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is Joel Osteen legit or a fraud?

 
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is Joel Osteen legit or a fraud?
So my family is cruising through the channels and they happen upon yet another Joel Osteen presentation. They start listening to his words intently as usual, and though motivational....yet redundant, seeing how he kept giving two dozen examples for the same message for over half an hour....is he really a man of God or a fraud?
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the only thing that matters is Joel is RICH, RICH, and more Rich!
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11/21/2011 01:11 AM
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He's a prosperity man like Copeland if that means anything to you. I know what it means to me.
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11/21/2011 01:12 AM
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fraud
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11/21/2011 01:15 AM
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He's a genius, and a fantastic hypnotist. Who knows if he's the real thing or not, lot of people think so.
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11/21/2011 01:16 AM
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Re: is Joel Osteen legit or a fraud?
the only thing that matters is Joel is RICH, RICH, and more Rich!
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Well, that can only mean that Blinky is a blessed, blessed servant o' the Lard!
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11/21/2011 01:17 AM
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He's a prosperity man like Copeland if that means anything to you. I know what it means to me.
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If you dont like prosperity then quit your job.
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11/21/2011 01:20 AM
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I don't like false doctrine.

BTW, you hit the nail on the head. Prosperity comes from hard work; not sending Joel Osteen or Kenneth Copeland or Benny Hinn $40 a month.
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11/21/2011 01:23 AM
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So my family is cruising through the channels and they happen upon yet another Joel Osteen presentation. They start listening to his words intently as usual, and though motivational....yet redundant, seeing how he kept giving two dozen examples for the same message for over half an hour....is he really a man of God or a fraud?
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He represents Christianity. Christianity is a fraud. So naturally...
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11/21/2011 01:29 AM
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the only thing that matters is Joel is RICH, RICH, and more Rich!
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Well, that can only mean that Blinky is a blessed, blessed servant o' the Lard!
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"Then these righteous ones will reply, 'Lord, when did we ever see you hungry and feed you? Or thirsty and give you something to drink?
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11/21/2011 01:31 AM
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He's a genius, and a fantastic hypnotist. Who knows if he's the real thing or not, lot of people think so.
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He's a fucking Luci reptilian that shape shifts.google it.Pure satan.bump
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Re: is Joel Osteen legit or a fraud?
So my family is cruising through the channels and they happen upon yet another Joel Osteen presentation. They start listening to his words intently as usual, and though motivational....yet redundant, seeing how he kept giving two dozen examples for the same message for over half an hour....is he really a man of God or a fraud?
 Quoting: TXL


He represents Christianity. Christianity is a fraud. So naturally...
pigchef
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No he doesn't so fuck off.
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11/21/2011 01:34 AM
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the only thing that matters is Joel is RICH, RICH, and more Rich!
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Yup
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11/21/2011 02:30 AM
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where did you say you saw him?

theres your answer.
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11/21/2011 02:39 AM
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I believe he's a fraud, nothing but a scheming showman raking in the big bucks.
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11/21/2011 02:40 AM
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So my family is cruising through the channels and they happen upon yet another Joel Osteen presentation. They start listening to his words intently as usual, and though motivational....yet redundant, seeing how he kept giving two dozen examples for the same message for over half an hour....is he really a man of God or a fraud?
 Quoting: TXL


He represents Christianity. Christianity is a fraud. So naturally...
pigchef
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He is apostate Christianity. Christians worship the loving and true God. Not some wrathful, bloodthirsty demon you and the rest of Satans pawns portray it.
O earth,earth,earth hear the word of the Lord. Proverbs 1:32
Rejoice not when thy enemy falleth, and let not thine heart be glad when he stumbleth:
Lest the Lord see it, and it displease Him, and He turn away His wrath from him. Proverbs 24:17,18

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11/21/2011 02:42 AM
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Joel Osteen is a ligitimate fraud.
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11/21/2011 02:42 AM
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Yes, Joel is a man of god. Now, who is "god" is the REAL question.
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11/21/2011 02:44 AM
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Re: is Joel Osteen legit or a fraud?
hes a jewish so yes
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Fraud.

if you did deep, you might find connections to ........
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11/21/2011 02:47 AM
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At the first five minutes of this video you can see his wife giving the sign of satan two times.
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11/21/2011 02:48 AM
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oops, forgot that you can't imbed youtube videos from Joseph Prince's online channel, but you can look at the video GRACE REVOLUTION.
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11/21/2011 02:49 AM
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Re: is Joel Osteen legit or a fraud?
he is not biblical in any way shape or form

since he says he is speaking on behalf of God, that makes him a fraud
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11/21/2011 02:54 AM
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hes a jewish so yes
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Could be. Let's just say if you put a yarmulke on his head he wouldn't look out of place at the wailing wall.
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11/21/2011 03:17 AM
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Re: is Joel Osteen legit or a fraud?
Well he for one thing is what I call a hopeless optimist... and a bullshitter, which to me is more annoying and draining than a hopeless pessimist.

He is uplifting though for those people that need that sorta thing I guess.

One thing is for sure... he's in it for the money, and I have to give him props at least if people are gonna give you money at least earn it by selling grade A bullshit.

I'm all about being a realist... but that's just me.

He is right you can't have no in your heart.... but, you can't expect to pray to a book and have every wild dream you have come true as well it just doesn't work like that.


His monologue always bugged me because my mom watches him,

It's something along the lines of

"This is my bible, I am what it says I am, I have what it says I have, I do what it says I can do...."

Really now... are you saying that I can walk on water then.... wow that's a neat trick.

But all in all I think he has a good message, but it is definitely the "diet coke of religion"

He is more a "inspirational speaker" than a pastor.

I'm kinda biased against him though because he looks just like my crazy ass stepdads twin... uggh gives me the creeps.
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11/21/2011 03:23 AM
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Re: is Joel Osteen legit or a fraud?
Just talked to God, She said he's bullshit, and God would know. she's a black woman.
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Re: is Joel Osteen legit or a fraud?
So my family is cruising through the channels and they happen upon yet another Joel Osteen presentation. They start listening to his words intently as usual, and though motivational....yet redundant, seeing how he kept giving two dozen examples for the same message for over half an hour....is he really a man of God or a fraud?
 Quoting: TXL


Joel is the man. He is the real deal unfortunately some of you people here can't handle a gush of positive encouragement every now and then. For some reason it seems to piss a lot of people off here. I think that says a lot.
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So my family is cruising through the channels and they happen upon yet another Joel Osteen presentation. They start listening to his words intently as usual, and though motivational....yet redundant, seeing how he kept giving two dozen examples for the same message for over half an hour....is he really a man of God or a fraud?
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his not a fraud in the sense of scamming people but he is truly a fraud in preaching the gospel. He's a smooth talking tickle your ears type preacher..they are the new age preachers that has taken over the world. They are the very kind of churches our government loves to support.

There are very very few true men of god that preach the gospel. I can only think of a few handful.. Paul Washer, Tim Conway, Carter Conlon and of course the late David Wilkerson.

Those preachers i just mentioned get ridiculed and talked down on by many for the simple fact that they speak truth and people dont like having to sacrifice their lifestyle. You see..preachers like Osteen,Joyce Myers, Benny Hinn, Creflo Dollar,etc,etc teach a kind of gospel that dont require you to give up the things of this world, dont require you to put all your trust in god,etc..self-reliance is what the preach.

You wont dare here them get deep into sin, hell and the traps and snares that are everywhere you look in today's world..nah..they dont dare touch that because they will lose their 'customers' ....that kind of thing is unpopular and dont sell to well.

The gospel taught today is a watered down doctrine that has been twisted and turned upside to fit today's lifestyle...If you listen to Paul Washer, Tim Conway, Carter Conlon and of course the late David Wilkerson...thats the kind of gospel that is obedient to God..you see obedience is something most Christians can handle...they are too caught up in the worldy things of this world..

A lot of people hate Paul Washer, Tim Conway, Carter Conlon and of course the late David Wilkerson because they speak truth. They despise these men of god because of it...isnt it funny? Its just like how it was when jesus was preaching when he was on this earth 2000 years ago...thats how these preachers get treated i mentioned above..what does that tell you? It tells you who you are if your one of those that despise the true gospel that these few men teach.
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11/21/2011 09:14 AM
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Re: is Joel Osteen legit or a fraud?
Joel Osteen is a legitimate fraud.

Just joking...or half-joking...he's a feel-good motivational speaker who barely mentions Jesus or God in his "messages". And, by passing himself off as a "Man of God", he rakes in huge amounts of cash from gullible people who think they can buy their way to peace, happiness, and heaven.

I tithe to my church, but I know exactly where the money goes...they publish the budget...and it isn't into a high-living pastor's pockets.
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11/21/2011 09:20 AM
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Every time I see him, one word comes to mind...Amway
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FROM WHAT I HAVE SEEN OF HIS INFO MERCIALS IN NEWS SLOT ETC

HE DOESNT TAKE THE OPERTUNITY TO PREACH THE GOSPEL
BUT PREACHES HOW HIS WINNING PILOSOPHIES HAVE MADE HIM A SUCCESS

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