please explain and leave your useless personal jabs aside or you lose all credibility.
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Do you know why the white people killed Native Americans and took over their land? That's what nations did back then. It didn't matter what race you were, what skin color you were, white men were more powerful at the time, so that stimulated their ability to conquer. Things were not like they are now. If you were weak, you were taken over. That's just how things were. The slaughter of the Native Americans was inevitable. To focus your hatred on the white men is ignorant. You are ignoring the entire time period. You are narrowing your view of history. You are ignoring life, and the way it works. You are even further narrowing your view if you were to blame men in general. Not all white men are power hungry conquerers.... It is senseless to go around hating white men all day because of the few power hungry among us. It is a part of life.

Most of all, you are ignoring the ENORMOUS good among white men. White men have brought a great understanding to this world through fields such as medicine, science, and mathematics and in-turn has helped this world become a much better place for us to live.

You hate because you are afraid of us. You watch these rape commercials, read of rape on the news, listen to your fear filled hateful music, listen to your feminist propaganda all day, marxist propaganda, MSM propaganda. It has blinded you, and so many others from the truth that there is an incredible amount of good among white men. Instead now, you are only capable of seeing the bad. I don't know you? Wrong, I know people like you very well, I have studied them very thoroughly, and I know them when I see them.

It saddens me to see someone in your condition.
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I'm so sad at the lack of care or compassion that so many have displayed in this thread twords the american indians and what happened to them. It's a pity that so many hearts are cold twords the suffering of others.

Who cares, it's turkey day and I want to eat my turkey.

They were pagan heathens anyway.

They were savages and it wasn't their land anyway.

The list goes on and on.........

Makes me sad, the sheeple attitude that justifies the wrong that was done. It will happen again too, in the future, but this time it will be the christians and all who are faithful to God.

They will come for us, and again, it will be justified and swept under the rug as people celebrate our extermination.

"Father forgive them for they know not what they do".

:weep:
 Quoting: Lisa*Lisa


It's sad for the Indians, because they were tricked and deceived...
The Meso-American's/Ancient Indians, Mayan Indian tribes etc..had a legend about an "all knowing good white man" which predated the discoveries of John Smith, the Father of Mormonism.

The worship of a feathered serpent deity, first found documentation in Teotihuacan in the first century BCE, which
alludes to as early as the "Late Preclassic" period.

This was also during the same time-line as the Greco-Roman Empire, same time-line that the Septuagint , (G), "1" was translated.
It began with Alexander the Great's desire to translate the Torah, which was an abomination.. adding it to his "great library of knowledge" of good and evil..
bat

Veneration of the figure appears to have spread throughout Meso-America by the Late Classic period 600–900 CE..

This existing legend is what caused the Mormons to make the connection to Quetzalcoatl..

www.britannica.com/EBchecked/topic/487168/Quetzalcoatl
[link to en.wikipedia.org]

It should not be surprising, the Mayan Calendar is set-up reflecting the Hebrew Calendar:
beginning of months/Spring Nissan-Pesach and Beginning of years/Fall/Tishrei-Rosh Hashanah

The Feathered Serpent time-lines were set-up during Equinox time lines of Spring and Fall as well..
The second coming of the white man proved death and destruction of their empire..
That which they worshiped killed them..

Concerning the "transgression of desolation" that went to the four corners of earth carried by the messengers of old did spread forth as you can see what happened to the Mayan's empire.

The Hebrew Bible alterations and embellishments began the 2300 years anniversary days time-line of the trampling..
Daniel Chapter 8.

The end of the abomination isn't far off..but the grand finale must come first...

I wrote a research article on this some years back and I'll post link it if your interested..
siren2

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What's the point of dredging this up?

Groups of peoples have been uprooted from "their land" since Adam and Eve. Looking back, it's never "fair."

Whatever was done to those already living in North America when the Europeans came, the people responsible have been dead for at least 200 years. I'm reminded of black Americans today, demanding cash "reparations" for slavery that ended 150 years ago.

Also, let's not forget that "native Americans" killed a lot of Europeans as well.

Geez, let it go already.

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All peoples are evil.

The Indians are evil, as are the white, black, hispanic, asian and any others that might exist.

This whole planet is full of lies and filth...


My Thanksgiving Prayer:

Dear Heavenly Father,

If it be your will, we know you will wipe out the human species with great wrath and in an instant. We trust in you, and your power, that you are capable of causing the sun to pulse and cook all life on this planet. If you must also destroy the physical bodies of your own few people in order to purge this filth, we submit willingly. We bow to the authority of your son Jesus Christ. Amen.
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Would you please kill yourself already, and stop spamming this crazy deathwish on every thread?

I recommend something that acts quickly, so quickly that you don't have time to post again.
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I can't believe they hate Native Americans who actually helped the white survive the their first few winters here. So much for gratitude,huh?
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Thanksgiving was the first time aliens contacted our generation. South Park had it right. Why do we draw a turkey as a kid with our hands? 5 planets interconnected through worm holes on cape cod.
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The Indians were brutal people. Lisa/Lisa has been watching too many Kevin Costner movies.

Indians showed no mercy upon other tribes, They did things to their POWs thats never been documented amongst white people
They practiced spiritism that led to frightening demonic possession, like voudou and the lifestyle was harsh and not something anyone would want

People have the rose colored glasses, like expecting to see Kevin Costner wearing Indian skins and riding over the plains, And hes going to sweep a woman off her feet and into his teepee.

Well how pleasant is that with no baths, showers, heat, air conditioning and bug control?

It wasnt Romantic at all. Hollywood made it seem romantic, it wasnt.
 Quoting: APOLLYON ILLUMINATUS


. . . yes they did bathe:
Running Bear:
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GLP