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Borat Sagdiyev User ID: 1538349 United States 11/23/2011 11:01 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | . Quoting: Borat Sagdiyev Controlled flight into terrain -- and FULL of gas, too (empty aircraft don't go ka-boom, only crunch). He was in level flight, not in a descent for landing. No GPWS on board and hit a hilltop. . Above was my conclusion as well, except the plane does not have to be full of fuel to go boom. . Not FULL per se, but not empty. When an aircraft crashes when it's run out of gas, the only "good" thing is that there's little (if any) fireball. This plane, however, made quite the fireball. _ Last Edited by Borat Sagdiyev on 11/23/2011 11:02 PM |
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Desert Fox User ID: 1243200 United States 11/23/2011 11:02 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | . Quoting: Borat Sagdiyev Controlled flight into terrain -- and FULL of gas, too (empty aircraft don't go ka-boom, only crunch). He was in level flight, not in a descent for landing. No GPWS on board and hit a hilltop. . Above was my conclusion as well, except the plane does not have to be full of fuel to go boom. . Not FULL per se, but not empty. When an aircraft crashes when it's run out of gas, the only "good" thing is that there's little (if any) fireball. This plane, however, made quite the fireball. _ :TOMABANEFOX: It's more humane this way ya know, or burn on totem pole. Choice is yours. |
AnonyMzHoney User ID: 2795031 Canada 11/23/2011 11:03 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | now that would bring tons of attention to glp but also the eyes of those who are not pleased with people like us Where did this take place? "Some people wait for 2012, to watch the earth shift, but in New Mexico they out there building earthships. We got the language wrong, I got a new twist. The lifting of the veil; thats the true apocolypse." |
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suvalley User ID: 5847805 United States 11/23/2011 11:12 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | The FAA and the NTSB could both use this video. It looked like what they call "controlled flight into terrain" from a distance. The pilot was IFR, no question, since it was dark. Having flown in the desert in the dark in a small plane (C180) I can tell you that it's very disorienting from above. (I was helping navigate, not the actual pilot) |
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CalmB4TheSadness User ID: 5904233 Mexico 11/23/2011 11:16 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | RIP those that lost their lives, and on the eve of thanksgiving...tragic. The explosion did look weird though,was the plane hit? I notice just before the explosion the lights went out of the plane...a directed EMP pulse tack form a ufo or ground based weapon could have caused that? (thank goodness for FAA crash investigators who can do a far better job than me and my speculations). The plane does not crash directly into the mountain head on, as the lights went out, and then the ball of light, followed by the aircraft on the ground in a fireball, lower than the original position when the lights went out. Perhaps the aircraft was veering left hence the lack of lights but weird, regardless. Awaiting to hear the official version, I am sorry for their loved ones who were waiting for them. |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 1152779 United States 11/23/2011 11:33 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | RIP those that lost their lives, and on the eve of thanksgiving...tragic. Quoting: CalmB4TheSadness 5904233 The explosion did look weird though,was the plane hit? I notice just before the explosion the lights went out of the plane...a directed EMP pulse tack form a ufo or ground based weapon could have caused that? (thank goodness for FAA crash investigators who can do a far better job than me and my speculations). The plane does not crash directly into the mountain head on, as the lights went out, and then the ball of light, followed by the aircraft on the ground in a fireball, lower than the original position when the lights went out. Perhaps the aircraft was veering left hence the lack of lights but weird, regardless. Awaiting to hear the official version, I am sorry for their loved ones who were waiting for them. Official version will be a coverup. |
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marstrax (OP) User ID: 1522071 United States 11/24/2011 12:03 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | [link to kpho.images.worldnow.com] decent photo of the mountain side and fire irc undernet #political |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 944501 Australia 11/24/2011 12:35 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Deepest condolences to family and friends of those affected. The pilot was flying IFR, (instrument flying rules)night flying, that mountain/terrain has most probably got an NDB (Navigational Direction Beacon) on it. These beacons allow a pilot to track on its radio signal which gives directional (left/right) information but NOT altitude. Unfortunately the pilot must have not have had sufficient height to clear the terain, for whatever reason and there can be a multitude of them. Machines (altimeters)do/can develop faults! That is why there are specialist investigative organizations who can search for the causes of these unfortunate incidents. To the person who called the pilot an idiot, you need a bloody good foot up your arse, for that totally missinformed, insensitive and innapropriate comment. Hope youve got the balls to apolagise right here and now for that. Otherwise Ill make the call...you are a PIG. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 1325985 United States 11/24/2011 12:37 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Deepest condolences to family and friends of those affected. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 944501 The pilot was flying IFR, (instrument flying rules)night flying, that mountain/terrain has most probably got an NDB (Navigational Direction Beacon) on it. These beacons allow a pilot to track on its radio signal which gives directional (left/right) information but NOT altitude. Unfortunately the pilot must have not have had sufficient height to clear the terain, for whatever reason and there can be a multitude of them. Machines (altimeters)do/can develop faults! That is why there are specialist investigative organizations who can search for the causes of these unfortunate incidents. To the person who called the pilot an idiot, you need a bloody good foot up your arse, for that totally missinformed, insensitive and innapropriate comment. Hope youve got the balls to apolagise right here and now for that. Otherwise Ill make the call...you are a PIG. yeah that is pretty sad. they probably had turkey in the refreg ready for cooking tommorow. family holiday ruined |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 5906267 United States 11/24/2011 12:45 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | A very strange, very sad crash in a mountain range with a rich history of strange events. Locals will know what I'm talking about. Freaky shit happens around the Superstitions, and it's not just because of all the tweakers in Apache Junction. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1295002 Whats wrong with tweakers? |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 944501 Australia 11/24/2011 01:11 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | We dont do Thanksgiving, that's a uniquely American celebration, I think. To be honest with you I dont actually even know what it represents, sorry I dont mean to be dissrespectful, I am meerly ignorant of the information. Perhaps someone might like to offer the information. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 5874389 United States 11/24/2011 02:07 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | We dont do Thanksgiving, that's a uniquely American celebration, I think. To be honest with you I dont actually even know what it represents, sorry I dont mean to be dissrespectful, I am meerly ignorant of the information. Perhaps someone might like to offer the information. The point isn't the Turkey in the fridge, or why it's a Turkey... Thanksgiving is second to Christmas (X-Mas, for those opposed to reference of Christ) as a family gathering holiday. It's a really bad time to lose family members to a violent accident... |
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