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THE STORY OF CHRISTMAS : VERY COMPELLING

 
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Neim, agree with the celebration of a typical american christmas to be of pagan origin, and something that is unclean for several reasons.

But........I believe that the christians who celebrate are forgiven and shown mercy and grace by their Lord and Savior Jesus.

His blood washes away our sins......all of them. There is only one sin that is unforgivable, and it ain't christmas.
 Quoting: Lisa*Lisa


there is no compromising the truth with your grace bailout..obedience is better than sacrifice and if you love the lord and knows what he ask of us to be clean then there is NO compromise..

For the ignorant and unlearned the lord will direct and be understanding. But to you ho know the truth and follow in the ways of the gentile he will hold accountable..

So stand for truth and direct your brethren in the right paths..Dont be a stumbling block because you are trying to win friends on the board
1 But these took this counsel among themselves, that they would leave the multitude of the heathen, and go forth into a further country, where never mankind dwelt,
42 That they might there keep their statutes, which they never kept in their own land.
43 And they entered into Euphrates by the narrow places of the river.
44 For the most High then shewed signs for them, and held still the flood, till they were passed over.
45 For through that country there was a great way to go, namely, of a year and a half: and the same region is called Arsareth.
46 Then dwelt they there until the latter time; and now when they shall begin to come,
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Children of the most high will stand and protect the fathers word of truth. no matter if it cuts into the heart of those in the wrong paths but it is out of LOVE
1 But these took this counsel among themselves, that they would leave the multitude of the heathen, and go forth into a further country, where never mankind dwelt,
42 That they might there keep their statutes, which they never kept in their own land.
43 And they entered into Euphrates by the narrow places of the river.
44 For the most High then shewed signs for them, and held still the flood, till they were passed over.
45 For through that country there was a great way to go, namely, of a year and a half: and the same region is called Arsareth.
46 Then dwelt they there until the latter time; and now when they shall begin to come,
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THE BIG STORES CANT WAIT FOR YOUR TITHES AND OFFERINGS AND THATS INCLUDING YOUR LOCAL CHURCHES TOO[/b]

But let me give you a little detail on your most treasured holiday...


DECEMBER 25TH? Hmmmm!



In the year 3000 BC., In Babylon was a woman who is known as Semiramis (Ishtar or
Easter other names in English. The Bible refers to as Ashtoreth and Astarte. Many called
her Semiramis) which became Queen of Babylon, Semiramis it had adopted a child as a
child which called him Nimrod (According to the Bible, Nimrod was a descendant of
Adam and great-grandson of Noah through the line of Ham. It was the natural son of
Cush, but legally heir of Shem can be seen in the episode of the Tower of Babel). She
was the mother of Nimrod, but later became his wife.
The Babylonians came to regard as a goddess Semiramis. All they wanted closer to
Semiramis, and enjoy the privileges of the country, had to bring the newborn child.
Semiramis to Nimrod called a cult, the worship of Nimrod was called moloh. Moloh
worship, carried the children in body and soul and threw it at the stake.
Part of the Babylonians were in agreement and not others. They chose to kill Nimrod
and succeeded. When her husband was killed, she reportedly became the ruler of the
kingdom from him. But like many of his subjects did not believe that Nimrod was the god
parigual he had claimed to be, Semiramis feared losing control over them. She knew she
had come up with something that looks like a great miracle, something that would fill the
people with wonder and really show that Nimrod was a god.
Semiramis acted quickly to bed with one of his priest and being pregnant. Led to
believe all the Babylonian god Nimrod had been reincarnated in it.
Nine months later born child and the child is put as the name Tammuz. Born 25
December in the year 3005 BC. December 25 was the shortest day of the year in the
northern hemisphere and marked the moment when the days began to lengthen again.
By associating with the sun god Nimrod, Semiramis proclaimed that day as the birthday


of Sol evergreen tree, symbol of life amid the dead of winter, began to engage in this
celebration as a symbol of the rebirth of Nimrod.




THEN CAME YOUR ROMANS WHO CHANGED THE DAY TO SOMETHING THAT APPEARS HOLY "CHRISTMAS".. BUT BEFORE THAT THEY CALLED IT BRUMALIA...

Brumalia was an ancient Roman solstice festival honoring Bacchus, generally held on 25 December and possibly related to the ancient Greek Lenaia (held in honour of Dionysus). The festival included drinking and merriment. The name is derived from the Latin word bruma, meaning "shortest day" or even "winter".

The Brumalia was also celebrated during the space of thirty days, commencing on 24 November. This was instituted by Romulus, who entertained the Senate during this time. During this feast, prophetic indications were taken of the prospects for the remaining part of the winter. According to Choricius of Gaza, Oration XIII, the festival was celebrated as late as the 6th century AD during the reign of Emperor Justinian I who otherwise persecuted paganism.



People wake up please you are being decieved and worsipping and paying homeage to other Gods. You ARE CELEBRATING THE SUN GOD
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Good post, N777.

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LOl a son named nimrod..
LIVE YOUR LIFE
Follow God, Not a book.
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Love is the secret of the universe.

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Fo all you beotches who wanna find shiznit.

Google something for me called 2 kids 1 sandbox. Very cute video!
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Neim, agree with the celebration of a typical american christmas to be of pagan origin, and something that is unclean for several reasons.

But........I believe that the christians who celebrate are forgiven and shown mercy and grace by their Lord and Savior Jesus.

His blood washes away our sins......all of them. There is only one sin that is unforgivable, and it ain't christmas.
 Quoting: Lisa*Lisa


there is no compromising the truth with your grace bailout..obedience is better than sacrifice and if you love the lord and knows what he ask of us to be clean then there is NO compromise..

For the ignorant and unlearned the lord will direct and be understanding. But to you ho know the truth and follow in the ways of the gentile he will hold accountable..

So stand for truth and direct your brethren in the right paths..Dont be a stumbling block because you are trying to win friends on the board
 Quoting: neim777


There is no christmas celebration in my home Neim, no easter, no thanksgiving.......none of it because my conscience won't allow it.

But I do believe that the grace of Jesus will cover these things for the ones who are ignorant, spiritual babes, or those who focus on showing love to others and God on those days. There is no law against love.

If you do not believe that, well that's your right, but to suggest that I tip toe around in order to win "friends" here couldn't be anymore wrong. I'm actually insulted that you even said that because I"m one of the most outspoken christians on GLP, and I never lie to people. I speak my mind openly and honestly.

Search through my threads for the last year and you'll see for yourself. The proof is in the pudding.
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Glad to see our brothers/sisters in The Lord in Ireland are really listening. You are all descendants of Ephraim (google it, look at Genesis 48)The countries of the commonwealth are Ephraim and the greatest single nation is/was Manasseh (America). It's ALL in the Bible including all the REAL Holy Days of Father God. All our secular "holidays" are of man/satan.
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Let me be a little more blunt.

When Jesus came to earth, there was one group of people He couldn't stand. The Pharisees.

He loved the sinners, He ate with them, taught them, and healed them.

But He couldn't stand the Pharisees. Why? Because they were religious hypocrites that were only concerned with a list of rules, and they declared themselves righteous based on their rules.

They had no love for God, no idea of the concept of mercy, no compassion for people.......just a list of rules which in their mind, made them justified and holy.

Nothing could have been farther from the truth, and Jesus Himself exposed them.

The number one and number two rule has to do with love. Love God and love your neighbor. Those are the most important things......more important then any list.

One thing on the list was not working on the sabbath, but Jesus Himself broke that rule when He said it was "lawful to do good on the sabbath". So, it's lawful to help others on the sabbath even if it includes "work".

He showed us that there is a greater Law, and that is the law of Love, Mercy & Compassion.......that is the law that is written on our hearts. That's what He's concerned with, make no mistake about it.

Anyone who says otherwise, and just wants to adhere to a list as a means of righteousness is just a modern day Pharisee.

Sorry...that's really what I believe.
 Quoting: Lisa*Lisa


"There are many who say yes lord but they do not do the fathers will and cause men to err"
1 But these took this counsel among themselves, that they would leave the multitude of the heathen, and go forth into a further country, where never mankind dwelt,
42 That they might there keep their statutes, which they never kept in their own land.
43 And they entered into Euphrates by the narrow places of the river.
44 For the most High then shewed signs for them, and held still the flood, till they were passed over.
45 For through that country there was a great way to go, namely, of a year and a half: and the same region is called Arsareth.
46 Then dwelt they there until the latter time; and now when they shall begin to come,
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Will you idiot honkies just embrace your damn roots! Quit worshiping the retarded Jewish deity! You are pagans! Get out there and dance naked in the forest, morans!
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Let me be a little more blunt.

When Jesus came to earth, there was one group of people He couldn't stand. The Pharisees.

He loved the sinners, He ate with them, taught them, and healed them.

But He couldn't stand the Pharisees. Why? Because they were religious hypocrites that were only concerned with a list of rules, and they declared themselves righteous based on their rules.

They had no love for God, no idea of the concept of mercy, no compassion for people.......just a list of rules which in their mind, made them justified and holy.

Nothing could have been farther from the truth, and Jesus Himself exposed them.

The number one and number two rule has to do with love. Love God and love your neighbor. Those are the most important things......more important then any list.

One thing on the list was not working on the sabbath, but Jesus Himself broke that rule when He said it was "lawful to do good on the sabbath". So, it's lawful to help others on the sabbath even if it includes "work".

He showed us that there is a greater Law, and that is the law of Love, Mercy & Compassion.......that is the law that is written on our hearts. That's what He's concerned with, make no mistake about it.

Anyone who says otherwise, and just wants to adhere to a list as a means of righteousness is just a modern day Pharisee.

Sorry...that's really what I believe.
 Quoting: Lisa*Lisa


"There are many who say yes lord but they do not do the fathers will and cause men to err"
 Quoting: neim777


Wow, I shared my heart with you, and alot of thoughts I had, and that's your reply? That I'm not doing the Father's will and I'm causing men to err?

I don't think you could be anymore hurtful then you are to me right now. Really, cold and cruel.

I"m so sorry that I replied, I will not visit your threads any longer. Peace and love to you Neim and the others reading as well. Bye.
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Neim, agree with the celebration of a typical american christmas to be of pagan origin, and something that is unclean for several reasons.

But........I believe that the christians who celebrate are forgiven and shown mercy and grace by their Lord and Savior Jesus.

His blood washes away our sins......all of them. There is only one sin that is unforgivable, and it ain't christmas.
 Quoting: Lisa*Lisa


there is no compromising the truth with your grace bailout..obedience is better than sacrifice and if you love the lord and knows what he ask of us to be clean then there is NO compromise..

For the ignorant and unlearned the lord will direct and be understanding. But to you ho know the truth and follow in the ways of the gentile he will hold accountable..

So stand for truth and direct your brethren in the right paths..Dont be a stumbling block because you are trying to win friends on the board
 Quoting: neim777


There is no christmas celebration in my home Neim, no easter, no thanksgiving.......none of it because my conscience won't allow it.

But I do believe that the grace of Jesus will cover these things for the ones who are ignorant, spiritual babes, or those who focus on showing love to others and God on those days. There is no law against love.

If you do not believe that, well that's your right, but to suggest that I tip toe around in order to win "friends" here couldn't be anymore wrong. I'm actually insulted that you even said that because I"m one of the most outspoken christians on GLP, and I never lie to people. I speak my mind openly and honestly.

Search through my threads for the last year and you'll see for yourself. The proof is in the pudding.
 Quoting: Lisa*Lisa


THIS THREAD WAS TO SHOW THE HIDDEN DEMONIC MESSAGE IN THE PAGAN HOLIDAYS AND TO WARN YOUNG AND THOSE WHO NEVER KNEW THE FACTS...THIS WAS NOT ABOUT THE GRACE AND LIBERTY TO SIN. YOU SHOULD HAVE STAYED ON TOPIC SINCE YOU CLAIM TO KNOW SO MUCH AND WARN THE OTHERS ABOUT THE DANGERS IN FOLLOWIGN THESE TRADITIONS..INSTEAD YOU ARE PACIFYING THEM AND SO WHAT ENCOURAGING THEM TO CONTINUE BY EXPRESSING YOUR JESUS IS LOVE CHRISTIAN DECEPTION.

YES THE MASTER LOVES US BUT WHERE THERE IS LOVE THERE ARE HARD TRUTHS AND DISCIPLINE..


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1 But these took this counsel among themselves, that they would leave the multitude of the heathen, and go forth into a further country, where never mankind dwelt,
42 That they might there keep their statutes, which they never kept in their own land.
43 And they entered into Euphrates by the narrow places of the river.
44 For the most High then shewed signs for them, and held still the flood, till they were passed over.
45 For through that country there was a great way to go, namely, of a year and a half: and the same region is called Arsareth.
46 Then dwelt they there until the latter time; and now when they shall begin to come,
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People that don’t know the Lord,
If you see people that is going to fall over a cliff won’t you do everything to prevent that to happen. This is real Jesus show few people the same. You got today to get right before your God. Please don’t let this happen to you or your family your children you need to come back to the Lord! Jesus loves people, and waiting for you to turn back to Him. God bless


Jesus shows 7 Columbian youths that John Lennon was sent to Hell!
The complete testimony is at the following link. Below the link is the part where the youths saw John Lennon.

[link to spiritlessons.com]

The place was divided into different sections of torment and suffering. One of the first sections that the Lord allowed us to see was the "Valley of the Cauldrons" as we called it. There were millions of cauldrons. The cauldrons were inlaid at the level of the ground; each of them was burning with lava inside. Inside each one was the soul of a person who had died and gone to hell.

As soon as those souls saw the Lord, they started to shout and screamed, "Lord, have mercy on us! Lord give me a chance to get out of this place! Lord, take me out and I will tell the world that this place is real!" But the Lord didn't even look at them. There were millions of men, women and young people in that place. We also saw homosexuals and drunkards in torment. We saw all of these people shouting in such great torment.

It shocked us to see how their bodies were destroyed. Worms were coming in and out of their empty eye sockets, mouths, and ears; and were penetrating the skin all through their bodies. This fulfills the word of God written in the book of Isaiah 66:24 "They shall go forth; they shall gaze upon the dead bodies of those who have rebelled against Me; for their worm shall not die, nor shall their fire be quenched; they shall be an abhorrence to all mankind." Also in Mark 9:44,"Where their worm never ceases and the fire is not put out." We were just horrified at what we were watching. We saw flames about 9 to 12 feet high. Within each flame, there was the soul of a person that has died and went to hell.

John Lennon The Lord allowed us to see a man who was inside of one of the cauldrons. He was upside down and the flesh on his face was falling in pieces. He remained watching the Lord intently; and then started to shout and call on the name of Jesus. He said, "Lord have mercy! Lord give me a chance! Lord take me out of this place!" But the Lord Jesus didn't want to look at him. Jesus simply turned his back on him. When Jesus did this, the man started to curse and blaspheme the Lord. This man was John Lennon, the member of the satanic music group "The Beatles." John Lennon was a man who mocked and made fun of the Lord during his life. He said that the Christianity was going to disappear and Jesus Christ would be forgotten by everyone. However, today this man is in hell and Jesus Christ is alive!! Christianity hasn't disappeared either.

As we started to walk on the edges of that place, the souls extended their hands to us and begged for mercy. They asked Jesus to take them out of there, but the Lord would never even look at them.

Then we started going through different sections. We came to the most terrible section of hell, where the worse torments happen; the center of hell. The most concentrated forms of torment; such torments that a human being could never express them. The only people here where those who knew Jesus and the Word of God. There were pastors, evangelists, missionaries, and all types of people that had once accepted Jesus and knew the truth; but lived a double life.

There were also backsliders; their suffering was a thousand times worse than any one else. They were shouting and begging the Lord for mercy, but the word of the Lord says in the book of Hebrews 10:26-27, "For if we go on sinning willfully after acquiring the knowledge of the truth, there is no longer left any sacrifice for sins, but some dreadful anticipation of judgment and of a fierce fire that is to devour those who oppose God."

Those souls were there because they preached, fasted, sung and lifted their hands in the church but in the streets and homes they were in adultery, fornication, lying, robbery. We can not lie to God. The Bible says that he to whom much has been given much also will be required. (Luke 12:48)

God then allowed us to see two women that had once been Christian sisters while on the earth, but they didn't live a righteous life before the Lord. One said to the other, "You cursed wretch! It's your fault that I am in this place! You didn't preach to me a holy gospel! And because you didn't tell me about the truth, I am now here in hell!" They would say these things to each other in the midst of the flames, and they hated each other because there is no love, mercy or forgiveness in hell.

There were thousands of souls who had known the Word of God, but their lives weren't clean before the holy presence of the Lord. "You cannot play with God or with the flames of the hell either!" the Lord said. He also told us, "My sons, all the suffering on the earth concentrated in just one place is nothing, NOTHING compared with the suffering that a person has in the best parts of hell." If it is that terrible for those who suffer least in hell, how much worse must it be for those in the center of hell, who once knew the Word of the Lord and walked away from it. Then the Lord told us that we that we could play with the fire on the earth, but never with the fire in hell.

We continued walking through different places and the Lord showed us many different people. We could see that all the people there had approximately six different type of torments. There were souls tormented by demons with all types of punishments. Another terrible punishment was their own conscience saying , "Remember when they preached to you, remember when you heard the Word of God, remember when they told you about hell and you laughed about it!" Their own consciences tormented them; just like the worms that crossed all over their bodies, like the consuming fire that was thousands and thousands times more hotter than we know. This was the reward that the devil has for all those who seek him and follow him.

The Word of the Lord says in Revelation 21:8 "As for the cowardly, however, and the unbelieving, and the fearful, the murderers, the immoral, those practicing magic arts, and idolaters, and all liars- their lot is in the lake that burns with fire and sulfur. This is the second death."

Next, the Lord showed us a man that had murdered six people. These six people now surrounded him, and were shouting at him saying, "It is your fault that we are all in this place, YOUR FAULT!" The murderer tried to cover his ears because he didn't want to listen to them, but he could not avoid listening since in hell all your senses are much more sensitive.

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What about people that are just putting trees inside to decorate for fun? Not actually trying to worship anything at all...
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As long as you do not worship the tree go ahead. A christmas tree is no worse than hanging a picture on the wall.
 Quoting: krispykritter


If you maintain that advice to the un-learned, you will live up to your handle of "krispykritter".

Just say'n . . .
 Quoting: ne14Yah 5550969


I would be very careful judging other people that you do not know. But lets see what the Bible has to say about a person that is weak such as yourself.

Romans14:1 Him that is weak in the faith receive ye, but not to doubtful disputations.

2: For one beleiveth that he may eat all things: another, who is weak, eateth herbs.

3:Let not him that eateth not judge him that eatheth: for God hath received him.

4: Who art thou that judgest another men's servant? to his own master he standeth or falleth, Yea, he shall be holden up: for God is able to make him stand.

5: One man esteemeth one day above another: another esteemeth every day alike, Let every man be fully persuaded in his own mind.

6: He that regardeth the day, regardeth it unto the Lord; and he that regardeth not the day, to the Lord he doth not regard it. He that eateth, eateth to the Lord, for he Giveth the Lord thanks, and he that eateth not, and giveth God thanks.

7:For none of us liveth to himself, and no man dieth to himself.

8: For whether we live, we live unto the Lord; and whether we die, we die unto the Lord: whether we live thervore, or die, we are the Lord's.

9: For the this end Christ both died, and rose, and revived, that he might be Lord both of the dead and living.

10: But why dost thou judge thy brother? or why dost thou set at nought thy brother? for we shall all stand before the judgemnt seat of Christ.

11: For it is written, As I live, saith the Lord, every knee shall bow to me, and every tongue shall confess to God.

12: So then every one of us shall give account of himself to God.

13: Let us not therfore judge one another anymore: but judge this rather, that no man put a sumblingblock or an occasion to fall in his brother's way.

So I will say it again as long as you do not worship the Christmas tree, it is no worse than hanging a picture on the wall.
If you are so weak in the faith, that a Christmas tree is sin for you, than for you just do not do it. I am not weak in the faith, so if I want to have a Christmas tree I can, and noone should judge me or anyone else for doing it.
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by Bill Wiese

Bill Wiese saw the searing flames of hell, felt total isolation, and experienced the putrid and rotting stench, deafening screams of agony, terrorizing demons, and finally, the strong hand of God lifting him out of the pit.
"Tell them I am coming very, very soon!"
Wiese's visit to the devil's lair lasted just twenty-three minutes, but he returned with vivid details etched in his memory. Since this life-changing ordeal, he has spent the last seven years studying the Scriptures to find answers and has listed more than 150 Bible verses referencing hell.

Everyone is curious about the afterlife, and now Wiese shares his insights to commonly asked questions such as:
* Is hell a literal burning place?
* Where is hell?
* Do you have a body in hell?
* Are there Degrees of punishment in hell?
* Are there children in hell?
* Can Demons torment people in hell?
* Can "good" people go to hell?

"Even if you don't believe my story, I hope you will believe the Scriptures and avoid hell just the same
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Something to think about:

Jeremiah 10:1-5
1 Hear the word which the LORD speaks to you, O house of Israel. 2 Thus says the LORD,
“Do not learn the way of the nations,
And do not be terrified by the signs of the heavens
Although the nations are terrified by them;
3 For the customs of the peoples are delusion;
Because it is wood cut from the forest,
The work of the hands of a craftsman with a cutting tool.
4 “They decorate it with silver and with gold;
They fasten it with nails and with hammers
So that it will not totter.

5 “Like a scarecrow in a cucumber field are they,
And they cannot speak;
They must be carried,
Because they cannot walk!
Do not fear them,
For they can do no harm,
Nor can they do any good.”
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What about people that are just putting trees inside to decorate for fun? Not actually trying to worship anything at all...
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As long as you do not worship the tree go ahead. A christmas tree is no worse than hanging a picture on the wall.
 Quoting: krispykritter


If you maintain that advice to the un-learned, you will live up to your handle of "krispykritter".

Just say'n . . .
 Quoting: ne14Yah 5550969


I would be very careful judging other people that you do not know. But lets see what the Bible has to say about a person that is weak such as yourself.

Romans14:1 Him that is weak in the faith receive ye, but not to doubtful disputations.

2: For one beleiveth that he may eat all things: another, who is weak, eateth herbs.

3:Let not him that eateth not judge him that eatheth: for God hath received him.

4: Who art thou that judgest another men's servant? to his own master he standeth or falleth, Yea, he shall be holden up: for God is able to make him stand.

5: One man esteemeth one day above another: another esteemeth every day alike, Let every man be fully persuaded in his own mind.

6: He that regardeth the day, regardeth it unto the Lord; and he that regardeth not the day, to the Lord he doth not regard it. He that eateth, eateth to the Lord, for he Giveth the Lord thanks, and he that eateth not, and giveth God thanks.

7:For none of us liveth to himself, and no man dieth to himself.

8: For whether we live, we live unto the Lord; and whether we die, we die unto the Lord: whether we live thervore, or die, we are the Lord's.

9: For the this end Christ both died, and rose, and revived, that he might be Lord both of the dead and living.

10: But why dost thou judge thy brother? or why dost thou set at nought thy brother? for we shall all stand before the judgemnt seat of Christ.

11: For it is written, As I live, saith the Lord, every knee shall bow to me, and every tongue shall confess to God.

12: So then every one of us shall give account of himself to God.

13: Let us not therfore judge one another anymore: but judge this rather, that no man put a sumblingblock or an occasion to fall in his brother's way.

So I will say it again as long as you do not worship the Christmas tree, it is no worse than hanging a picture on the wall.
If you are so weak in the faith, that a Christmas tree is sin for you, than for you just do not do it. I am not weak in the faith, so if I want to have a Christmas tree I can, and noone should judge me or anyone else for doing it.
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O look, another braindead christian using Paul as their excuse to why they do not have to obey the Creator and using him as their excuse to ignore the teachings of Jesus

You christians truly are the enemies of God! Would you at least just admit that your real god is Paul of Tarsus (The well known ENEMY of the Jesus movement) and that you HATE everything else in the Bible!
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You christians would do well to google

"Jesus Words Only"

And read the free online book!
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It's what you make it to be.

[link to marytv.tv]
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Pin this,

This is Christmas

Birht of Messiah

:snakecross::moonfeet::sunline2::chartsam::ophi:
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You christians would do well to google

"Jesus Words Only"

And read the free online book!
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This and many other of your teachin is false.

Paul supports God's law and You hate that. Paul told us correctly what was nailed to the cross - the law of Moses (ordinances and festivals).

The 10C law is forever.
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People that don’t know the Lord,
If you see people that is going to fall over a cliff won’t you do everything to prevent that to happen. This is real Jesus show few people the same. You got today to get right before your God. Please don’t let this happen to you or your family your children you need to come back to the Lord! Jesus loves people, and waiting for you to turn back to Him. God bless


Jesus shows 7 Columbian youths that John Lennon was sent to Hell!
The complete testimony is at the following link. Below the link is the part where the youths saw John Lennon.

[link to spiritlessons.com]

The place was divided into different sections of torment and suffering. One of the first sections that the Lord allowed us to see was the "Valley of the Cauldrons" as we called it. There were millions of cauldrons. The cauldrons were inlaid at the level of the ground; each of them was burning with lava inside. Inside each one was the soul of a person who had died and gone to hell.

As soon as those souls saw the Lord, they started to shout and screamed, "Lord, have mercy on us! Lord give me a chance to get out of this place! Lord, take me out and I will tell the world that this place is real!" But the Lord didn't even look at them. There were millions of men, women and young people in that place. We also saw homosexuals and drunkards in torment. We saw all of these people shouting in such great torment.

It shocked us to see how their bodies were destroyed. Worms were coming in and out of their empty eye sockets, mouths, and ears; and were penetrating the skin all through their bodies. This fulfills the word of God written in the book of Isaiah 66:24 "They shall go forth; they shall gaze upon the dead bodies of those who have rebelled against Me; for their worm shall not die, nor shall their fire be quenched; they shall be an abhorrence to all mankind." Also in Mark 9:44,"Where their worm never ceases and the fire is not put out." We were just horrified at what we were watching. We saw flames about 9 to 12 feet high. Within each flame, there was the soul of a person that has died and went to hell.

John Lennon The Lord allowed us to see a man who was inside of one of the cauldrons. He was upside down and the flesh on his face was falling in pieces. He remained watching the Lord intently; and then started to shout and call on the name of Jesus. He said, "Lord have mercy! Lord give me a chance! Lord take me out of this place!" But the Lord Jesus didn't want to look at him. Jesus simply turned his back on him. When Jesus did this, the man started to curse and blaspheme the Lord. This man was John Lennon, the member of the satanic music group "The Beatles." John Lennon was a man who mocked and made fun of the Lord during his life. He said that the Christianity was going to disappear and Jesus Christ would be forgotten by everyone. However, today this man is in hell and Jesus Christ is alive!! Christianity hasn't disappeared either.

As we started to walk on the edges of that place, the souls extended their hands to us and begged for mercy. They asked Jesus to take them out of there, but the Lord would never even look at them.

Then we started going through different sections. We came to the most terrible section of hell, where the worse torments happen; the center of hell. The most concentrated forms of torment; such torments that a human being could never express them. The only people here where those who knew Jesus and the Word of God. There were pastors, evangelists, missionaries, and all types of people that had once accepted Jesus and knew the truth; but lived a double life.

There were also backsliders; their suffering was a thousand times worse than any one else. They were shouting and begging the Lord for mercy, but the word of the Lord says in the book of Hebrews 10:26-27, "For if we go on sinning willfully after acquiring the knowledge of the truth, there is no longer left any sacrifice for sins, but some dreadful anticipation of judgment and of a fierce fire that is to devour those who oppose God."

Those souls were there because they preached, fasted, sung and lifted their hands in the church but in the streets and homes they were in adultery, fornication, lying, robbery. We can not lie to God. The Bible says that he to whom much has been given much also will be required. (Luke 12:48)

God then allowed us to see two women that had once been Christian sisters while on the earth, but they didn't live a righteous life before the Lord. One said to the other, "You cursed wretch! It's your fault that I am in this place! You didn't preach to me a holy gospel! And because you didn't tell me about the truth, I am now here in hell!" They would say these things to each other in the midst of the flames, and they hated each other because there is no love, mercy or forgiveness in hell.

There were thousands of souls who had known the Word of God, but their lives weren't clean before the holy presence of the Lord. "You cannot play with God or with the flames of the hell either!" the Lord said. He also told us, "My sons, all the suffering on the earth concentrated in just one place is nothing, NOTHING compared with the suffering that a person has in the best parts of hell." If it is that terrible for those who suffer least in hell, how much worse must it be for those in the center of hell, who once knew the Word of the Lord and walked away from it. Then the Lord told us that we that we could play with the fire on the earth, but never with the fire in hell.

We continued walking through different places and the Lord showed us many different people. We could see that all the people there had approximately six different type of torments. There were souls tormented by demons with all types of punishments. Another terrible punishment was their own conscience saying , "Remember when they preached to you, remember when you heard the Word of God, remember when they told you about hell and you laughed about it!" Their own consciences tormented them; just like the worms that crossed all over their bodies, like the consuming fire that was thousands and thousands times more hotter than we know. This was the reward that the devil has for all those who seek him and follow him.

The Word of the Lord says in Revelation 21:8 "As for the cowardly, however, and the unbelieving, and the fearful, the murderers, the immoral, those practicing magic arts, and idolaters, and all liars- their lot is in the lake that burns with fire and sulfur. This is the second death."

Next, the Lord showed us a man that had murdered six people. These six people now surrounded him, and were shouting at him saying, "It is your fault that we are all in this place, YOUR FAULT!" The murderer tried to cover his ears because he didn't want to listen to them, but he could not avoid listening since in hell all your senses are much more sensitive.

If you want to know about true repentance and how to get saved, read this [link to prophecies.org]
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The God you worship is a cruel and brutal tyrant. The ultimate evil.
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I think you mean hoe, hoe, hoe....black hoe's preferably.
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Will you idiot honkies just embrace your damn roots! Quit worshiping the retarded Jewish deity! You are pagans! Get out there and dance naked in the forest, morans!
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Around a lit up Christmas Tree!

Something else to consider:

Isaiah 60:13, "The glory of Lebanon shall come to thee, the fir tree, the pine tree, and the box together, to beautify the place of my sanctuary; and I will make the place of my feet glorious" (KJV).

So go ahead and enjoy your glorious Christmas trees everybody! Just buy a real one off a local grower and not some junk from China.
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THE BIG STORES CANT WAIT FOR YOUR TITHES AND OFFERINGS AND THATS INCLUDING YOUR LOCAL CHURCHES TOO[/b]

But let me give you a little detail on your most treasured holiday...


DECEMBER 25TH? Hmmmm!



In the year 3000 BC., In Babylon was a woman who is known as Semiramis (Ishtar or
Easter other names in English. The Bible refers to as Ashtoreth and Astarte. Many called
her Semiramis) which became Queen of Babylon, Semiramis it had adopted a child as a
child which called him Nimrod (According to the Bible, Nimrod was a descendant of
Adam and great-grandson of Noah through the line of Ham. It was the natural son of
Cush, but legally heir of Shem can be seen in the episode of the Tower of Babel). She
was the mother of Nimrod, but later became his wife.
The Babylonians came to regard as a goddess Semiramis. All they wanted closer to
Semiramis, and enjoy the privileges of the country, had to bring the newborn child.
Semiramis to Nimrod called a cult, the worship of Nimrod was called moloh. Moloh
worship, carried the children in body and soul and threw it at the stake.
Part of the Babylonians were in agreement and not others. They chose to kill Nimrod
and succeeded. When her husband was killed, she reportedly became the ruler of the
kingdom from him. But like many of his subjects did not believe that Nimrod was the god
parigual he had claimed to be, Semiramis feared losing control over them. She knew she
had come up with something that looks like a great miracle, something that would fill the
people with wonder and really show that Nimrod was a god.
Semiramis acted quickly to bed with one of his priest and being pregnant. Led to
believe all the Babylonian god Nimrod had been reincarnated in it.
Nine months later born child and the child is put as the name Tammuz. Born 25
December in the year 3005 BC. December 25 was the shortest day of the year in the
northern hemisphere and marked the moment when the days began to lengthen again.
By associating with the sun god Nimrod, Semiramis proclaimed that day as the birthday


of Sol evergreen tree, symbol of life amid the dead of winter, began to engage in this
celebration as a symbol of the rebirth of Nimrod.




THEN CAME YOUR ROMANS WHO CHANGED THE DAY TO SOMETHING THAT APPEARS HOLY "CHRISTMAS".. BUT BEFORE THAT THEY CALLED IT BRUMALIA...

Brumalia was an ancient Roman solstice festival honoring Bacchus, generally held on 25 December and possibly related to the ancient Greek Lenaia (held in honour of Dionysus). The festival included drinking and merriment. The name is derived from the Latin word bruma, meaning "shortest day" or even "winter".

The Brumalia was also celebrated during the space of thirty days, commencing on 24 November. This was instituted by Romulus, who entertained the Senate during this time. During this feast, prophetic indications were taken of the prospects for the remaining part of the winter. According to Choricius of Gaza, Oration XIII, the festival was celebrated as late as the 6th century AD during the reign of Emperor Justinian I who otherwise persecuted paganism.



People wake up please you are being decieved and worsipping and paying homeage to other Gods. You ARE CELEBRATING THE SUN GOD
 Quoting: neim777


Great post especially for the ones not awake, my second
year without Christmas and all other satanic celebrations.
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Hello friend

May i add a few words from my father


"[God The Father answered] Rather, the 144,000 have been purchased (redeemed and chosen) from the earth, as a special offering, and are spiritually undefiled, pure as virgins. Timothy, you have asked... I have answered you plainly. You are of the 144,000. I have already placed My seal upon your forehead... You remember this day. Those who doubt ask of your worthiness and that of defilement by women. Who The Lord has cleansed is worthy of His purpose... Call him not defiled or unworthy. For the defilement, that is written, is not defilement with women, but the woman, called “mother” and “harlot”."

"To serve The Lord as My witness, one must become pure in heart and spirit, and be as a virgin in spirit, separate from the world and the defilement put forth through men, preached in the churches who have forgotten Me. You have not sat among those deceived, nor have you accepted any doctrine at all, until you heard My voice. You were the clay molded by the world, yet unmolded in spirit. This was not of your doing, for I had called you from your birth to stay as a virgin in spirit, without faith in doctrines of the world. Your body defiled by sin, this you were guilty, as all. I have taken your sins from you, and remember your iniquities no more... What defilement remains? What The Lord has cleansed, in the blood of The Lamb, is a new creation... Virgin."



I am with you..I got this same message, and I am also chosen. I am sealed on my forehead, and know what this means.
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I Love you
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What about people that are just putting trees inside to decorate for fun? Not actually trying to worship anything at all...
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As long as you do not worship the tree go ahead. A christmas tree is no worse than hanging a picture on the wall.
 Quoting: krispykritter



Thank you. Those who claim that we worship trees are taking things too far. Celebrate it or don't, but please don't attack those that do. Anti-Christmas people always seem to sound like hateful, blathering idiots, foaming at the mouth over the idea of someone putting an Angel at the top of a tree in their living room.
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Very good and all true, but then easter is also pagan (sun god worship), also new years, valentines day in fact all the "whore celebrations" of men. God's true holy days are in the old testament and yes we WILL observe soon.
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Why in God's name will we return to the old testament?? This does not make any sense. Jesus fulfilled the mosaic laws. The new testament trumps....
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All they did was move an "N"

sataN

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not so clever, but amazing how many don't even see it.
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Hello friend

May i add a few words from my father


"[God The Father answered] Rather, the 144,000 have been purchased (redeemed and chosen) from the earth, as a special offering, and are spiritually undefiled, pure as virgins. Timothy, you have asked... I have answered you plainly. You are of the 144,000. I have already placed My seal upon your forehead... You remember this day. Those who doubt ask of your worthiness and that of defilement by women. Who The Lord has cleansed is worthy of His purpose... Call him not defiled or unworthy. For the defilement, that is written, is not defilement with women, but the woman, called “mother” and “harlot”."

"To serve The Lord as My witness, one must become pure in heart and spirit, and be as a virgin in spirit, separate from the world and the defilement put forth through men, preached in the churches who have forgotten Me. You have not sat among those deceived, nor have you accepted any doctrine at all, until you heard My voice. You were the clay molded by the world, yet unmolded in spirit. This was not of your doing, for I had called you from your birth to stay as a virgin in spirit, without faith in doctrines of the world. Your body defiled by sin, this you were guilty, as all. I have taken your sins from you, and remember your iniquities no more... What defilement remains? What The Lord has cleansed, in the blood of The Lamb, is a new creation... Virgin."



I am with you..I got this same message, and I am also chosen. I am sealed on my forehead, and know what this means.
 Quoting: The Lords Humble Servant 4528267

 Quoting: Faithful and Truth 4650379


I Love you
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Aaaahhhh....JW's! This explains the spew.
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All they did was move an "N"

sataN

saNta



not so clever, but amazing how many don't even see it.
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Who has the children's hearts by giving them their material desires?


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