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DUTCHSINSE — Moon verified to be out of place — ‘Lunar Anomaly’ — Planet X / Tyche / Nemesis would have to be 30AU

 
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Get a transit (or theodolite) and a GPS.

Get the program Stelarium (its freeware).

Use Stelarium to find some bright stars
(vega, polaris, Sirius (dog star is very bright in east).

Calibrate your transit so that Azimuth and Elevation angles are correct for Sirius (or other star of interest).

Then Track the moons Azimuth Elevation angles over the course of a month at 2-3 times a night.

Then you can check if the moon is out of it's normal place.
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Thread: *** Moon orbit is wrong according to Cornell University *** PIN

Decent sized thread about this from a few months back.

Thread: Cornell University: Moon Orbit Wrong

and another one...

:)

Peace and love guys.
 Quoting: Sol1d1nt3l


Yes, it's another case of this;



Again, that paper refers to a Known anomaly of 6 Millimeters a YEAR. It can be seen on page 22 here: [link to astrometric.sai.msu.ru]

At 6 Millimeters a Year, it will be a very long time before the Eclipses forecast decades ago will suffer any degradation.
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"On the other hand, the values for the physical and orbital parameters of such a hypothetical body required to obtain the right order of magnitude for de/dt are completely unrealistic."

Can you guys not read? That's a quote right from the abstract. It says the change is the opposite of what would be expected from a large planetary body.
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I can only conclude, based on what's posted here, that most of you are complete morons.

You can't understand what's in the paper cited (hint - the claimed deviation in the moon's orbit is tiny), you have no understanding of celestial mechanics, and yet you post idiotic claims about the moon being "out of position" without any measurements, or apparently any way to make and verify those measurements.

Sometimes I really despair for the future of the human race if this is an example of the critical thinking faculties of the general population...
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I cannot believe you all are still thinking he knows what he is talking about. The Moon is fine, it occulted the stars it was suppose to last night in-which I was watching in a telescope.

Nothing in the orbit was off. If it was off it wouldn't have followed an occultation the way programs showed it would.

Dutchsinse is a scammer, period. He uses weak minded people in the field of science to profit off of. He uses you, which is not right at all. He knows you would believe anything said if it "appeared" to make sense ... knowing you don't know the math or physics behind it.
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"On the other hand, the values for the physical and orbital parameters of such a hypothetical body required to obtain the right order of magnitude for de/dt are completely unrealistic."

Can you guys not read? That's a quote right from the abstract. It says the change is the opposite of what would be expected from a large planetary body.
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this.
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I cannot believe you all are still thinking he knows what he is talking about. The Moon is fine, it occulted the stars it was suppose to last night in-which I was watching in a telescope.

Nothing in the orbit was off. If it was off it wouldn't have followed an occultation the way programs showed it would.

Dutchsinse is a scammer, period. He uses weak minded people in the field of science to profit off of. He uses you, which is not right at all. He knows you would believe anything said if it "appeared" to make sense ... knowing you don't know the math or physics behind it.
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Thanks :)
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Astromut doesn't have a chance debunking this, or does he? LOL!
Nice post OP.
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lol i think astronut rests his case when he reads this ;)
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Thread: *** Moon orbit is wrong according to Cornell University *** PIN

Decent sized thread about this from a few months back.

Thread: Cornell University: Moon Orbit Wrong

and another one...

:)

Peace and love guys.
 Quoting: Sol1d1nt3l


Yes, it's another case of this;



Again, that paper refers to a Known anomaly of 6 Millimeters a YEAR. It can be seen on page 22 here: [link to astrometric.sai.msu.ru]

At 6 Millimeters a Year, it will be a very long time before the Eclipses forecast decades ago will suffer any degradation.
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the point for me is they use the name planet x, explain that away. please.
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the point for me is they use the name planet x, explain that away. please.
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Sure. For decades, "Planet X" has referred to any hypothetical undiscovered planet in the Solar System, especially one large enough (mass-wise) to perturb the motions of the known objects in the Solar System.
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Thread: *** Moon orbit is wrong according to Cornell University *** PIN

Decent sized thread about this from a few months back.

Thread: Cornell University: Moon Orbit Wrong

and another one...

:)

Peace and love guys.
 Quoting: Sol1d1nt3l


Yes, it's another case of this;



Again, that paper refers to a Known anomaly of 6 Millimeters a YEAR. It can be seen on page 22 here: [link to astrometric.sai.msu.ru]

At 6 Millimeters a Year, it will be a very long time before the Eclipses forecast decades ago will suffer any degradation.
 Quoting: TBar1984


the point for me is they use the name planet x, explain that away. please.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 5432156

The Lunar Range Finding team didn't mention Planet-X. That was the done by the person who released that worthless paper which concludes by saying the anomaly IS NOT caused by a 'Planet-X'. First he introduces the possibility, then he concludes by saying it's impossible. Totally worthless mental masturbation and can only be viewed as an attention seeking stunt. Just my opinion of course.
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They explain in this paper from Cornell University that THEY CANNOT EXPLAIN why the moon is showing an “accelerating phenomenon”.
 Quoting: Dutchsince

It clearly states though that gravitational effects of any unknown planet have been excluded as a possible cause.

I love it when woowoos shoot themselves in the foot like that.
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ive been telling people for weeks in the uk that the moon os far from where it should be... everyone refuses to believe, make jokes and laugh it off. more fool them
 Quoting: breezey29 3953853


I saw your posts on this too. You just got swaped my the debunkers, seems everyone just wnts to shout fail these days. Last night particularily, i dont think i've ever had to crane my neck quite so much to see the moon, it was almost vertical, and seemed so far away. And today, up with the sun, but almost right next to it, and looking huge. Strange indeed.

Revelations did warn us of this, although im no religitard.
 Quoting: ))BAPHOMET((


i'm in colorado, moon's been sitting in northern horizon, was full a week or so ago, now has a shadow over half of it. it seems big and close and the shadow is covering the top portion.

i know it sounds goofy, but it just seems wrong, and has seemed wrong since over the summer....
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the point for me is they use the name planet x, explain that away. please.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 5432156

Sure. For decades, "Planet X" has referred to any hypothetical undiscovered planet in the Solar System, especially one large enough (mass-wise) to perturb the motions of the known objects in the Solar System.
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tyche, nemisis too. i know death is hard to handle, but that is a lie too. well, for some of us. denial hurts, stumps growth. stop it.
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Why is this shit not pinned??

I suggest a SUPER-PIN!!
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stupthrd
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Sad really: one hit wonder, and this appears to be the hit of the collection. Decent still.
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I can only conclude, based on what's posted here, that most of you are complete morons.

You can't understand what's in the paper cited (hint - the claimed deviation in the moon's orbit is tiny), you have no understanding of celestial mechanics, and yet you post idiotic claims about the moon being "out of position" without any measurements, or apparently any way to make and verify those measurements.

Sometimes I really despair for the future of the human race if this is an example of the critical thinking faculties of the general population...
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this x2
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man i have to reed, i need dutch to make a movie and explain it to me.
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i hate reeding (reading)*
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can you suck your own dick?
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That would be cool. I'd never leave the house.

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man i have to reed, i need dutch to make a movie and explain it to me.
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i hate reeding (reading)*
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about time hes talking about some real doom and NOT some stupid HAARP trash. I think I may re subscribe to wait because I am not reading, either
My avatar represents me well, so your curiosity stops here.
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Re: DUTCHSINSE — Moon verified to be out of place — ‘Lunar Anomaly’ — Planet X / Tyche / Nemesis would have to be 30AU
Moon itself is Nibiru.
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Re: DUTCHSINSE — Moon verified to be out of place — ‘Lunar Anomaly’ — Planet X / Tyche / Nemesis would have to be 30AU
Get a transit (or theodolite) and a GPS.

Get the program Stelarium (its freeware).

Use Stelarium to find some bright stars
(vega, polaris, Sirius (dog star is very bright in east).

Calibrate your transit so that Azimuth and Elevation angles are correct for Sirius (or other star of interest).

Then Track the moons Azimuth Elevation angles over the course of a month at 2-3 times a night.

Then you can check if the moon is out of it's normal place.
 Quoting: Dr_Kynes 4689514


Which it ISN'T! FFS You wouldn't need to look at the moon to see if it was out of place.......the effects would be easily visible on Earth!

putin
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Moon itself is Nibiru.
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No Nibiru comes thru here once every 3600 years. it was last here at the time of Christ and a major reasoning for the timing of that incarnation because of the plans of those folks on Nibiru, or rather in it, they live inside.
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Thread: *** Moon orbit is wrong according to Cornell University *** PIN

Decent sized thread about this from a few months back.

Thread: Cornell University: Moon Orbit Wrong

and another one...

:)

Peace and love guys.
 Quoting: Sol1d1nt3l


Yes, it's another case of this;



Again, that paper refers to a Known anomaly of 6 Millimeters a YEAR. It can be seen on page 22 here: [link to astrometric.sai.msu.ru]

At 6 Millimeters a Year, it will be a very long time before the Eclipses forecast decades ago will suffer any degradation.
 Quoting: TBar1984


the point for me is they use the name planet x, explain that away. please.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 5432156

The Lunar Range Finding team didn't mention Planet-X. That was the done by the person who released that worthless paper which concludes by saying the anomaly IS NOT caused by a 'Planet-X'. First he introduces the possibility, then he concludes by saying it's impossible. Totally worthless mental masturbation and can only be viewed as an attention seeking stunt. Just my opinion of course.
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Here's a little exercise for you. At 6 Millimeters a year of change, calculate how many years it will take for the moons location, as viewed from Earth, to change by 1 lunar diameter. From here [link to en.wikipedia.org] let's use a lunar diameter of 3,474 Kilometers. How many years?
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ive been telling people for weeks in the uk that the moon os far from where it should be... everyone refuses to believe, make jokes and laugh it off. more fool them
 Quoting: breezey29 3953853


Nip even agrees the moon is way out of wack
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well it was not quite as out of whack the other day when I posted about it, being far off from the expected set time, weather underground posted the wrong time. but it was still off according to my star program. I have to adjust my estimated where it is coming up against the star program, as with the axis shifting (NOT TILT CHANGE) is nearly 4 degrees total, and when equinox FINALLY got here this year, that point in the east was a few degrees south of where it used to be. Its always just a tad south of this castle tower on the hill east of me, when the shadow is straight and not angled. This year it quite a bit south, consistent with nearly 4 degrees. I am not going to try to figure out how our new equator goes from that, but it was NICE proof to me
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:fat-bump:

Mods, can we get a pin, many thanks!
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OMG, that is the most absolute most audacious bump I have ever seen, lmao
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You guys do know that this crap has been debunked and then debunked two million times on GLP? Stop posting old shit, sheesh.
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Re: DUTCHSINSE — Moon verified to be out of place — ‘Lunar Anomaly’ — Planet X / Tyche / Nemesis would have to be 30AU
I think most of us agree SOMETHING is going on.
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Yes, something is going on. Everything is as normal. That's what is going on.

On a side note--if there were something going on with the moon that major enough for cause for concern - wouldn't we see a change in the tides?
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5* OP, Great find...

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im with this guy ^^

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