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DUTCHSINSE — Moon verified to be out of place — ‘Lunar Anomaly’ — Planet X / Tyche / Nemesis would have to be 30AU

 
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I think I must need to get my eyes tested. I've watched a load of these videos and seen loads more pictures that supposedly show undeniable proof of buildings on the Moon, water on Mars, etc. The one thing all of them seem to have in common is that I can never, ever see the thing that is undeniably right there in front of me!

Not once have I been able to make out the conservatory on the Moon. The "path" on the Mars video looks very much like a ridge line to my eyes, the "dome structure" looks like a big rock and the "shore line" looks suspiciously like the edge of a giant impact crater.

I looked at the pics in the facebook link somebody posted with pics of the Moon. One of them supposedly proves the Moon is "crawling with people". Where are the people? Are they invisible people? I don't see the people!

I'm not here to judge anyone or debunk anything. I just want to know why people post pictures and videos of stuff that isn't there, and then say "look! People on the Moon! Undeniable evidence!!", and then when I look, then look harder, then squint a bit, zoom in, squint harder, zoom in again... There's never anything there that looks even remotely like the thing that it is supposed to be undeniable evidence of.

Are my eyes fucked, or what?
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I know what you mean. Just as soon as I can clean my computer, I will do a little more research, an get better photos. Last night, someone slipped me a Trojan, or something with a Trojan on it, and maintenance, or a new restore point is needed to nurse it back to health.

NASA air brushes most of the evidence that show artificial structures, or signs of life....so fuzzy, or smeared pictures, is what they are trying to achieve, in order to cover up their previous lies. So....stay tuned....I will be back with better, and undeniable evidence.
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OK....as promised, here are a few of some photos of Mars which show undeniable artificial structures. A pile of rocks is no comparison to the wonders of Mars that are completely ignored by Nasty.

[link to www.livingtree.org]

[link to www.marsanomalyresearch.com]

[link to www.livevideo.com]
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No. You just think I am unfair in my dislike for NASA. I have given them every opportunity to come clean about the knowledge they have obtained, from the use of our money. We are obviously not getting the benefit from anything they label "Top Secret", which includes Alien contact, and "artifacts" found on planets in our Solar System. To guard their secrets, they intentionally lie about everything that is affiliated with what they are trying to protect. If you think that is being biased, then your mind is not open to the obvious fact they are not working for the benefit of the average citizen.

I am not going to bring up the issue of Planet X, and their future plans regarding its disclosure. I will state, however, that whatever they tell us should be taken with a grain of salt, and always be suspiciously objective, keeping in mind there is always a hidden motive behind everything they say.
 Quoting: Volar 4648268


It has nothing to do with your dislike. It has everything to do with your illogic.
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Being the English language can be twisted around to misrepresent exactly what I am trying to say, it is not my fault you are unable to catch my drift. Who cares what YOU think. I am not obligated to convince you of my feelings toward anything, or anyone. As far as your opinion, you are on your own....I could care less. besides, I have never expected to get a perfect score of approval....especially from "shills".
 Quoting: Volar 4648268


Clearly you do care because you posted. As far as shill, a that is laughable but that is all you got. Throw out the standard lie in an emotional appeal. Just because I disagree with you does not make me a shill, and you need to look up the word.
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I did look up the word, and it substantiates the exact definition I indeed wanted to get across to you. Perhaps it would have been better to have called you a “curmudgeon”. It would appear to best describe your attitude.


shill [shil]
n (plural shills)
1. pretended customer or gambler: an accomplice who pretends to be an interested customer or gambler in order to lure others into buying or gambling
2. self-interested promoter: somebody who promotes somebody else or makes a sales pitch for something for reasons of self-interest

v (past and past participle shilled, present participle shill·ing, 3rd person present singular shills)
1. vi be shill: to be or work as a shill
2. vt promote somebody or something as shill: to promote somebody or make a sales pitch for something using the tactics of a shill

[Early 20th century. Origin ?]
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Oh NOooss...

Someone actually contacted Dr. Lorenzo Iorio!

Here's what he had to say;


 Quoting: TBar1984


Nice. I had one of the Youboob idiots just a couple days ago telling me to Call Cornell to talk to Iorio. There is no other way to say it. The people who thing Iorio's paper supports the 'Nibiru' or 'tilted moon' claims are imbeciles.
 Quoting: Menow 1525529


I've been waiting for Foghaze to release the contents of Dr Iorio's paper 'NS_Nibiru_2012_Iorio_010.pdf she mentioned in that video. I tried searching for it online but couldn't find anything. I did find another paper from 2009 where Iorio discussed how far away a 'possible' object would have to be 'given the present-day level of accuracy in knowing....' That paper is here [link to onlinelibrary.wiley.com]
Given the tendencies of the 'YouTube Researchers', they would probably try to claim that this paper 'confirms' the presence of these objects at these distances. They are, "A Mars-sized body can be found at not less than 70–85 au: such bounds are 147–175 au, 1006–1200 au, 4334–5170 au, 8113–9524 au and 10 222–12 000 au for a body with a mass equal to that of the Earth, Jupiter, a brown dwarf, red dwarf and the Sun, respectively." Note that Mike Brown has theorized that a Mars sized object may be found in the Kuiper Belt and NASA was looking for Tyche at 15,000 AU.
Interesting...
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OK....as promised, here are a few of some photos of Mars which show undeniable artificial structures.
 Quoting: Volar 4648268

It is deniable that those are artificial structures.

In fact it is just a collection of compression artifacts, glitches, pareidolia, miss-interpretations, and what-nots.

I did look up the word, and it substantiates the exact definition I indeed wanted to get across to you.
 Quoting: Volar 4648268

You might want to read my sig.

Like all the woos you don't have a clue what it means to actually proof something.
Hatred is a cancer upon the world.
It rots the mind and blackens the heart.


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Oh NOooss...

Someone actually contacted Dr. Lorenzo Iorio!

Here's what he had to say;


 Quoting: TBar1984


Nice. I had one of the Youboob idiots just a couple days ago telling me to Call Cornell to talk to Iorio. There is no other way to say it. The people who thing Iorio's paper supports the 'Nibiru' or 'tilted moon' claims are imbeciles.
 Quoting: Menow 1525529


I've been waiting for Foghaze to release the contents of Dr Iorio's paper 'NS_Nibiru_2012_Iorio_010.pdf she mentioned in that video. I tried searching for it online but couldn't find anything. I did find another paper from 2009 where Iorio discussed how far away a 'possible' object would have to be 'given the present-day level of accuracy in knowing....' That paper is here [link to onlinelibrary.wiley.com]
Given the tendencies of the 'YouTube Researchers', they would probably try to claim that this paper 'confirms' the presence of these objects at these distances. They are, "A Mars-sized body can be found at not less than 70–85 au: such bounds are 147–175 au, 1006–1200 au, 4334–5170 au, 8113–9524 au and 10 222–12 000 au for a body with a mass equal to that of the Earth, Jupiter, a brown dwarf, red dwarf and the Sun, respectively." Note that Mike Brown has theorized that a Mars sized object may be found in the Kuiper Belt and NASA was looking for Tyche at 15,000 AU.
Interesting...
 Quoting: TBar1984

Here is a more recent Iorio paper on the same subject 'Constraints on the location of a putative distant massive body in the Solar System from recent planetary data' [link to arxiv.org]

He is saying that a Mars-sized object would have to be at least 150 to 200 AU away, etc.
"We obtain the following approximate lower bounds on dX (distance of Planet-X) for the assumed masses of X quoted in brackets: 150 - 200 au (m_Mars), 250 - 450 au (0.7 m_Earth), 3500 - 4500 au (4 m_Jup)."
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OK....as promised, here are a few of some photos of Mars which show undeniable artificial structures.
 Quoting: Volar 4648268

It is deniable that those are artificial structures.

In fact it is just a collection of compression artifacts, glitches, pareidolia, miss-interpretations, and what-nots.

I did look up the word, and it substantiates the exact definition I indeed wanted to get across to you.
 Quoting: Volar 4648268

You might want to read my sig.

Like all the woos you don't have a clue what it means to actually proof something.
 Quoting: Halcyon Dayz, FCD


OK....I'll bite. Just what kind of proof are you looking for? Since your rebuttals do not clarify this, I'll just assume you have no idea what you are talking about.

Maybe, you can give a few testimonials by someone who does not feel a lie is necessary to cover up information that he/she feels is necessary for the good of the people.

Why is it I feel you will NEVER subject yourself to a compromise, when it involves "lies" perpetrated by Governmental agencies? So….come on, Dayze....Do you really believe 9/11 was not an inside job, or false flag?
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Dutch's HAARP Interpretations are discussed a few minutes in...

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Like all the woos you don't have a clue what it means to actually proof something.
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 Quoting: Halcyon Dayz, FCD

OK....I'll bite. Just what kind of proof are you looking for? Since your rebuttals do not clarify this, I'll just assume you have no idea what you are talking about.
 Quoting: Volar 4648268

There's your problem. You wouldn't recognise it if it bit you in the behind.
Not a surprise considering you believe Nancy Lieder, who has never presented any evidence in her live.

Evidence has to be real, it has to be factual, it has to have provenance, it has to be supported by logic, reason, and science.
It has to point in a single direction.

Maybe, you can give a few testimonials by someone who does not feel a lie is necessary to cover up information that he/she feels is necessary for the good of the people.
 Quoting: Volar 4648268

There you go again claiming people lie without any evidence.
You only do so because they won't confirm your personal iteration of flateartherism.
You are projecting.

Nobody cares what you believe, the only thing that matters is what evidence you present.
So far zilch.

Why is it I feel you will NEVER subject yourself to a compromise, when it involves "lies" perpetrated by Governmental agencies?
 Quoting: Volar 4648268

It is not a given that government agencies always lie.
In fact some statements can be proven to be factual.
Or isn't Washington, D.C. the capital of the U.S.A?

Thus every statement must be judged on its merits.
NASA's story is completely consistent and verifiable.
Volar's story, random noises from a Cloudcuckoolander.

So….come on, Dayze....Do you really believe 9/11 was not an inside job, or false flag?
 Quoting: Volar 4648268

What I believe is immaterial.
The only thing that matters is what the evidence shows.

I do know this though, a secret cabal that wanted the political and sociological effects of the public believing that Islamist extremists had flown passenger aircraft into landmark buildings would arrange for exactly that to happen.
Unless they are complete idiots.


Dutch's HAARP Interpretations are discussed a few minutes in...
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HAARP, the little black dress of conspiracy land.
It goes with every occasion.
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Evidence has to be real, it has to be factual, it has to have provenance, it has to be supported by logic, reason, and science.
It has to point in a single direction.

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Really?....And....just who is the source of all this logic, reason, and science? Do you have any photos, or is it just word of mouth? It would be a good gesture on your part to present some of this fine, magnificent evidence. I really do need a good laugh.
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Evidence has to be real, it has to be factual, it has to have provenance, it has to be supported by logic, reason, and science.
It has to point in a single direction.
 Quoting: Halcyon Dayz, FCD

Really?....And....just who is the source of all this logic, reason,
 Quoting: Volar 4648268

It comes with having a brain and a proper education.

and science?
 Quoting: Volar 4648268

Science comes from applying logic and reason to observations.

Do you have any photos, or is it just word of mouth? It would be a good gesture on your part to present some of this fine, magnificent evidence. I really do need a good laugh.
 Quoting: Volar 4648268

Say what?!

You make the claim, YOU provide evidence.

No aliens is the null hypothesis, IOW I don't have to proof they don't exist.
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You make the claim, YOU provide evidence.

No aliens is the null hypothesis, IOW I don't have to proof they don't exist.
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You are right. You do not have to prove anything. So....exactly what are you doing here on GLP?
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No aliens is the null hypothesis, IOW I don't have to proof they don't exist.
book
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You are right. You do not have to prove anything. So....exactly what are you doing here on GLP?
 Quoting: Volar 4648268

Haven't you read my sig?
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No aliens is the null hypothesis, IOW I don't have to proof they don't exist.
book
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You are right. You do not have to prove anything. So....exactly what are you doing here on GLP?
 Quoting: Volar 4648268

Haven't you read my sig?
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He doesn't like to read anything that doesn't support his "theories"

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No aliens is the null hypothesis, IOW I don't have to proof they don't exist.
book
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You are right. You do not have to prove anything. So....exactly what are you doing here on GLP?
 Quoting: Volar 4648268

Haven't you read my sig?
book
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Have I missed anything, besides all your ranting? Skeptics are all alike, they are here for one reason only....to play the “Devil’s advocate”. As far as your “sig” is concerned, in comparison, reading “My Pet Goat” would probably be more interesting.

What you consider truth is like a “Religion”. It is hard to accept the fact, you have been lied to, all your life.
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I did look up the word, and it substantiates the exact definition I indeed wanted to get across to you. Perhaps it would have been better to have called you a “curmudgeon”. It would appear to best describe your attitude.


shill [shil]
n (plural shills)
1. pretended customer or gambler: an accomplice who pretends to be an interested customer or gambler in order to lure others into buying or gambling
 Quoting: Volar 4648268


Since I am not an accomplice to anyone and I am not telling people to by books and DVDs and visit ad loaded websites this does not apply.



2. self-interested promoter: somebody who promotes somebody else or makes a sales pitch for something for reasons of self-interest
 Quoting: Volar 4648268


I have not promoted or given a sales pitch for any reasons of self interest.

v (past and past participle shilled, present participle shill·ing, 3rd person present singular shills)
1. vi be shill: to be or work as a shill
2. vt promote somebody or something as shill: to promote somebody or make a sales pitch for something using the tactics of a shill

[Early 20th century. Origin ?]
 Quoting: Volar 4648268


Since I do not fit the noun I cannot fit the verb. You however, have directed people to ad laden web sites and sites that promote books and DVDs the word shill clearly applies to you. Sites such as:

[link to www.remusicas.org]

[link to www.filmbaby.com]

Proof you are a shill!

And since you like to call people names might I suggest one for you, "sheep". Look it up.

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OK....as promised, here are a few of some photos of Mars which show undeniable artificial structures. A pile of rocks is no comparison to the wonders of Mars that are completely ignored by Nasty.

[link to www.livingtree.org]

[link to www.marsanomalyresearch.com]

[link to www.livevideo.com]
 Quoting: Volar 4648268


Confirmation bias.
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So....exactly what are you doing here on GLP?
 Quoting: Halcyon Dayz, FCD

Haven't you read my sig?
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 Quoting: Volar 4648268

Have I missed anything, besides all your ranting?
 Quoting: Halcyon Dayz, FCD

You missed everything.

I'm the one ranting? lol

Skeptics are all alike, they are here for one reason only....to play the “Devil’s advocate”.
 Quoting: Volar 4648268

I'm mostly here to be entertained.
The credulity that some people are capable off never ceases to amaze me.

As far as your “sig” is concerned, in comparison, reading “My Pet Goat” would probably be more interesting.
 Quoting: Volar 4648268

Come on. It's only three sentences.

What you consider truth is like a “Religion”.
 Quoting: Volar 4648268

Said the Liederite...

It is hard to accept the fact, you have been lied to, all your life.
 Quoting: Volar 4648268

Oh, I know.

The difference between you and me is, though, that I've acquired tools that help me to tell the difference between truths and falsehoods.
My very own bullshit detection kit if you will.
Frex, liars don't provide evidence for their claims.
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I have not promoted or given a sales pitch for any reasons of self interest.


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Your sales pitch is your posting, appealing for your right to be recognized. Your self interest stems from your objective to be believed.
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I have not promoted or given a sales pitch for any reasons of self interest.


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Your sales pitch is your posting, appealing for your right to be recognized. Your self interest stems from your objective to be believed.
 Quoting: Volar 4648268


I have not promoted or given a sales pitch for any reasons of self interest.

You are still shilling
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I have not promoted or given a sales pitch for any reasons of self interest.


 Quoting: F=ma


Your sales pitch is your posting, appealing for your right to be recognized. Your self interest stems from your objective to be believed.
 Quoting: Volar 4648268


I have not promoted or given a sales pitch for any reasons of self interest.

You are still shilling
 Quoting: F=ma


Then, why are you here? For your own self interest, or for the interest of others? And....what are you trying to promote? Your skeptism?....Or is it you are working for pay? Makes no difference, anyway....does it? No-one really cares.
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It is hard to accept the fact, you have been lied to, all your life.
 Quoting: Volar 4648268


Oh, I know.

The difference between you and me is, though, that I've acquired tools that help me to tell the difference between truths and falsehoods.
My very own bullshit detection kit if you will.
Frex, liars don't provide evidence for their claims.
book
 Quoting: Halcyon Dayz, FCD


It is amazing how you will not allow yourself to believe there are other life forms, other than ones found on Earth. What you contribute is priceless, in the fact you are an education, in showing others how the human mind can be programmed to be deceived, even when the presentation of factual information should prove otherwise.

The question you should ask yourself is, “Why are you so rigid in your belief that Aliens do not exist, when it should not matter, with you, one way or the other?” As for me, I detest being lied to by the very people who we are paying to provide us with the truth.

Below, you will find more photos, and videos of cities on Mars. I find all this extremely fascinating, in the fact we may be looking at the location of where our ancient ancestors originated from.

[link to www.livevideo.com]

[link to www.youtube.com]

[link to www.disclose.tv]

[link to www.metacafe.com]
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I have not promoted or given a sales pitch for any reasons of self interest.


 Quoting: F=ma


Your sales pitch is your posting, appealing for your right to be recognized. Your self interest stems from your objective to be believed.
 Quoting: Volar 4648268


I have not promoted or given a sales pitch for any reasons of self interest.

You are still shilling
 Quoting: F=ma


Then, why are you here? For your own self interest, or for the interest of others? And....what are you trying to promote? Your skeptism?....Or is it you are working for pay? Makes no difference, anyway....does it? No-one really cares.
 Quoting: Volar 4648268




It is clear you are working for pay. That has been proven. I am here becuase I want to be but you seem intent on denying me my right of free speech. Shame on you shill.

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It is hard to accept the fact, you have been lied to, all your life.
 Quoting: Volar 4648268


Oh, I know.

The difference between you and me is, though, that I've acquired tools that help me to tell the difference between truths and falsehoods.
My very own bullshit detection kit if you will.
Frex, liars don't provide evidence for their claims.
book
 Quoting: Halcyon Dayz, FCD


It is amazing how you will not allow yourself to believe there are other life forms, other than ones found on Earth. What you contribute is priceless, in the fact you are an education, in showing others how the human mind can be programmed to be deceived, even when the presentation of factual information should prove otherwise.

The question you should ask yourself is, “Why are you so rigid in your belief that Aliens do not exist, when it should not matter, with you, one way or the other?” As for me, I detest being lied to by the very people who we are paying to provide us with the truth.

Below, you will find more photos, and videos of cities on Mars. I find all this extremely fascinating, in the fact we may be looking at the location of where our ancient ancestors originated from.

[link to www.livevideo.com]

[link to www.youtube.com]

[link to www.disclose.tv]

[link to www.metacafe.com]
 Quoting: Volar 4648268


Just more web sites with ads or requests for money. Shameful how blatantly you shill

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It is hard to accept the fact, you have been lied to, all your life.
 Quoting: Volar 4648268


Oh, I know.

The difference between you and me is, though, that I've acquired tools that help me to tell the difference between truths and falsehoods.
My very own bullshit detection kit if you will.
Frex, liars don't provide evidence for their claims.
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 Quoting: Halcyon Dayz, FCD


It is amazing how you will not allow yourself to believe there are other life forms, other than ones found on Earth. What you contribute is priceless, in the fact you are an education, in showing others how the human mind can be programmed to be deceived, even when the presentation of factual information should prove otherwise.

The question you should ask yourself is, “Why are you so rigid in your belief that Aliens do not exist, when it should not matter, with you, one way or the other?” As for me, I detest being lied to by the very people who we are paying to provide us with the truth.

Below, you will find more photos, and videos of cities on Mars. I find all this extremely fascinating, in the fact we may be looking at the location of where our ancient ancestors originated from.

[link to www.livevideo.com]

[link to www.youtube.com]

[link to www.disclose.tv]

[link to www.metacafe.com]
 Quoting: Volar 4648268


Just more web sites with ads or requests for money. Shameful how blatantly you shill

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 Quoting: F=ma


You could possibly be right, if it was not for the fact more than one site used the original images. You must not forget, these are restored air brushed satellite images, taken by NASA probes. Now, why would so many different sites want to produce videos, or photos, that you say aren't legit, when they are viewed free of charge? It does not make sense, and you know it.

Face it, there is some reason you are so emotionally involved, in the fact, you do not wish to believe there are extraterrestrials that are flying around in crafts, not of this Earth. Either you are religiously indoctrinated, or you have too much time invested to compromise your beliefs....or both. You could fess up, and be honest. No-one would ever think the less of you, if you did.
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It is amazing how you will not allow yourself to believe there are other life forms, other than ones found on Earth.
 Quoting: Volar 4648268

When did we start talking about what I believe?
My believes don't matter, your believes don't matter.
What matter is what the evidence shows.
It does not show that extra-terrestrial lifeforms exist.

What you contribute is priceless, in the fact you are an education, in showing others how the human mind can be programmed to be deceived, even when the presentation of factual information should prove otherwise.
 Quoting: Volar 4648268

Projecting again.
You are the one who has deceived herself into believing that data noise is "factual information".
Nancy has programmed you into a nice little credulous sheep.

The question you should ask yourself is, “Why are you so rigid in your belief that Aliens do not exist, when it should not matter, with you, one way or the other?”
 Quoting: Volar 4648268

Strawmanning again, that is not what I believe.

What I believe is that KNOWING that extraterrestrial life exists would matter a great deal.
All we KNOW for now is that it is highly probable that it exists.
What we don't KNOW is the who, the what, and the where.

As for me, I detest being lied to by the very people who we are paying to provide us with the truth.
 Quoting: Volar 4648268

Yet you're not pissed at Nancy Lieder, who lies all the time, but at NASA, who, as far as the evidence shows, is an innocent party.

Below, you will find more photos, and videos of cities on Mars.
 Quoting: Volar 4648268

lol
Now who's the one with a programmed brain here?
You look at compression artifacts and see confirmation of your bias.
Other people who don't know about artifacts look at it and wonder what it is.
They keep an open mind.

I could take a 90% compression jpeg picture of the floor of my balcony, blow it up a thousand times, and "discover" whole civilisations.
It's meaningless.

You could possibly be right, if it was not for the fact more than one site used the original images.
 Quoting: Volar 4648268

Actually, the originals would have considerable better resolution, and no compression.

You must not forget, these are restored air brushed satellite images, taken by NASA probes.
 Quoting: Volar 4648268

Aledgedly...

Now, why would so many different sites want to produce videos, or photos, that you say aren't legit, when they are viewed free of charge? It does not make sense, and you know it.
 Quoting: Volar 4648268

You can watch GLP free of charge.
Doesn't mean Trinity hopes to make some money out of it.
Just ask him.
Ever heard of commercial television?
You don't have to pay to watch, yet they make plenty of money.

Twenty-something banners and pop-ups is NOT a sign of trustworthiness, it is a sign people want to sell you something.

Face it, there is some reason you are so emotionally involved, in the fact, you do not wish to believe there are extraterrestrials that are flying around in crafts, not of this Earth.
 Quoting: Volar 4648268

Projecting again.
What I wish for is evidence, so I can KNOW.
Meanwhile you are stuck in a believe that is functionally indistinguishable from a believe in faeries or hobgoblins.
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You could possibly be right, if it was not for the fact more than one site used the original images. You must not forget, these are restored air brushed satellite images, taken by NASA probes. Now, why would so many different sites want to produce videos, or photos, that you say aren't legit, when they are viewed free of charge? It does not make sense, and you know it.

Face it, there is some reason you are so emotionally involved, in the fact, you do not wish to believe there are extraterrestrials that are flying around in crafts, not of this Earth. Either you are religiously indoctrinated, or you have too much time invested to compromise your beliefs....or both. You could fess up, and be honest. No-one would ever think the less of you, if you did.
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1) You do not know what the original look like. You assume that the images on your shill sites are untouched.
2) If they are manipulated images, who did the manipulation? Can you say woth certainty that it wasn't someone other than NASA? One of the shill sites? Or a hoaxer? Can you say that NASA images have never been touched by someone other than NASA?
3) You assume that the shill sites are correct in their interpretation. They are not. It is clear that the sites do not have an understanding of physical processes that are occuring.
4) You assume the shill sites understand images and image processing and image processing artifacts. They do not. Image compression leaves atifacts in images and artifacts are introduced when image formats are converted.
5) I become emotional when so many shill sites lie. Why are you so eager to accept their lies?
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What another thread from Dutchsinse?

I thought thee guy was a wanker

What happened to that?
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This thread is going to turn out like another Elenin
Or another global warming

It'll keep everyone taking shit and not noticing, while the NWO rapes countries like Lybia, Syria, Pakistan, etc, etc
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You could possibly be right, if it was not for the fact more than one site used the original images. You must not forget, these are restored air brushed satellite images, taken by NASA probes. Now, why would so many different sites want to produce videos, or photos, that you say aren't legit, when they are viewed free of charge? It does not make sense, and you know it.

Face it, there is some reason you are so emotionally involved, in the fact, you do not wish to believe there are extraterrestrials that are flying around in crafts, not of this Earth. Either you are religiously indoctrinated, or you have too much time invested to compromise your beliefs....or both. You could fess up, and be honest. No-one would ever think the less of you, if you did.
 Quoting: Volar 4648268


1) You do not know what the original look like. You assume that the images on your shill sites are untouched.
2) If they are manipulated images, who did the manipulation? Can you say woth certainty that it wasn't someone other than NASA? One of the shill sites? Or a hoaxer? Can you say that NASA images have never been touched by someone other than NASA?
3) You assume that the shill sites are correct in their interpretation. They are not. It is clear that the sites do not have an understanding of physical processes that are occuring.
4) You assume the shill sites understand images and image processing and image processing artifacts. They do not. Image compression leaves atifacts in images and artifacts are introduced when image formats are converted.
5) I become emotional when so many shill sites lie. Why are you so eager to accept their lies?
 Quoting: F=ma


So....has NASA ever told us why they use the air brush on their images of Mars, and the Moon? How about civilizations on Mars?....Are they denying they exist? Better yet, do you believe they are not trying to hide anything from us?

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