The Truth of Our Origins... Ass Loads of Evidence Pointing Towards Us Being an Engineered Species!

PART TWO HERE! Thread: The Truth of Our Origins... PART TWO!!


Everything you know is WRONG. The government is corrupt, science is invalid, and religion is irrational.

Please be aware that I am obligated to question
mostly science in this thread. I am very spiritual
and I try to help and ease as many as I can
through this small spark of consciousness
I call my life.

(Sorry for posting so late! Im on a trip to Florida to visit some old friends. It has taken me almost 4-5 hours, pecking at the keyboard on my phone.)

When you seek a path to any new truth, you must
expect to find it blocked by ‘expert opinion.’
Albert Guérard

An emotional plague afflicts people whose belief
systems are so rigid they ignore relevant facts and
become enraged if anyone challenges their beliefs.
Wilhelm Reich

When one gets in bed with government, one must expect the diseases it spreads.
Ron Paul

For every PhD., there is an equal and opposite PhD.
Gibson’s Law

Anyone can pilot an improbability, but it takes a special
touch to fly and safely land an absurdity.
Kurt Kuzba

A genius is someone who aims at a target no one else
can see—and hits it!
Anthony Quinn

The main purpose of science is to investigate the
unexplained, not to explain the uninvestigated.
Dr. Stephen Rorke



You can sum up the entirety of this document as being
the answer to the question.. "If Bigfoot exists, along
with 3 other types, then if all 4 early "prehuman"
bones belong to them... How did we get here?

I am going to break down the "Intervention Theory
in 3 phases...

How life became on Earth. Who are the Hominids,
and a general conclusion. I will try to
keep everything short. You guys are lucky
I am pecking at the keyboard rather than
screaming in some of your faces... =]

So, again, instead of me screaming..."WE ARE
A GENETICALLY ENGINEERED SPECIES..
WANT PROOF!?!" in your faces like I
normally do to people, Please check out
any other breaking news, and hopefully
return and continue on down below
for some more shocking research. 

The supreme arrogance of religious thinking is that a
carbon-based bag of mostly water on a speck of ironsilicate
dust around a boring dwarf star in a minor
galaxy in an unfashionable suburb of (our) supercluster
would look up at the sky and declare: “It was all made
so that I could exist!”
Peter Walker

Statements made by alternative researchers like
me are automatically contradicted by scientists
insisting we are not simply wrong, but stupidly
wrong. They further insist we have no right to
challenge their cherished beliefs because our
only “credentials” are an unwarranted faith in
our ability to discern truth from nonsense.

[This doesn’t refer to all scientists. Some still
willingly risk reputation and security to explore
topics that defy dogma. However, they are few.]
Every point I discuss is supported by facts in
available research, but I am often criticized by
skeptics. Why? Because the issues I discuss are
long-lived sacred cows to mainstream sciences.

Creationists of all kinds, which includes the
smarter, more reasonable, and typically
wellcredentialed Intelligent Design proponents,
insist the only answer to questions about the
origins of life or humans is: “God did it!”

Darwinists of all stripes insist with equal zeal
that their pet theory of evolution best explains
how life originated. Their 150-year-old dogma
asserts: “It just happened—poof!—like magic!”
After the magic moment when life kick-started
itself into existence, it initiated a self-contained
and imperceptibly slow-but-steady growth into
ever more complex forms, until those reached
the apex of an arduous climb—humanity.

In contrast, Interventionists like me and my hero
Lloyd Pye, anchor our search for origins on
evidence rather than faith, on logic rather
than magic. We don’t think that God did it,
or that life spontaneously generated.

For us, evidence and logic point to the same
“outside intervention” Intelligent Designers
see. However, where they feel the only outside
source of intervention must be God (whom they
are careful to not mention by name), we suggest
another, bolder explanation: “They did it!”

Who are “They”? The currently favored term is
Aliens—non-human, non-Earth-based entities.
With Lloyd Pye's permission to cliff most
of his material, I will try to make a valid
point... That we, as a species are in
fact an oddball of mother nature.

The sad truth is that in every field of science,
Young Turks have to serve their leaders when
those leaders are the oldest, crustiest, and most
conservative members of the field. Then, when
those old “defenders of the faith” die out, what
were once Young Turks take over for them and
are forced to defend the same bankrupt faith.

Now, what about the origin of life? When did it
occur? How did it occur? The mainstream gives
two options and rejects a third: 

(1) They accept as a possibility Undirected Panspermia.
This is the idea that life “drifts” across space carried
on asteroids or meteors that crashed into Earth.

(2) They support the idea that life originates by
Spontaneous Generation. This idea is that life
was created by sheer chance when a lightning
bolt struck a “warm pond” (a term coined by
Charles Darwin) filled with what came to be
called “primordial soup,” a form of witches’
brew containing the “building blocks” of life.

Experts insist that somehow, someway, those
original molecules managed to spontaneously
reassemble into ever more complex molecules
that somehow, someway, formed themselves
into the single cells of the earliest life forms.

The fact that spontaneous self-assembly into
complex molecules does not happen now, nor
can it be forced to happen in coherent patterns
in the most sophisticated laboratories on Earth,
should be an indication that this theory, like the
gravity-based one of cosmologists, needs work.
British astrophysicist Fred Hoyle summed up
the problem neatly when he said the likelihood
of a lightning bolt striking water to assemble
simple molecules into a life form was equal to
the likelihood of a tornado sweeping through a
junkyard and correctly assembling a jetliner.

The third option, which the mainstream rejects,
is Directed Panspermia, which is similar to
undirected Panspermia, except that the first life
forms were guided here by higher intelligence.
Thus, the mainstream hangs its hat on a miracle
worthy of God when a lightning bolt struck the
“primordial soup” to forge basic molecules into
simple life—or on a similarly unlikely miracle
that simple life forms came here on meteors.
The lightning-bolt-hits-primordial-soup theory
is still taught around the world, but not because
mainstream scientists regard it seriously. They
know as well as anyone how absurd it sounds.

Unfortunately, they have no choice but to fake
conviction about it because they have no other
theory to take its place. Some few scientists do
admit they have no plausible idea, but most of
them insist on riding the same old lame horse.
Like the equations of the cosmologists, which
required “miracles” to make sense, the same is
true for biologists. The same kinds of miracles
are fudge-factored in to explain life, when they
have answers that are as easy to grasp as the
difference between gravity and electricity.

In the same way cosmologists stick with the
mistake of gravity, biology’s mistake, the core
of its ossified dogma, is that every aspect of life
on Earth must be accounted for in a “natural”
manner, in strictly terrestrial terms. To explain
life by using “outside” factors is unacceptable,
so alternate ideas are automatically discounted.

Its like the "Guilty until proven Innocent" of science.

Despite automatic rejection, alternative ideas
for the origin of life make a much stronger case
than biological dogma. Such ideas also hew far
more closely to the actual facts of life than do
the fantasies created by imaginative scientists.
Life did not start by accident when lightning
struck a warm pond of primordial soup. Its start
was so unlikely, experts can’t begin to explain
it rationally, so rather than try, they obscure it.

What Happened At 2.0 BYA?
As if on cue, with oxygen present after the end
of the first Snowball Earth, a new form of life
appeared to live alongside the prokaryotes—the
eukaryotes. To open minds, this could suggest
that the Intragalactic Terraformers were also
Life-Managers, or Overseers, or Manipulators.

I use the term “Terraformers” as others use
"aliens,” which produces negative connotations
in most media. “Terraformers” is more abstract
and benign. Also, more than one kind can exist.
If they are real, and if they did in fact develop
life and/or humans on Earth, then who are they?
And who created them? This leads to an endless
hall of mirrors echoing the same impossible-to answer
question: Who are their creators???

This brings up what is known as First Cause,
the starting place for all of everything—of life
and existence itself. No human actually knows
anything about it, and we probably never will.
I don’t know, religion doesn’t, and scientists
certainly don’t. Yet those institutions are forced
by their intense rivalry for hearts and minds to
pretend that they actually do know the answer.
Don’t believe either side. Religion and science
stand eyeball-to-eyeball and are too frightened
to blink, much less acknowledge any doubts or
weaknesses in their propaganda. But, luckily, I
don’t have those restrictions. I can busy myself
trying to discover what is actually knowable.

As with the prokaryotes, many kinds of the new
eukaryotes arrived suddenly, and exactly when
their much larger, vastly more complex singlecell
bodies were capable of thriving in the new
environment created by prokaryote metabolism.
Biologists insist this is how classic Darwinian
evolution works: when an environment presents
an open niche, Nature will fill it. Unfortunately
for them, evolution also requires “precursors,”
forms of life that provide a base upon which to
branch off a new form to fill an empty niche.
Prokaryotes are many things, but they can’t be
precursors for eukaryotes. A staggering number
of physical and biological differences between
them make a direct Darwinian “descent with
modification” impossible. 

It couldn’t happen, especially not “overnight,”
which is seemingly how fast they arrived.
Yet another miracle!
Because direct descent can’t be used, our
everimaginative “experts” came up with a
flight of fancy equal to anything the
cosmologists ever concocted to “explain”
gravity’s weaknesses.

They suggest eukaryotes must have originated
when larger prokaryotes became "cannibalistic"
and consumed smaller ones, turning those into
various functioning parts within their bodies,
including the crucial, essential mitochondria.
Is that theory likely? Not at all, not even in the
ballpark. Understand that a long list of complex
differences exists between the prokaryotes and
eukaryotes. Size is the most obvious one, but an
amazing array of metabolic advances (including
an encapsulated nucleus) appeared with them.

This idea is wild speculation, but many strident
people with a “Ph.D.” after their names insist it
had to occur, and they are not shy about calling
on “magic” and “miracles” to make their story
plausible. It’s not quite the same as “God did it
all!” but it does seem to come dubiously close.

However the eukaryotes appeared, though, they
were a huge leap forward from the prokaryotes.

Any one of you can do this yourself.
Translate the 4th tablet of the Sumerian
Creation Epic...The Enuma E'lish.

You will find that the people of Sumeria,
plausibly answer 6 of the worlds toughest
astronomical, and geological questions!

Scientists of all trades do not genuinely know
why our planet looks so much different, and
has tectonic plates unlike the others.

They do not know where the asteroid belt came from,
nor do they know why strange little Pluto
is around 20 degrees off our stellar ecliptic.

First. Earth was dubbed "Tiamat" in the epic.
They then say Nibiru (who is circling the sun
clockwise on a 3600 year orbit) crashed into Tiamat.
Tiamat cracked like an eggshell. This answers 4 of
the questions I believe. With Pluto having
been illustrated by the Sumerians to be
a moon of Saturn, before Nibiru pulled it away.

They also say that during the collision,
in the "mingling of their waters" Nibiru
passed life to Tiamat. (life being early bacterium)

They also say when looking down from the heavens
unto Uranus and Neptune, they seem like "blue
green watery twins"... how did they know that? 

Among other things...

(Yeah, I can write about 10 pages of red flags
the people of Sumeria bring to the table,
but that's another thread in entirety.

People. If you believe in bigfoot... you believe in the Intervention theory.

Why Can’t Hunters Find Them?

The Panda’s story is a perfect comparison with
hominoids because they live in the same kind of
habitat (montane forest) and terrain (mountains)
as bigfoot/sasquatch and the almas/kaptar types,
but their mountains are covered with bamboo.
Written references to hominoids go back for
hundreds of years, and such mentions are found
in nearly every country. But the mainstream of
each century has dismissed them as useless
prattle. The same was once true for Pandas.

Ancient Chinese manuscripts often mentioned a
creature known to them as a Bei-Shung, which
meant white-bear. They were usually described
precisely as they turned out to be: black-andwhite
bears living in the rugged mountains of
Sichuan, eating nothing but bamboo shoots.
Every Western authority “knew” bears were
omnivores, so the bamboo shoots were laughed
off. Also, they “knew” bears could be black or
brown or white, but surely not the black-andwhite
coloring described by Chinese natives.

Most importantly, no Western authority had
ever braved the rigors of traveling to China to
study the matter, so they felt amply qualified to
pronounce the Panda an amusing local legend.
Finally, after 2,000 years of unaccepted reports,
in 1869 a French missionary/naturalist named
Father Armand David made his way to Sichuan
Province. Like most naturalists, he knew of the
legendary Bei-Shung, and he believed “official”
assurances that duotoned, bamboo-eating bears
were a highly embellished Chinese fable.
Ultimately, Father David saw the full skin of
one hung on a wall in a village elder’s home!

Finding out where it came from, he hurried to
the Bei-Shung’s reported habitat, a bamboo
forest high in a forbidding mountain range.
Upon arrival, he tried to hire local hunters to
bring him a living specimen. The locals were
hesitant, saying the Bei-Shung lived in very
rugged terrain and were extremely difficult to
find and kill, much less to try to capture one.
Father David took their reluctance as a ploy to
extract more money from him, so he offered a
handsome bonus. Chinese were loathe to give
offense, so these agreed to take a crack at it.
In one of history’s great quirks of fate, after
only twelve days the Chinese hunters returned
with a living Bei-Shung they insisted had been
secured only by astounding good fortune.

Their protestations seemed unlikely, but Father
David didn’t care if they were embellishing the
difficulty of their task. He knew their captive
would make history worldwide, so he didn’t
concern himself with the circumstances of its
capture or the high price he had paid for it.
For as great as Father David’s good fortune was
with the capture, his luck soured in transporting
his prize back to France. After a few days on a
ship, the wild Bei-Shung became so agitated
that it began ramming itself relentlessly against
the cage bars, clearly intent on breaking free of
captivity or dying in the effort to escape.
For humanitarian and moral reasons, Father
David had no choice but to euthanize it. 

Having to kill his precious prize was a terrible
blow to Father David, who found solace knowing he
could still achieve his main goal of proving
beyond doubt that the Bei-Shungs did exist.
If he could do that much by himself, he knew,
well-equipped field teams would follow with
sufficient methods of extracting the living Bei-
Shungs they would no doubt easily capture.
He sent his “legend’s” preserved remains to a
Paris Museum, creating a worldwide sensation.
Presaging what will probably happen after the
first hominoid is officially presented in our own
time, the world’s foremost scientific institutions
in 1870 entered into a race to decide who would
put the first living Bei-Shung on display.

They sent legions of topnotch experts—hunters,
trappers, and scientists—swarming through the
mountainous regions of Sichuan, a region the
size of Arizona or Italy. All waited anxiously to
see who would be the first to bring one in….
And they waited . . . and waited. By 1900—31
years since Father David’s find—all museums
that financed expeditions had long since given
up. By 1910, western media had renamed the
Bei-Shungs Giant Pandas, and scientists had
shoved them back into the mists of “legend.”

Despite Father David’s stuffed specimen being
as real as it ever was, 41 years without so much
as a follow-up sighting convinced most experts
the panda was now extinct. Why? Because the
men who had searched for it were all highly
experienced woodsmen and skilled trappers.
Cavorting around bamboo forests in Sichuan’s
mountains looking for phantom pandas became
a frontier jaunt for daring sportsmen with time
and money to burn, like U. S. President Teddy
Roosevelt’s two sons, Teddy, Jr., and Kermit.
In 1929, exactly 60 years after Father David’s
misadventure, Teddy spied a panda in a tree
and shot it, sending a bullet through that poor
animal to puncture innumerable scientific egos,
and giving it an iconic name—Teddy’s bear.

Guys... It took a whole generation of time
to find a bear that is dumber than a box of rocks
eating bamboo..

Again, whats the most annoying question
to Interventionists? "If "Bigfoot" exists, then
why don't they have bones and fossils!?
Why haven't some hunters gone out and killed any?

#1. Did some of you know that there is not
ONE FOSSILIZED BONE OF A CHIMPANZEE? It is almost
impossible to manifest a fossil in such a dense
active area of land with such high diversity and heat.

#2 OK! lets go find a Bigfoot! Lets start by
foot-surveying 40% of the "uninhabited land" we
do not populate, then lets finally conduct a
thorough search through the vast expanse of the
lower montane areas to try to find a nocturnal
freak of nature, that is no doubt bigger,
faster, stronger, and believe me... Smarter
(in their element) than we are...

Again, We couldn't find a godforsaken bear eating
bamboo for nearly 100 years, before we finally
found one, they were considered mythological creatures.

With case in point, I will continue this thread tomorrow. I will first revise and proofread what I have already posted, then I will move on to the next phase. Thats if your interested of course.

Last Edited by Heretic_333 on 02/17/2012 07:26 PM