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Mrbillybadass
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Need help reguarding TSA.
I'm a college student, and I'm writing an argumentative paper of trading freedom for security. Want to take it from a principle standpoint, but from a statistical standpoint as well. What I mean by this is the negative impact TSA has had on our transportation economy. I saw stats about a year ago, and it was horrid cannot find any stats however. Could someone link me or tell me what to type in google please.
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It's not due for another week however I have to go to class now. I'll be back in about an hour and 15 minutes.
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11/28/2011 12:09 PM
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Classes got cancelled so bump
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11/28/2011 12:19 PM
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Check into cancer rates of the back scatter type x-rays used.
Researchers are not sure what the long term effects will be on unborn children or growing children. From what I read, this technology shreds a person's DNA. When cells reproduce, they are reproducing damaged DNA.

I also remember reading something about a class action law suit filed by workers who work around these scanners, and
how they are coming down with cancer.
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11/28/2011 12:26 PM
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I would suggest the following tacks:

1) They are ineffective at what they claim to do (i.e. secure our airports)
a) GAO red team reports - this is where GAO investigators try to slip in fake weapons past TSA. 50% success at times.
b) Comparison to Israeli airport security. In Israel they hire the best and brightest for airport security and sky marshal duty. Compare that to the dim bulbs you find at our checkpoints
c) Number of weapons that have slipped past security
d) The literally hundreds of TSA personnel who have been convicted of stealing, raping, and drug trafficking.

2) They are a government bureaucracy who is engaging in mission creep. It's all about their power and budget base at this point.
a) Reports of TSA running highway checkpoints
b) DHS getting their fingers in almost every industry in the form of security regulations (CSAT and Top Screen).

3) They are completely unconstitutional.
a) They have violated the 1st, 2nd, 4th, 5th, 9th, and 10th amendments to the Constitution.
b) They are domestic enemies to the Constitution and need to be defunded and disbanded.

4) The DHS budget is constructed in such a way deliberately to make defunding it very difficult
a) DHS gets it funding not from a single line item but from "taxes" on many federal agency budgets. For example, federal bureaucracy "KGB" has a small percentage of its budget going to DHS, by law.
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Try this site. Has some good numbers on passenger counts at major airports worldwide by year.

[link to www.aci.aero]
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You ought to also check to see if flights have gone down. I stopped completely since they put the scanners in Thanksgiving before last and haven't flown since.
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I recall the pilot's union filing a grievence for both health implications and rights infringement.

[link to www.nextgov.com]

That is just a quick search on google. Maybe you can contact the union and see if you can get any further information.
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11/28/2011 12:40 PM
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Thank you everyone. Although I do believe all of this I don't want to venture too far with the "conspiracy theories" my experience is if you introduce too much too fast the person immediately rejects it. Want to use this as an opportunity to educating some of the ignorant. I do plan to talk about the F.A.S.T. vehicles, and back scatter vans though.
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Forgot the health and privacy issues with the nude ray scanners.

Also DHS and TSA massaged the cost numbers when it came to compare them with private security at airports.

Is there a week that passes without some story of a citizen being violated by TSA/DHS or drug smuggling by screeners?
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I can look for them as well, but I've seen a few stories of TSA incompetence one guy had a warrant and wasn't caught for days and another with a pocket knife. If you could link me that would be great if not I'll find it myself.
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That is what they want you to think - questioning the Government is a conspiracy theory.

I've worked in government for 20 years. What has been posted here by various posters is fact.
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That is what they want you to think - questioning the Government is a conspiracy theory.

I've worked in government for 20 years. What has been posted here by various posters is fact.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 6860

Believe me I know it's fact, but if someone isn't gradually introduced to it they reject it with every inch of their being.
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That is what they want you to think - questioning the Government is a conspiracy theory.

I've worked in government for 20 years. What has been posted here by various posters is fact.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 6860

Believe me I know it's fact, but if someone isn't gradually introduced to it they reject it with every inch of their being.
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OP: Keep up the good fight.

Imagine where we would have been at today if people were as fired up in the 1980's as they are today.
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Bump just for the bump.
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Bumpety bump

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