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))BAPHOMET(( User ID: 1470234 United Kingdom 11/16/2011 03:35 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | What makes you so special? How about bringing about world peace or ending disease and suffering? Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1531020 Ding, ding, ding......finally, we have a winner! :) This one gets MY vote!!! That is the mission so i beleieve. Whats definately not important is Jesus having recognition for being Jesus. Infact with all the drivel written about him in the bible, i would think it would be totally counter productive to make such a claim. If normality is the measure of how well adjusted one is to a profoundly sick society, then i dont ever want to be normal. |
GeekOfTheWeek User ID: 1383040 United States 11/16/2011 03:35 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | How about performing some miracles? Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1531020 No you wouldn't dare question the son of god would you? Christ only performed 2 miracles. Water to wine, and raising the dead. All the rest were as those thought He could do. Example, man waiting by the pool. Heal my eyes! Christ asked you believe I can do this? man said yeah lord. So he rubbed some dirt in His hand and spit on it, then rubbed it on the mans eyes, and said "Be it as YOU believe" suddenly the man could see. Christ did not cure him, the man did to himself, believing Christ did it. This is common in all the other healing. And one last one, Peter saw Him walking on water, and wanted to do so too. Christ didn't say, YOU can now walk on water, no He only said "come". Peter is walking on water, and then doubted within himself, and sank like a rock. Did Christ make it so he could walk on water? NO, Peter saw Christ doing it, and believed in Christ, and did it himself. Remember, "if you only had as much faith as a mustard seed"... I love physics. It bonds us eternally, it's what makes our computers work, it's what's in my morning cup of coffee, it's the thing that keeps the universe from vanishing due to lack of belief... |
ObeWayneKenobe (OP) User ID: 1330622 United States 11/16/2011 03:37 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | This is why the last thing 'Jesus' is going to do is come forward and say he's Jesus. I mean really, who is anyone to judge? Surely if there is a saviour out there, it'll be evident through his actions, not because he fits the prerequisites set out by some Joe. Quoting: ))BAPHOMET(( But what if WE meet His "prerequisites" for us, that allows US into His space? Could THAT be possible??? |
))BAPHOMET(( User ID: 1470234 United Kingdom 11/16/2011 03:38 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | How about performing some miracles? Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1531020 No you wouldn't dare question the son of god would you? Christ only performed 2 miracles. Water to wine, and raising the dead. All the rest were as those thought He could do. Example, man waiting by the pool. Heal my eyes! Christ asked you believe I can do this? man said yeah lord. So he rubbed some dirt in His hand and spit on it, then rubbed it on the mans eyes, and said "Be it as YOU believe" suddenly the man could see. Christ did not cure him, the man did to himself, believing Christ did it. This is common in all the other healing. And one last one, Peter saw Him walking on water, and wanted to do so too. Christ didn't say, YOU can now walk on water, no He only said "come". Peter is walking on water, and then doubted within himself, and sank like a rock. Did Christ make it so he could walk on water? NO, Peter saw Christ doing it, and believed in Christ, and did it himself. Remember, "if you only had as much faith as a mustard seed"... I actually remember Jesus being pissed off by all the 'heal me' tomfolery. Something about a lepper deliberately touching him. But anyways, im sure of one thing, and thats the bible is no historical account. If normality is the measure of how well adjusted one is to a profoundly sick society, then i dont ever want to be normal. |
ObeWayneKenobe (OP) User ID: 1330622 United States 11/16/2011 03:40 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | What makes you so special? How about bringing about world peace or ending disease and suffering? Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1531020 Ding, ding, ding......finally, we have a winner! :) This one gets MY vote!!! That is the mission so i beleieve. Whats definately not important is Jesus having recognition for being Jesus. Infact with all the drivel written about him in the bible, i would think it would be totally counter productive to make such a claim. I actually wonder why He would "heal us", when we just go out and do the very things that are making us sick, all over again!?! |
))BAPHOMET(( User ID: 1470234 United Kingdom 11/16/2011 03:41 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | This is why the last thing 'Jesus' is going to do is come forward and say he's Jesus. I mean really, who is anyone to judge? Surely if there is a saviour out there, it'll be evident through his actions, not because he fits the prerequisites set out by some Joe. Quoting: ))BAPHOMET(( But what if WE meet His "prerequisites" for us, that allows US into His space? Could THAT be possible??? Love is all that matters i think, love life and respect. If you have enough of these things then im sure you will become part of christ conciousness and ascend, rapture, get picked up by aliens, whatever. The only thing thats really got to go is this biggoted ideology which has manifest itself in the ego's of religeous types. If normality is the measure of how well adjusted one is to a profoundly sick society, then i dont ever want to be normal. |
BRIEF User ID: 381742 United States 11/16/2011 03:41 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I don't doubt that the voices in her head tell her things...but it's not likely that it's Jesus talking... Quoting: BRIEF Why is THAT not likely?(I'm interested in YOUR perception) It's not likely because of the things she says about reincarnation and animals having souls...the voices she is hearing are deceptive if not demonic... I never forgive and I never forget I am a licensed firearm holder. I will, under protection of law, use lethal force if attacked. |
))BAPHOMET(( User ID: 1470234 United Kingdom 11/16/2011 03:43 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | What makes you so special? How about bringing about world peace or ending disease and suffering? Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1531020 Ding, ding, ding......finally, we have a winner! :) This one gets MY vote!!! That is the mission so i beleieve. Whats definately not important is Jesus having recognition for being Jesus. Infact with all the drivel written about him in the bible, i would think it would be totally counter productive to make such a claim. I actually wonder why He would "heal us", when we just go out and do the very things that are making us sick, all over again!?! Well supposedly if your sick in the sence that you wont just get over it, it's because your karma needs to balance out. Go about being ugly to enough people, and the next time life spits you out your going to be ugly yourself. If normality is the measure of how well adjusted one is to a profoundly sick society, then i dont ever want to be normal. |
))BAPHOMET(( User ID: 1470234 United Kingdom 11/16/2011 03:44 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I don't doubt that the voices in her head tell her things...but it's not likely that it's Jesus talking... Quoting: BRIEF Why is THAT not likely?(I'm interested in YOUR perception) It's not likely because of the things she says about reincarnation and animals having souls...the voices she is hearing are deceptive if not demonic... Who's got Jebus talking to them? If normality is the measure of how well adjusted one is to a profoundly sick society, then i dont ever want to be normal. |
ObeWayneKenobe (OP) User ID: 1330622 United States 11/16/2011 03:44 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | This is why the last thing 'Jesus' is going to do is come forward and say he's Jesus. I mean really, who is anyone to judge? Surely if there is a saviour out there, it'll be evident through his actions, not because he fits the prerequisites set out by some Joe. Quoting: ))BAPHOMET(( But what if WE meet His "prerequisites" for us, that allows US into His space? Could THAT be possible??? Love is all that matters i think, love life and respect. If you have enough of these things then im sure you will become part of christ conciousness and ascend, rapture, get picked up by aliens, whatever. The only thing thats really got to go is this biggoted ideology which has manifest itself in the ego's of religeous types. Well said! |
))BAPHOMET(( User ID: 1470234 United Kingdom 11/16/2011 03:45 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | This is why the last thing 'Jesus' is going to do is come forward and say he's Jesus. I mean really, who is anyone to judge? Surely if there is a saviour out there, it'll be evident through his actions, not because he fits the prerequisites set out by some Joe. Quoting: ))BAPHOMET(( But what if WE meet His "prerequisites" for us, that allows US into His space? Could THAT be possible??? Love is all that matters i think, love life and respect. If you have enough of these things then im sure you will become part of christ conciousness and ascend, rapture, get picked up by aliens, whatever. The only thing thats really got to go is this biggoted ideology which has manifest itself in the ego's of religeous types. Well said! Thank you. If normality is the measure of how well adjusted one is to a profoundly sick society, then i dont ever want to be normal. |
ObeWayneKenobe (OP) User ID: 1330622 United States 11/16/2011 03:45 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | ... Quoting: ObeWayneKenobe Ding, ding, ding......finally, we have a winner! :) This one gets MY vote!!! That is the mission so i beleieve. Whats definately not important is Jesus having recognition for being Jesus. Infact with all the drivel written about him in the bible, i would think it would be totally counter productive to make such a claim. I actually wonder why He would "heal us", when we just go out and do the very things that are making us sick, all over again!?! Well supposedly if your sick in the sence that you wont just get over it, it's because your karma needs to balance out. Go about being ugly to enough people, and the next time life spits you out your going to be ugly yourself. Yep.....I agree! |
BRIEF User ID: 381742 United States 11/16/2011 03:47 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I don't doubt that the voices in her head tell her things...but it's not likely that it's Jesus talking... Quoting: BRIEF Why is THAT not likely?(I'm interested in YOUR perception) It's not likely because of the things she says about reincarnation and animals having souls...the voices she is hearing are deceptive if not demonic... Who's got Jebus talking to them? Nobody in particular...What a clever name...her name is: nobodyinparticular... I never forgive and I never forget I am a licensed firearm holder. I will, under protection of law, use lethal force if attacked. |
))BAPHOMET(( User ID: 1470234 United Kingdom 11/16/2011 03:47 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | It's not likely because of the things she says about reincarnation and animals having souls...the voices she is hearing are deceptive if not demonic... Who's got Jebus talking to them? Nobody in particular...What a clever name...her name is: nobodyinparticular... Lolz If normality is the measure of how well adjusted one is to a profoundly sick society, then i dont ever want to be normal. |
ObeWayneKenobe (OP) User ID: 1330622 United States 11/16/2011 03:48 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I don't doubt that the voices in her head tell her things...but it's not likely that it's Jesus talking... Quoting: BRIEF Why is THAT not likely?(I'm interested in YOUR perception) It's not likely because of the things she says about reincarnation and animals having souls...the voices she is hearing are deceptive if not demonic... Ok, thank you........there for a moment I was worried that what you meant was that 'having Jesus talk to us personally, wasn't possible'!?! Thank goodness you were just referring to NiP........right? |
BRIEF User ID: 381742 United States 11/16/2011 03:49 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I don't doubt that the voices in her head tell her things...but it's not likely that it's Jesus talking... Quoting: BRIEF Why is THAT not likely?(I'm interested in YOUR perception) It's not likely because of the things she says about reincarnation and animals having souls...the voices she is hearing are deceptive if not demonic... Ok, thank you........there for a moment I was worried that what you meant was that 'having Jesus talk to us personally, wasn't possible'!?! Thank goodness you were just referring to NiP........right? Yup, she has many demons speaking to her I imagine... I never forgive and I never forget I am a licensed firearm holder. I will, under protection of law, use lethal force if attacked. |
ObeWayneKenobe (OP) User ID: 1330622 United States 11/16/2011 04:00 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | It's not likely because of the things she says about reincarnation and animals having souls...the voices she is hearing are deceptive if not demonic... Ok, thank you........there for a moment I was worried that what you meant was that 'having Jesus talk to us personally, wasn't possible'!?! Thank goodness you were just referring to NiP........right? Yup, she has many demons speaking to her I imagine... They tell me that when we open up those lines of communication to our Higher Sources, we also open up avenues upon which the Lower frequencies will try to test us as well!?! |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 1332385 United States 11/16/2011 04:03 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Incorrect on all accounts so far. The answer was already provided to us. You can be 100% assured that anyone coming to you claiming to be Jesus is NOT! Jesus gave us all promise, and He won't break it for you or anyone else: Matt:24:23 At that time if anyone says to you, ‘Look, here is the Christ!’ or, ‘There he is!’ do not believe it. 24For false Christs and false prophets will appear and perform great signs and miracles to deceive even the elect—if that were possible. 25See, I have told you ahead of time. 26“So if anyone tells you, ‘There he is, out in the desert,’ do not go out; or, ‘Here he is, in the inner rooms,’ do not believe it. 27For as lightning that comes from the east is visible even in the west, so will be the coming of the Son of Man. |
BRIEF User ID: 381742 United States 11/16/2011 04:04 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | ... Quoting: BRIEF It's not likely because of the things she says about reincarnation and animals having souls...the voices she is hearing are deceptive if not demonic... Ok, thank you........there for a moment I was worried that what you meant was that 'having Jesus talk to us personally, wasn't possible'!?! Thank goodness you were just referring to NiP........right? Yup, she has many demons speaking to her I imagine... They tell me that when we open up those lines of communication to our Higher Sources, we also open up avenues upon which the Lower frequencies will try to test us as well!?! The trick is to just ignore them when you encounter them...don't give them any attention or try and run them off...some can drag you into an endless debate and confuse you if you aren't careful... I never forgive and I never forget I am a licensed firearm holder. I will, under protection of law, use lethal force if attacked. |
))BAPHOMET(( User ID: 1470234 United Kingdom 11/16/2011 04:06 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | ... Quoting: BRIEF It's not likely because of the things she says about reincarnation and animals having souls...the voices she is hearing are deceptive if not demonic... Ok, thank you........there for a moment I was worried that what you meant was that 'having Jesus talk to us personally, wasn't possible'!?! Thank goodness you were just referring to NiP........right? Yup, she has many demons speaking to her I imagine... They tell me that when we open up those lines of communication to our Higher Sources, we also open up avenues upon which the Lower frequencies will try to test us as well!?! Very true, even amoungst the 'saved' are those who can still be corrupted into slinging mud. I guess they lack faith. Tell me more about your higher sources? Do you feel as if you are part of a conciousness network, are other people in there also? If normality is the measure of how well adjusted one is to a profoundly sick society, then i dont ever want to be normal. |
))BAPHOMET(( User ID: 1470234 United Kingdom 11/16/2011 04:07 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | ... Quoting: ObeWayneKenobe Ok, thank you........there for a moment I was worried that what you meant was that 'having Jesus talk to us personally, wasn't possible'!?! Thank goodness you were just referring to NiP........right? Yup, she has many demons speaking to her I imagine... They tell me that when we open up those lines of communication to our Higher Sources, we also open up avenues upon which the Lower frequencies will try to test us as well!?! The trick is to just ignore them when you encounter them...don't give them any attention or try and run them off...some can drag you into an endless debate and confuse you if you aren't careful... The problem i've found of people with a lower frequency is like stupidity, they will drag you down to their level and beat you with expirience. If normality is the measure of how well adjusted one is to a profoundly sick society, then i dont ever want to be normal. |
ObeWayneKenobe (OP) User ID: 1330622 United States 11/16/2011 04:10 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Incorrect on all accounts so far. The answer was already provided to us. You can be 100% assured that anyone coming to you claiming to be Jesus is NOT! Jesus gave us all promise, and He won't break it for you or anyone else: Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1332385 Matt:24:23 At that time if anyone says to you, ‘Look, here is the Christ!’ or, ‘There he is!’ do not believe it. 24For false Christs and false prophets will appear and perform great signs and miracles to deceive even the elect—if that were possible. 25See, I have told you ahead of time. 26“So if anyone tells you, ‘There he is, out in the desert,’ do not go out; or, ‘Here he is, in the inner rooms,’ do not believe it. 27For as lightning that comes from the east is visible even in the west, so will be the coming of the Son of Man. The problem with this advice: Is that it "limits" what Jesus can, or can't, do! So I don't accept it as "written in stone", so-to-speak! |
BRIEF User ID: 381742 United States 11/16/2011 04:10 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | They tell me that when we open up those lines of communication to our Higher Sources, we also open up avenues upon which the Lower frequencies will try to test us as well!?! The trick is to just ignore them when you encounter them...don't give them any attention or try and run them off...some can drag you into an endless debate and confuse you if you aren't careful... The problem i've found of people with a lower frequency is like stupidity, they will drag you down to their level and beat you with expirience. Not if you already know where you stand on the issue at hand...if you are not 100% confident and certain then you may lose that fight, otherwise they have no chance... I never forgive and I never forget I am a licensed firearm holder. I will, under protection of law, use lethal force if attacked. |
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))BAPHOMET(( User ID: 1470234 United Kingdom 11/16/2011 04:21 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | There isn't much I can tell, that you don't already know....:) Do you feel as if you are part of a conciousness network, are other people in there also? Quoting: ))BAPHOMET(( More like a more sensitive awareness than a "consciousness"! ....And yes, many different Energies are involved! If normality is the measure of how well adjusted one is to a profoundly sick society, then i dont ever want to be normal. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 1332385 United States 11/16/2011 04:21 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Incorrect on all accounts so far. The answer was already provided to us. You can be 100% assured that anyone coming to you claiming to be Jesus is NOT! Jesus gave us all promise, and He won't break it for you or anyone else: Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1332385 Matt:24:23 At that time if anyone says to you, ‘Look, here is the Christ!’ or, ‘There he is!’ do not believe it. 24For false Christs and false prophets will appear and perform great signs and miracles to deceive even the elect—if that were possible. 25See, I have told you ahead of time. 26“So if anyone tells you, ‘There he is, out in the desert,’ do not go out; or, ‘Here he is, in the inner rooms,’ do not believe it. 27For as lightning that comes from the east is visible even in the west, so will be the coming of the Son of Man. The problem with this advice: Is that it "limits" what Jesus can, or can't, do! So I don't accept it as "written in stone", so-to-speak! If Jesus Himself tells you: "Do NOT believe it!", then that is not a limitation of His divinity, it's a command. The only other way He would come to you is in a dream or vision, which is nearly just as good as face to face. I realize I'm being literal and technical here with your "what if" scenario. I don't mean to detract from the hypothesis, which is interesting and fun, I just wanted to make this point. |
ObeWayneKenobe (OP) User ID: 1330622 United States 11/16/2011 04:25 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Incorrect on all accounts so far. The answer was already provided to us. You can be 100% assured that anyone coming to you claiming to be Jesus is NOT! Jesus gave us all promise, and He won't break it for you or anyone else: Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1332385 Matt:24:23 At that time if anyone says to you, ‘Look, here is the Christ!’ or, ‘There he is!’ do not believe it. 24For false Christs and false prophets will appear and perform great signs and miracles to deceive even the elect—if that were possible. 25See, I have told you ahead of time. 26“So if anyone tells you, ‘There he is, out in the desert,’ do not go out; or, ‘Here he is, in the inner rooms,’ do not believe it. 27For as lightning that comes from the east is visible even in the west, so will be the coming of the Son of Man. The problem with this advice: Is that it "limits" what Jesus can, or can't, do! So I don't accept it as "written in stone", so-to-speak! If Jesus Himself tells you: "Do NOT believe it!", then that is not a limitation of His divinity, it's a command. The only other way He would come to you is in a dream or vision, which is nearly just as good as face to face. I realize I'm being literal and technical here with your "what if" scenario. I don't mean to detract from the hypothesis, which is interesting and fun, I just wanted to make this point. That's perfectly acceptable that you make THAT point........as long as you allow me to make the point that perhaps it wasn't really Jesus who made that Scripture....but a Pharisee, who maybe didn't want you to search further for the Man!?! |
ObeWayneKenobe (OP) User ID: 1330622 United States 11/16/2011 04:28 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | There isn't much I can tell, that you don't already know....:) Do you feel as if you are part of a conciousness network, are other people in there also? Quoting: ))BAPHOMET(( More like a more sensitive awareness than a "consciousness"! ....And yes, many different Energies are involved! lol......I suspect, you are as in-tune with your Higher Source, as I am mine!?!(and there's NOTHING wrong with that!).... |
))BAPHOMET(( User ID: 1470234 United Kingdom 11/16/2011 04:31 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | There isn't much I can tell, that you don't already know....:) Do you feel as if you are part of a conciousness network, are other people in there also? Quoting: ))BAPHOMET(( More like a more sensitive awareness than a "consciousness"! ....And yes, many different Energies are involved! lol......I suspect, you are as in-tune with your Higher Source, as I am mine!?!(and there's NOTHING wrong with that!).... We're all in this together thats for sure. It's definately growing thats for certain. If normality is the measure of how well adjusted one is to a profoundly sick society, then i dont ever want to be normal. |
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