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Real father of Jesus was a Roman soldier Pantera not God

 
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Ancient writings give a completely different account of the birth of Jesus. These writings say that Mary was either seduced or raped, but that this was covered up. Some accounts even say that the real father of Jesus was a Roman soldier variously identified as Pantera, Pandera or Panthera.
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ancient Roman philosopher Celsus that Jesus's real father was a Roman soldier named Pantera.[3] Tiberius Pantera could have been serving in the region at the time of Jesus's conception.

[link to en.wikipedia.org]
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i have sympathy with God.lol.
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i have sympathy with God.lol.
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Are you your own God then? lol
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Nah,

it was a VIRGIN BIRTH, the only one ever in recorded history.

And it can happen, did you know, for example, that on the 11th of September 2001, three buildings fell into their own footprint at freefall acceleration ... two because commercial airlines hit them at their upper floors, one because nothing hit it.

Seriously, miracles happen.

:)
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He's not the messiah. He's just a very naughty boy.
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He was like any other human being.If he was so powerful why he was not able to save his own life.
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He was like any other human being.If he was so powerful why he was not able to save his own life.
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Because his sacrifice was to pave the way to heaven. He was kind of like the Pied piper leading the children.
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Nah,

it was a VIRGIN BIRTH, the only one ever in recorded history.

And it can happen, did you know, for example, that on the 11th of September 2001, three buildings fell into their own footprint at freefall acceleration ... two because commercial airlines hit them at their upper floors, one because nothing hit it.

Seriously, miracles happen.

:)
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NOT THE ONLY ONE. STUDY BETTER. BUT THE ONE TO BE COUNTED.

U know nthng, so better to crawl back to your cave.
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i have sympathy with God.lol.
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You BETTER hope God has some sympathy for YOU.

I have my doubts.
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He was like any other human being.If he was so powerful why he was not able to save his own life.
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Christ always had the ability to avoid death.

It was His choice to die for our salvation.

There is no entity more powerful than God the Father, God the Son (Jesus Christ), and God the Holy Spirit.
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The story is a myth about consciousness. Arguing about whether he had a Roman soldier as father is ridiculous in light of that.
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Thread: JESUS had a HUMAN FATHER....PANTERA
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He was like any other human being.If he was so powerful why he was not able to save his own life.
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Christ always had the ability to avoid death.

It was His choice to die for our salvation.

There is no entity more powerful than God the Father, God the Son (Jesus Christ), and God the Holy Spirit.
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All religious tard says same BS.All made up stories to show there prophet was superior.Even Pedophile one.
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What is funny to me is our ancestors were debating this guy and who he was back than we are doing the same thing now! Creepy huh? Got computers but we are still going hey Jesus was just this blah blah blah but...we cannot stop talking about him. Even if we do think he is just a man or the sun or an alien or whatever. Far into the future we openly colonize another planet and what are people talking about? Do you think Jesus will come here and try to save us?

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ancient Roman philosopher Celsus that Jesus's real father was a Roman soldier named Pantera.[3] Tiberius Pantera could have been serving in the region at the time of Jesus's conception.

[link to en.wikipedia.org]
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IF THAT LIE WAS TRUE THEN WHY THEN DID GOD PROPHESY JESUS' BIRTH 3000 YEARS BEFORE HE WAS BORN THEN?
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JESUS IS THE SON OF GOD
FROM EVERLASTING


3000 YEARS BEFORE JESUS BIRTH



<< Isaiah 9 >>
King James Version
1Nevertheless the dimness shall not be such as was in her vexation, when at the first he lightly afflicted the land of Zebulun and the land of Naphtali, and afterward did more grievously afflict her by the way of the sea, beyond Jordan, in Galilee of the nations.

2The people that walked in darkness have seen a great light: they that dwell in the land of the shadow of death, upon them hath the light shined.

3Thou hast multiplied the nation, and not increased the joy: they joy before thee according to the joy in harvest, and as men rejoice when they divide the spoil.

4For thou hast broken the yoke of his burden, and the staff of his shoulder, the rod of his oppressor, as in the day of Midian.

5For every battle of the warrior is with confused noise, and garments rolled in blood; but this shall be with burning and fuel of fire.

6For unto us a child is born, unto us a son is given: and the government shall be upon his shoulder: and his name shall be called Wonderful, Counseller, The mighty God, The everlasting Father, The Prince of Peace.

7Of the increase of his government and peace there shall be no end, upon the throne of David, and upon his kingdom, to order it, and to establish it with judgment and with justice from henceforth even for ever. The zeal of the LORD of hosts will perform this.

8The Lord sent a word into Jacob, and it hath lighted upon Israel.

9And all the people shall know, even Ephraim and the inhabitant of Samaria, that say in the pride and stoutness of heart,

10The bricks are fallen down, but we will build with hewn stones: the sycomores are cut down, but we will change them into cedars.

11Therefore the LORD shall set up the adversaries of Rezin against him, and join his enemies together;

12The Syrians before, and the Philistines behind; and they shall devour Israel with open mouth. For all this his anger is not turned away, but his hand is stretched out still.

13For the people turneth not unto him that smiteth them, neither do they seek the LORD of hosts.

14Therefore the LORD will cut off from Israel head and tail, branch and rush, in one day.

15The ancient and honourable, he is the head; and the prophet that teacheth lies, he is the tail.

16For the leaders of this people cause them to err; and they that are led of them are destroyed.

17Therefore the Lord shall have no joy in their young men, neither shall have mercy on their fatherless and widows: for every one is an hypocrite and an evildoer, and every mouth speaketh folly. For all this his anger is not turned away, but his hand is stretched out still.

18For wickedness burneth as the fire: it shall devour the briers and thorns, and shall kindle in the thickets of the forest, and they shall mount up like the lifting up of smoke.

19Through the wrath of the LORD of hosts is the land darkened, and the people shall be as the fuel of the fire: no man shall spare his brother.

20And he shall snatch on the right hand, and be hungry; and he shall eat on the left hand, and they shall not be satisfied: they shall eat every man the flesh of his own arm:

21Manasseh, Ephraim; and Ephraim, Manasseh: and they together shall be against Judah. For all this his anger is not turned away, but his hand is stretched out still.

<< Isaiah 9 >>
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Nah,

it was a VIRGIN BIRTH, the only one ever in recorded history.

And it can happen, did you know, for example, that on the 11th of September 2001, three buildings fell into their own footprint at freefall acceleration ... two because commercial airlines hit them at their upper floors, one because nothing hit it.

Seriously, miracles happen.

:)
 Quoting: Free Planet 5353202


Don't you know that Moses was a virgin birth?

no, they are NOT recorded.
We get the powers over us that we've earned collectively. Humanity, as a whole, is self-interested, shallow, ignorant, violent and immoral; small wonder, therefore, that our leaders (secret or otherwise) reflect that. You want better leaders, become better people.

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He was like any other human being.If he was so powerful why he was not able to save his own life.
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Christ always had the ability to avoid death.

It was His choice to die for our salvation.

There is no entity more powerful than God the Father, God the Son (Jesus Christ), and God the Holy Spirit.
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so which of your three gods is the most powerful?
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3000 YEARS BEFORE CHRIST WAS BORN


Therefore the Lord himself shall give you a sign; Behold, a virgin shall conceive, and bear a son, and shall call his name Immanuel.
[link to kingjbible.com]


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"Know and understand this: From the issuing of the decree to restore and rebuild Jerusalem until the Anointed One, the ruler, comes, there will be seven 'sevens,' and sixty-two 'sevens.' It will be rebuilt with streets and a trench, but in times of trouble.



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"In the time of those kings, the God of heaven will set up a kingdom that will never be destroyed, nor will it be left to another people. It will crush all those kingdoms and bring them to an end, but it will itself endure forever.



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In love a throne will be established; in faithfulness a man will sit on it--one from the house of David--one who in judging seeks justice and speeds the cause of righteousness.


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I will place on his shoulder the key to the house of David; what he opens no one can shut, and what he shuts no one can open.

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The Spirit of the LORD will rest on him--the Spirit of wisdom and of understanding, the Spirit of counsel and of power, the Spirit of knowledge and of the fear of the LORD--





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A shoot will come up from the stump of Jesse; from his roots a Branch will bear fruit.



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For unto us a child is born, unto us a son is given: and the government shall be upon his shoulder: and his name shall be called Wonderful, Counseller, The mighty God, The everlasting Father, The Prince of Peace.


Matthew 1:23 "The virgin will be with child and will give birth to a son, and they will call him Immanuel"--which means, "God with us.


"Matthew 28:18 Then Jesus came to them and said, "All authority in heaven and on earth has been given to me.


Luke 2:11 Today in the town of David a Savior has been born to you; he is Christ the Lord.


John 3:16 "For God so loved the world that he gave his one and only Son, that whoever believes in him shall not perish but have eternal life.
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He was like any other human being.If he was so powerful why he was not able to save his own life.
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Christ always had the ability to avoid death.

It was His choice to die for our salvation.

There is no entity more powerful than God the Father, God the Son (Jesus Christ), and God the Holy Spirit.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 919411


No, his aim was to abolish the BLODD SACRIFICE, the killing of innocent animals. And how have you christians (or the RCC) perverted his message? You kill animals by the millions every day yet claim to be his follwers.
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Nah,

it was a VIRGIN BIRTH, the only one ever in recorded history.

And it can happen, did you know, for example, that on the 11th of September 2001, three buildings fell into their own footprint at freefall acceleration ... two because commercial airlines hit them at their upper floors, one because nothing hit it.

Seriously, miracles happen.

:)
 Quoting: Free Planet 5353202


Your sarcasm is refreshing. About the "virgin birth." It's a down right lie.

“Some said, Mary conceived by the Holy Spirit, they are in error.” Gospel of Phillip

In Isaiah 7:14 we read, “Behold, a virgin shall be with child, and bring forth a son, and they shall call his name Emmanuel.” In Hebrew it reads, “Hinneh ha-almah harah ve-yeldeth ben ve-karath shem-o Immanuel.” In Hebrew the word almah simply means ‘young woman’ NOT virgin. The proper term for virgin is bethulah. “As early as the second century B.C.,” says the distinguished Hebrew scholar and critic, Salomon Reinach, “the jewish people perceived the error and pointed it out to the Greeks; but the Church knowingly persisted in the false reading, and for over fifteen centuries has clung to her error.” (Orpheus, p. 197.) Then, when St. Jerome translated the Hebrew Bible into Latin, known as the Vulgate version which includes the N.T. where the same passage appears again in Matthew 1:23, he intentionally “clung to the error” even though Jerome knew full well that it was an error and false. Hebrew scholars were outraged!! So insistent was the criticism, that Jerome was driven to write a book on the subject, in which he makes a very notable confession of the inherent incredibility of the Holy Ghost paternity-story. He wrote, “For who at that time would have believed the Virgin’s word that she had conceived of the Holy Ghost, and that the angel Gabriel had come and announced the purpose of God? And would not all have given their opinion against her as an adulteress, like Susanna? For at the present day, now that the whole world has embraced the faith, the jewish people argue, that when Isaiah says, ‘Behold, a virgin shall conceive and bear a son,’ the Hebrew word denotes a young woman, not a virgin, that is to say, the word is ALMAH not BETHULAH’!! (Jerome, the Perpetual Virginity of Blessed Mary, N&PNF, vi, 336.) And to this very day this blatant, deliberate LIE continues to be taught to unsuspecting sincere people.
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i have sympathy with God.lol.
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You BETTER hope God has some sympathy for YOU.

I have my doubts.
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I (God) have sympathy for him, even if you don't.
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Ancient writings give a completely different account of the birth of Jesus. These writings say that Mary was either seduced or raped, but that this was covered up. Some accounts even say that the real father of Jesus was a Roman soldier variously identified as Pantera, Pandera or Panthera.
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How do they know it wasn't one of the other Thundercats?
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what will haPPEN WHEN GOD SHAKES ALL THINGS?

What will you believe then?

GOD IS THE AUTHOR AND SOURCE OF
TRUTH!

AND SO REALITY

BUT WHERE WILL YOU BE
WHEN ALL THINGS ARE SHAKEN BY GOD AND ONLY THAT WHICH IS OF HIM REMIANS?

WHAT WILL YOU BELIEVE THEN?

YOU WILL BELIEVE THE LIE.

JESUS CHRIST IS THE WAY AND THE LIFE AND THE TRUTH
JESUS CHRIST IS THE SON OF GOD
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Ancient writings give a completely different account of the birth of Jesus. These writings say that Mary was either seduced or raped, but that this was covered up. Some accounts even say that the real father of Jesus was a Roman soldier variously identified as Pantera, Pandera or Panthera.
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How do they know it wasn't one of the other Thundercats?
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Hey, I find that offensive.

chuckle
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Ancient writings give a completely different account of the birth of Jesus. These writings say that Mary was either seduced or raped, but that this was covered up. Some accounts even say that the real father of Jesus was a Roman soldier variously identified as Pantera, Pandera or Panthera.
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God works in mysterious way ...

Jesus might have needed the DNA of the Roman Soldier. Maybe. But Joseph also had great DNA so what to think.
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what will haPPEN WHEN GOD SHAKES ALL THINGS?

What will you believe then?

GOD IS THE AUTHOR AND SOURCE OF
TRUTH!

AND SO REALITY

BUT WHERE WILL YOU BE
WHEN ALL THINGS ARE SHAKEN BY GOD AND ONLY THAT WHICH IS OF HIM REMIANS?

WHAT WILL YOU BELIEVE THEN?

YOU WILL BELIEVE THE LIE.
AND PERISH WITH IT

BELIEVE IN TRUTH NOW
JESUS CHRIST IS THE WAY AND THE LIFE AND THE TRUTH
JESUS CHRIST IS THE SON OF GOD
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Ancient writings give a completely different account of the birth of Jesus. These writings say that Mary was either seduced or raped, but that this was covered up. Some accounts even say that the real father of Jesus was a Roman soldier variously identified as Pantera, Pandera or Panthera.
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if true...thats put a whole new meaning of the figure Pan that always watched over the Templar treasures...Solomon...
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