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Abraham Lincoln wanted ALL Blacks deported? $100 if you can debunk it

 
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Abraham Lincoln wanted ALL Blacks deported? $100 if you can debunk it
I will send you $100 (by paypal or personal check) if you can prove this wrong:

Abraham Lincoln 'wanted to deport slaves' to new colonies

Abraham Lincoln wanted to ship freed black slaves away from the US to British colonies in the Caribbean even in the final months of his life, it has emerged.


[link to www.telegraph.co.uk]

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That's why Liberia was founded.

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That's why Liberia was founded.

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Fact.
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Re: Abraham Lincoln wanted ALL Blacks deported? $100 if you can debunk it
not at all he was a slave fu*ker himself. he would not deport "all" of the 100%
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Yeah, it would have been a better fate for them anyway. He was forward thinking.. trying to save them from slavery. ;)
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Let me guess; he had BIPOLAR DISORDER..LOL
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i dont blame him a BIT....
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not at all he was a slave fu*ker himself. he would not deport "all" of the 100%
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:linco:
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i dont blame him a BIT....
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Yeah, it would have been a better fate for them anyway. He was forward thinking.. trying to save them from slavery. ;)
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trying to save civilization from collapse

he failed, America is finished, like any other civilization that tried multiculturalism (Rome, Greece, Persia, etc)
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That's why Liberia was founded.

[link to en.wikipedia.org]
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NO YOU DUMBFUK!
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Yeah, it would have been a better fate for them anyway. He was forward thinking.. trying to save them from slavery. ;)
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trying to save civilization from collapse

he failed, America is finished, like any other civilization that tried multiculturalism (Rome, Greece, Persia, etc)
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multiculturalism was never the issue, imperialism/ colonial rule was the true pit fall
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:linco:
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i dont blame him a BIT....
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:linco:
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i dont blame him a BIT....
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simian behavior
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Yeah, it would have been a better fate for them anyway. He was forward thinking.. trying to save them from slavery. ;)
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trying to save civilization from collapse

he failed, America is finished, like any other civilization that tried multiculturalism (Rome, Greece, Persia, etc)
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multiculturalism was never the issue, imperialism/ colonial rule was the true pit fall
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what you call colonialism, educated people call spreading civilization

here is an example of NON colonialism

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Re: Abraham Lincoln wanted ALL Blacks deported? $100 if you can debunk it
That's why Liberia was founded.

[link to en.wikipedia.org]
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NO YOU DUMBFUK!
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Great retort!

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Klanner deport yourself to the caves of europe
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Re: Abraham Lincoln wanted ALL Blacks deported? $100 if you can debunk it
I will send you $100 (by paypal or personal check) if you can prove this wrong:

Abraham Lincoln 'wanted to deport slaves' to new colonies

Abraham Lincoln wanted to ship freed black slaves away from the US to British colonies in the Caribbean even in the final months of his life, it has emerged.


[link to www.telegraph.co.uk]

ogrrr

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big difference between deporting which is done by coercion and encouraging colonization.
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Re: Abraham Lincoln wanted ALL Blacks deported? $100 if you can debunk it
Lincoln wanted to repatriate the slaves to Africa, but the plan never took hold because the country didn't have enough ships to transport 3+ million people in any kind of timely fashion.
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Re: Abraham Lincoln wanted ALL Blacks deported? $100 if you can debunk it
^^^^ I read this in Before the Mayflowerby Lerone Bennett, Jr.
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Re: Abraham Lincoln wanted ALL Blacks deported? $100 if you can debunk it
This is true. Lincoln, in an 1858 debate with Stephen Douglas said "I shall endeavor to reunite the negro with his native clime, no matter how great the expense."
He also stated that the two races could not exist together and must be seperated.
Had he lived just two more weeks, legislation would have been in place sending all negroes to the continent of Africa, with US taxpayers footing the bill for putting a modest infrastructure in place. This would have passed at the time virtually unopposed.
In addition, the emancipation proclaimation only ended slavery in the confederate states. It remained in place north of the mason-dixon line beyond the turn of the century. Most people don't even realize that slavery existed in the union, or that most slaves were brought in by muslims via the port of New York. So there you go.
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And in addition, Ulysses S. Grant was one of the north's largest slave-owners.
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Certainly the "Civil" war wasn't about freeing slaves. The subject of slavery was a wedge used to pry open the constitution to achieve a very sinister goal.

Keep in mind that there were approximately 60 thousand slaves in the united states with a total population of well over 60 million.

These 60k slaves never were "freed" in the proper sense. If "they" wanted them free they would have recognized their full and equal rights as living men and women at the end of the war by enforcing one of two basic options;
1) Declare and demand acceptance and naturalization of these free and equal people,into the American state/nation of their choice.
2) For those who do not wish to naturalize into a union state, facilitate relocation to either the nation of their heritage or any another accepting country



But no,
Instead of anything resembling such actual "freeing" of any people, they forced the creation of
option 3)
Option 3 was amending (reconstructing) the Constitution in a way that created an entirely new type of citizen, a federal citizen, called a "U.S. Citizen" subject to and protected by Federal rule. These newly created citizens do not have any recognized unalienable rights but only the privileges and limitations of a civil citizenship "in" their new "country". That "country" which is not a country at all, is the federal government of the United States(Corp).

In other words, the slaves weren't freed so much as they were placed under the wing of a government.

This reconstruction conveniently lead to- among other things- unquestionable taxation, encroachment of federal powers into every states and the eventual destruction of a sound monetary system in every state/nation under a system of perpetual debt.

Since 1868 most all people born in any union state have maintained the same status of federal subject status that was at on time in history reserved only for those 60 thousand slaves.
Since this takeover, TPTB still condition everyone to believe how wonderfully "free" we are (always adding, of course,"compared to the rest of the world!.. If you don't like it, move to [insert terrible place here]!")

So today we celebrate freedom on July 4th every year even as our energy is literally stolen and controlled through inflation and taxation, control of all movement and association by uniformed thugs and ultimately threatened with loss of all energy/assets and containment in a cage if you do not render unto Caesar every April 15th.

It was and continues to be the most critical victory for all New World Order types who relish the consolidation and centralization of wealth and power.
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the emancipation proclaimation only ended slavery in the confederate states. It remained in place north of the mason-dixon line beyond the turn of the century.
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Were there a lot of slaves held in the North after the Civil War? Curious, would like to read more about this.
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It is true that Lincoln felt that Blacks deserved the best chance for a full and happy prosperous life and he recognized that in many ways the United States was not the place for that to happen.

It was for this reason that as early as the 1840s Lincoln supported the efforts of Henry Clay and the American Colonization Society (ACS) to provide free passage for Blacks who wished to be repatriated to free Black colonies in Africa in the nation of Sierra Leone and, later, the free state of Liberia.

At the time of Lincoln's speech in 1865, ACS had been relocating African Americans who were former slaves to Western Africa for 45 years, since 1820.

[link to en.wikipedia.org]

[link to en.wikipedia.org]

In his second term as president, on April 11, 1865, a mere THREE DAYS before his assassination on Good Friday, April 14, 1865, Lincoln gave a speech supporting suffrage for blacks.

It was Lincoln's last public address.

This last speech given by Lincoln tackled the complex topic of reconstruction, especially as it related to the state of Louisiana.

In this speech, for the first time in a public setting, Lincoln expressed his support for black suffrage (the right to vote).

Here is an excerpt with a link to the whole speech:

Washington, D.C.

April 11, 1865

"Some twelve thousand voters in the heretofore slave-state of Louisiana have sworn allegiance to the Union, assumed to be the rightful political power of the State, held elections, organized a State government, adopted a free-state constitution, giving the benefit of public schools equally to black and white, and empowering the Legislature to confer the elective franchise upon the colored man. Their Legislature has already voted to ratify the constitutional amendment recently passed by Congress, abolishing slavery throughout the nation."

Lincoln then specified that he was in favor of accepting the new government of the state of Louisiana whose constitution was now in alignment with the nation's constitution and Lincoln's desire to enfranchise (give the right to vote to) Blacks.

His [Lincoln's] statement [supporting the right of Blacks to vote] incensed John Wilkes Booth, a member of the audience, who vowed, "That is the last speech he will make." A white supremacist and Confederate activist, Booth made good on his threat three days later.

[link to showcase.netins.net]

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That's why Liberia was founded.

[link to en.wikipedia.org]
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NO YOU DUMBFUK!
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Great retort!

1rof1
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Klanner deport yourself to the caves of europe
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If you climb a jungle tree in deepest darkest Africa.
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It is true that Lincoln felt that Blacks deserved the best chance for a full and happy prosperous life and he recognized that in many ways the United States was not the place for that to happen.

It was for this reason that as early as the 1840s Lincoln supported the efforts of Henry Clay and the American Colonization Society (ACS) to provide free passage for Blacks who wished to be repatriated to free Black colonies in Africa in the nation of Sierra Leone and, later, the free state of Liberia.

At the time of Lincoln's speech in 1865, ACS had been relocating African Americans who were former slaves to Western Africa for 45 years, since 1920.

[link to en.wikipedia.org]

[link to en.wikipedia.org]

In his second term as president, on April 11, 1865, a mere THREE DAYS before his assassination on Good Friday, April 14, 1865, Lincoln gave a speech supporting suffrage for blacks.

It was Lincoln's last public address.

This last speech given by Lincoln tackled the complex topic of reconstruction, especially as it related to the state of Louisiana.

In this speech, for the first time in a public setting, Lincoln expressed his support for black suffrage (the right to vote).

Here is an excerpt with a link to the whole speech:

Washington, D.C.

April 11, 1865

"Some twelve thousand voters in the heretofore slave-state of Louisiana have sworn allegiance to the Union, assumed to be the rightful political power of the State, held elections, organized a State government, adopted a free-state constitution, giving the benefit of public schools equally to black and white, and empowering the Legislature to confer the elective franchise upon the colored man. Their Legislature has already voted to ratify the constitutional amendment recently passed by Congress, abolishing slavery throughout the nation."

Lincoln then specified that he was in favor of accepting the new government of the state of Louisiana whose constitution was now in alignment with the nation's constitution and Lincoln's desire to enfranchise (give the right to vote to) Blacks.

His [Lincoln's] statement [supporting the right of Blacks to vote] incensed John Wilkes Booth, a member of the audience, who vowed, "That is the last speech he will make." A white supremacist and Confederate activist, Booth made good on his threat three days later.

[link to showcase.netins.net]
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As I said, history has been re-written.
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Re: Abraham Lincoln wanted ALL Blacks deported? $100 if you can debunk it
Yeah, it would have been a better fate for them anyway. He was forward thinking.. trying to save them from slavery. ;)
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trying to save civilization from collapse

he failed, America is finished, like any other civilization that tried multiculturalism (Rome, Greece, Persia, etc)
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multiculturalism has and never will be an issue, the issue is FEAR... it is through fear that man has a lack of understanding and consideration for others. people are so afraid to accept change, diversity, equality, etc. because they don't know what will happen next.

it is fact that whites feared what they didn't understand and that is why they enslaved blacks. blacks have actually always been a head in some type of way in certain aspects, last i checked the greatest European philosophers study in Africa.

if anyone still doesnt believe, last i check if blacks were so inferior why is the washington memorial an egyptian structure, or the dollar bill has a pyramid on it?

even better why was jesus christ not born to a german, a scott or any other european?

but blacks are inferior... funny -__-

P.S. if america is failing because of multiculturalism explain why a majority of chart topping music is written by men and women of color and i don't mean just black people.
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Re: Abraham Lincoln wanted ALL Blacks deported? $100 if you can debunk it
Yeah, it would have been a better fate for them anyway. He was forward thinking.. trying to save them from slavery. ;)
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it is fact that whites feared what they didn't understand


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Maybe we do understand, and just don't want any part of it.
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