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Anonymous Coward User ID: 1173127 Portugal 11/17/2011 11:17 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: The Truth of Our Origins... Ass Loads of Evidence Pointing Towards Us Being an Engineered Species! The Truth of Our Origins... Ass Loads of Evidence Pointing Towards Us Being an Engineered Species! Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1173127 That’s only a small part of the Truth. And not even the most important. All the rest of your post is irrelevant because it doesn’t give you any real clue where to look. Keep digging… somewhere else that is. You can start right here at GLP. ;) You’ll find it. You mean what I posted is just a small part. If I posted everything I knew, It would be alot of pages dude. I started today out with, how life got here, and where WE came from. Ill have much much more tomorrow you guys. No. I meant that the fact human beings are an engineered species is only a tiny part of the Truth. You have no clue how life got here. Sorry. Then tell us... I already did. The vaults of GLP are a wealth of information. |
quest User ID: 1482722 United States 11/17/2011 11:31 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: The Truth of Our Origins... Ass Loads of Evidence Pointing Towards Us Being an Engineered Species! The Sumerians dont say who created their gods, the Annunaki. Quoting: Heretic_333 But other tribes have scratched words with literal translations. I think the 'old Gods' were what the Neanderthal evolved into, or some other now 'extinct' race. That was relatively smart and high tech. And mainly were not warlike, so they had time to build pyramids, and study the stars. - - - {This is a story about the way things might have been.} Origin Story Long long ago there were various races of 'Early Man'. Among them were the 'Cro-Magnon' and 'Neanderthals' The Cro-Magnon (and what ever other subraces they consisted of by then) were a warlike peoples, who often fought among themselves. They were proud warriors. Tribes fought one another. It was expected. It was the way things were. It was Honorable! It was their recreation. Their sport, and the victor was very amply rewarded by the land, the possessions, indeed the very enemy themselves made the finest meal. The loser found Death, and/or Slavery. But they played the game too. This like an ultimate sport. No wooses here. Probably this warring occupied the majority of their time. They got very good at it, but they didn't have a lot of time for many other things. The Tribe was family, they all worked together for common betterment and defense/victory over other tribes. The size of the tribe was very important. The bigger the tribe, the more warriors they had. Those who weren't warriors could gather resources, Etc. Bearing children was very important, very respected, very encouraged. Generally it was simply the bigger tribe wins the war. Bearing as many children as was reasonably possible, became the standard. It was selected for by evolution, and by socialization. There was never really a down side to it. If a tribe ran low on resources they expanded to new territory. If a tribe ever filled the area withing some geographical bound, and ran low on resources they fought among themselves, a/o died off until the resources could again support the population. The Neanderthals (and/or whatever other races they were comprised of) were a peaceful people. They had disputes over dominance, and such, but they never hurt each other intentionally. They only learned the art of fighting for dealing with animals. They were like one big tribe of little tribes. There were disputes but they cooperated. They had a relatively lot of time, to spend compared to Cro-Magnon because they never warred among themselves. For their recreation they dug tunnels and built pyramids and monuments. They got very good at it. It was like their 'national effort'. Where we went to the Moon, they built Giant pyramids, and stuff. There were various smaller units of 'family' and 'tribe'. But everybody was 'the good guys'. They were all on the same side. But the size, of the tribe, the population density was very important. They could and did move to new territory. But to a large extent they just matched their population to the resources. They didn't need extra people for armies. They didn't like seeing each other starve, so they didn't make so many people when resources were scarce. This too was selected for by evolution. Those not controlling their density would ecologically ruin the neighborhood, and the catastrophe was much worse on their survival than a less dense but more stable smaller population. When these two people met. The Cro-Magnon saw a new tribe to conquer. New and better stuff to loot. And, they were 'easy picks'. The Neanderthal saw hell on Earth. Carnivores as smart as them, and of numbers unimaginable. The Cro-Magnon had a jolly fine time. The Neanderthals were not at all experienced fighting other people. And mainly they were in pitifully small numbers. The Neanderthal ran or died. Even if they had the fighting skills, the numbers of the invaders were so great winning the fight was not an option. They ran, and they hid, and they 'moved on'. Basically they ran and they ran all over the uninhabited land. Or/and they died. Trying to defend themselves, and their property. The Cro-Magnon liked the fine big pyramids and stuff they built, and,, they liked the way they looked naked. They let some of them live, to build pyramids and stuff, and to have sex with. They say Neanderthal never made it to an unprimitive man shape. But I think some of these rumors of these tall red headed peoples are latter day Neanderthals. I think they cremated their dead., so there is not a lot but the pyramids and the monuments, to notice of them. They do live on, in modern man. Modern man to various degrees incorporate their basic nature and society. But they still tend to think like a bunch of hippies, and now there is really no place left to run to. :( |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 5553230 India 11/17/2011 11:52 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: The Truth of Our Origins... Ass Loads of Evidence Pointing Towards Us Being an Engineered Species! ... Quoting: Heretic_333 You mean what I posted is just a small part. If I posted everything I knew, It would be alot of pages dude. I started today out with, how life got here, and where WE came from. Ill have much much more tomorrow you guys. No. I meant that the fact human beings are an engineered species is only a tiny part of the Truth. You have no clue how life got here. Sorry. Then tell us... I already did. The vaults of GLP are a wealth of information. Nay you didn't, you're too much of an anonymous coward to do that. Get off the net now, Joao, it's time for your meds!! |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 3688394 United States 11/17/2011 12:42 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: The Truth of Our Origins... Ass Loads of Evidence Pointing Towards Us Being an Engineered Species! Hey Heretic. I didn't read it all. That's why I comment only the first part of your post. ( reading the rest later) what i read so far is great stuff, and thanks for your effort. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1700525 You state, that we are genetically engineered, like ancient alien theorists are tellin us. I believed that too, for quite some time. But after my last trip, combined amanita muscaria with psylocibin, I had another inspirational idea. Ilater i found out david wilcock is stating the exact same thing. Here it goes: humans did not evolve slowly into their current state, neither were we genetically manipulated into our current state. Our structure, and that of every other living thing (i.e plants, animals, planets, atoms) comes from a blueprint which exists in the vibrational or astral field that animates all matter, forming the different specimen (wilcock calls it "the source field") Every galaxy has it's own source field, forming its own species. So it's highly likely that aliens (and alien plants) outside this planet are looking exactly or very much like us because we share the same blueprints. The genetic manipulation story is just another blatant attempt by the archons to brainwash us into thinking they are our gods. They aren't. We are a product of this planet, and that is why i'd never leave the planet in an alien spaceship. I hear ya AC, although.... David Wicock is featured in the Ancient Aliens TV series. So wtf? "Who is.... David Wilcock?" He sticks out among the rest for a reason. They will unveil him soon enough. |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 1309522 Canada 11/17/2011 02:06 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: The Truth of Our Origins... Ass Loads of Evidence Pointing Towards Us Being an Engineered Species! BUMPITY BUMP.... BTW - this thread only suggests that evolution is not ENOUGH to explain how we got here. It does not deny the existence of the functional process known as evolution, just insists that there also are appear to be other potentially external influences. What we are criticizing is not evolution, only the slavish devotion to a particular VIEW of evolution that excludes these possibilities. |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 1552380 United Kingdom 11/18/2011 07:00 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: The Truth of Our Origins... Ass Loads of Evidence Pointing Towards Us Being an Engineered Species! Evolution has been supported by archaeology, anthropology, paleontology, paleoanthropology and biology. You could say that no discipline, discovery, theory or philosophy of science provides any challenge to evolution. In fact, evolution has been argued to be the most solidly and widely supported theory in science. That has absolutely nothing to do with it being pushed like a dogma. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1552380 Now, for example, some random guy comes along and says all you guys must be wrong: all he has to support his claims are some crazy interpretations of some tablets and texts that does not even use the "dictionary" we have found that tells us what they say, nor even address' it. Then you wonder why people like this are not taken seriously? Why they are told to GTFO by the scientific community? I wonder how many scientific papers regarding the origins of coded DNA OP has read? Does he even understand the theories that attepmt to explain it? Because he didn't even understand the basic accpeted Evolution position which has nothing to do with origins of life... Come correct, man... Excuse me, "and all the guy has is tablets" Dear sir, I think today, I posted .0001 of direct memory. And If you are only trying the means of Intervention to credit the existence of ET's let me spare you some time. I wonder how many scientific papers regarding the origins of coded DNA OP has read? How about you read mine... a few hints, if you wish, (speaking) as a “DNA Deep Throat.” First, look up the huge discontinuities between humans and the various apes for: (1) Whole mitochondrial DNA; (2) genes for the Rh Factor; (3) and human Y chromosomes, among others. Regarding #3, I refer you to K.D. Smith’s 1987 study titled “Repeated DNA sequences of the human Y chromosome.” It says “Most human Y chromosome sequences thus far examined do not have homologues [same relative position or structure] on the Y chromosomes of other primates.” Human female X chromosomes do look somewhat apelike, but not the male’s Y. This means that if humans are a crossbred species, the cross had to be between a female ape-like creature (i.e, “creature of Earth”) and a male being from elsewhere. What the evolutionists do is find certain genes which look very similar between man and ape, then they make a “tree of descent” while ignoring those huge impassable abysses of difference elsewhere. Also, by certain methods of DNA dating, one can tell that numerous genes have been recently added to the human genome. If workers in my field were to say such things openly, we would be ostracized and forced to live in a tent. Any work along these lines would be rejected without any form of appeal. So what can we do? Sincerely, DNA Deep Throat To make a hybrid creature, a female species of Earth with 48 and a species with elsewhere with 46. They just went to the second chromosome and fused two homologues together to take only one space. MY ENTIRE DNA analysis shall bore alot of people. So please let me stick with the bittersweet bigfeetsies for the next couple days. Its simpler to understand. The tablets example had nothing to do with you. The rest of your post doesn't prove anything that you have claimed to be right. "MY ENTIRE DNA analysis shall bore alot of people" Funny, because if it proves what you say it proves, it would be the biggest discovery in history... But of course, too boring... Your making claims you can't back up. You talk about science, but seem ignorant how that process works. You certainly havnt applied it here... |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 5495826 Canada 11/18/2011 11:25 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: The Truth of Our Origins... Ass Loads of Evidence Pointing Towards Us Being an Engineered Species! Since i remember i was asking every night before sleep what are we and after 45 year i finally had a dream that explain it all to me and that dream was not your ordinary type of dream it feel real just like i was watching the event from another perspective. Here is what i saw: Aliens that look just like us modify the dna of chimpanzee to accelerate evolution. That explain it all just go grab some documentary on chimpanzee social behavior and you will see how close we are. |
Heretic_333 (OP) User ID: 5640754 United States 11/18/2011 08:39 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: The Truth of Our Origins... Ass Loads of Evidence Pointing Towards Us Being an Engineered Species! Evolution has been supported by archaeology, anthropology, paleontology, paleoanthropology and biology. You could say that no discipline, discovery, theory or philosophy of science provides any challenge to evolution. In fact, evolution has been argued to be the most solidly and widely supported theory in science. That has absolutely nothing to do with it being pushed like a dogma. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1552380 Now, for example, some random guy comes along and says all you guys must be wrong: all he has to support his claims are some crazy interpretations of some tablets and texts that does not even use the "dictionary" we have found that tells us what they say, nor even address' it. Then you wonder why people like this are not taken seriously? Why they are told to GTFO by the scientific community? I wonder how many scientific papers regarding the origins of coded DNA OP has read? Does he even understand the theories that attepmt to explain it? Because he didn't even understand the basic accpeted Evolution position which has nothing to do with origins of life... Come correct, man... Excuse me, "and all the guy has is tablets" Dear sir, I think today, I posted .0001 of direct memory. And If you are only trying the means of Intervention to credit the existence of ET's let me spare you some time. I wonder how many scientific papers regarding the origins of coded DNA OP has read? How about you read mine... a few hints, if you wish, (speaking) as a “DNA Deep Throat.” First, look up the huge discontinuities between humans and the various apes for: (1) Whole mitochondrial DNA; (2) genes for the Rh Factor; (3) and human Y chromosomes, among others. Regarding #3, I refer you to K.D. Smith’s 1987 study titled “Repeated DNA sequences of the human Y chromosome.” It says “Most human Y chromosome sequences thus far examined do not have homologues [same relative position or structure] on the Y chromosomes of other primates.” Human female X chromosomes do look somewhat apelike, but not the male’s Y. This means that if humans are a crossbred species, the cross had to be between a female ape-like creature (i.e, “creature of Earth”) and a male being from elsewhere. What the evolutionists do is find certain genes which look very similar between man and ape, then they make a “tree of descent” while ignoring those huge impassable abysses of difference elsewhere. Also, by certain methods of DNA dating, one can tell that numerous genes have been recently added to the human genome. If workers in my field were to say such things openly, we would be ostracized and forced to live in a tent. Any work along these lines would be rejected without any form of appeal. So what can we do? Sincerely, DNA Deep Throat To make a hybrid creature, a female species of Earth with 48 and a species with elsewhere with 46. They just went to the second chromosome and fused two homologues together to take only one space. MY ENTIRE DNA analysis shall bore alot of people. So please let me stick with the bittersweet bigfeetsies for the next couple days. Its simpler to understand. The tablets example had nothing to do with you. The rest of your post doesn't prove anything that you have claimed to be right. "MY ENTIRE DNA analysis shall bore alot of people" Funny, because if it proves what you say it proves, it would be the biggest discovery in history... But of course, too boring... Your making claims you can't back up. You talk about science, but seem ignorant how that process works. You certainly havnt applied it here... Look... guy. Saying someone is wrong without providing a better reason than what you brought, is a narrow-minded, selfish act of self-preservation. Are you saying that I don't believe in evolution? Of course I believe in evolution you nitwit! What I, and thousands, if not millions of people do NOT believe, is how humans came to be. What we believe is that Humans in ENTIRETY are only 200-250 thousand years old, despite what were all taught in school. We and all our kids are taught in public schools,(as far as life) that a lightning bolt hits the "Darwinian Pond of Primordial Soup" "THUS" (*poof*) eminoacids and polynucleotides started to unicellularly divide. Involutionizing into the first forms of of multi-cellular bacteria with the first cell walls. (You-carry-oats, and pro-carry-oats) so following the yellow brick road of evolution, long after the Cambrian Explosion, primates started to appear. We know that there are 4 types of "prehuman" primates that existed millions of years ago. (what a coincidence that there are 4 types of "Bigfoot" today) Among other things, They say the common split between our primate ancestors was between 6-8 million years ago. So the anthropologists set out to make that discovery, and gave geneticists the torch for a while, in which when we finally took mitochondria DNA from all women from all creeds, culture and crannies of the world.. The results came back. not 8 million. not 5 million. It wasn't ONE MIL!! We genetically do not exist. 200-250 thousand years ago. Anthro's shun this "idea" Well people, they have done the test 12 times. They couldn't have been wrong that many times. Exactly what the Sumerians say, when the "Annunaki" made the "Adamu" in the image and likeness of self" 10 great cycles ago. They say a great year, or a great stellar cycle is 26k years. How did they know that.. ..among other things. 200-250K/26K = around 10. "Cycles." Now I am going to take a few hours people, to write the second part to this thread. I all hope you take a gander, and see what a fellow hybrid has to say. Till later on folks! Last Edited by Heretic_333 on 11/18/2011 08:43 PM If I told you everything I am about to say is a lie. Is it truth or a lie? I built the wrench necessary to bolt the 3 stage capping process on the BP oil spill. Tattered banners, and bloody flags... The wind of Odin sweeps it all. |
Heretic_333 (OP) User ID: 5640754 United States 11/18/2011 08:40 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: The Truth of Our Origins... Ass Loads of Evidence Pointing Towards Us Being an Engineered Species! Since i remember i was asking every night before sleep what are we and after 45 year i finally had a dream that explain it all to me and that dream was not your ordinary type of dream it feel real just like i was watching the event from another perspective. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 5495826 Here is what i saw: Aliens that look just like us modify the dna of chimpanzee to accelerate evolution. That explain it all just go grab some documentary on chimpanzee social behavior and you will see how close we are. God job bro. Live in peace my man. If I told you everything I am about to say is a lie. Is it truth or a lie? I built the wrench necessary to bolt the 3 stage capping process on the BP oil spill. Tattered banners, and bloody flags... The wind of Odin sweeps it all. |
Heretic_333 (OP) User ID: 5640754 United States 11/18/2011 09:05 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: The Truth of Our Origins... Ass Loads of Evidence Pointing Towards Us Being an Engineered Species! For Reason! and Jusssstiiicce! If I told you everything I am about to say is a lie. Is it truth or a lie? I built the wrench necessary to bolt the 3 stage capping process on the BP oil spill. Tattered banners, and bloody flags... The wind of Odin sweeps it all. |
Heretic_333 (OP) User ID: 5640754 United States 11/18/2011 09:57 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: The Truth of Our Origins... Ass Loads of Evidence Pointing Towards Us Being an Engineered Species! Since i remember i was asking every night before sleep what are we and after 45 year i finally had a dream that explain it all to me and that dream was not your ordinary type of dream it feel real just like i was watching the event from another perspective. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 5495826 Here is what i saw: Aliens that look just like us modify the dna of chimpanzee to accelerate evolution. That explain it all just go grab some documentary on chimpanzee social behavior and you will see how close we are. We are actually 99.95% similar to Chimps, They have 48 Chromosomes, we have 46. Lol So here we are, just evolving along side other creatures like deer, bear etc. so we decide to abandon all the upper montane areas and were cruising along and also decide to lose 48-2 entire DNA catalysts and become so much smarter with WAY MORE diseases. (hokay. so. we have like over 3000 genetic disorders and monkeys have about.. 5? I may be wrong on this one),we have genetic defects that dont alow you to live past 10,20, but monkeys are sometimes albino or lose their hair and what not! Figure that stuff out lol. I have a rough draft in my email with the Lloyd Pye himself, putting most of it together via email. Lloyd has tried speaking on this website before, but only nincompoops used and went to chat during that time. Lets just say we need to try to have a better one Mrs. Voice chat lady. I should have another big chunk of input, Pye style, by tomorrow. Last Edited by Heretic_333 on 11/18/2011 10:18 PM If I told you everything I am about to say is a lie. Is it truth or a lie? I built the wrench necessary to bolt the 3 stage capping process on the BP oil spill. Tattered banners, and bloody flags... The wind of Odin sweeps it all. |
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Heretic_333 (OP) User ID: 5555119 United States 01/21/2012 09:17 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: The Truth of Our Origins... Ass Loads of Evidence Pointing Towards Us Being an Engineered Species! I know I promised a part two to this, so for those who have forgotten or haven't seen part one, please take a gander, part two is completed, but I have other things to attend to, I have been "outta state" for a while on my ancient astronaut adventures of Puma Punku and Baalbek to name a few. bon apetit If I told you everything I am about to say is a lie. Is it truth or a lie? I built the wrench necessary to bolt the 3 stage capping process on the BP oil spill. Tattered banners, and bloody flags... The wind of Odin sweeps it all. |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 1948683 Canada 01/22/2012 01:53 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: The Truth of Our Origins... Ass Loads of Evidence Pointing Towards Us Being an Engineered Species! Fabulous thread OP! Keep it coming! Been studying Sumerian culture for about 4 years now... huge eye-opener! Then began comparing ancient mythologies against one another - the names change, of course, but the common threads cannot be ignored. The more I study, the more I realize I have to study more because just as you said in your opener, everything we know (literally, everything we've been 'taught' to accept as truth) is not truth. The ancient astronaut theory gels with all the ancient mythologies, and for good reason! To the poster who brought up the topic of co-creation... good job, and definitely an area that requires a much deeper look. George Kavassilas (who may be difficult to 'hear' at times, but who certainly tries to take that 'deeper look') offers his insight into cosmology and a model of the universe that just keeps making more and more sense. He's definitely worth a listen to. (in the same vein as Wilcock) The veil is lifting... world-wide, people are waking up, they're no longer satisfied with not getting answers to their questions and they're finally seeking out the answers for themselves. OP, I applaud your efforts... bringing wisdom to the masses is not an easy task but one I hope you'll continue to do! |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 10043482 United States 02/17/2012 07:31 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: The Truth of Our Origins... Ass Loads of Evidence Pointing Towards Us Being an Engineered Species! dear ones, life does does not arise by itself, and should it maybe do that, it never comes to this point. Planets are seeded and watched over, of course we are "engineered". Add to that races that colonized the planet from other worlds too and which are still doing do in fact, in hidden places. But the anunnaki did improve races in Africa long ago to make miners out of them, but they are not the creators of man on earth. Only of one area and that said most of the black in Africa are still from another planet, yellows and blacks from same planet came here over 1 million years ago, blacks to what is now australia and yellows to asia. their mixing in general produced the arab. blacks did migrate across southern asia and into africa. This is a planet of many from many places. when you say US begin an engineered species, if that was holy true, we would all be the same race. We are not. And the species is being reingineered from craft in all races right now so star seeds can incarnate and thus a lifting up of the races that way. |
Heretic_333 (OP) User ID: 2083734 United States 02/17/2012 07:35 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: The Truth of Our Origins... Ass Loads of Evidence Pointing Towards Us Being an Engineered Species! dear ones, life does does not arise by itself, and should it maybe do that, it never comes to this point. Planets are seeded and watched over, of course we are "engineered". Add to that races that colonized the planet from other worlds too and which are still doing do in fact, in hidden places. Quoting: Nobody in Particular But the anunnaki did improve races in Africa long ago to make miners out of them, but they are not the creators of man on earth. Only of one area and that said most of the black in Africa are still from another planet, yellows and blacks from same planet came here over 1 million years ago, blacks to what is now australia and yellows to asia. their mixing in general produced the arab. blacks did migrate across southern asia and into africa. This is a planet of many from many places. when you say US begin an engineered species, if that was holy true, we would all be the same race. We are not. And the species is being reingineered from craft in all races right now so star seeds can incarnate and thus a lifting up of the races that way. GO to the part two thread. And read it bro! If I told you everything I am about to say is a lie. Is it truth or a lie? I built the wrench necessary to bolt the 3 stage capping process on the BP oil spill. Tattered banners, and bloody flags... The wind of Odin sweeps it all. |