DUTCHSINSE — Moon verified to be out of place — ‘Lunar Anomaly’ — Planet X / Tyche / Nemesis would have to be 30AU

It's not their base, just like Fast and Furious is not their project.

the moon does have a very very thin atmosphere


Lunar Atmosphere

Diurnal temperature range: >100 K to <400 K (roughly -250 F to +250 F)
Total mass of atmosphere: ~25,000 kg
Surface pressure (night): 3 x 10-15 bar (2 x 10-12 torr)
Abundance at surface: 2 x 105 particles/cm3

Estimated Composition (particles per cubic cm):
Helium 4 (4He) - 40,000 ; Neon 20 (20Ne) - 40,000 ; Hydrogen (H2) - 35,000
Argon 40 (40Ar) - 30,000 ; Neon 22 (22Ne) - 5,000 ; Argon 36 (36Ar) - 2,000
Methane - 1000 ; Ammonia - 1000 ; Carbon Dioxide (CO2) - 1000
Trace Oxygen (O+), Aluminum (Al+), Silicon (Si+)
Possible Phosphorus (P+), Sodium (Na+), Magnesium (Mg+)

Composition of the tenuous lunar atmosphere is poorly known and variable,
these are estimates of the upper limits of the nighttime ambient atmosphere
composition. Daytime levels were difficult to measure due to heating and
outgassing of Apollo surface experiments.

[link to nssdc.gsfc.nasa.gov]

No.
It's a site pointing out the author's apophenia, and his extreme case of I-want-to-believe-itis.


People are called morans because they're stupid.
Being as gullible as you can have no other explanation.

You're one to talk about lying anyway.
How's your telescope coming along?

It's not as if they ever denied its existence. It's right there in the mission report.
My guess is NASA doesn't actually know what it was about.

That'd be my guess too.

Last Edited by Astromut on 11/17/2011 10:37 PM

i challenge you all to a duel! meet me at noon at the square.

*throws gauntlet down*

Wow. It didn't even REGISTER! LoL!

And I replied to it.

Nope. To prove the Moon has no atmosphere and Mars does only takes a small telescope. Watch as both the Moon and Mars pass in front of a star, it is called an occultation. The star that goes behind the Moon will have no dimming before it disappears. Behind Mars it will show appreciable dimming as the light is slowly obscured by the atmosphere.

Why would it be dark a few feet away? The Sun is the source of the light. Look at the Moon. It is a little bit of Sun here, none over there. There is a regular progression of the terminator as the Moon rotates. The Apollo mission landed with Sun angles between 15 and 25 degrees above the horizon, to avoid the hottest part of the lunar day. The ground where they landed would be uniformily illuminated except for variation caused by terrain-hills.

What do you mean "tracjed back on Earth"? that doesn't make much sense unless you are trying to say we could photograph the lunar landing site from Earth. Sorry. That doesn't work. It takes something like a 20-30 meter telescope to resolve the lunar lander from Earth. It is rather small. The landing sites have been photographed from lunar orbit

[link to www.nasa.gov]

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[link to www.impactlab.net]

Last Edited by F=ma on 11/18/2011 06:58 AM

No one said that. An atmosphere scatters the light making the sky bright. A flashlight works just fine in a vacuum and will illuminate any object the light falls one. The surface of the Moon is illuminated by the Sun

The military does keep military secrets but that has nothing to do with Area 51 or NASA. It is the same argument as saying the Coca Cola company keeps the formula for Coca Cola secret therefore NASA lies.

But there is noway the website you are pointing us to could lie? What a tool.

NASA test pilots are former Air Forces pilots. So what? If an ex-Air Force pilot gets a job at McDonalds does that mean they are in cahoots?

Wow. Pilots see craft fly out of an air base. What will happen next? Cars pulling out of gas stations?

How is refurbishing aircraft proof they work together. But, yes of course they work together. They are both agencies of the same government. No one has ever said they didn't work together. Like saying you did something bad because you worked together with your brother. And the fist A in NASA means aeronautic. That means aircraft and flight something the Air Force is slightly interested in.

So if you go up to a military officer and ask them about a top secret military operation and they tell you it doesn't exist you do what? Yes the military keeps secrets. That is not an unheard of concept. If military secrets get let out people can die. Is that what you are trying to do? Come on man, think.

Because it is silly nonsense that anyone with a brain knows is a complete lie. Why do you believe lies?

F=MA, I don't lie. I tell what I know.

You tell what is conventional and "PC-doctrine."

Well, reality is about to give you a correction.

The Moon is showing accelerating phenomenon

because it has an engine and two propellors.

That is absolutely true, like it or not.

I'm not the one lying: NASA is an ad agency for NSA/NRO.

They're the ones lying.


EEWC

What accelerating phenomenon?
[link to www.godlikeproductions.com]

lol

Propellers don't work in a vacuum.

I don't think you can read. The original question was "What does NASA have to do with secret Air Force bases?"

And the answer is: well, everything.

NASA and the Air Force work in joint projects together to build aircraft all the time. It's not uncommon. In fact, during the FIRST competitions that NASA hosts, they have Air Force members come in and talk about how science and the military can pay for your college. Lots of engineers in the Air Force work with NASA.

If you knew anything about Area 51 conspiracies, the idea is that both NASA and the Air Force work there together to not only build military craft, but craft that is capable of flying out of the Earth's atmosphere. This is also based upon witnesses that live near the base.

What you did manage to scan when you read my comment, was the second paragraph about NASA pilots at an Air Force base seeing craft fly from Area 51. What you didn't get was the relevance. (NASA pilots working at an Air Force base) if you didn't get it the second go round as well.

Now replying to your second comment, because for whatever reason you were unable to get all your thoughts out on the first one. I am aware that people aren't allowed to speak about secret military operations. In fact, I think it's safe to assume that MOST people are aware of that. It still doesn't change the most basic fact, which is that they ARE lying if they say it isn't there.

The reason this is signifigant, is because we rely on NASA for anything beyond the realm of the typical ameture. If they have to bend to the will of an armed force, it becomes hard to trust all their data.

Do you get it now?

There IS NO VACUUM. Nowhere. Noplace.

Space is FULL with 90+% "invisible dark matter."

Space is an OCEAN of particles of all configurations.

Just because OUR INSTRUMENTS are incapable of sensing
what is out there, doesn't mean, there's nothing out there.

I believe you're stuck in secular materialism, and it's strangulating your ability to visualize what is true.



EEWC

No. I can read just fine. You forgot what you wrote:

Several NASA test pilots worked at Air Force bases near Area 51 in the '60s-'70s and seen craft fly from there

To which I responded:

Wow. Pilots see craft fly out of an air base. What will happen next? Cars pulling out of gas stations?

Do you get it now?

What you don't get is the NASA pilots are Air Force and Navy pilots. Look up the history of the program.

Last Edited by F=ma on 11/18/2011 02:37 PM

Wait, wait...

The Moon has two propellers?

And I thought no one could have less intellect than DitchWeed...

I sense a new moon smiley coming on...

Alas!

You have further proven the original point.. which was that NASA and the Air Force work together all the time! Good job.

Obvious man, is obvious...

The Nibiru debunkers are one big earth quake away from having their pants pulled down.

And you guys have been predicting that for years (saying it will happen SOOOOON), and yet it still hasn't happened.

Wow, I was first looking at this and saying "ok, moving faster". Things are a happening all over our solar system. Personally, I do not know what it is, but when I see all you guys trying to systematically beat down these folks here the first things that come to mind is "maybe they are right" why else would/could you answer so many posts so quickly if you didn't this ready to cut 'n' paste?

I didn't read all the pages, but do you all agree with what the paper says or is it also B.S.??

Regards,
DDan