***RED ALERT*** The bond markets all throughout Europe are STARTING TO COLLAPSE!!! | |
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JD2011 (OP) User ID: 4557471 United States 11/15/2011 01:47 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | And this for Greece: Greek conservatives set themselves on a collision course with the European Commission on Tuesday, refusing its request to sign a pledge to meet the terms of a bailout designed to save the country from bankruptcy and safeguard the euro zone. [link to www.cnbc.com] |
Dease User ID: 1505901 United States 11/15/2011 01:50 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | What exactly does this mean will happen? "Be strong and courageous. Do not be afraid or terrified because of them, for the LORD your God goes with you; he will never leave you nor forsake you." - Matthew 22: 37-39 "What good will it be for a man if he gains the whole world, yet forfeits his soul? Or what can a man give in exchange for his soul?" - Galatians 5: 22-23 |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 1436300 United States 11/15/2011 02:20 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Now you are fully seeing the NWO happening before your eyes. How? Greece and Italy are now directly run by the banking cartel. Go look up what these two guys used to do before becoming the leaders of these two countries. What you will see next is a bond haircut for Spain,France etc. These countries will of course agree which will again stop the CDS's from kicking in. (CDS is the insurance one buys on a bond in case of default.) This in turn will bring more austerity where you will see the so-called leaders of these countries step down and being replaced by bankers. I guess the elite are tired of pouring money into the puppet leaders they set up to do their bidding. I guess its a nuasance to always trying to keep them in line. Now the elite are putting their people directly into power. |
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<<FOCUS HARDER>> User ID: 660580 United States 11/15/2011 02:36 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Now you are fully seeing the NWO happening before your eyes. How? Greece and Italy are now directly run by the banking cartel. Go look up what these two guys used to do before becoming the leaders of these two countries. What you will see next is a bond haircut for Spain,France etc. These countries will of course agree which will again stop the CDS's from kicking in. (CDS is the insurance one buys on a bond in case of default.) This in turn will bring more austerity where you will see the so-called leaders of these countries step down and being replaced by bankers. I guess the elite are tired of pouring money into the puppet leaders they set up to do their bidding. I guess its a nuasance to always trying to keep them in line. Now the elite are putting their people directly into power. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1436300 An educated AC. You should get an account. Smart people are needed on here. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 5313473 United States 11/15/2011 02:36 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | If the interest rate on their bonds goes up to high (usually above 6 to 7%) the govt. won't or can't borrow any money because it is too damn expensive, basically resulting instant default of the nation or massive cuts in spending (DOOM) |
Stu User ID: 3643288 United States 11/15/2011 02:37 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | there are going to be a lot of bodies found in the doorway once the smoke clears _____________________________________ Even the structure of the atom has been found by the mind. Therefore the mind is subtler than the atom. That which is behind the mind, namely the individual soul, is subtler than the mind. -Ramana |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 1315838 United States 11/15/2011 02:39 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Now you are fully seeing the NWO happening before your eyes. How? Greece and Italy are now directly run by the banking cartel. Go look up what these two guys used to do before becoming the leaders of these two countries. What you will see next is a bond haircut for Spain,France etc. These countries will of course agree which will again stop the CDS's from kicking in. (CDS is the insurance one buys on a bond in case of default.) This in turn will bring more austerity where you will see the so-called leaders of these countries step down and being replaced by bankers. I guess the elite are tired of pouring money into the puppet leaders they set up to do their bidding. I guess its a nuasance to always trying to keep them in line. Now the elite are putting their people directly into power. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1436300 agreed but the ultimate purpose is to cull the Gold and sell it into the market to kill the only competition to the Euro and the Dollar. Gold |
Luna User ID: 4015910 Spain 11/15/2011 02:51 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Now you are fully seeing the NWO happening before your eyes. How? Greece and Italy are now directly run by the banking cartel. Go look up what these two guys used to do before becoming the leaders of these two countries. What you will see next is a bond haircut for Spain,France etc. These countries will of course agree which will again stop the CDS's from kicking in. (CDS is the insurance one buys on a bond in case of default.) This in turn will bring more austerity where you will see the so-called leaders of these countries step down and being replaced by bankers. I guess the elite are tired of pouring money into the puppet leaders they set up to do their bidding. I guess its a nuasance to always trying to keep them in line. Now the elite are putting their people directly into power. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1436300 With all my heart, I do not want to believe this is where we are headed but I just can't shake the feelings that you are absolutely correct. |
JD2011 (OP) User ID: 4557471 United States 11/15/2011 02:53 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | European Debt Yields II: Reloaded. [link to blogs.wsj.com] Remember yesterday when Jonathan wrote about how stock prices were snoring hard while the credit market threw a screaming panic fit two feet away from the stock market’s ear? Well, that’s happening again. Bond yields in Europe are all rising this morning, widening sharply against safe German bunds, while US stocks are down just a bit. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 3023073 United States 11/15/2011 02:53 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Note: Focusing on the 10 bond markets for the three countries below. Keep in mind, a 10 basis pt move is big for these bond markets. Quoting: JD2011 FRANCE: France Govt Oats Btan 10 Yr Oat (GFRN10:IND) Yield up 26 basis pts in one day [link to www.bloomberg.com] Italy: Italy Govt Bonds 10 Year Gross Yield (GBTPGR10:IND) Yield up 37 basis pts; crosses the crucial 7 percent mark [link to www.bloomberg.com] Spain: SPANISH GOVERNMENT GENERIC BONDS - 10 YR NOTE (GSPG10YR:IND) Yield up 23 basis pts today [link to www.bloomberg.com] Those aren't big moves. You do know what a basis point is, don't you? |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 1436300 United States 11/15/2011 04:47 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Now you are fully seeing the NWO happening before your eyes. How? Greece and Italy are now directly run by the banking cartel. Go look up what these two guys used to do before becoming the leaders of these two countries. What you will see next is a bond haircut for Spain,France etc. These countries will of course agree which will again stop the CDS's from kicking in. (CDS is the insurance one buys on a bond in case of default.) This in turn will bring more austerity where you will see the so-called leaders of these countries step down and being replaced by bankers. I guess the elite are tired of pouring money into the puppet leaders they set up to do their bidding. I guess its a nuasance to always trying to keep them in line. Now the elite are putting their people directly into power. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1436300 agreed but the ultimate purpose is to cull the Gold and sell it into the market to kill the only competition to the Euro and the Dollar. Gold Very good point my friend. Just recently I read where the EU countries want Germany to put up their gold in order to assist with the continued bailouts. Merkel said no but the writing is on the wall that this will be the last bullet in the gun to try and fight off collapse. But it will be done purposely. Germany too will fall into the hands of the greedy bankers. |
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oddo User ID: 5358040 Spain 11/15/2011 04:56 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Now you are fully seeing the NWO happening before your eyes. How? Greece and Italy are now directly run by the banking cartel. Go look up what these two guys used to do before becoming the leaders of these two countries. What you will see next is a bond haircut for Spain,France etc. These countries will of course agree which will again stop the CDS's from kicking in. (CDS is the insurance one buys on a bond in case of default.) This in turn will bring more austerity where you will see the so-called leaders of these countries step down and being replaced by bankers. I guess the elite are tired of pouring money into the puppet leaders they set up to do their bidding. I guess its a nuasance to always trying to keep them in line. Now the elite are putting their people directly into power. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1436300 |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 1436300 United States 11/15/2011 05:11 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Huh? Do you mean bond prices or bond yields? The OP is noting the rise in bond YIELDS.... Bond yields is associated with how much it will cost a country to borrow more money. E.g. The more the bond yield climbs on the Italian bonds...The more money it will cost Italy to borrow more money. Pretty ludicrous. |
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