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We caught the plane crash on our webcam

 
Anonymous Coward
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Why is that person crashing into the mountaing?

Why?
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11/24/2011 02:44 AM
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Re: We caught the plane crash on our webcam
DAYUM!!!
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11/24/2011 02:50 AM
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Shouldn't this be turned over to the NTSB/FAA?


It isn't much, but it may help the investigation.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1360216


I am sure the FAA will chalk it up to pilot error, per usual.
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11/24/2011 02:53 AM
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Re: We caught the plane crash on our webcam
On some days, the entire Superstition range appears to be floating - and the overall topography shifts and morphs in appearance all the time.

Instrument failure.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 5864328


Perhaps turbulence had a bit of effect on it too.
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11/24/2011 02:55 AM
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These dudes know their shit [link to www.airliners.net]

Last Edited by Too Dark Park on 11/24/2011 02:56 AM
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11/24/2011 03:00 AM
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Re: We caught the plane crash on our webcam
pay attention to lower plane on the left... that's the one that crashed
 Quoting: marstrax


You're a dumbass

That's 2 UFOs traveling to the right, one above the other, one does something weird and emits this strong spherical energy/light and changes shapes into another object, which then, sits there in the sky and multiplies into 2 objects while the other one keeps on flying to the right.

You cannot possibly be dumb enough to think a plane crash would light up your entire camera miles away from where it is with a blinding white light that no fire would ever cause, then somehow suspend itself in the air and never land.

Dumb. Dumb. Dumb.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 4406892


Dude, take off the tinfoil hat and throw away the tinfoil your smoking that shit out of too. WTF You must have that CSI high tech shit to see that much detail.Sooo stfu
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11/24/2011 03:02 AM
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Re: We caught the plane crash on our webcam
pay attention to lower plane on the left... that's the one that crashed
 Quoting: marstrax


You're a dumbass

That's 2 UFOs traveling to the right, one above the other, one does something weird and emits this strong spherical energy/light and changes shapes into another object, which then, sits there in the sky and multiplies into 2 objects while the other one keeps on flying to the right.

You cannot possibly be dumb enough to think a plane crash would light up your entire camera miles away from where it is with a blinding white light that no fire would ever cause, then somehow suspend itself in the air and never land.

Dumb. Dumb. Dumb.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 4406892


WTF r u talking about. Bro take off the fucking tinfoil hat and throw away the tinfoil your smoking that shit out of. And please stfu
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11/24/2011 03:08 AM
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Re: We caught the plane crash on our webcam
Was this taken from Apache Junction? Which way is the cam pointing?
I only believe half of what I read and even half of that is bullshit.
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11/24/2011 03:09 AM
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Re: We caught the plane crash on our webcam
woah dude, ABC news took you vid!

[link to abcnews.go.com]
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11/24/2011 03:11 AM
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woah dude, ABC news took you vid!

[link to abcnews.go.com]
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 5942524


nope, my mistake its only a barrage of comercials.
I thought they stole your vid.
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11/24/2011 03:19 AM
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Re: We caught the plane crash on our webcam
woah dude, ABC news took you vid!

[link to abcnews.go.com]
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 5942524


nope, my mistake its only a barrage of comercials.
I thought they stole your vid.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 5942524


Nope, they DID take your vid!
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11/24/2011 03:21 AM
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What an awful tragedy, I just hope it was fast and unexpected and the family that are left find the strength to cope with the future.

Mishka xx
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11/24/2011 03:22 AM
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Re: We caught the plane crash on our webcam
Why is that person crashing into the mountaing?

Why?
 Quoting: gurunade



CFIT. It happens. [link to en.wikipedia.org]
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11/24/2011 03:26 AM
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Re: We caught the plane crash on our webcam
Why is that person crashing into the mountaing?

Why?
 Quoting: gurunade



CFIT. It happens. [link to en.wikipedia.org]
 Quoting: Too Dark Park


But.. but...... cry
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11/24/2011 07:26 AM
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Re: We caught the plane crash on our webcam
Deepest condolences to family and friends of those affected.

The pilot was flying IFR, (instrument flying rules)night flying, that mountain/terrain has most probably got an NDB (Navigational Direction Beacon) on it.

These beacons allow a pilot to track on its radio signal which gives directional (left/right) information but NOT altitude.

Unfortunately the pilot must have not have had sufficient height to clear the terain, for whatever reason and there can be a multitude of them.

Machines (altimeters)do/can develop faults!

That is why there are specialist investigative organizations who can search for the causes of these unfortunate incidents.

To the person who called the pilot an idiot, you need a bloody good foot up your arse, for that totally missinformed, insensitive and innapropriate comment.

Hope youve got the balls to apolagise right here and now for that.

Otherwise Ill make the call...you are a PIG.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 944501


and this..

Why is that person crashing into the mountaing?

Why?


this...

I am sure the FAA will chalk it up to pilot error, per usual.


and finally this...

Perhaps turbulence had a bit of effect on it too.


can you people NOT read, or comprehend simple practical facts, or do you have a need to demonstrate your stupidity so publically..


just remember this..people died in that accident and one thing is absolutely certain...

no one..no one will know the cause of that accident until it is very carefully investigated.

In the mean time I suggest some silence out of respect for those who are immediately affected with tragic losses.
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11/24/2011 09:40 AM
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Re: We caught the plane crash on our webcam
It looks like it just suddenly dropped from the sky.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 4781813


Didn't drop, just hit top of mountain.
 Quoting: Desert Fox


Yea..I din't see that mountain either, They should move that.
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11/24/2011 10:09 AM
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Re: We caught the plane crash on our webcam
3 men with 3 young children aboard... Hmmmm.
No trees were killed in the sending of this message, however a large number of electrons were terribly inconvenienced.
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11/24/2011 10:30 AM
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Re: We caught the plane crash on our webcam
Deepest condolences to family and friends of those affected.

The pilot was flying IFR, (instrument flying rules)night flying, that mountain/terrain has most probably got an NDB (Navigational Direction Beacon) on it.

These beacons allow a pilot to track on its radio signal which gives directional (left/right) information but NOT altitude.

Unfortunately the pilot must have not have had sufficient height to clear the terain, for whatever reason and there can be a multitude of them.

Machines (altimeters)do/can develop faults!

That is why there are specialist investigative organizations who can search for the causes of these unfortunate incidents.

To the person who called the pilot an idiot, you need a bloody good foot up your arse, for that totally missinformed, insensitive and innapropriate comment.

Hope youve got the balls to apolagise right here and now for that.

Otherwise Ill make the call...you are a PIG.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 944501


and this..

Why is that person crashing into the mountaing?

Why?


this...

I am sure the FAA will chalk it up to pilot error, per usual.


and finally this...

Perhaps turbulence had a bit of effect on it too.


can you people NOT read, or comprehend simple practical facts, or do you have a need to demonstrate your stupidity so publically..


just remember this..people died in that accident and one thing is absolutely certain...

no one..no one will know the cause of that accident until it is very carefully investigated.

In the mean time I suggest some silence out of respect for those who are immediately affected with tragic losses.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 944501


Any of your whiny response could be attributed to pilot error by the FAA. Even so I was being cynical. I shouldn't have to explain that to adults.

As you so adeptly said

"no one will know the cause of that accident until it is very carefully investigated."
So ummm why are you busting my balls.

Ego problems much?


I am definitely sympathetic to the families involved in their time of loss
Anonymous Coward
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11/24/2011 10:48 AM
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Re: We caught the plane crash on our webcam
Why two planes flying at the same speed?

Trying to turn this thread into a bunch of shit-throwing comments much? Wouldn't be trying to derail focussing on the details of this event, would we?
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11/24/2011 10:58 AM
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Why two planes flying at the same speed?

Trying to turn this thread into a bunch of shit-throwing comments much? Wouldn't be trying to derail focussing on the details of this event, would we?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 5343144


They could have been at different distances getting into the final approach pattern as a large airport can bring planes in for landing as quickly as 7 or 8 minutes apart on a usual day.
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11/24/2011 10:59 AM
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As for shit throwing. I did not start it only respond.
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11/24/2011 11:07 AM
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Why two planes flying at the same speed?

Trying to turn this thread into a bunch of shit-throwing comments much? Wouldn't be trying to derail focussing on the details of this event, would we?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 5343144


They could have been at different distances getting into the final approach pattern as a large airport can bring planes in for landing as quickly as 7 or 8 minutes apart on a usual day.
 Quoting: Cybervato


There's that and then there's the weirdness of two planes flying at the same speed and then one crashes.
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11/24/2011 11:20 AM
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Re: We caught the plane crash on our webcam
Is it your summation that one plane may have been the cause of the other crashing?
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11/24/2011 11:32 AM
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Is it your summation that one plane may have been the cause of the other crashing?
 Quoting: Cybervato


If that is the case, there is this perhaps unexpected documentation of proximity. But hell if I know. I am just describing a detail.
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RIP to the three young children who lost their lives and to the three adult men as well. I can't imagine being those children's mother. To lose all your children on a single day...ineffable.

I hope that in some way she will be able to overcome this tragedy intact. I know I wouldn't.

verysad
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Re: We caught the plane crash on our webcam
more photos & YOUR footage in the news report... [link to news.ninemsn.com.au]

Last Edited by HELL! on 11/24/2011 07:15 PM
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Re: We caught the plane crash on our webcam
looks like a first order explosion. The impact must have been violent enough to produce an aerosol cloud of fuel that ignited from the primary explosion.

Jet fuel will do this.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1152779


The momentum coming to a sudden stop produces a lot of heat from compression. But not the spark kind of heat, rather a general heat that aids in vaporizing the fuel rapidly. Plus the air drag behind the plane churns the vapor quickly as it hits the hillside.
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12/09/2011 11:27 AM
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Re: We caught the plane crash on our webcam
I just read a RSOE bulletin that said this crash is suspected to be tower error, as if they were told to fly too low. The pilot was very experienced, and there is a chunk missing from the tower-pilot communications in the log from that night with regard to that plane. It is thought that the tower possibly erred in not telling them to fly at the proper altitude and caused the accident, then withheld the data to cover it up!

I am still trying to find the bulletin as I hit the "delete" button too quickly on my e-mail, then could not find it. I get so many of them.
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12/09/2011 11:28 AM
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bump
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Re: We caught the plane crash on our webcam
It looks like it just suddenly dropped from the sky.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 4781813


Didn't drop, just hit top of mountain.
 Quoting: Desert Fox


Yeah it was too low probably the autopilot was engaged and the altitude was not correctly set and boom smashed in the hill





GLP