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Anonymous Coward User ID: 4113846 United States 11/21/2011 01:23 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | So my family is cruising through the channels and they happen upon yet another Joel Osteen presentation. They start listening to his words intently as usual, and though motivational....yet redundant, seeing how he kept giving two dozen examples for the same message for over half an hour....is he really a man of God or a fraud? Quoting: TXL He represents Christianity. Christianity is a fraud. So naturally... |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 87848 United States 11/21/2011 01:32 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | So my family is cruising through the channels and they happen upon yet another Joel Osteen presentation. They start listening to his words intently as usual, and though motivational....yet redundant, seeing how he kept giving two dozen examples for the same message for over half an hour....is he really a man of God or a fraud? Quoting: TXL He represents Christianity. Christianity is a fraud. So naturally... No he doesn't so fuck off. |
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Mad Matt User ID: 5002507 United States 11/21/2011 02:40 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | So my family is cruising through the channels and they happen upon yet another Joel Osteen presentation. They start listening to his words intently as usual, and though motivational....yet redundant, seeing how he kept giving two dozen examples for the same message for over half an hour....is he really a man of God or a fraud? Quoting: TXL He represents Christianity. Christianity is a fraud. So naturally... He is apostate Christianity. Christians worship the loving and true God. Not some wrathful, bloodthirsty demon you and the rest of Satans pawns portray it. O earth,earth,earth hear the word of the Lord. Proverbs 1:32 Rejoice not when thy enemy falleth, and let not thine heart be glad when he stumbleth: Lest the Lord see it, and it displease Him, and He turn away His wrath from him. Proverbs 24:17,18 I have CDO, similar to OCD, but the letters are in their proper order, as they should be. |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 776657 United States 11/21/2011 03:17 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Well he for one thing is what I call a hopeless optimist... and a bullshitter, which to me is more annoying and draining than a hopeless pessimist. He is uplifting though for those people that need that sorta thing I guess. One thing is for sure... he's in it for the money, and I have to give him props at least if people are gonna give you money at least earn it by selling grade A bullshit. I'm all about being a realist... but that's just me. He is right you can't have no in your heart.... but, you can't expect to pray to a book and have every wild dream you have come true as well it just doesn't work like that. His monologue always bugged me because my mom watches him, It's something along the lines of "This is my bible, I am what it says I am, I have what it says I have, I do what it says I can do...." Really now... are you saying that I can walk on water then.... wow that's a neat trick. But all in all I think he has a good message, but it is definitely the "diet coke of religion" He is more a "inspirational speaker" than a pastor. I'm kinda biased against him though because he looks just like my crazy ass stepdads twin... uggh gives me the creeps. |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 4741093 United States 11/21/2011 03:29 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | So my family is cruising through the channels and they happen upon yet another Joel Osteen presentation. They start listening to his words intently as usual, and though motivational....yet redundant, seeing how he kept giving two dozen examples for the same message for over half an hour....is he really a man of God or a fraud? Quoting: TXL Joel is the man. He is the real deal unfortunately some of you people here can't handle a gush of positive encouragement every now and then. For some reason it seems to piss a lot of people off here. I think that says a lot. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 5730003 United States 11/21/2011 03:50 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | So my family is cruising through the channels and they happen upon yet another Joel Osteen presentation. They start listening to his words intently as usual, and though motivational....yet redundant, seeing how he kept giving two dozen examples for the same message for over half an hour....is he really a man of God or a fraud? Quoting: TXL his not a fraud in the sense of scamming people but he is truly a fraud in preaching the gospel. He's a smooth talking tickle your ears type preacher..they are the new age preachers that has taken over the world. They are the very kind of churches our government loves to support. There are very very few true men of god that preach the gospel. I can only think of a few handful.. Paul Washer, Tim Conway, Carter Conlon and of course the late David Wilkerson. Those preachers i just mentioned get ridiculed and talked down on by many for the simple fact that they speak truth and people dont like having to sacrifice their lifestyle. You see..preachers like Osteen,Joyce Myers, Benny Hinn, Creflo Dollar,etc,etc teach a kind of gospel that dont require you to give up the things of this world, dont require you to put all your trust in god,etc..self-reliance is what the preach. You wont dare here them get deep into sin, hell and the traps and snares that are everywhere you look in today's world..nah..they dont dare touch that because they will lose their 'customers' ....that kind of thing is unpopular and dont sell to well. The gospel taught today is a watered down doctrine that has been twisted and turned upside to fit today's lifestyle...If you listen to Paul Washer, Tim Conway, Carter Conlon and of course the late David Wilkerson...thats the kind of gospel that is obedient to God..you see obedience is something most Christians can handle...they are too caught up in the worldy things of this world.. A lot of people hate Paul Washer, Tim Conway, Carter Conlon and of course the late David Wilkerson because they speak truth. They despise these men of god because of it...isnt it funny? Its just like how it was when jesus was preaching when he was on this earth 2000 years ago...thats how these preachers get treated i mentioned above..what does that tell you? It tells you who you are if your one of those that despise the true gospel that these few men teach. |
weegie User ID: 5595586 Switzerland 11/21/2011 09:14 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Joel Osteen is a legitimate fraud. Just joking...or half-joking...he's a feel-good motivational speaker who barely mentions Jesus or God in his "messages". And, by passing himself off as a "Man of God", he rakes in huge amounts of cash from gullible people who think they can buy their way to peace, happiness, and heaven. I tithe to my church, but I know exactly where the money goes...they publish the budget...and it isn't into a high-living pastor's pockets. |
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