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DUTCHSINSE — Moon verified to be out of place — ‘Lunar Anomaly’ — Planet X / Tyche / Nemesis would have to be 30AU

 
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Still waiting. Until you can give us the caliber of the link, don't bother.
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What is "the caliber of the link"?

That site is woowoo garbage. It's a story, not science. Look up Time Cube for more of the same style of "science".

That's it... the calibre of the link is Time Cube calibre.
It's Peanut Butter and Bananas calibre.
It's "I can invent any magical mechanism to explain nature as long as I don't have to model it" calibre.
It's Frankie's Earthquake Telephone Poles calibre.
It has as much to do with science as The Cat In The Hat.

Don't believe me? Where are the numbers? Where are the equations? Where's the model.
Have them produce a Planetarium program using their "theories" that actually works. They can just make a simplistic one like we used to have back in the DOS/486 days, no need for Stellarium quality.
Will never happen.

It's garbage.


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Re: DUTCHSINSE — Moon verified to be out of place — ‘Lunar Anomaly’ — Planet X / Tyche / Nemesis would have to be 30AU
Well I always wanted to know, how exactly does heat get to the earth from the sun? Thanks in advance.

Thought that space is a vacuum and heat needs a medium.
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This would explain why you'd even consider the EU BS. No offense, but you must realise you haven't even a basic understanding of physics which makes you a target for all the crackpots with their idiotic "theories". They know even less than you in many cases. They just produce reams of words but nothing anyone could call "science". They're actually called stories. Fantasy stories. Bad science fiction.

Heat from EM doesn't need a medium for transfer. It's very happy to transfer through a vacuum. In fact, there's no better medium for radiative transfer.

The heat from the sun (and your stove, and the fire, and ...) is trasferred via photons. When they finally hit matter they may (or may not) transfer their energy to the matter thereby heating it.

Radio is similar. That is why radio communication in space is possible. It's all done with photons.

This is basic, basic, stuff. No fault of yours, you just never studied it and your interests were in a different direction.


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where you from originally to spell realize with an s? just curious. Electro magnetic radiation I get, like from EU, but EM from a nuclear powered sun, how is this possible. Yes, forgive my ignorance and looking at other stuff my whole life. So you're saying that a big bonfire in the sky and heat something without a medium?
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Still waiting. Until you can give us the caliber of the link, don't bother.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1004735


What is "the caliber of the link"?

That site is woowoo garbage. It's a story, not science. Look up Time Cube for more of the same style of "science".

That's it... the calibre of the link is Time Cube calibre.
It's Peanut Butter and Bananas calibre.
It's "I can invent any magical mechanism to explain nature as long as I don't have to model it" calibre.
It's Frankie's Earthquake Telephone Poles calibre.
It has as much to do with science as The Cat In The Hat.

Don't believe me? Where are the numbers? Where are the equations? Where's the model.
Have them produce a Planetarium program using their "theories" that actually works. They can just make a simplistic one like we used to have back in the DOS/486 days, no need for Stellarium quality.
Will never happen.

It's garbage.


R.
 Quoting: Reality420


if you say so, thems a lot of words, and nothing of the caliber I see at the link. just sayin
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Well I always wanted to know, [h]ow exactly does heat get to the earth from the sun? Thanks in advance.
 Quoting: German Coward 1004735

Electromagnetic radiation, as in sunshine.

But I do think EU has some merit, as well as not getting published from all the pressure and domination going on currently
 Quoting: German Coward 1004735

It doesn't get published in peer-reviewed papers because it hasn't been able to pass peer-review.
It's bad science.

Thought that space is a vacuum and heat needs a medium.
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You thought wrong about the latter.

So you're saying that a big bonfire in the sky and heat something without a medium?
 Quoting: German Coward 1004735

This can be experimentally verified in a vacuum oven.
It is not up for debate.

if you say so, thems a lot of words, and nothing of the caliber I see at the link. just sayin
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Dig up your high school text books.
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if you say so, thems a lot of words, and nothing of the caliber I see at the link. just sayin
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1004735


I see. You want me to produce reams of prose explaining the standard model.

Not going to happen.

Try these:

[link to en.wikipedia.org]

[link to www.nobelprize.org]
See all those gammas? Those are photons.

[link to www.qrg.northwestern.edu]

[link to helios.gsfc.nasa.gov]


And, let me Google that for you:
[link to lmgtfy.com]
[link to lmgtfy.com]


Now, to what celestial battery do the EUers propose the Sun is attached?
How large an EMF is required for the EU theory?
What happens to electrons as they fall through this enormous, astronomical potential?
Where do the electrons come from originally?
etc., etc., etc.
(You won't understand the implications of these question, but ask the toaster repairman and watch yourself get ignored/banned.)

Garbage. Stinky, week-old fish heads garbage.


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Well I always wanted to know, [h]ow exactly does heat get to the earth from the sun? Thanks in advance.
 Quoting: German Coward 1004735

Electromagnetic radiation, as in sunshine.

But I do think EU has some merit, as well as not getting published from all the pressure and domination going on currently
 Quoting: German Coward 1004735

It doesn't get published in peer-reviewed papers because it hasn't been able to pass peer-review.
It's bad science.

Thought that space is a vacuum and heat needs a medium.
 Quoting: German Coward 1004735

You thought wrong about the latter.

So you're saying that a big bonfire in the sky and heat something without a medium?
 Quoting: German Coward 1004735

This can be experimentally verified in a vacuum oven.
It is not up for debate.

if you say so, thems a lot of words, and nothing of the caliber I see at the link. just sayin
 Quoting: German Coward 1004735

Dig up your high school text books.
book
 Quoting: Halcyon Dayz, FCD


Okay, so if I just light a flame from my bick lighter in space, not even considering that I need oxygen for it to ignite, you're saying that the heat can trasnfer without a medium? That the heat comes from the lighter via an EM source? Any links you have would be nice, esp from your claims above, thanks.
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Re: DUTCHSINSE — Moon verified to be out of place — ‘Lunar Anomaly’ — Planet X / Tyche / Nemesis would have to be 30AU
This fulfills the book of Enoch that talks about the moon, its talks of the sun being brighter, the seasons changing

2 And in the days of the sinners the years shall be shortened, and their seed shall be tardy on their lands and fields, and all things on the earth shall alter, and shall not appear in their time. And the rain shall be kept back, and heaven shall withhold it. 3 And in those times the fruits of the earth shall be backward, and shall not grow in their time, and the fruits of the trees shall be withheld in their time. 4 And the moon shall alter her customs, and not appear at her time. 5 And in those days the sun shall be seen and he shall journey in the evening on the extremity of the great chariot in the west and shall shine more brightly than accords with the order of light. 6 And many rulers of the stars shall transgress their customary order. And these shall alter their orbits and tasks, and not appear at the seasons prescribed to them. 7 And the whole order of the stars shall be concealed from the sinners, and the thoughts of those on the earth shall err concerning them, and they shall be altered from all their ways, they shall err and take them to be gods. 8 And evil shall be multiplied on them, and punishment shall come on them so as to destroy all.'

Lumpkin, Joseph (2009-12-10). The Books of Enoch: A Complete Volume Containing 1 Enoch (The Ethiopic Book of Enoch), 2 Enoch (The Slavonic Secrets of Enoch), 3 Enoch (The Hebrew Book of Enoch) (pp. 143-144). Fifth Estate. Kindle Edition.
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if you say so, thems a lot of words, and nothing of the caliber I see at the link. just sayin
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1004735


I see. You want me to produce reams of prose explaining the standard model.

Not going to happen.

Try these:

[link to en.wikipedia.org]

[link to www.nobelprize.org]
See all those gammas? Those are photons.

[link to www.qrg.northwestern.edu]

[link to helios.gsfc.nasa.gov]


And, let me Google that for you:
[link to lmgtfy.com]
[link to lmgtfy.com]


Now, to what celestial battery do the EUers propose the Sun is attached?
How large an EMF is required for the EU theory?
What happens to electrons as they fall through this enormous, astronomical potential?
Where do the electrons come from originally?
etc., etc., etc.
(You won't understand the implications of these question, but ask the toaster repairman and watch yourself get ignored/banned.)

Garbage. Stinky, week-old fish heads garbage.


R.
 Quoting: Reality420


I'll try your links, but no need to attack someone just asking questions. What's the problem?

What if I said links to wiki are garbage? That wouldn't be very nice of me, now would it?
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Okay, so if I just light a flame from my bick lighter in space, not even considering that I need oxygen for it to ignite, you're saying that the heat can trasnfer without a medium? That the heat comes from the lighter via an EM source?
 Quoting: Watchamacallit

Now you are just trolling.

Nobody over six can not know that.

It can easily enough be deduced from personal experience.
Conduction takes time.
Switch on a radiative heater and you will feel the heat near instantly from metres away.
Hold you hand up while standing some distance from a bonfire.
The side of your hand lit by the fire will feel heat, the other side won't.
The whole hand being surrounded by the same medium.

The same is true if there is a vacuum chamber with glass walls between you and the fire.

I'll try your links, but no need to attack someone just asking questions. What's the problem?
 Quoting: Watchamacallit

The problem is people attacking the mainstream theory without even knowing what the mainstream theory is.

It's silly, it's arrogant, it's stupid.

What if I said links to wiki are garbage? That wouldn't be very nice of me, now would it?
 Quoting: Watchamacallit

Just as well then that the good wiki articles come with loads and loads of references.
book

Now tell, why don't you know all this stuff already?

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I'll try your links, but no need to attack someone just asking questions. What's the problem?

What if I said links to wiki are garbage? That wouldn't be very nice of me, now would it?
 Quoting: Watchamacallit


I'm not attacking you. I believe I'm being somewhat helpful to you. My scorn is toward the toaster repairman trying to sell you a sack of week old fish heads as caviar.

I don't know if you are a true believer in EU or not. I'm approaching you as I've stated - you are scientifically illiterate and are being preyed upon by crackpots who have you at least partially accepting of their idiotic "theory".

I'm hoping you will educate yourself by reading what is our current knowledge about the subject and by doing so you will realise that the EU "theory" can't possibly be true. The standard model may not be completely acccurate but it isn't a laughable farce like the Alice In Wonderland fantasy that is the EU.

Educate yourself, but not at the trough of kOOk sites.


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Okay, so if I just light a flame from my bick lighter in space, not even considering that I need oxygen for it to ignite, you're saying that the heat can trasnfer without a medium? That the heat comes from the lighter via an EM source?
 Quoting: Watchamacallit

Now you are just trolling.

Nobody over six can not know that.

It can easily enough be deduced from personal experience.
Conduction takes time.
Switch on a radiative heater and you will feel the heat near instantly from metres away.
Hold you hand up while standing some distance from a bonfire.
The side of your hand lit by the fire will feel heat, the other side won't.
The whole hand being surrounded by the same medium.

The same is true if there is a vacuum chamber with glass walls between you and the fire.

I'll try your links, but no need to attack someone just asking questions. What's the problem?
 Quoting: Watchamacallit

The problem is people attacking the mainstream theory without even knowing what the mainstream theory is.

It's silly, it's arrogant, it's stupid.

What if I said links to wiki are garbage? That wouldn't be very nice of me, now would it?
 Quoting: Watchamacallit

Just as well then that the good wiki articles come with loads and loads of references.
book

Now tell, why don't you know all this stuff already?
 Quoting: Halcyon Dayz, FCD


All the experiments assume you have a medium, which is air. I'm talking about space, the void. You didn't get that?
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I'll try your links, but no need to attack someone just asking questions. What's the problem?

What if I said links to wiki are garbage? That wouldn't be very nice of me, now would it?
 Quoting: Watchamacallit


I'm not attacking you. I believe I'm being somewhat helpful to you. My scorn is toward the toaster repairman trying to sell you a sack of week old fish heads as caviar.

I don't know if you are a true believer in EU or not. I'm approaching you as I've stated - you are scientifically illiterate and are being preyed upon by crackpots who have you at least partially accepting of their idiotic "theory".

I'm hoping you will educate yourself by reading what is our current knowledge about the subject and by doing so you will realise that the EU "theory" can't possibly be true. The standard model may not be completely acccurate but it isn't a laughable farce like the Alice In Wonderland fantasy that is the EU.

Educate yourself, but not at the trough of kOOk sites.


R.
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I AM trying to educate myself, but name calling does everybody a disservice, you included, no matter how much you back peddle.
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I AM trying to educate myself, but name calling does everybody a disservice, you included, no matter how much you back peddle.
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Backpedaling? You don't know me. I'm most certainly not backpedaling.

The EU "theory" is garbage created by idiotic crackpots who I wouldn't let rewire my table lamp.
It is laughable. It is a sad farce. It only appeals to other crackpots and the scientifically illiterate "seeker".
It cannot produce a planetary orbit.
It cannot explain fundamental, incoherent, internal flaws.
It is a figment of the imagination of a looney Velikovskyite.
It hasn't produced one model in all these years because it can't. It's garbage. It's fantasy. It's all words and no substance. It's a lie. It has the Time Cube as a peer. It can't be published because there is nothing to publish except pages and pages of words from a blithering idiot. Science journals do not publish random rantings of internet kOOks.

It's crap. It is the sludge at the bottom of your septic tank. A thousand monkeys banging on keyboards could produce something more intellegent. It has no more relation to reality than a Batman comic book.

It's a joke.

Have I made myself clear?

Don't fall for it in your ignorance of science. Educate yourself.


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Well, got this seconds ago via Twitter from Dutchsince




[link to adsabs.harvard.edu]


Download PDF here:
[link to arxiv.org]


"Dutchsince:"

They explain in this paper from Cornell University that THEY CANNOT EXPLAIN why the moon is showing an “accelerating phenomenon”.

They do calculations based upon the location of “X” .. X being the distant point where the supposed “planet x / nemesis / tyche” is located.

This paper acknowledges two things..

ReadMore:
[link to sincedutch.wordpress.com]
 Quoting: IwantToBelieve76


I KNEW it! The MOON is spinning faster, especially

synopsis plz! In Freakin English Is it that the roation of the moon is off or has the wobble it has now changed in sum meaningfull way what about the orbit cycle? Does this effect the earth?
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I AM trying to educate myself, but name calling does everybody a disservice, you included, no matter how much you back peddle.
 Quoting: Watchamacallit


Backpedaling? You don't know me. I'm most certainly not backpedaling.

The EU "theory" is garbage created by idiotic crackpots who I wouldn't let rewire my table lamp.
It is laughable. It is a sad farce. It only appeals to other crackpots and the scientifically illiterate "seeker".
It cannot produce a planetary orbit.
It cannot explain fundamental, incoherent, internal flaws.
It is a figment of the imagination of a looney Velikovskyite.
It hasn't produced one model in all these years because it can't. It's garbage. It's fantasy. It's all words and no substance. It's a lie. It has the Time Cube as a peer. It can't be published because there is nothing to publish except pages and pages of words from a blithering idiot. Science journals do not publish random rantings of internet kOOks.

It's crap. It is the sludge at the bottom of your septic tank. A thousand monkeys banging on keyboards could produce something more intellegent. It has no more relation to reality than a Batman comic book.

It's a joke.

Have I made myself clear?

Don't fall for it in your ignorance of science. Educate yourself.


R.
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but you can't explain the coronal problem? you can't explain why sunspots showing the innards of the sun show us a dark thing? you can't acknowledge birkeland currents or that every text book downplays electricity of every nebula known to man, saying it's just energized particles? I call what you believe in a joke, crap, garbage. Have I made myself clear oh shillington shillsworth?
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All the experiments assume you have a medium, which is air. I'm talking about space, the void. You didn't get that?
 Quoting: Watchamacallit

What is the speed of heat in air?
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Well, got this seconds ago via Twitter from Dutchsinse




[link to adsabs.harvard.edu]


Download PDF here:
[link to arxiv.org]


"Dutchsinse:"

They explain in this paper from Cornell University that THEY CANNOT EXPLAIN why the moon is showing an “accelerating phenomenon”.

They do calculations based upon the location of “X” .. X being the distant point where the supposed “planet x / nemesis / tyche” is located.

This paper acknowledges two things..

ReadMore:
[link to sincedutch.wordpress.com]
 Quoting: IwantToBelieve76

Zetas right again!
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All the experiments assume you have a medium, which is air. I'm talking about space, the void. You didn't get that?
 Quoting: Watchamacallit

What is the speed of heat in air?
book
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why air? i'm talking a vacuum, the lack of air? are you shillin me? or just playing games with me, the simple minded? keep it simple stupid, for the stupid like me.
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All the experiments assume you have a medium, which is air. I'm talking about space, the void. You didn't get that?
 Quoting: Watchamacallit

What is the speed of heat in air?
book
 Quoting: Halcyon Dayz, FCD

why air? i'm talking a vacuum, the lack of air? are you shillin me? or just playing games with me, the simple minded? keep it simple stupid, for the stupid like me.
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Why can't you answer the question?
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All the experiments assume you have a medium, which is air. I'm talking about space, the void. You didn't get that?
 Quoting: Watchamacallit

What is the speed of heat in air?
book
 Quoting: Halcyon Dayz, FCD

why air? i'm talking a vacuum, the lack of air? are you shillin me? or just playing games with me, the simple minded? keep it simple stupid, for the stupid like me.
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Why can't you answer the question?
book
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because I don't know the answer to your question.
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but you can't explain the coronal problem? you can't explain why sunspots showing the innards of the sun show us a dark thing? you can't acknowledge birkeland currents or that every text book downplays electricity of every nebula known to man, saying it's just energized particles? I call what you believe in a joke, crap, garbage. Have I made myself clear oh shillington shillsworth?
 Quoting: Watchamacallit


Ahh, it's all clear now.

You're not a seeker, you're an EUtard.
An ignorant, arrogant, dimwitted, innumerate EUtard who doesn't even know the first thing about science let alone the theory he's trying to replace with Grade-A Codswallop.

What possesses people with 3rd grade educations to presume to delve into extremely technical subjects when it's quite obvious their favourite pastime is crawling out of their caves on a clear night to throw rocks at the moon?

Tell me genius, what coronal problem?
And I see you've discovered that you can see into the interior of the sun by looking into those "dark things" called sunspots. Pure genius. You should apply for the Nobel Prize since you are perhaps the only loon on the planet who thinks such. You should apply in the category - Electrotard.

Tell me all you know about Birkeland currents. I have a couple seconds.

Nebula have electricity? Do they intermittantly light up like storm clouds when lightning flashes in them? How many years have you spent observing this phenomena? What equipment did you use? What nebula did you observe? This is astounding information.

And that part about electricity being just energized particles. That's very, very good. You're doing a wonderful job of imitating a 5 year old.

I suppose we should bow to your superiour knowledge; after all, who wants to cross swords with someone who doesn't even know how heat radiates? I mean, if I were 4 years old you'd have my utmost respect.

Once you get this heat thing figured out maybe we can discuss the difference between distance, velocity, and acceleration. You could probably show me how to derive the fundamental equations, couldn't you.
BTW, what do they call the photons released in nuclear reactions again?

Do me a favour and point out the giant battery that is hooked up to the Sun to keep all those electrons streaming into it, even though we measure electrons streaming out of it with our spacecraft. That seems to be a problem for EU but I'm sure you'll come up with something comical to explain it.

While your at it, explain what happens to electrons when they fall from Vinf to the Sun's surface through a potential of 10^30 volts. I think it's 10^30 volts. I calculated it, back of envelope, a few years ago but you could probably give me the more accurate figure. Do you know why this voltage is needed? It has something to do with charged particles. That sent a thrill up your EU-loving spine, didn't it? In any event, explain to the readership why this EMF is needed for the EU theory.

When your done with that, we'll get into some of the trickier aspects of the EU fantasy. Polarization and all that. Well, I don't want to spoil it too soon.

Tard.

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but you can't explain the coronal problem? you can't explain why sunspots showing the innards of the sun show us a dark thing? you can't acknowledge birkeland currents or that every text book downplays electricity of every nebula known to man, saying it's just energized particles? I call what you believe in a joke, crap, garbage. Have I made myself clear oh shillington shillsworth?
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Ahh, it's all clear now.

You're not a seeker, you're an EUtard.
An ignorant, arrogant, dimwitted, innumerate EUtard who doesn't even know the first thing about science let alone the theory he's trying to replace with Grade-A Codswallop.

What possesses people with 3rd grade educations to presume to delve into extremely technical subjects when it's quite obvious their favourite pastime is crawling out of their caves on a clear night to throw rocks at the moon?

Tell me genius, what coronal problem?
And I see you've discovered that you can see into the interior of the sun by looking into those "dark things" called sunspots. Pure genius. You should apply for the Nobel Prize since you are perhaps the only loon on the planet who thinks such. You should apply in the category - Electrotard.

Tell me all you know about Birkeland currents. I have a couple seconds.

Nebula have electricity? Do they intermittantly light up like storm clouds when lightning flashes in them? How many years have you spent observing this phenomena? What equipment did you use? What nebula did you observe? This is astounding information.

And that part about electricity being just energized particles. That's very, very good. You're doing a wonderful job of imitating a 5 year old.

I suppose we should bow to your superiour knowledge; after all, who wants to cross swords with someone who doesn't even know how heat radiates? I mean, if I were 4 years old you'd have my utmost respect.

Once you get this heat thing figured out maybe we can discuss the difference between distance, velocity, and acceleration. You could probably show me how to derive the fundamental equations, couldn't you.
BTW, what do they call the photons released in nuclear reactions again?

Do me a favour and point out the giant battery that is hooked up to the Sun to keep all those electrons streaming into it, even though we measure electrons streaming out of it with our spacecraft. That seems to be a problem for EU but I'm sure you'll come up with something comical to explain it.

While your at it, explain what happens to electrons when they fall from Vinf to the Sun's surface through a potential of 10^30 volts. I think it's 10^30 volts. I calculated it, back of envelope, a few years ago but you could probably give me the more accurate figure. Do you know why this voltage is needed? It has something to do with charged particles. That sent a thrill up your EU-loving spine, didn't it? In any event, explain to the readership why this EMF is needed for the EU theory.

When your done with that, we'll get into some of the trickier aspects of the EU fantasy. Polarization and all that. Well, I don't want to spoil it too soon.

Tard.

R.
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haha you just made yourself out to be the fool you are lol, thanks for the laughs o wise one! you're simply priceless! get all bent of yuwah wittle shape at the mention of the simplicity of the EU? it's so obvious even a caveman neantherdal can do it, except you of course lol go back inside your mother's cave and wait for the next obelisk to give insight, you baboon!
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I would like to hear why Comets sometimes produce X Rays. Are Mini Black Holes energizing them?
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The Limits of Gravitational Theory

The Law of Gravity, which relies exclusively on the masses of celestial bodies and the distances between them, works very well for explaining planetary and satellite motions within our solar system. But when astronomers tried to apply it to galaxies and clusters of galaxies, it turns out that nearly 90% of the mass necessary to account for the observed motion is missing.

The trouble began in 1933 when astronomer Fritz Zwicky calculated the mass-to-light ratio for 8 galaxies in the Coma Cluster of the Coma Berenices (“Berenices’s hair”) constellation. At the time, it was assumed that the amount of visible light coming from stars should be proportional to their masses (a concept called “visual equilibrium”). As Zwicky was to realize, the apparent rapid velocities of the galaxies, around their common center of mass (“barycenter”), suggested that much more mass than could be seen was required to keep the galaxies from flying out of the cluster.

Zwicky concluded that the missing mass must therefore be invisible or “dark”. Other astronomers, such as Sinclair Smith (who performed calculations on the Virgo Cluster in 1936) began to find similar problems. To make matters worse, in the 1970′s, radial velocity plots (radius from the center versus stars’ speed of rotation) for stars in the Milky Way galaxy revealed that the speeds flatten out rather than trail down, implying that velocity continues to increase with radius, contrary to what Newton’s Law of Gravity predicts for, and which is observed in, the Solar System.

In short, astronomers using the Gravity Model were forced to add a lot more mass to every galaxy than can be detected at any wavelength. They called this extra matter “dark”; its existence can only be inferred from the failure of predictions. To cover for the insufficiency they gave themselves a blank check, a license to place this imagined stuff wherever needed to make the gravitational model work.

Other mathematical conjectures followed. Assumptions about the redshift of objects in space led to the conclusion that the universe is expanding. Then other speculations led to the notion that the expansion is accelerating. Faced with an untenable situation, astronomers postulated a completely new kind of matter, an invisible “something” that repels rather than attracts. Since Einstein equated mass with energy (E = mc²), this new kind of matter was interpreted as being of a form of mass that acts like pure energy — regardless of the fact that if the matter has no mass it can have no energy according to the equation. Astronomers called it “dark energy”, assigning to it an ability to overcome the very gravity on which the entire theoretical edifice rested.

Dark energy is thought to be something like an electrical field, with one difference. Electric fields are detectable by the photons they emit and the magnetic fields they generate, while dark energy seems to emit nothing and nothing it purportedly does is revealed through a magnetic field. One suggestion is that some property of empty space is responsible. But empty space, by definition, contains no matter and therefore has no energy. The concept of dark energy is philosophically unsound and is a poignant reminder that the gravity-only model never came close to the original expectations for it.

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I would like to hear why Comets sometimes produce X Rays. Are Mini Black Holes energizing them?
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We had no clear expectation that comets [would] shine in X-rays

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The Limits of Gravitational Theory

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Yeah, keep reading thunderdolts till the two brain cells you have evaporate in an EU Plasmagoric Lightning Bolt.

Tell me Thunderdolt, where do these electrons that power the sun come from?

How come we don't measure them? Are they invisible electrons?

How come the electrons we do measure (in the solar wind) are all streaming away from the sun?

How large an emf is required to continue to collect electrons on the sun's surface at the measured power level for the sun?

How fast are these electrons travelling as they approach the inner solar system?

What happens to electrons at that velocity?

Why isn't the night sky glowing brightly from these accelerated electrons in both visible and xray?

Seems you've got a problem in that what we observe doesn't match what your "theory" says we should.

Tard.


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Comet Introduction

The strength and rapid changes in intensity of the comet's X-ray emission both surprised and puzzled astronomers. "We had no clear expectation that comets shine in X-rays," said ...
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