Thanksgiving = Sweeping The Ugly Truth Under the Rug

Ya know...you either did not read my post or do not understand what I said in it.

I DO NOT HATE ANYONE...got that? My grandmother ended up marrying a white man.

The rest of your post does not even pertain to this thread or my post.

BTW, I rarely and I do mean rarely watch television so your other blah blah makes no sense either.

Why should WE get punished for THEIR behavior? Why can't we all just get along, and let by gones be by gones?

Seriously, who gives a shit in this day and age. It won't happen today and it won't happen in the future. Yes it was a BIG BIG mistake in our past but, people don't think or act like the people back then. Time to get over it.

Happy Thanksgiving

Holy shit!?!? I missed that one in the Bible...

Don't you have another false messiah to follow like BAO OP?

Reading a book about the CT Indians about 1968, I found that two starving indians came into a woman's house in Westport, when her husband wasn't home, (during a snow storm) and they took/ate a loaf of bread . THEN residents of Westport and Norwalk sent out a call to New York/Long Island to bring their guns AND HELP THEM WITH THEIR 'REVENGE' !

What follow was a slaughter of the indians in the region. They drove them into the swamps between the two towns and any that came out of the freezing winter waters were SHOT. The rest died from exposure.

What a WONDERFUL way we had of teaching the indians the Christian way of love and forgiveness. Revolted me then; still does !

Eagle

lol, Westport people would do that today to any lower class society member if they still could.

Times haven't changed at all.

That's EXACTLY what you are doing... Judging the entire US for shit that happened hundreds of years ago. You should really waste your time looking for a home in Canada. You people who constantly bash the country, yet reap the benefits and STILL LIVE HERE....if its so bad why don't you move? It's not like you're saying 'wow, we really did some bad things in the past as a nation, but I love my country and am going to TRY MY DAMNDIST to make it better'

No, instead you do what every woman does. Bitch with no solutions.

Seriously, just move out of the country and all your false guilt will wash away. Cause we're such terrible people. Did you post this from OWS?

Many whites are aware of the predictions that the whites would come and destroy our way of life, very few have heard the rest of the story because it has been carefully concealed by your religious and political leaders, who whipped you into a fury of hatred and bloodshed. Not only did we see you coming, we saw you going, and it won't be long now before you destroy yourselves and most everyone else with your ways. It won't be pretty, either.
As for thanksgiving, go to hell and the sooner the better

..an old oppressed and angry indian

It's a bitter truth, the pilgrims didn't bring Jesus to the "heathens", they brought the bloody sword of the Church of England. So much for sweet talking political propaganda like "God bless America".
" But I am afraid that somehow, as the serpent seduced Eve by its cunning, YOUR minds might be corrupted away from the sincerity and the chastity that are due the Christ. 4 For, as it is, if someone comes and preaches a Jesus other than the one we preached, or YOU receive a spirit other than what YOU received, or good news other than what YOU accepted, YOU easily put up [with him]..... For such men are false apostles, deceitful workers, transforming themselves into apostles of Christ. And no wonder, for Satan himself keeps transforming himself into an angel of light.  It is therefore nothing great if his ministers also keep transforming themselves into ministers of righteousness. But their end shall be according to their works." 2Cor11:3

jesus was probably in the americas during that 30 year period he was mia. mia = messiah in america.

you know the story. his birth was so significant that herod was performing mass genocide to extinguish the baby jesus. the heavans literally shined in jesus' honor and wise men came from afar to celebrate his birth.

and then...nothing.

then a year later...nothing.

then 10 years later...umm nothing.

then 20 years later...still nothing.

then 30 years later...finally, he gets to work...

why is someone who is so important in history, so missing from it? heres a hint...30 x 12 = 360

Riddle
me
this;

why
is
the
Bible
accepted
as
the
authority
on
all
things
GOD?

Seriously,
it
is
full
of
contradictions-it's
obvious
that
agendas
galore
fill
it's
pages!

Think
about
this;
would
an
all-powerful,
all-knowing
GOD
really
trust
man
with
his
legacy
(even
man's
own
salvation?)

No!
Of
course
not.

What
such
a
deity
would
do
(this
is
actually
in
the
Bible-OT)
is
implant
(innately)
in
man-
(a)
a
moral-compass
(b)
a
process
of
logic
&
reasoning
&
the
free-will
to
decide
for
himself.

So,
it's
not
a
man-made
Bible
you
should
trust
but
rather
your
moral-compass
and
your
logic
and
reasoning
abilities
(your
GOD-given
gifts.)

I am of the same mind here..it is sad and horrible that so many Indians died but..look at the other facts that the Native Americans had died in large numbers not only in America but South America at the hand of the SPANISH. They died of small pox, and other communicable diseases that the SPANISH carried here long before the Pilgrims. And the fact that the Natives were killing each other off in Tribal disputes that we cannot have facts to because they had no written language. We still don't know what really killed off the Anasazi but it wasn't the Pilgrims or the White Man..Despite their successful culture, the Anasazi way of life declined in the 1300s, probably because of drought and intertribal warfare.
So go on about how "EVIL" we were to bring Christianity to America Lisa.. And South America.. remember Pizarro btw.. and Hawaii.. ok so that is ok because the Hawaiian culture was so cute and hey who doesn't like Poi.. and oh then there is Africa..I suppose we need to pay reparation to the Native American Indians and the Africa's where culture is sooooo wonderful (don't get me started).
Bad premise and try for a minute living in a teepee and counting on the fall Buffalo kill to make it through the winter..no hot water no electrical grid.. geez.. like America is so bad.. all those horrible Christian Holidays.. like Christmas and Easter. Go on Lisa you are digging yourself a very deep hole.

If you're Bible pounder, then you must believe God created everything. That includes HIS laws of nature. Lets start on the micro level.

DNA. 2 traits are present during conception, but only the dominant trait remains. When a biological entity enters the blood stream, it is either killed off by our good anti-bodies, or it's stronger and infects our body...we get sick. Why? because the stronger bacteria prevailed.

Nature- survival of the fittest. A mother cub will abandon the weakest cub if its a detriment to the rest. Cruel? Seems that way, but that's God's law...that's how life is created and destroyed. If everything was harmonic in that particular way, there would be over population.

Now comes man, who all throughout history has done just this. Now in the age of 'feelings' we reject anything of the sort, yet is completely opposite of our nature and creation.

If you have a problem with Darwinism, take it up with God. There's a reason for everything, including why despite all ethnicities were created around the same time and equally (yes some disagree with that) Europeans advanced incredibly further than anyone else. Why? Again, ask God...He's the creator, and the laws of nature were put in place by He whom you praise.

Not only are you a douche for not realizing I was being sarcastic, but a full-fledged vagina for writing your BS like a ghey poem.

Lisa, you plainly fail to discern what's going on here. Innocent white people now alive today, are very sick and f***ing tired of endlessly being blamed for everything that's wrong ith the world, and most especially, being blamed for things that were done by *other white people* before we were even born -- slavery, Indian genocide, crusades, whatever. For additional irony, a lot of those white folks actually have some American Indian ancestry in their lineage somewhere.

Here's the psychology of it: When one is falsely blamed, over and over and over, for some atrocity, after a while when that atrocity is mentioned, your first reaction ceases to be compassion and sorrow, and instinctively becomes DEFENSE instead.

For example, when the shooting spree happened to Gabrielle Giffords et al, a certain Christian I know, MOURNED over the fact that endless years of gun-control activism had blunted his ability to have compassion: "I know my first reaction should have been prayer, sorrow, compassion... but years of getting bludgeoned by the anti-gunners has warped me: my first reaction was, "Here we go again, the bastards are going to use this to disarm the good guys..." That was his automatic reflex, even though he didn't WANT to feel that way.

And so it is with race-blaming. Whites who were deeply saddened about the atrocities of the past when they first learned of them as children, start to take on a very different attitude when they find that they, themselves, are being wrongfully blamed for it today, just because they're white. They first become defensive -- "Hey, don't look at me, I didn't do it!", and later on, after that doesn't work, contemptuous and dismissive as you see on this thread. Their eventual attitude is, "Well, if [aggrieved group X] is so wickedly unfair, as to blame me for something I didn't do, I guess they aren't very nice people after all. Maybe they had it coming... Maybe they were brutal themselves..." And of course, if they look into the history, they'll find that indeed, those groups WERE quite brutal: Indians genocided other Indians, Blacks enslaved other Blacks, etc, LONG before Whites showed up, and so forfeit all claim of moral superiority.

So eat your turkey and give thanks to God already.

The
joke
is
on
you.

Oh
and
how
lame
to
try
and
shift
the
focus
from
point
to
incidentals.

For
the
record
scummy
my
"Apple"
keyboard
fails
to
space
between
letters'/words
so
I
scripted
it
in
what
I
considered
an
acceptable
format.

I
suppose
I
could
have
gone
"all
Hebrew"
on
you
and
created
one
big
blob
paragraph.

But
I
know
your
type-you
would
bitch
either
way
(because,
you
can't
stay
on
topic.)

Take
your
meds
goof!

That really is a load of rubbish.

The Puritan Christians who created the British American Colonies made the treaty and had thanksgiving with the native Indians (so-named by Columbus the Spanish Catholic butcher). See: William Penn, founder of Pennsylvania.

Before the colonists is when the Natives had problems with Spain. Acting on orders of the pope's Spanish inquisition the natives were subjugated and Africans brought to all the Americas.
[link to en.wikipedia.org]
(see also: history of Haiti at CIA factbook)
[link to www.reformation.org]
[link to www.archive.org]

Then after the American Revolution the new masonic govt had numerous Indian was. Most Indian wars were after 1775. Again the Cap[ital in Washington was founded by Freemasons and the Catholic Church in the Catholic colony Maryland.

So this was not the Americans rather the pope's empire, as usual.
[link to www.manataka.org]

Fact of the matter is the Indians, already "were" worshiping in the Meso-Americas..
They worshiped the same morning star the Christian's worshiped..they just did things literally..

OP MIA. Imagine that.

Indeed. I'm eager to see her response to my post of 12:37 PM

Natalie Portman opening her wormhole...."Will you open your wormhole Natalie Portman?"

I also have sympathy for the way Native Americans were treated by whites in this country. It was not something to be proud of. But what race of humans has not done the same thing at some time throughout their history?

And then I wonder who wiped out the people that were in North America before them. Couldn't have been what we call "Native Americans" currently - could it? (Sarcasm).

The oldest human remains discovered thus far in North America are Northern European Caucasoid. And who knows? These early Northern Europeans in America probably wiped out whoever was before them and so on, and so on.

Humans. We are what we are. Though you'd think that after all this time we would learn something somewhere along the line.

I'm just getting tired of someone always trying to destroy our family holidays every Halloween, Thanksgiving, Christmas, and Easter. The holidays are what we make of them.

So Happy Thanksgiving everyone and here's hoping you still have something to be thankful for. Enjoy your family time and concentrate on the good things in your life.

I get you. BUT, much like celebrating 'Columbus Day' some holidays are 'weird!

I grew up celebrating ALL of that. (stupid ME!)

I agree, for me, holidays are for me and my family!

We are LOVE!!!

Thanks to you!

If I felt like replying, I would. The fact is that I"ve been spending time with my family this afternoon, so sorry if that's not acceptable to you.

There is just too much hate around here, and I don't want to absorb it. So when people get really nasty with me, like now, I just leave for a while instead of returning the hate, I just let it go.

None of the nasty comments here have changed my mind one bit. Alot of words have been put into my mouth, things I never said or implied, and I don't bother responding to insults and lies, or nasty posts.

I said that the things that happened should be remembered and not forgotten or twisted around in history books to make it look like something that it wasn't, and that's the truth. I believe in truth, even if it isn't nice or pretty.

Have a great day....I'm going to go enjoy the rest of mine.

you tell the truth.quit painting the indians in this holy saint light.they worship the earth and idols,not god.god clearly states not to worship any image,and no other gods b4 him.indians worship the sun,earth,water,nature,animals and so on....get a clue.now you tell the truth,you hate whitey don't ya?

the spanish are white stock,just a diffrent culture base.there are mixed spanish today tho.mutts.but most parts of spain are still white stock based.the thing to make clear here tho is indians are being painted as these kind soft touch love is all bs.so far from the TRUTH as lisa likes to put it.sure there were some kind ones but alot of the tribes were very brutal.hint take alook at the crow....

The thread has certainly evoked strong emotions.

I have lived where the pilgrims landed and their descendants all think they are far above other people. They are blue-bloods so to speak and mostly rich.

There are an estimated 35 million Pilgrim descendants in this country, according to professional genealogists. They can't ALL be rich. The only 2 I have ever known, were hardworking middle class.