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DUTCHSINSE — Moon verified to be out of place — ‘Lunar Anomaly’ — Planet X / Tyche / Nemesis would have to be 30AU

 
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I think the Moon being out of position has been caused, or at least is related, to these strange sounds I've been hearing coming from inside the Earth.

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why has no man gone back to the moon in 40+ years?
why has no man crossed the van allen belt in 40+ years?
answer: cause you can't! and never did!
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 5481399

We haven't gone back simply because funding was cut. Apollo was incredibly expensive, and the political will to fund it no longer exists. Your argument from incredulity does not constitute anything substantive.
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why did the space shuttle never go past the van allen belt?
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Because you cant ! You need a ship with a strong magnetic field or your crew would be dead in some days.
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why has no man gone back to the moon in 40+ years?
why has no man crossed the van allen belt in 40+ years?
answer: cause you can't! and never did!
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 5481399

We haven't gone back simply because funding was cut. Apollo was incredibly expensive, and the political will to fund it no longer exists. Your argument from incredulity does not constitute anything substantive.
 Quoting: Astromut


why did the space shuttle never go past the van allen belt?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 5481399


Because you cant ! You need a ship with a strong magnetic field or your crew would be dead in some days.
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damn, nice answer I did not know how they did it, thanks.
makes sense earth has one so to travel threw space you would have to block radiation other than a heavy thick lead capsule.
Then that would mean nasa lied?
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ok thats the official statement on that.
what about how you can only see
as far as a football field
like how far most americans can think?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 5481399


Again, no atmosphere. You are use to see the opacity and scattering of seeing through an atmosphere to judge distances. You don't think about because we are born on a planet with a thick atmosphere. We are use to it and expected. Here are a couple of shots.

[link to history.nasa.gov]
[link to history.nasa.gov]

These hills are a few miles away.

Mars again has an atmosphere. You use the opacity scattering of the air to judge distances. Without air you loose that part of the perspective.
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ok thats the official statement on that.
what about how you can only see
as far as a football field
like how far most americans can think?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 5481399


Again, no atmosphere. You are use to see the opacity and scattering of seeing through an atmosphere to judge distances. You don't think about because we are born on a planet with a thick atmosphere. We are use to it and expected. Here are a couple of shots.

[link to history.nasa.gov]
[link to history.nasa.gov]

These hills are a few miles away.

Mars again has an atmosphere. You use the opacity scattering of the air to judge distances. Without air you loose that part of the perspective.
 Quoting: F=ma


stfu with that, you read that in your shill manual?
so mars has air now?
so mars has an atmosphere like earths?
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Re: DUTCHSINSE — Moon verified to be out of place — ‘Lunar Anomaly’ — Planet X / Tyche / Nemesis would have to be 30AU
why has no man gone back to the moon in 40+ years?
why has no man crossed the van allen belt in 40+ years?
answer: cause you can't! and never did!
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 5481399

We haven't gone back simply because funding was cut. Apollo was incredibly expensive, and the political will to fund it no longer exists. Your argument from incredulity does not constitute anything substantive.
 Quoting: Astromut


why did the space shuttle never go past the van allen belt?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 5481399


It was a low Earth orbit. It is a question of how much fuel it takes. Compare the size of the Saturn V with the Space shuttle. Most of the Saturn V was fuel. It was alos a 3 stage rocket. Stage 1 dropped off at around 60 miles (I can't remember the exact heights). Stage 2 took everything up to low Earth orbit. Stage 3 did the final push toward the Moon. If you want to understand more, you have to study the rocket equation.
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why has no man gone back to the moon in 40+ years?
why has no man crossed the van allen belt in 40+ years?
answer: cause you can't! and never did!
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 5481399

We haven't gone back simply because funding was cut. Apollo was incredibly expensive, and the political will to fund it no longer exists. Your argument from incredulity does not constitute anything substantive.
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where did astrobut go?
did this thread go past his shill skills?
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why has no man gone back to the moon in 40+ years?
why has no man crossed the van allen belt in 40+ years?
answer: cause you can't! and never did!
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 5481399

We haven't gone back simply because funding was cut. Apollo was incredibly expensive, and the political will to fund it no longer exists. Your argument from incredulity does not constitute anything substantive.
 Quoting: Astromut


why did the space shuttle never go past the van allen belt?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 5481399


Because you cant ! You need a ship with a strong magnetic field or your crew would be dead in some days.
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That is true expect Apollo did not spend days in the van allen belts. It spent ~30 minutes.
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ok thats the official statement on that.
what about how you can only see
as far as a football field
like how far most americans can think?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 5481399


Again, no atmosphere. You are use to see the opacity and scattering of seeing through an atmosphere to judge distances. You don't think about because we are born on a planet with a thick atmosphere. We are use to it and expected. Here are a couple of shots.

[link to history.nasa.gov]
[link to history.nasa.gov]

These hills are a few miles away.

Mars again has an atmosphere. You use the opacity scattering of the air to judge distances. Without air you loose that part of the perspective.
 Quoting: F=ma


stfu with that, you read that in your shill manual?
so mars has air now?
so mars has an atmosphere like earths?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 5481399


I did not say air, I said atmosphere. It is mostly carbon dioxide. And some of the Mars landers used parachutes. Phoenix Mars Lander and the Mars rovers had parachutes. Just to name a few.

If you want to actually discuss something stop the childish insults. It proves nothing and adds nothing to your credibility.
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Re: DUTCHSINSE — Moon verified to be out of place — ‘Lunar Anomaly’ — Planet X / Tyche / Nemesis would have to be 30AU
why has no man gone back to the moon in 40+ years?
why has no man crossed the van allen belt in 40+ years?
answer: cause you can't! and never did!
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 5481399

We haven't gone back simply because funding was cut. Apollo was incredibly expensive, and the political will to fund it no longer exists. Your argument from incredulity does not constitute anything substantive.
 Quoting: Astromut


why did the space shuttle never go past the van allen belt?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 5481399


It was a low Earth orbit. It is a question of how much fuel it takes. Compare the size of the Saturn V with the Space shuttle. Most of the Saturn V was fuel. It was alos a 3 stage rocket. Stage 1 dropped off at around 60 miles (I can't remember the exact heights). Stage 2 took everything up to low Earth orbit. Stage 3 did the final push toward the Moon. If you want to understand more, you have to study the rocket equation.
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I just ask why the shuttle never went past the van allen melt.
not the moon.
can you not read my post correctly,
I know my grammar is not good.
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We haven't gone back simply because funding was cut. Apollo was incredibly expensive, and the political will to fund it no longer exists. Your argument from incredulity does not constitute anything substantive.
 Quoting: Astromut


why did the space shuttle never go past the van allen belt?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 5481399


It was a low Earth orbit. It is a question of how much fuel it takes. Compare the size of the Saturn V with the Space shuttle. Most of the Saturn V was fuel. It was alos a 3 stage rocket. Stage 1 dropped off at around 60 miles (I can't remember the exact heights). Stage 2 took everything up to low Earth orbit. Stage 3 did the final push toward the Moon. If you want to understand more, you have to study the rocket equation.
 Quoting: F=ma


I just ask why the shuttle never went past the van allen melt.
not the moon.
can you not read my post correctly,
I know my grammar is not good.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 5481399


The shuttle didn't even have the delta-V needed to go past the van allen belt, it was designed exclusively for use in low earth orbit.
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Because you say so? Sorry bud, that's not how it works. Come back when you can offer something substantive.
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why has no man gone back to the moon in 40+ years?
why has no man crossed the van allen belt [sic] in 40+ years?
answer: cause you can't! and never did!
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 5481399

That is substantive?

It's just the answer you prefer, not the answer you can proof.

why did the space shuttle never go past the van allen belt?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 5481399

Same problem again.
For some reason you presume there would be a reason to do so.

Your presumptions are not evidence.

so mars has air now?
so mars has an atmosphere like earths?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 5481399

No, Mars has an atmosphere quite unlike Earth's.
It's still rather more substantial than the Moon's though.

Were you sequestered for your whole life or something, we have known that Mars has an atmosphere since the 19th century.
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ok thats the official statement on that.
what about how you can only see
as far as a football field
like how far most americans can think?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 5481399


Again, no atmosphere. You are use to see the opacity and scattering of seeing through an atmosphere to judge distances. You don't think about because we are born on a planet with a thick atmosphere. We are use to it and expected. Here are a couple of shots.

[link to history.nasa.gov]
[link to history.nasa.gov]

These hills are a few miles away.

Mars again has an atmosphere. You use the opacity scattering of the air to judge distances. Without air you loose that part of the perspective.
 Quoting: F=ma


stfu with that, you read that in your shill manual?
so mars has air now?
so mars has an atmosphere like earths?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 5481399


I did not say air, I said atmosphere. It is mostly carbon dioxide. And some of the Mars landers used parachutes. Phoenix Mars Lander and the Mars rovers had parachutes. Just to name a few.

If you want to actually discuss something stop the childish insults. It proves nothing and adds nothing to your credibility.
 Quoting: F=ma


ok.
but that answer you give can only be proven if you personally been on the moon so no man has..
even if you were right the ground would not be very bright around them and dark just a few yards away, it would be dark all over and you see no sceneries,
Anyone with a brian would of got on a hill and looked out and have a nice scenery for the photo album just to prove you were on a distant land but the didnt
because any photo like that could of been tracked back on earth.
now what does your manual say on that one?
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why has no man gone back to the moon in 40+ years?
why has no man crossed the van allen belt in 40+ years?
answer: cause you can't! and never did!
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 5481399

We haven't gone back simply because funding was cut. Apollo was incredibly expensive, and the political will to fund it no longer exists. Your argument from incredulity does not constitute anything substantive.
 Quoting: Astromut


where did astrobut go?
did this thread go past his shill skills?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 5481399


Wow, impatient too, nice qualities.
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ok.
but that answer you give can only be proven if you personally been on the moon
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 5481399

Wrong. Ever hear of this thing called an "occultation?"
so no man has..
 Quoting: AC

That's your claim, but you haven't proven it.
even if you were right the ground would not be very bright around them and dark just a few yards away, it would be dark all over and you see no sceneries,
 Quoting: AC

LMFAO! I guess the concept of a diffuse reflection eludes you. Tell me, how is it we see the surface of the moon just fine during first quarter when its source of illumination (the sun) is perpendicular to our line of sight?
Anyone with a brian would of got on a hill and looked out and have a nice scenery for the photo album just to prove you were on a distant land
 Quoting: AC

There are plenty of beautiful scenery photos from the Apollo missions, including panoramas taken one image at a time. Clearly that's not good enough for you. Oh well, too bad.
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Because you say so? Sorry bud, that's not how it works. Come back when you can offer something substantive.
 Quoting: Astromut

why has no man gone back to the moon in 40+ years?
why has no man crossed the van allen belt [sic] in 40+ years?
answer: cause you can't! and never did!
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 5481399

That is substantive?

It's just the answer you prefer, not the answer you can proof.

why did the space shuttle never go past the van allen belt?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 5481399

Same problem again.
For some reason you presume there would be a reason to do so.

Your presumptions are not evidence.

so mars has air now?
so mars has an atmosphere like earths?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 5481399

No, Mars has an atmosphere quite unlike Earth's.
It's still rather more substantial than the Moon's though.

Were you sequestered for your whole life or something, we have known that Mars has an atmosphere since the 19th century.
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OK I did not memorize all the stuff they tell you like you
all did so..
You have to have an atmosphere to see light?
if thats the case I have many questions for you shills.
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OK I did not memorize all the stuff they tell you like you
all did so..
You have to have an atmosphere to see light?
if thats the case I have many questions for you shills.
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Wow, you clearly have no idea what you're talking about. What's worse is that you act like anyone who DOES know what they're talking about is a "shill." You're never going to escape your own ignorance if you keep that up...
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ok.
but that answer you give can only be proven if you personally been on the moon
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 5481399

Wrong. Ever hear of this thing called an "occultation?"
so no man has..
 Quoting: AC

That's your claim, but you haven't proven it.
even if you were right the ground would not be very bright around them and dark just a few yards away, it would be dark all over and you see no sceneries,
 Quoting: AC

LMFAO! I guess the concept of a diffuse reflection eludes you. Tell me, how is it we see the surface of the moon just fine during first quarter when its source of illumination (the sun) is perpendicular to our line of sight?
Anyone with a brian would of got on a hill and looked out and have a nice scenery for the photo album just to prove you were on a distant land
 Quoting: AC

There are plenty of beautiful scenery photos from the Apollo missions, including panoramas taken one image at a time. Clearly that's not good enough for you. Oh well, too bad.
 Quoting: Astromut


I guess the concept of a diffuse reflection eludes you. Tell me, how is it we see the surface of the moon just fine during first quarter when its source of illumination (the sun) is perpendicular to our line of sight?

fuck if i know
why dont you explain please
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OK I did not memorize all the stuff they tell you like you
all did so..
You have to have an atmosphere to see light?
if thats the case I have many questions for you shills.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 5481399


Wow, you clearly have no idea what you're talking about. What's worse is that you act like anyone who DOES know what they're talking about is a "shill." You're never going to escape your own ignorance if you keep that up...
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thats me get the fuck over it
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thats me get the fuck over it
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So all you have is ignorance and attitude.

But no evidence whatsoever.

All to familiar.
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Gosh the shrills still amaze me.

Too bad that the fabric of lies and deception is being torn and con-artistry is going out of vouge.
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Look man I got few mins here.
what did you want to know?
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You said NASA lies. What did they lie about and show the proof.
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How about "Area 51"? Nasty has always lied about it not being in existence.
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Please note, folks, that while the arxiv.org web site is hosted by Cornell University, the scientific papers published there don't originate from Cornell and few of the authors are Cornell professors. In fact, you will often find competing scientific papers expressing opposite opinions at arxiv.org.

In this case, the author of the paper is Lorenzo Iorio, and his institutional affiliation is not Cornell - it is listed as "Ministero dell'Instruzione, dell'Universiteta e della Ricera", which apparently is a university in Italy (I'm not familiar with this school and I'm not sure where in Italy it's located).

Arxiv.org is just a clearinghouse for scientific papers that helps people stay on top of the latest research. Cornell itself doesn't endorse everything posted there.
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Look man I got few mins here.
what did you want to know?
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You said NASA lies. What did they lie about and show the proof.
 Quoting: F=ma


How about "Area 51"? Nasty has always lied about it not being in existence.
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This was too easy....I just couldn't resist. Here is another site pointing out NASA's deception.

Are you satisfied, or would you like to see more? Frankly, I could never call anyone a moron, just because they are gullible.

[link to www.remusicas.org]
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What I hear--

and you can stick this IDEA into the Crazy Notions File--

--for the time being.

The Moon is out of position because the Brown Dwarf star, Wormwood, is behind us. We think it's our Sun.

And it's going to push this planet out of this solar system, past Mars, Jupiter, Saturn, Uranus and Neptune.

I don't know where Earth is going; but we're going for a ride and that burning sphere you see is NOT Old Sol.


That's the way I hear it. shrug

Time will tell.


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Look man I got few mins here.
what did you want to know?
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You said NASA lies. What did they lie about and show the proof.
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How about "Area 51"? Nasty has always lied about it not being in existence.
 Quoting: Volar 4648268


What does NASA have to do with a classified air force base? Hey, I've got an idea, how about you ask NASA about project Fast and Furious, see if they'll tell you the truth about that! If they don't disclose all the details, then they're lying!

I seriously have a hard time believing that even you can't see the fallacy in that kind of logic.
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Look man I got few mins here.
what did you want to know?
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You said NASA lies. What did they lie about and show the proof.
 Quoting: F=ma


How about "Area 51"? Nasty has always lied about it not being in existence.
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What does NASA have to do with a classified air force base? Hey, I've got an idea, how about you ask NASA about project Fast and Furious, see if they'll tell you the truth about that! If they don't disclose all the details, then they're lying!

I seriously have a hard time believing that even you can't see the fallacy in that kind of logic.
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Well, NASA does have a lot to do with Area 51.

NASA has worked in conjunction with the Air Force to build phenomenal air crafts, and even surveyed Groom Lake as a joint project in the '60's.

Several NASA test pilots worked at Air Force bases near Area 51 in the '60s-'70s and seen craft fly from there

It's all on the Wikipedia Area 51 page.
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Here's a good craft to demonstrate NASA and the Air Force's work together.

[link to en.wikipedia.org]
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You said NASA lies. What did they lie about and show the proof.
 Quoting: F=ma


How about "Area 51"? Nasty has always lied about it not being in existence.
 Quoting: Volar 4648268


What does NASA have to do with a classified air force base? Hey, I've got an idea, how about you ask NASA about project Fast and Furious, see if they'll tell you the truth about that! If they don't disclose all the details, then they're lying!

I seriously have a hard time believing that even you can't see the fallacy in that kind of logic.
 Quoting: Astromut


Well, NASA does have a lot to do with Area 51.

NASA has worked in conjunction with the Air Force to build phenomenal air crafts, and even surveyed Groom Lake as a joint project in the '60's.

Several NASA test pilots worked at Air Force bases near Area 51 in the '60s-'70s and seen craft fly from there

It's all on the Wikipedia Area 51 page.
 Quoting: Pangn


Yeah, and NASA had a lot to do with Chapel Bell too (far, far more than Area 51), doesn't mean it's their responsible to decide when and how much to disclose about it. That too was a military project.

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How about "Area 51"? Nasty has always lied about it not being in existence.
 Quoting: Volar 4648268


What does NASA have to do with a classified air force base? Hey, I've got an idea, how about you ask NASA about project Fast and Furious, see if they'll tell you the truth about that! If they don't disclose all the details, then they're lying!

I seriously have a hard time believing that even you can't see the fallacy in that kind of logic.
 Quoting: Astromut


Well, NASA does have a lot to do with Area 51.

NASA has worked in conjunction with the Air Force to build phenomenal air crafts, and even surveyed Groom Lake as a joint project in the '60's.

Several NASA test pilots worked at Air Force bases near Area 51 in the '60s-'70s and seen craft fly from there

It's all on the Wikipedia Area 51 page.
 Quoting: Pangn


Yeah, and NASA had a lot to do with Chapel Bell too (far, far more than Area 51), doesn't mean it's their responsible to decide when and how much to disclose about it. That too was a military project.
 Quoting: Astromut


I was just responding to the context you replied in. You asked what NASA even had to do with Area 51, and akined it to being the same as asking them about project Fast and Furious, which they had nothing to do with.

If someone asks them if it exsists, and they say it doesn't.. then they very much are lying.. regardless of who tells him to do so.

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