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We caught the plane crash on our webcam

 
Borat Sagdiyev

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hmm. I watched it a few times. Not sure WHAT to make of that..


interesting
 Quoting: Taz
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Controlled flight into terrain -- and FULL of gas, too
(empty aircraft don't go ka-boom, only crunch).

He was in level flight, not in a descent for landing.

No GPWS on board and hit a hilltop.

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 Quoting: Borat Sagdiyev
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Above was my conclusion as well, except the plane
does not have to be full of fuel to go boom.

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 Quoting: Desert Fox
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Not FULL per se, but not empty.

When an aircraft crashes when it's run out of gas, the
only "good" thing is that there's little (if any) fireball.

This plane, however, made quite the fireball.

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Your video made Fox News! 5a

[link to www.foxnews.com]
 Quoting: Shodan99VR4


LOL

"A myFoxPhoenix viewer uploaded a video of the crash to YouTube from a greyscale webcam."

they won't say where they got that one....
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Re: We caught the plane crash on our webcam
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hmm. I watched it a few times. Not sure WHAT to make of that..


interesting
 Quoting: Taz
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Controlled flight into terrain -- and FULL of gas, too
(empty aircraft don't go ka-boom, only crunch).

He was in level flight, not in a descent for landing.

No GPWS on board and hit a hilltop.

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 Quoting: Borat Sagdiyev
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Above was my conclusion as well, except the plane
does not have to be full of fuel to go boom.

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 Quoting: Desert Fox
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Not FULL per se, but not empty.

When an aircraft crashes when it's run out of gas, the
only "good" thing is that there's little (if any) fireball.

This plane, however, made quite the fireball.

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 Quoting: Borat Sagdiyev
Agreement.
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Re: We caught the plane crash on our webcam
Get this on the news!!!!!!

Breaking GLP first hand footage.
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now that would bring tons of attention to glp but also the eyes of those who are not pleased with people like us

Where did this take place?
"Some people wait for 2012, to watch the earth shift, but in New Mexico they out there building earthships. We got the language wrong, I got a new twist. The lifting of the veil; thats the true apocolypse."
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hmm. I watched it a few times. Not sure WHAT to make of that..


interesting
 Quoting: Taz
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Controlled flight into terrain -- and FULL of gas, too
(empty aircraft don't go ka-boom, only crunch).

He was in level flight, not in a descent for landing.

No GPWS on board and hit a hilltop.

.
 Quoting: Borat Sagdiyev


That's ATC nomenclature... interesting
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Re: We caught the plane crash on our webcam
pay attention to lower plane on the left... that's the one that crashed
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Heads up friend.
The FAA may want to see this. It may be advantageous to make contact first. I do not know if this is the best advice, but its is honest.
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Re: We caught the plane crash on our webcam
Holy shit
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The FAA and the NTSB could both use this video.

It looked like what they call "controlled flight into terrain" from a distance.

The pilot was IFR, no question, since it was dark. Having flown in the desert in the dark in a small plane (C180) I can tell you that it's very disorienting from above. (I was helping navigate, not the actual pilot)
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whoopsie!!!!!!!!!!
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Either shot down by the flame up or engine blew up. You can see a flame up a couple times before it hits.
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Re: We caught the plane crash on our webcam
A very strange, very sad crash in a mountain range with a rich history of strange events. Locals will know what I'm talking about. Freaky shit happens around the Superstitions, and it's not just because of all the tweakers in Apache Junction.
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RIP those that lost their lives, and on the eve of thanksgiving...tragic.

The explosion did look weird though,was the plane hit? I notice just before the explosion the lights went out of the plane...a directed EMP pulse tack form a ufo or ground based weapon could have caused that? (thank goodness for FAA crash investigators who can do a far better job than me and my speculations).

The plane does not crash directly into the mountain head on, as the lights went out, and then the ball of light, followed by the aircraft on the ground in a fireball, lower than the original position when the lights went out.

Perhaps the aircraft was veering left hence the lack of lights but weird, regardless.

Awaiting to hear the official version, I am sorry for their loved ones who were waiting for them.
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What plane crash are we talking about here, when, where?
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this^
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I never heard of a small plane exploding when crashing. Gasoline don't make that kind of fireball I don't think.

Darned odd.
DSL is better than cable! :)
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RIP those that lost their lives, and on the eve of thanksgiving...tragic.

The explosion did look weird though,was the plane hit? I notice just before the explosion the lights went out of the plane...a directed EMP pulse tack form a ufo or ground based weapon could have caused that? (thank goodness for FAA crash investigators who can do a far better job than me and my speculations).

The plane does not crash directly into the mountain head on, as the lights went out, and then the ball of light, followed by the aircraft on the ground in a fireball, lower than the original position when the lights went out.

Perhaps the aircraft was veering left hence the lack of lights but weird, regardless.

Awaiting to hear the official version, I am sorry for their loved ones who were waiting for them.
 Quoting: CalmB4TheSadness 5904233


Official version will be a coverup.
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Re: We caught the plane crash on our webcam
flying to low.
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[link to kpho.images.worldnow.com]
decent photo of the mountain side and fire
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[link to cdn-www.airliners.net]
that's the type of aircraft
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on drudge report first
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It looks like it just suddenly dropped from the sky.
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Didn't drop, just hit top of mountain.
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+1 Pretty obvious if you look at where it disappeared and then check out where the hill is in the flash.
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[link to i.azcentral.com]
that's a better pic of the side of the mountain
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Pilot was truly an idiot.
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Deepest condolences to family and friends of those affected.

The pilot was flying IFR, (instrument flying rules)night flying, that mountain/terrain has most probably got an NDB (Navigational Direction Beacon) on it.

These beacons allow a pilot to track on its radio signal which gives directional (left/right) information but NOT altitude.

Unfortunately the pilot must have not have had sufficient height to clear the terain, for whatever reason and there can be a multitude of them.

Machines (altimeters)do/can develop faults!

That is why there are specialist investigative organizations who can search for the causes of these unfortunate incidents.

To the person who called the pilot an idiot, you need a bloody good foot up your arse, for that totally missinformed, insensitive and innapropriate comment.

Hope youve got the balls to apolagise right here and now for that.

Otherwise Ill make the call...you are a PIG.
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Deepest condolences to family and friends of those affected.

The pilot was flying IFR, (instrument flying rules)night flying, that mountain/terrain has most probably got an NDB (Navigational Direction Beacon) on it.

These beacons allow a pilot to track on its radio signal which gives directional (left/right) information but NOT altitude.

Unfortunately the pilot must have not have had sufficient height to clear the terain, for whatever reason and there can be a multitude of them.

Machines (altimeters)do/can develop faults!

That is why there are specialist investigative organizations who can search for the causes of these unfortunate incidents.

To the person who called the pilot an idiot, you need a bloody good foot up your arse, for that totally missinformed, insensitive and innapropriate comment.

Hope youve got the balls to apolagise right here and now for that.

Otherwise Ill make the call...you are a PIG.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 944501


yeah that is pretty sad.
they probably had turkey in the refreg ready for cooking tommorow. family holiday ruined
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Re: We caught the plane crash on our webcam
do australians eat turkey on thanksgiving?
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do australians eat turkey on thanksgiving?
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i take that back....

any australians ever tried turkey? or do you guys like ostrich better???
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A very strange, very sad crash in a mountain range with a rich history of strange events. Locals will know what I'm talking about. Freaky shit happens around the Superstitions, and it's not just because of all the tweakers in Apache Junction.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1295002


Whats wrong with tweakers?
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do australians eat turkey on thanksgiving?
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We dont do Thanksgiving, that's a uniquely American celebration, I think.

To be honest with you I dont actually even know what it represents, sorry I dont mean to be dissrespectful, I am meerly ignorant of the information.

Perhaps someone might like to offer the information.
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do australians eat turkey on thanksgiving?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1325985


We dont do Thanksgiving, that's a uniquely American celebration, I think.

To be honest with you I dont actually even know what it represents, sorry I dont mean to be dissrespectful, I am meerly ignorant of the information.

Perhaps someone might like to offer the information.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 944501


The point isn't the Turkey in the fridge, or why it's a Turkey...

Thanksgiving is second to Christmas (X-Mas, for those opposed to reference of Christ) as a family gathering holiday.

It's a really bad time to lose family members to a violent accident...
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Re: We caught the plane crash on our webcam
On some days, the entire Superstition range appears to be floating - and the overall topography shifts and morphs in appearance all the time.

Instrument failure.

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